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The Chicane wrote:Anyone remember Stephen South? He drove for McLaren in 1980.

I like to think that I have heard of every single driver, but Stephen South is certainly one of the less notable ones in terms of their F1 careers. I do remember that he was quite a promising driver in his day, but his career but cut short by an accident in which he lost his foot.
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The Chicane wrote:Anyone remember Stephen South? He drove for McLaren in 1980.

I once came across his name in the past and just thought, "Who the flipping heck is he?!?!?" That made him kinda memorable straight away.
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dr-baker wrote:
The Chicane wrote:Anyone remember Stephen South? He drove for McLaren in 1980.

I once came across his name in the past and just thought, "Who the flipping heck is he?!?!?" That made him kinda memorable straight away.


He didn't manage to qualify for his sole race with McLaren in 1980 and things went south (no pun intended) after that whole foot amputation thing ending his racing career, but its nice to know he still visits historic meetings after the latter.
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He actually had a biography released only a couple of weeks ago (it's supposed to be great, actually) and I think someone here (Ataxia?) has been looking at profiling South at some stage. But yeah, he's definitely one of the better drivers with nothing better than a DNQ to his name in F1. Really unfortunate that it was Long Beach where he got his début given how weak McLaren were on street circuits in those days (Watson, a street circuit specialist, only qualified 21st).

I'd hardly call him forgettable though. Solely in terms of having driven in F1, maybe, but among "might-have-beens" like, say, Gonchi Rodríguez or Paul Warwick, absolutely not.
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Little bit of a Tangent from F1, but Milka Duno in Indycar in 2011, Anyone remember the Moving Chicane?
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Dexter249 wrote:Little bit of a Tangent from F1, but Milka Duno in Indycar in 2011, Anyone remember the Moving Chicane?

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Dexter249 wrote:Little bit of a Tangent from F1, but Milka Duno in Indycar in 2011, Anyone remember the Moving Chicane?

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She was no Danica Patrick.
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Two drivers who jumped out at me after looking at the 2016 list:

Rio Haryanto and Felipe Nasr. I'd completely forgotten about both of them already.
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Rob Dylan wrote:Rio Haryanto

Get out.

I hadn't forgotten about Gabriele Tarquini but I did forget he'd had such a long F1 career, I had it in my head he'd just done that one race in 1995 for Tyrell. Doh!
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CoopsII wrote:I hadn't forgotten about Gabriele Tarquini but I did forget he'd had such a long F1 career, I had it in my head he'd just done that one race in 1995 for Tyrell. Doh!


You forgot the AGS dream team from 1991?! (NB doesn't include first 2 races of the season)
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Barbazza wrote:
CoopsII wrote:I hadn't forgotten about Gabriele Tarquini but I did forget he'd had such a long F1 career, I had it in my head he'd just done that one race in 1995 for Tyrell. Doh!


You forgot the AGS dream team from 1991?! (NB doesn't include first 2 races of the season)

I did indeed. It may be because he had hair then.
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The possibility of Charles Leclerc gaining a race seat next year has got me thinking, he'll be only the 4th Monagasgue driver in F1 History and only the 3rd to start a race as one of them never qualified, step forward Andre Testut!
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1993DonningtonNo1Mk2 wrote:The possibility of Charles Leclerc gaining a race seat next year has got me thinking, he'll be only the 4th Monagasgue driver in F1 History and only the 3rd to start a race as one of them never qualified, step forward Andre Testut!

The other two, off the top of my head, being Olivier Beretta and Louis Chiron?
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dr-baker wrote:
1993DonningtonNo1Mk2 wrote:The possibility of Charles Leclerc gaining a race seat next year has got me thinking, he'll be only the 4th Monagasgue driver in F1 History and only the 3rd to start a race as one of them never qualified, step forward Andre Testut!

The other two, off the top of my head, being Olivier Beretta and Louis Chiron?


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>Implying Charles will qualify.
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Rob Dylan wrote:>Implying Charles will qualify.

Hardly likely that he won't unless of course, he doesn't get a race seat next year.
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1993DonningtonNo1Mk2 wrote:
Rob Dylan wrote:>Implying Charles will qualify.

Hardly likely that he won't unless of course, he doesn't get a race seat next year.

Unless he has a weekend reminiscent of MasterCard Lola...



Which is, of course, highly improbable.
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dr-baker wrote:
1993DonningtonNo1Mk2 wrote:
Rob Dylan wrote:>Implying Charles will qualify.

Hardly likely that he won't unless of course, he doesn't get a race seat next year.

Unless he has a weekend reminiscent of MasterCard Lola...



Which is, of course, highly improbable.


Especially in this day and age
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Felipe Nasr. I remember his first race, and then Brazil last year. But until I was talking about Manor just earlier today on another thread, I'd forgotten he existed :D for a few full seasons, no less. Maybe had he won the ROTY award he would have been remembered a little better by the GPRejects community.
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This morning I was just randomly looking around Wikipedia on old Grands Prix when I stumbled onto a name I didn't recognize. His name was Arthur Owen. He drove his one and only race at the Italian Grand Prix in 1960 in a privately entered Cooper. Starting 11th out of the 17 drivers, he unfortunately didn't even last a lap before crashing out due to brake failure.

It was also the only event for Americans Fred Gamble, Alfonso Thiele and Italian Piero Drogo, the latter of whom drove an entrant called Scuderia Colonia (no joke).
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Remembered that Felipe Nasr exists, and that even now after a full season out in 2017, he's still only 25 years old. That's mad young.
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Rob Dylan wrote:Two drivers who jumped out at me after looking at the 2016 list:

Rio Haryanto and Felipe Nasr. I'd completely forgotten about both of them already.

Rob Dylan wrote:Felipe Nasr. I remember his first race, and then Brazil last year. But until I was talking about Manor just earlier today on another thread, I'd forgotten he existed :D for a few full seasons, no less. Maybe had he won the ROTY award he would have been remembered a little better by the GPRejects community.

Rob Dylan wrote:Remembered that Felipe Nasr exists, and that even now after a full season out in 2017, he's still only 25 years old. That's mad young.

I think he's more memorable than you're giving him credit for there, Rob. :deletraz:
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I should really read my old posts before doing anything on this thread :P
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He keeps forgetting Nasr, and he keeps forgetting that he posts about him. I think you want to get your memory checked, Mr Dylan.
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Nasr, he's the one that nearly won the championship ten years ago, right?
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Considering I haven't watched F1 since like what? 2012, I forgot That Heikki Kovalainen actually drove for McLaren in 2009.
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Dexter249 wrote:Considering I haven't watched F1 since like what? 2012, I forgot That Heikki Kovalainen actually drove for McLaren in 2009.


Mate, we all forgot Heikki Kovalainen drove for McLaren in 2009 back in 2009. You're not alone there.

Funnily enough, I forget Giedo van der Garde ever raced in F1 at some points in my life. Sometimes, I remember his Sauber fiasco and think how rude it was of Monisha to rid him of his debut. This is usually followed by an "Oh hang on" moment...
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WaffleCat wrote:Funnily enough, I forget Giedo van der Garde ever raced in F1 at some points in my life. Sometimes, I remember his Sauber fiasco and think how rude it was of Monisha to rid him of his debut. This is usually followed by an "Oh hang on" moment...

I'll never forget his performance at Canada in 2013, where he I can only assume he was performing a tribute act to all those glorious pre-blue flag backmarkers. Think he managed to take a bit of Webber's front wing off at some point to cap it off.
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I keep forgetting that Marcus Ericsson drive for Sauber last year. And that he has remained at the team?
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dr-baker wrote:I keep forgetting that Marcus Ericsson drive for Sauber last year. And that he has remained at the team?


Well, he's certainly tried to rectify that this year, 7 points now.
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Bottas. I managed to forget him in just two hours today.
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dr-baker wrote:I keep forgetting that Marcus Ericsson drive for Sauber last year. And that he has remained at the team?


Well, he's certainly tried to rectify that this year, 7 points now.

Maybe that was all the motivation he needed?
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Spectoremg wrote:Bottas. I managed to forget him in just two hours today.


That actually could bring up something interesting, where people forget number two drivers simply because the main driver dominated in their time at the team. Obviously, not to the extent of Dave Walker, because we all remember him for doing bathplug-all while Fittipaldi won the championship, but something similar.

Like, I easily remember Kovalainen for his poor McLaren form, but Fisichella at Renault and, oddly enough, Montoya at McLaren easily pass by me for their relative lack of success compared to Alonso and Raikkonen in those days.
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For me, Kovalainen is one of the drivers I honestly forget a lot as far as championship teammates go. Frentzen in 1997 I forget as well.

I think the one for me is maybe Schumacher 1994. Honestly ask any casual F1 fan who Schumacher's teammates were that year, and see if they can name two of them :P other than Jos Verstappen I can't see it.

On a sad note, I think in time people will think that Red Bull replaced Vettel with Verstappen, and people will forget the season and a bit of Daniil Kvyat in that car. The Russian really did have the worst luck, arriving in the least competitive time of the team's existence this decade.
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Rob Dylan wrote:For me, Kovalainen is one of the drivers I honestly forget a lot as far as championship teammates go. Frentzen in 1997 I forget as well.
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Def think Kovalainen is up there with the most forgottable F1 winners. I also forget that Seb Boudrais (sp) had a stint in F1.
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I reckon Hartley will be forgotten about in two or three seasons time.
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Not by this Kiwiphile! But by most F1 fans, probably.
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I'll never forget screaming "C'mon Brendon!" from the stands as his car came into retirement on lap two at Silverstone.

Looking at the participants of last season, I totally forgot about Giovinazzi's two-race stint. I remembered Button's one-off, but forgot about di Resta's. In fact, di Resta's stint is maybe the weirdest one-race stint this whole decade if you discount Lotterer or maybe Custard Man :facepalm:
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Rob Dylan wrote:Looking at the participants of last season, I totally forgot about Giovinazzi's two-race stint. I remembered Button's one-off, but forgot about di Resta's. In fact, di Resta's stint is maybe the weirdest one-race stint this whole decade if you discount Lotterer or maybe Custard Man :facepalm:

Don't forget - though that's not the point of this thread - Karun Chandhok's spectacular one-off appearance for Fondmetal Team Malaysia. He outqualified both Toro Rossos and a Williams and even dragged that misfiring heap of green and yellow junk to a points position while Heikki Kovalainen was stone dead last...

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