F1 Alternativ: season 1990

[pasta_maldonado]

Im afraid I no longer follow this, so Lotus is up for grabs.

[Wallio]

Im afraid I no longer follow this, so Lotus is up for grabs.

I'd be interested in Lotus, if theres not a waiting list.

[Hermann95]

Im afraid I no longer follow this, so Lotus is up for grabs.

I'd be interested in Lotus, if theres not a waiting list.

There is no waiting list! So you are in!
PS: Lotus already signed Berger for 1991!

[Hermann95]

Round 15: Suzuka

Pre Qualifying

1 Ricardo Patrese (Leyton House-Ford) 1:40.194
2 Nicola Larini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:40.270
3 Gabriele Tarquini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:40.403
4 Eric Bernard (Leyton House-Ford) 1:40.421
5 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Eurobrun-Ford) 1:41.233
6 Alan McNish (Eurobrun-Ford) 1:41.497
7 Olivier Grouillard (Osella-Ford) 1:42.128
8 Piercarlo Ghinzani (Osella-Ford) 1:42.537
9 Paolo Barilla (Coloni-Judd) 1:42.612


Qualifying

1 Jean Alesi (Meclaren-Honda) 1:37.983
2 Alain Prost (Meclaren-Honda) 1:38.001
3 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:38.130
4 Satoru Nakajima (Ferrari) 1:38.588
5 Stefano Modena (Williams-Renault) 1:38.699
6 Ayrton Senna (Benneton-Ford) 1:38.749
7 Mark Blundell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:38.890
8 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Renault) 1:38.992
9 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ford) 1:39.006
10 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Judd) 1:39.071
11 Martin Brundle (Tyrell-Renault) 1:39.077
12 Mika Häkkinen (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:39.115
13 Damon Hill (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:39.386
14 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:39.491
15 Derek Warwick (Ligier-Ford) 1:39.531
16 Eric van der Poele (Lotus-Judd) 1:39.605
17 Nigel Mansell (Brabham-Ford) 1:39.738
18 Ricardo Patrese (Leyton House-Ford) 1:40.058
19 Pierluigi Martini (Larrousse-Ford) 1:40.149
20 Nicola Larini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:40.226
21 Michele Alboreto (Minardi-Judd) 1:40.308
22 Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) 1:40.347
23 Alex Caffi (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:40.353
24 Andrea de Cesaris (Brabham-Ford) 1:40.381
25 Eric Bernard (Leyton House-Ford) 1:40.398
26 Eddie Irvine (Onyx-Ford) 1:40.497
27 Bertrand Gachot (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:40.509
28 Fabricio Giovanardi (Minardi-Judd) 1:40.594
29 Stefan Johansson (Onyx-Ford) 1:40.598
30 Gabriele Tarquini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:40.826

[Hermann95]

Round 15: Suzuka


Race
Alesi was leading into the first corner with Piquet in 2nd and Prost in 3rd. $th came senna 5th Modena and 6th a bad started Nakajima. Alesi and Piquet both pushed very hard and managed to open a gap to Prost and Senna. In lap 36 Alesi and Piquet had to lap Patrese. Piquet tried to overtake both towards the last chicane but collided with Patrese. Both had to retire. Now Alesi had a 35 second gap to Prost and Senna. A few laps later Alesi started to lap slower and in lap 45 he had to retire because of an Engine failure. If he had made the disdance he would have been the new Champion! Now Senna and Prost battled even harder but with only 3 laps to go it came to an end because Prost's engine gave up too. Both Honda engines blew up at there home race, what a shame. Senna was now leading comfortable and claimed the victory.


1 Ayrton Senna (Benneton-Ford) 1:34:00.108
2 Damon Hill (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:34:12.649
3 Mika Häkkinen (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:34:14.415
4 Pierluigi Martini (Larrousse-Ford) 1:34:15.730
5 Mark Blundell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:34:20.336
6 Eddie Irvine (Onyx-Ford) 1:34:21.027
7 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:34:35.890
8 Satoru Nakajima (Ferrari) 1:34:37.539
9 Nicola Larini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:35:07.052
10 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ford) 1:35:09.776
11 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Renault) 1:35:11.502
12 Nigel Mansell (Brabham-Ford) 1:35:16.535
13 Eric Bernard (Leyton House-Ford) 1:35:25.637
14 Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) 1:35:35.610
15 Martin Brundle (Tyrell-Renault) 1:35:37.313
16 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Judd) 1:35:38.826
17 Eric van der Poele (Lotus-Judd) 1:35:42.546
18 Andrea de Cesaris (Brabham-Ford) 1:35:48.902
19 Michele Alboreto (Minardi-Judd) -1 lap
20 Alain Prost (Meclaren-Honda) -3 lap/Engine
— Jean Alesi (Meclaren-Honda) DNF lap 45/Engine
Ricardo Patrese (Leyton House-Ford) DNF lap 36/ Collision
Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) DNF lap 36/ Collision
Derek Warwick (Ligier-Ford) DNF lap 32/Brakes
Stefano Modena (Williams-Renault) DNF lap 31/Accident
Alex Caffi (AGS-Lamborghini) DNF lap 3/ Clutch

Fastest lap: Damon Hill (Arrows-Ford)

[Hermann95]

Drivers Championship(Championship fighters with *)

1.Jean Alesi 51*(4 wins)
2. Ayrton Senna 51*(3 wins)
3. Nelson Piquet 49*
4. Thierry Boutsen 35
5. Mika Häkkinen 27
6. Alain Prost 26
7. Damon Hill 22
8. Gerhard Berger 19
9. Martin Brundle 14
10. Mark Blundell 13


Constructors Championship(Champions with*)
1. Mclaren 83*
2. Ferrari 61
3. Benneton 61
4. Arrows 50
5. Williams 47
6. Tyrell 27
7. Lotus 19
8. Larrouse 9
9. Brabham 7
10. Minardi 3
11. Ligier 3
12. Dallara 2
13. Onyx 2
14. AGS 1

Prize Money
Arrows 1m$
Benneton 0,9m$
Larrousse 0,3m$
Tyrell 0,2m$
Onyx 0,1m$


Pole Position Challange(Prost Already won!)
Alain Prost 10
Jean Alesi 3
Nelson Piquet 2


Fastest Lap Challange
Jean Alesi 3
Ayrton Senna 3
Thierry Boutsen 2
Gerhard Berger 2
Nelson Piquet 2
Alain Prost 1
Stefano Modena 1
Damon Hill 1

[pycku]

A silent race for us but double podium finish which that put Arrows in top 4. Still we are seeking our first victory, but things look good for our team. Especially when race winner Ayrton Senna will be sitting in our cockpit next year

[Hermann95]

Season final: Preview

We are very close to the end of the season. The next race at Adelaide will be the last one in 1990 and it will decide the Championship.
Let's take a quick look on the championship contenders:

Nelson Piquet
The 3 times world champion Piquet is the contender with the most experience. Although he is 2 points behind Senna and Alesi he has a very good chance to claim his 4th championship. The Ferrari is a very reliable car that has a good pace especially at twisty circuits. A handicap for him might be his teammate Nakajima. Although Nakajima would support him without any doubt it isn't quite shure if he has the pace to do so.

Ayrton Senna
Senna already won a title in 1988 and knows what he has to do but he has to big handicaps: his car and his teammate. The Benneton isn't really the best car on the grid. Even Senna, who is one of the best qualifyers in F1, wasn't able to score a single pole position this season and the engine is outdated. Only when it comes to reliability the Benneton is on top. His temmate Nannini didn't score a single point since Monaco, so he might not be a great help for him. Although he has a few handicaps when it comes to rain at Adelaide i would give my tips on Senna.

Jean Alesi
The rookie drove a unbelievable season with Mclaren. If he hadn't had his chrash at Monza and the injurie he would already be world champion. He has two big advantages over the other two contenders: His car and his teammate. The Mclaren was the fastest car during the whole season(13 out of 15 pole positions). You only have to worry about the reliability, because at Suzuka both Mclarens had an engine failure. Alesi's teammate prost will could support him very well, although it isn't shure if he will do so. If Prost will support Alesi i'm quite shure that Alesi can do it although he is very unexperienced!

[Shizuka]

Some nice points for Larrousse is always good. Hopefully we can fend off Brabham in Adelaide.

[Phoenix]

If Bernd Schneider is still up for grabs we'll sign him for the second seat for US$600.000 a year, with Roberto Moreno on the testing and third driver role for US$350.000 per year.

[Wallio]

Im afraid I no longer follow this, so Lotus is up for grabs.

I'd be interested in Lotus, if theres not a waiting list.

There is no waiting list! So you are in!
PS: Lotus already signed Berger for 1991!

Excellent. Can I offer my #2 slot to Zarnardi for 2-yrs at $550k per year?

[Shizuka]

No, he's signed at Arrows for the third driver position.

[Wallio]

No, he's signed at Arrows for the third driver position.

Damn. Is there an updated list of whose available?

[Hermann95]

No, he's signed at Arrows for the third driver position.

Damn. Is there an updated list of whose available?

i'll post one tomorrow!

[Wallio]

Danke.

[Hermann95]

Danke.

Is it possible that you are from germany?

EDIT:
Free dirvers
Andrea de Cesaris
Andrea Montermini
Bernd Schneider
Bertrand Gachot
Bruno Giacomelli
Christian Danner
Claudio Langes
David Brabham
Eric Bernard
Giani Morbidelli
Gregor Foitek
Johnny Dumfries
Jonathan Palmer
Marco Apicella
Mark Blundell
Martin Donnelly
Michele Alboreto
Nelson Piquet
Olivier Grouillard
Paolo Barilla
Piercarlo Ghinzani
Thomas Danielsson
Yannick Dalmas


Paydrivers(this driver are already asked for money, some of them are already signed!)
Aguri Suzuki 0,5m$
Alain Prost 2m$
Alesandro Zanardi 2m$
Andrea de Cesaris 1m$
Andrea Montermini 0m$
Bertrand Gachot 0m$
Christian Danner 0m$
Claudio Langes 0,5m$
David Brabham 0m$
Emmanuel Collard 0,5m$
Emmanuele Pirro 1m$
Eric van de Poele 0,5m$
Gary Brabham 1m$
Gregor Foitek 0m$
Joachim Winkelhock 1m$
Johnny Dumfries 0,5m$
Marko Apicella 0,5m$
Mauricio Gugelmin 0,5m$
Paolo Barilla 0,5m$
Phillipe Alliot 0,5m$
Pirecarlo Ghinzani 0m$

PS: Tyrell still has to decide on the testdriver!(Dumfries, Barilla, Apicella, Gugelmin; all will bring 0,5m$!)

[Wallio]

#2 Driver Mark Blundell - 2 years
Test Driver - Joachim Winkelhock 1 year


I'm American (with some German decent on my moms side admittedly, although I'm mostly Italian) the German is just a character I created to play BMW in Pi's alternative 1979 season. I'll start work on a British one for here lol.

[Peteroli34]

Tyrell will sign Gugelmin as our test driver

[Hermann95]

#2 Driver Mark Blundell - 2 years
Test Driver - Joachim Winkelhock 1 year

Winkelhock is already sign! Drivers from the paydrivers list are only available if they are on the free drivers list too!

I'm American (with some German decent on my moms side admittedly, although I'm mostly Italian) the German is just a character I created to play BMW in Pi's alternative 1979 season. I'll start work on a British one for here lol.

Very interesting!

[Wallio]

Ok David Brabham's on both lists, lets have him test for a year. Third time lucky?

[Hermann95]

Driver signing: Round 3

Nelson Piquet is still in the fight for the championship. He has a offer from Ferrari but will he accept for only the half salary?
1-70...Ferrari
71-100...retire
18 he accepts the offer. But he also statet that it will be his last contract because when it expires he will be 40 years old!

Yannik Dalamas as only this offer from Ferrari. He will accept his promotion to the second race driver.

Michele Alboreto has only a testing offer from Ferrari. He accepts and rejoin the Team he left 2 years ago.

Mark Blundell drove a very good season for Tyrell(1 win at Silverstone). He has only an offer from Lotus to partner Gerhard Berger.
1-80...Lotus
81-100...searching for other oportuninies to race
42 he signs with Lotus

David Brabham has an offer from Lotus, as test driver. He accepts.

Claudio Langes signs with Osella as test driver. He will provide 0,5m$.

Bernd Schneider drove 2 impressive races for Mclaren this year. He will accept the offer to race full time next year and partner Jean Alesi.


1991 Line up's

Ferrari
Nelson Piquet
Yannik Dalmas
Michele Alboreto

Tyrell
Nigel Mansell
Damon Hill
Mauricio Gugelmin

Williams
Thierry Boutsen
Karl Wendlinger
Allan McNish

Brabham
Riccardo Patrese
Joachim Winkelhock
Gary Brabham

Arrows
Ayrton Senna
Mika Häkkinen
Alesandro Zanardi

Lotus
Gerhard Berger
Mark Blundell
David Brabham

Osella
Oliver Grouillard
Andrea Chiesa
Claudio Langes

Leyton House
TBA
TBA
TBA

AGS
Alex Caffi
Alain Prost
Emmanuel Collard

Benneton
Stefano Modena
Allesandro Nannini
Michael Schumacher

Dallara
Erik Comas
JJ Lehto
Emmanuele Pirro

Minardi
Pierluigi Martini
Martin Brundle
TBA

Ligier
Roberto Moreno
Gabriele Tarquini
TBA

Mclaren
Jean Alesi
Bernd Schneider
TBA

Larrousse
Johnny Herbert
Stefan Johansson
Eric van de Poele

Coloni
TBA
TBA
TBA

Eurobrun
TBA
TBA
TBA

Onyx
Ivan Capelli
Derek Warwick
TBA

Jordan
Eddie Irvine
Heinz Harald Frentzen
Fabricio Giovanardi

Modena
Nicola Larini
Phillipe Alliot
Aguri Suzuki

So, this was driver signing for now. It will be closed until next season!

[Peteroli34]

What about Gugelmin? Tyrrell offered him the test driver spot

[Hermann95]

What about Gugelmin? Tyrrell offered him the test driver spot

Sorry i just forgot him! Edited the post above!

[Hermann95]

Round 16: Adelaide

Pre-Qualifying
1 Gabriele Tarquini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:18.679
2 Nicola Larini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:18.814
3 Ricardo Patrese (Leyton House-Ford) 1:18.916
4 Eric Bernard (Leyton House-Ford) 1:19.206
5 Olivier Grouillard (Osella-Ford) 1:19.595
6 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Eurobrun-Ford) 1:19.708
7 Alan McNish (Eurobrun-Ford) 1:19.731
8 Piercarlo Ghinzani (Osella-Ford) 1:19.850
9 Paolo Barilla (Coloni-Judd) 1:20.806



Qualifying
1 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:16.408
2 Alain Prost (Meclaren-Honda) 1:16.425
3 Satoru Nakajima (Ferrari) 1:16.561
4 Jean Alesi (Meclaren-Honda) 1:16.662
5 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Renault) 1:16.857
6 Mark Blundell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:16.866
7 Martin Brundle (Tyrell-Renault) 1:16.869
8 Damon Hill (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:16.969
9 Mika Häkkinen (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:16.973
10 Ayrton Senna (Benneton-Ford) 1:16.987
11 Stefano Modena (Williams-Renault) 1:17.054
12 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ford) 1:17.279
13 Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) 1:17.802
14 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Judd) 1:17.822
15 Pierluigi Martini (Larrousse-Ford) 1:17.873
16 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:18.246
17 Derek Warwick (Ligier-Ford) 1:18.358
18 Nicola Larini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:18.453
19 Nigel Mansell (Brabham-Ford) 1:18.615
20 Gabriele Tarquini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:18.635
21 Eric van der Poele (Lotus-Judd) 1:18.670
22 Ricardo Patrese (Leyton House-Ford) 1:18.792
23 Alex Caffi (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:18.920
24 Stefan Johansson (Onyx-Ford) 1:18.957
25 Eric Bernard (Leyton House-Ford) 1:19.108
26 Michele Alboreto (Minardi-Judd) 1:19.126
27 Bertrand Gachot (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:19.214
28 Eddie Irvine (Onyx-Ford) 1:19.273
29 Andrea de Cesaris (Brabham-Ford) 1:19.293
30 Fabricio Giovanardi (Minardi-Judd) 1:19.294

[Hermann95]

Round 16: Adelaide

Race

The final race of the season! At the start Piquet was leading in front of Prost and Alesi. Prost supported his teammate Alesi and made pressure on Piquet until lap 15. Than he let Alesi pass and Alesi made pressure. This caused that Piquet had to pit a bit earlier. Meanwhile Häkkinen drove a fantastic race setting one fastest lap after the other. He managed to pass all 3 during the pitstop. With the Häkkinen in first, Piquet in 2nd and Alesi in 3rd, Alesi was champion on countback. He stayed within a few seconds with Piquet in oder to be able to attak at any time. The race went on and nothing really changed at the top end of the grid. Congratulation to Jean Ales, the new world champion!

1 Mika Häkkinen (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:54:08.191
2 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:54:39.210
3 Jean Alesi (Meclaren-Honda) 1:54:44.031
4 Alain Prost (Meclaren-Honda) -1 lap
5 Satoru Nakajima (Ferrari) -1 lap
6 Ayrton Senna (Benneton-Ford) -1 lap
7 Nigel Mansell (Brabham-Ford) -1 lap
8 Michele Alboreto (Minardi-Judd) -1 lap
9 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) -2 laps
10 Gabriele Tarquini (Dallara-Lamborghini) -2 laps
11 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Renault) -2 laps
12 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Judd) -2 laps
13 Damon Hill (Footwork Arrows-Ford) -2 laps
14 Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) -2 laps
15 Stefano Modena (Williams-Renault) -2 laps
16 Stefan Johansson (Onyx-Ford) -2 laps
17 Pierluigi Martini (Larrousse-Ford) -2 laps
18 Alex Caffi (AGS-Lamborghini) -2 laps
19 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ford) -3 laps
— Derek Warwick (Ligier-Ford) DNF lap 77/engine
Eric van der Poele (Lotus-Judd) DNF lap 67/brakes
Eric Bernard (Leyton House-Ford) DNF lap 44/accident
Mark Blundell (Tyrell-Renault) DNF lap 28/engine
Ricardo Patrese (Leyton House-Ford) DNF lap 9/brakes
Nicola Larini (Dallara-Lamborghini) DNF lap 2/suspension
Martin Brundle (Tyrell-Renault) DNF lap 1/collision

Fastest lap: Mika Häkkinen(Footwork Arrows-Ford)

[Hermann95]

Drivers Championship(Championship fighters with *)

1.Jean Alesi 55(4 wins)
2. Nelson Piquet 55(3wins)
3. Ayrton Senna 52
4. Mika Häkkinen 36
5. Thierry Boutsen 35
6. Alain Prost 29
7. Damon Hill 23
8. Gerhard Berger 19
9. Martin Brundle 14
10. Saturo Nakajima 14


Constructors Championship
1. Mclaren 90
2. Ferrari 69
3. Benneton 62
4. Arrows 59
5. Williams 47
6. Tyrell 27
7. Lotus 19
8. Larrouse 9
9. Brabham 7
10. Minardi 3
11. Ligier 3
12. Dallara 2
13. Onyx 2
14. AGS 1

Prize Money
Arrows 0,9m$
Ferrari 0,8m$
Mclaren 0,7m$
Benneton 0,1m$

Pole Position Challange
Alain Prost 10
Jean Alesi 3
Nelson Piquet 3


Fastest Lap Challange
Jean Alesi 3
Ayrton Senna 3
Thierry Boutsen 2
Gerhard Berger 2
Nelson Piquet 2
Alain Prost 1
Stefano Modena 1
Damon Hill 1
Mika Häkkinene 1

[pycku]

Congratulations to Mika Hakkinen and Arrows, for gaining their first victory since 1978 (for Arrows, for Mika it is his first season)! We are a front runner, and with Ayrton's arrival we have everything to challenge the championship in 1991.

[Alextrax52]

God I did really well in my first alternative season and just a Victory away from a title. 2nd in both titles. good-ralf you need to keep my work up. In Takagi's game I'm trying to prove I can win with other teams.

Should we do a ROTY podium for this?

[Peteroli34]

[quote="Hermann95"]


4. Mika Häkkinen 38
7. Damon Hill 22



Constructors Championship
4. Arrows 59[quote]

Arrows Constructer Points don't tally with the drivers. Looking back over the resukts Hakkinen should have 35 Pts and Hill 24Pts making Arrows 59pts

[Alextrax52]

How did we finish in terms of usernames?

[Hermann95]

4. Mika Häkkinen 38
7. Damon Hill 22



Constructors Championship
4. Arrows 59

Arrows Constructer Points don't tally with the drivers. Looking back over the resukts Hakkinen should have 35 Pts and Hill 24Pts making Arrows 59pts

Looking again over my results Häkkinen should hav 36 points and Hill sould have 23 points, which would make arrows 59 points!

[Peteroli34]

Looking again over my results Häkkinen should hav 36 points and Hill sould have 23 points, which would make arrows 59 points!

Ok i must have calculated the wrong way around somwhere

[takagi_for_the_win]

Considering we had arguably the worst engine, I'm very happy to see our lead driver finish just 4 points off the Drivers title, and to be just 7 points off 2nd in the Constructors. Sure as hell hope the '91 chassis is as good as it's predecessor....