Beat Tilke at his own game

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 15 Dec 2013, 01:56

wmetcalf68 wrote:My first try at making a track:
The Finland GP:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6140523

That's actually a good attempt. I had the problem once of not being patient and not curving the lines more to make a track more realistic, as there are a few very sharp corners, but other than that the track looks awesome! Build it now!

Now for some more randomness:

Oranjestad, Aruba
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6157891

Jacarepagua, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6157905

Portrero de los Funes, Argentina
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6157909

Dunsfold Airfield, Surrey, Great Britain (aka Top Gear Test Track)
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6157923

Willow Springs Raceway
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6157928

The "I don't know, I looked up 'Ascari' and found a seemingly dead and useless racetrack in the weeds, so I decided to make a new one using some existing pavement!" Track
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6157931

The "I guess I'll look up 'Nuvolari' and came upon Rome's historical area, where that street track in GT5 was" Track
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6157936

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 15 Dec 2013, 05:09

that rome circuit looks great!
also for that 'pegua track to work, the eastern part of the circuit pictured would have to still exist. unfortunately, that satellite shot is outdated by a few years, and what currently sits there now is the Olympic Venue for 2016.

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 15 Dec 2013, 13:21

nome66 wrote:that rome circuit looks great!
also for that 'pegua track to work, the eastern part of the circuit pictured would have to still exist. unfortunately, that satellite shot is outdated by a few years, and what currently sits there now is the Olympic Venue for 2016.

I just had to do a redesign when the shot was a few years outdated anyway. I was bored, especially when you look at my descriptions of the last two, just looking up names of Italian legends. Oh, anyone who knows of the circuit I found after looking up Ascari, I'd like to know some mire about it, if any can be found. Thank you.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 15 Dec 2013, 16:26

just adding helpful criticism

watka · Post by **watka** » 16 Dec 2013, 18:23

go_Rubens wrote:
nome66 wrote:that rome circuit looks great!
also for that 'pegua track to work, the eastern part of the circuit pictured would have to still exist. unfortunately, that satellite shot is outdated by a few years, and what currently sits there now is the Olympic Venue for 2016.

I just had to do a redesign when the shot was a few years outdated anyway. I was bored, especially when you look at my descriptions of the last two, just looking up names of Italian legends. Oh, anyone who knows of the circuit I found after looking up Ascari, I'd like to know some mire about it, if any can be found. Thank you.

Found it: http://theracingline.net/racingcircuits ... a2003.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61lrqSWJWSk

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 16 Dec 2013, 21:08

watka wrote:
go_Rubens wrote:
nome66 wrote:that rome circuit looks great!
also for that 'pegua track to work, the eastern part of the circuit pictured would have to still exist. unfortunately, that satellite shot is outdated by a few years, and what currently sits there now is the Olympic Venue for 2016.

I just had to do a redesign when the shot was a few years outdated anyway. I was bored, especially when you look at my descriptions of the last two, just looking up names of Italian legends. Oh, anyone who knows of the circuit I found after looking up Ascari, I'd like to know some mire about it, if any can be found. Thank you.

Found it: http://theracingline.net/racingcircuits ... a2003.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61lrqSWJWSk

Thanks man! Some more info I may store into my brain.

Rocks with Salt · Post by **Rocks with Salt** » 19 Dec 2013, 17:34

Whenever I get bored at my job and don't have any customers to take care of, I doodle in my notepad. Recently, I've been drawing racetracks for some reason. The more "intricate" the detail, the more time I had to waste. The blue is the runoff area.

Top left: My attempt at a "fast" circuit with flowing corners. And an arena section. Looking back, I imagine the Turn 10-11-12 complex would be a real pain for passing. And it looks like I put the grandstands on top of the garages. Can that actually happen?

Top right: First track I drew. I literally drew the front straight, closed my eyes, and tried to draw a track. I opened my eyes, looked at it, threw it away and started over. No logic went into this one; it was just "well what if I put a hairpin here and followed it up with a chicane! Ooh I'm playing with fire here!" Once again, the third sector looks pretty poor, what with those never-ending curves and all. I was at least hoping the first sector would be nice and fast. I'm not sure it would end up like that, though.

Bottom left: This one started with just the Indianapolis corner onto the front straight and the chicane before it. This is what I imagine Road Atlanta would look like if it were squished to look like a microscope. Actually, I like how this turned out. I think the esses before the hairpin are cool, and I like the Indy turn followed by a long straightaway and then another tight hairpin. With this one, however, I forgot to make room for the garages again. Oops.

Bottom right: My most recent one. The only thing I had in mind was that the first two and the last two corners would be chicanes so that drivers could pull straight into the pits. A fun little gimmick. Also my goal was to draw a track that didn't have fast sweeping turns and would require more downforce. A good go-karting track. Something Tilke might draw. I ended up drawing Catalunya with a tumor. I don't even.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 19 Dec 2013, 18:24

top right reminds me of imola, and bottom left is just a copy of texas, really

but these would defenitely be good tracks.

wmetcalf68 · Post by **wmetcalf68** » 23 Dec 2013, 22:38

I just made a track in Dublin, Ireland. I think it actually turned out pretty good!
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6162653

watka · Post by **watka** » 23 Dec 2013, 23:58

Nice enough location and layout, good work!

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 24 Dec 2013, 02:00

Circuit Water
Water Superspeedway
River Street Circuit
Driveway Hillclimb
Misiri Circuit

And finally, a circuit featuring the road with my favourite name in the world:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6162730

Rocks with Salt · Post by **Rocks with Salt** » 24 Dec 2013, 04:01

Another day, another track:

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 24 Dec 2013, 04:35

I like that circuit that you've posted there Rocks With Salt. It has a nice variety of corners and looks decent for racing.

wmetcalf68 wrote:I just made a track in Dublin, Ireland. I think it actually turned out pretty good!
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6162653

Nice circuit there. It has the normal features of a street track with a little extra added to it. Good work.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 30 Dec 2013, 05:22

Another pointless Monaco edit:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com?r=6166484

watka · Post by **watka** » 30 Dec 2013, 12:25

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:Another pointless Monaco edit:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com?r=6166484

Not entirely pointless in my opinion, you've created another overtaking spot at the end of the Boulevard des Moulins.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 30 Dec 2013, 13:29

watka wrote:
UgncreativeUsergname wrote:Another pointless Monaco edit:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com?r=6166484

Not entirely pointless in my opinion, you've created another overtaking spot at the end of the Boulevard des Moulins.

I think the straight at the Boulevard de Moulins is a bit short, but moving the harbour chicane backwards improves an overtaking spot after the exit of the tunnel. Also the left hander where Rascasse was should be spectacular. But why did you narrow the first part of the swimming pool chicane? This fast chicane is one of my favourite parts of the circuit and I see no need for another slow chicane.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 30 Dec 2013, 17:15

pi314159 wrote:But why did you narrow the first part of the swimming pool chicane? This fast chicane is one of my favourite parts of the circuit and I see no need for another slow chicane.

I didn't mean to edit it, I tried to follow the original track since the normal road didn't look quite right and failed horribly. Pretend it's the normal chicane.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 31 Dec 2013, 22:04

A place
Some trees
More trees
A different place
Somewhere
Sebastian Vettel
Romain Grosjean
Nico Hülkenberg
Valtteri Bottas

Rocks with Salt · Post by **Rocks with Salt** » 01 Jan 2014, 16:49

Me again! I've been working more hours since I'm on winter break for another two weeks, which gives me more time to goof off and draw more tracks!

First one: completely forgettable. I didn't even bother drawing the inner runoff areas for this one.

The second one, however... I love it. This is by far my favorite so far. Obviously I took Interlagos as inspiration, but I started using the two long straights a la Korea and went from there. I also like it because, although there is no way I can draw it, there are elevation changes! Hence the lack of runoff areas around the track; armco barriers as far as the eye can see! Choosing the clockwise configuration, the circuit noticeably descends into what I call "The Pit" from from the first hairpin, which I liken to Ramsey Hairpin on the Isle of Man TT circuit, only descending instead of ascending. It is called The Pit because behind the armco barriers are steep embankments several meters high where the outer portions of the circuit sit. This allows the fans in the grandstands to see almost the entire track before them, especially those in the start/finish stands! Anyway, rounding Delaware corner the descent into The Pit continues until we reach The Boot complex, which is the lowest point on the circuit. The track then begins to noticeably gain elevation as drivers go through the left-right-right complex before reaching the Spoon curve onto the longest straightaway. The Spoon curve is just below the front straightaway in terms of elevation, and drivers must get this corner right or else they'll lose massively on the long, rev-limiting straight. From there, drivers round the A1 and A2 corners (There's more runoff area than what I originally drew, trust me) onto the second straightaway before braking into the right-left complex and finally accelerating through the sweeping right-hander onto the start/finish straight, which is the highest point on the circuit.

I can't help but feel really proud of this one! What do you guys think?

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 01 Jan 2014, 18:49

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:Nico Hülkenberg

I was expecting that track to be as smooth as Hülk's driving.

Rocks with Salt, I suggest the second track to be built NOW, in a place that cares about motorsports

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 05 Jan 2014, 16:36

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6171479

Finnish GP just outside of Helsinki and close to former circuit at Keimola.

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 05 Jan 2014, 17:25

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 05 Jan 2014, 17:36

go_Rubens wrote:London Biggin Hill Airport
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6171545

That's very close to where I went on 2 Christian Union weekends away, less than a mile from where my parents got married, and less than 2 miles from where my grandparents have lived for most of their married life (and thus where I have visited every Christmas ever).

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 10 Jan 2014, 06:09

Oakland, California

Oakland Athletics (an MLB team) lease in their old stadium is about to come to an end; the team will move to San Jose. The old stadium will thus be demolished and replaced by a Racing Paddock and the track would be...

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6175450

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 10 Jan 2014, 23:55

Benetton wrote:Oakland, California

Oakland Athletics (an MLB team) lease in their old stadium is about to come to an end; the team will move to San Jose. The old stadium will thus be demolished and replaced by a Racing Paddock and the track would be...

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6175450

That's a good layout in a well-thoguht out area now that the stadium isn't going to be used, but I don't like Oakland for a street race due to the high crime rate in the city.

For my next (slightly bored) montage:

I looked up "Fangio," and found a decent gravel road outside Mendoza, Argentina
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6176196

Goodwood Racecourse
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6176199

Brooklands
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6176203

Woking
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6176208

I looked up "Senna," and found an island off the coast of Norway
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6176211

I look up "International Motorsports Hall of Fame," and find Talladega Superspeedway's road course needing a spice-up
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6176222

Pensacola, Florida
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6176227

Long Beach, home of the next Pacific GP
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6176232

Newark Liberty International Airport
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6176236

24 Heures du Mans (my way)
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6176189

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 12 Jan 2014, 17:40

Helsinki again (realistic)

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6177662

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 13 Jan 2014, 22:42

Benetton wrote:Helsinki again (realistic)

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6177662

I very much like that design. And it's good considering I had no good ideas for a track in Helsinki or near it unless I used the deceased Keimola Motordrome outside Vantaa.

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 28 Jan 2014, 20:24

How the A1-Ring/Red Bull Ring should've been!

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6193063

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 28 Jan 2014, 23:31

Benetton wrote:How the A1-Ring/Red Bull Ring should've been!

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6193063

That's a very nice layout there Benetton. It might not have as much flow to it, but it still has the characteristics I like to see in a race track - overtaking opportunities.

More tracks from me coming soon. Creating a completely random pack of them.

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 03 Feb 2014, 15:55

SUPER MONTAGE

Well, couldn't resist

Ocoee Whitewater Center
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6188686

Penrith Lakes/Penrith Whitewater Stadium
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6188690

This airport makes a return to my Track Montage series
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6188696

My favorite place to canoe, when there's water of course

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6188702

Another favorite canoeing spot of mine
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6188704

US National Whitewater Center
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6188706

McHenry, Maryland, hosting the Canoe Slalom World Championships this September (Hillclimb)
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6188709

Porto, Portugal
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6188715

"Frick this place"
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6188720

One of the 3 tracks I did this morning to choose for the Track Design Contest until I realized the elevation changes were quite unrealistic :lol:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6197743

Another one of the 3 tracks I did this morning for the Track Design Contest that didn't quite fit the location I was after after 20 minutes of thinking :lol:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6197743

TRUTH OR CONSEQUENCES
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6197772

I looked up "McLaren," amd found a nice piece of land somewhere in the southern US
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6197777

I looked up "Ferrari," and found an island in the Rio Uraguay, on the border of Uraguay and Argentina
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6197779

My hometown comes back in my Track Montage series
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6197815

Another place near my optimal area of living the canoeing life
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6197828

Alternative to Lime Rock Park, at one of my least favorite places to canoe
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6197833

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 05 Feb 2014, 09:00

Mexico City

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6199291

watka · Post by **watka** » 09 Feb 2014, 01:44

Benetton wrote:Mexico City

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6199291

That could be like a Montjuich Park for Mexico City!

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 13 Feb 2014, 19:17

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 13 Feb 2014, 23:41

go_Rubens wrote:
Hasselt, Belgium
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6203225

Nice that you tried my city, but the streets in the center are way too small, thats why i avoided them when i tried.

Anyway, tried my hands on a new track in Genk, which involves some nice scenery of local forests, industrial heritage sites (a coal mine) it's ridiculously long, and it features some dangerous corners where i've seen many cars end up in the woods, but it's a nice environment.
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6206469
Port of Antwerp tilkedrome, but the city itself would be happy with that location, actually.
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6206472
Herstappe: Because a city of 85 citizens is commercially very interesting for Formula 1. The thing doesn't have more roads than this, so there's not much of alternative versions possible.
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6206476

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 16 Feb 2014, 18:33

roblomas52 wrote:now for my bunch of crap..

Skopje
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com?r=6153740

Malta
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6146593

Haifa
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6149962

Steep
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6151979

Queen Elizabeth Country Park
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6151981

Ingolstadt
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6141019

Montreal nuns island
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6145821

Montreal St Helens island
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6145826

Please give feedback
Rob

I haven't done the feedback job in quite a while, so I've decided to go back to it.

Skopje is awesome. Although the curvy bits in the first kilometer I'm not too sure of. 8 out of 10.

Malta is good with complexity and would probably be fun to drive, but it seems as if there are no overtaking opportunities. 6 out of 10.

Haifa. I like the layout, but the chicanes look very dodgy though. 7 out of 10.

Steep looks like a track that came out of Gran Turismo 5's Course Maker. 5 out of 10.

I like the layout of the Park there. Just needs a little bit extra. 8 out of 10.

Ingolstadt is a fair 10 out of 10. Just an awesome street circuit layout, not to mention it has street circuit characteristics that aren't street circuit characteristics.

Love Nuns' Island there. 9.5 out of 10. I don't know, I felt that it needed maybe another good curve or 2 but it is a great layout nonetheless.

St. Helens island would not be a good replacement for Gilles Villeneuve across the St. Lawrance. 2 out of 10. Don't like the sharp turns at all.

Now time for my randomness, which includes 28 tracks. (It surprises me how many tracks I've been making lately)

Dallas, Texas
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207242

Phoenix, Arizona
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207245

New York, New York
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207247

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207250

Cleveland, Ohio
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207254

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207257

Bridgeport, Connecticut
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207260

Boston, Massachusetts
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207264

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207272

Petty Island
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207275

Houston, Texas
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207281

Sebring, Florida
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207289

Mont-Tremblant, Quebec, Canada
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207292

Canoe, British Columbia, Canada
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207325

Deep Creek, Maryland (it's a side of a mountain)
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207821

Across the cove from the track before
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207827

Make this Stefan's test track (REJECTFUL)
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207837

Akasia, South Africa
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207841

Near Campos, Spain
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207843

Nivelles-Baulers, Belgium
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207924

Aintree, Great Britain
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207935

Bremgartenwald, Switzerland
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207958

Autodromo Oscar Galvez
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207974

Somewhere between Montpelier and Waterbury, Vermont
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6208715

Walpole, New Hampshire
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6208722

Toscana
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6208731

Nurburgring
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6208750

Silverstone
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6208759

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 16 Feb 2014, 21:17

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 17 Feb 2014, 23:59

UgncreativeUsergname, some of those tracks looks better than a typical Tilke design, but others were a little meh. The ones that were neither were just bland. Although considering the locations, I understand why you made the tracks the way you did.

When I look up a place completely random to place a track (see my track called failure above), I find the place, and try my best to find a suitable area for a track near it. I guess in terms of my Failure track, I failed on that :lol:

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 18 Feb 2014, 00:05

go_Rubens wrote:UgncreativeUsergname, some of those tracks looks better than a typical Tilke design, but others were a little meh. The ones that were neither were just bland. Although considering the locations, I understand why you made the tracks the way you did.

When I look up a place completely random to place a track (see my track called failure above), I find the place, and try my best to find a suitable area for a track near it. I guess in terms of my Failure track, I failed on that

I understand it's to make a better track, and that's good; but that, to me, is cheating

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 18 Feb 2014, 19:20

Biscione: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6210695 Not sure which direction I like this better in
dr-baker: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6210693
FMecha: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6210746
mario: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6210724 Rejectful
Phoenix: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6210708
Salamander: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6210716
Shizuka: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6210751
This: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6210758

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 19 Feb 2014, 21:36