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Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 16 May 2009, 17:36
by DonTirri
Seeing as we've discussed the worst non-reject liveries, I figured I'd flip it around and ask you: What in your opinion are the best looking liveries ever to grace a Reject-car?

My first submission is a livery that I've always had an odd liking of. The 1995 Pacific:

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Second is another livery I've always thought looked great. the 1989 EuroBrun
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Discuss!

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 16 May 2009, 17:55
by Irisado
I like both of those liveries. I've always liked the Pacific colours, especially with the subtle Lotus addition, and the orange was certainly an improvement for EuroBrun after that dirty shade of white they used in 1988.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 16 May 2009, 19:58
by watka
I find the Monteverdi liveries appealing in a strange way...

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Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 16 May 2009, 20:25
by thehemogoblin
watka wrote:I find the Monteverdi liveries appealing in a strange way...

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That car just looks slow.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 16 May 2009, 20:30
by domi-kun
thehemogoblin wrote:
watka wrote:I find the Monteverdi liveries appealing in a strange way...

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That car just looks slow.


Who's driving the car in this picture, I don't recognize that helmet.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 16 May 2009, 20:48
by Jack O Malley
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1996 Forti-Shannon wasn't that bad.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 16 May 2009, 20:57
by Paul Hayes
I'd forgotten that Forti ever used a colour other than yellow that year.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 16 May 2009, 21:04
by Jack O Malley
Paul Hayes wrote:I'd forgotten that Forti ever used a colour other than yellow that year.

whoops, it was 1996, typo.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 16 May 2009, 21:04
by watka
domi-kun wrote:
thehemogoblin wrote:
watka wrote:I find the Monteverdi liveries appealing in a strange way...

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That car just looks slow.


Who's driving the car in this picture, I don't recognize that helmet.


It's Stefan Johansson.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 16 May 2009, 21:09
by DonTirri
watka wrote:I find the Monteverdi liveries appealing in a strange way...

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Actually, thats Onyx.

This is Monteverdi:
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Yes, its the same car and same team, only the owner and main sponsorship changed :P

Still, the green stripes on the monteverdi looked horrid.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 17 May 2009, 03:15
by RejectSteve
I also liked the livery on the Pacific PR02, the wavy Lotus stripe was a thing of beauty. I didn't recall Forti using green wheels in 1996, but those are a nice touch carried over from 1995. Such a pity the Shannon money never eventuated.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 17 May 2009, 03:53
by Paul Hayes
Jack O Malley wrote:
Paul Hayes wrote:I'd forgotten that Forti ever used a colour other than yellow that year.

whoops, it was 1996, typo.


Ah, I am relieved now that the old memory still has something going for it! 1995 was the season in which I became an F1 fan, so a lot of it seems to stick in the mind.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 17 May 2009, 11:50
by Irisado
I think that the canary yellow was a much better colour on the Forti. The Shannon colours were quite dull and didn't really reflect the team's Italian/Brazilian heritage in my opinion. It's quite funny, because as soon as I saw those Shannon colours when they appeared at Barcelona in 1996, I thought that it wouldn't last, and the fact that neither Forti qualified that weekend said it all really.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 17 May 2009, 12:12
by Yannick
I like the looks of the Fondmetal of 1992, but that's more down to the shape of the car than the colour scheme.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 17 May 2009, 12:16
by Irisado
Yannick wrote:I like the looks of the Fondmetal of 1992, but that's more down to the shape of the car than the colour scheme.


Funnily enough the 1995 Forti was allegedly based on the 1992 Fondmetal, and like you, I rather liked the shape of the 1992 Fondmetal, so perhaps that's part of the reason why I like the 1995 Forti so much.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 17 May 2009, 12:21
by Nuppiz
Well you guys have already represented quite a few of my favourites, but there's still one that I like: the 1989 Rial
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I like that combination of blue and white with a black rear wing as some contrast.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 17 May 2009, 12:37
by Irisado
I was rather fond of the 1989 Osella livery, simple but effective.

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Going back to the Forti livery discussion, here is a picture of the gourgeous (in my opinion) 1995 Forti:

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Also, the 1996 Forti prior to the Shannon era was very attractive in my view:

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Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 17 May 2009, 13:55
by Henrique
Yellow Fortis all the way for me.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 17 May 2009, 16:04
by crazydude1992
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I quite like this one.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 17 May 2009, 18:28
by Valrys
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The 1992 Fondmetal, imo, was a very nice looking car, both in design and colour scheme, the red, black and silvery-white worked really well. Although, saying that, the 1995 Pacific has to be THE nicest colour scheme to grace a reject team, with a honourable mention to both yellow and green fortis, who were let down by having a not very nice looking car design

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 17 May 2009, 20:52
by Jack O Malley
Valrys wrote:The 1992 Fondmetal, imo, was a very nice looking car, both in design and colour scheme, the red, black and silvery-white worked really well.


I like those colours too. And I like the yellow Fortis as well, even if all that yellow always makes me think about a big piece of cheese. By the way I really can't look at the shape of the first '95 Forti (the pic with PPD in BAires), with that bulky front and extremely thin nose.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 18 May 2009, 18:30
by WeirdKerr
I give you the 1991 Coloni C4

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Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 18 May 2009, 21:20
by thehemogoblin
That car is startlingly devoid of sponsorship.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 18 May 2009, 21:43
by WeirdKerr
yeah.... you dont see cars like that these days lol.....

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 18 May 2009, 23:14
by DonTirri
WeirdKerr wrote:yeah.... you dont see cars like that these days lol.....

brawn?

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 19 May 2009, 13:15
by Life w12
Before it got littered with sponsors, the Lambo-Modena look good
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Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 19 May 2009, 19:19
by Python
Valrys wrote:Image
The 1992 Fondmetal, imo, was a very nice looking car, both in design and colour scheme, the red, black and silvery-white worked really well. Although, saying that, the 1995 Pacific has to be THE nicest colour scheme to grace a reject team, with a honourable mention to both yellow and green fortis, who were let down by having a not very nice looking car design


That is nice looking car, paint and design wise as well.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 19 May 2009, 20:54
by noisebox
Life w12 wrote:Before it got littered with sponsors, the Lambo-Modena look good
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I particularly like the gaffer tape holding on the engine cover!

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 20 May 2009, 05:51
by Goa
Life w12 wrote:Before it got littered with sponsors, the Lambo-Modena look good
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It does look good, but you're also more or less able to tell that it was slow just by looking at it.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 20 May 2009, 08:14
by TomWazzleshaw
noisebox wrote:
Life w12 wrote:Before it got littered with sponsors, the Lambo-Modena look good
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I particularly like the gaffer tape holding on the engine cover!

Thank you for making my day :mrgreen:
And it would need quite a bit of that tape too considering the size of those sidepods. They're tiny...

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 20 May 2009, 19:40
by Irisado
I agree that the 1992 Fondmetal is a good looking car, but has anyone noticed, and I know I've mentioned this before, how similar it looks to the Forti FG01 before they made the 'B' Spec with the high nose for the 1995 French Grand Prix onwards?

I had previously read about the notion that the FG01 was based on the GR02 (both were designed by Sergio Rinland), but having seen pictures of both together for the first time really does suggest to me that this rumour is accurate.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's Andrea Chiesa driving the Fondmetal in that photo (I'm sure his car was number fourteen), and that's the first time I've seen his helmet colour, which I think contrasts very well with the colour scheme of the Fondmetal.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 21 May 2009, 00:16
by minrdi
Irisado wrote:I agree that the 1992 Fondmetal is a good looking car, but has anyone noticed, and I know I've mentioned this before, how similar it looks to the Forti FG01 before they made the 'B' Spec with the high nose for the 1995 French Grand Prix onwards?

I had previously read about the notion that the FG01 was based on the GR02 (both were designed by Sergio Rinland), but having seen pictures of both together for the first time really does suggest to me that this rumour is accurate.


I'm sure I read somewhere (probably on the pages of F1 Rejects!) that Rinland was a big fan of the "shark nose" design concept at the front end of his cars, which he implemented on both the Fondmetal and Fortis. In each instance, sadly, the cars were fitted with grossly underpowered engines and were very overweight (particularly the Forti), so the merits of this design concept could never actually be truly weighed up.

The Fondmetal actually appeared on a F1 Racing poll of the "Top-100 most beautiful F1 cars ever built", although I think that Rinland being a panellist for that particularly poll may have had quite a bit to do with it. ;)

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 21 May 2009, 21:43
by noisebox
Valrys wrote:Image
The 1992 Fondmetal, imo, was a very nice looking car, both in design and colour scheme, the red, black and silvery-white worked really well. Although, saying that, the 1995 Pacific has to be THE nicest colour scheme to grace a reject team, with a honourable mention to both yellow and green fortis, who were let down by having a not very nice looking car design

I think that picture was taken at Spa - in which case I was at that race. A certain promising young German driver picked up his first win...

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 21 May 2009, 22:07
by Jack O Malley
noisebox wrote:
Valrys wrote:Image
The 1992 Fondmetal, imo, was a very nice looking car, both in design and colour scheme, the red, black and silvery-white worked really well. Although, saying that, the 1995 Pacific has to be THE nicest colour scheme to grace a reject team, with a honourable mention to both yellow and green fortis, who were let down by having a not very nice looking car design

I think that picture was taken at Spa - in which case I was at that race. A certain promising young German driver picked up his first win...

I'm quite sure that's Magny-Cours. Andrea Chiesa didn't compete in Spa 1992.

edit: look at the filename...

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 21 May 2009, 22:14
by minrdi
I forgot to post this in my lasty reply, but it's interesting that we haven't yet mentioned the Simtek team's liveries, which must surely rank as among the best liveries of a reject team:

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Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 22 May 2009, 01:02
by RejectSteve
Jack O Malley wrote:I'm quite sure that's Magny-Cours. Andrea Chiesa didn't compete in Spa 1992.

edit: look at the filename...
The other hint would be the Rhone-Poulenc adverts in the background.
minrdi wrote:I forgot to post this in my lasty reply, but it's interesting that we haven't yet mentioned the Simtek team's liveries, which must surely rank as among the best liveries of a reject team
While I agree that the paint schemes were nice, my aversion to MTV will not allow me to comment further.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 22 May 2009, 09:51
by Jack O Malley
RejectSteve wrote:
Jack O Malley wrote:I'm quite sure that's Magny-Cours. Andrea Chiesa didn't compete in Spa 1992.

edit: look at the filename...
The other hint would be the Rhone-Poulenc adverts in the background.


Yep, I got it from this.

I've always liked the Simtek colour scheme...

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 22 May 2009, 10:24
by Niallllll
My aversion to SImtek is the fact that is enabled 'Davina mcCaul' into the paddock as part of the menagerie of journalists that swan about the place. Which is directly connected with MTV is suppose since she was working with them at the time.
She openly admitted that she had no clue who was who and what was what while there. That annoys me no end.

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 22 May 2009, 18:37
by noisebox
Jack O Malley wrote:I'm quite sure that's Magny-Cours. Andrea Chiesa didn't compete in Spa 1992.

edit: look at the filename...

And the rather large Rhone Poulenc ad in the background... :roll:

Re: Best Reject-team Liveries

Posted: 23 May 2009, 01:04
by Waris
DonTirri wrote:
watka wrote:I find the Monteverdi liveries appealing in a strange way...

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Actually, thats Onyx.

This is Monteverdi:
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Yes, its the same car and same team, only the owner and main sponsorship changed :P

Still, the green stripes on the monteverdi looked horrid.


That guy's helmet design looks a bit like Kovalainen's. Who is that, Gregor Foitek?