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Fastest rejectdom escapers

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I just wanted to see how fast (i.e. after how many enters) contemporary non-reject drivers have escaped eligibility.
Starting with 2009 drivers:

Hamilton: 1st race (3rd aus 07, McLaren)
Kubica: 3rd race (3rd ita 06, BMW Sauber)
Button: 4th race (5th gbr 00, Williams)
Massa: 5th race (5th spa 02, Sauber)
Raikkonen: 6th race (4th aut 01, Sauber)
Kovalainen: 6th race (4th can 07, Renault)
Vettel: 7th race (4th chn 07, STR)
Piquet: 10th race (2nd ger 08, Renault)
Trulli: 10th race (4th ger 97, Prost)
Glock: 11th race (4th can 08, Toyota)
Fisichella: 12th race (4th smr 97, Jordan)
Barrichello: 17th race (4th bra 94, Jordan)
Heidfeld: 18th race (4th aus 01, Sauber)
Alonso: 19th race (3rd mal 03, Renault)
Webber: 25th race (6th eur 03, Jaguar)
Rosberg: 32nd race (6th bel 07, Williams)
Nakajima, Sutil, Buemi, Bourdais: Reject!!

it would be nice to compare retired drivers.
It's funny how Webber finished 5th in his first race but had to wait 24 more to escape rejectdom.
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Here's some 2005/06/07/08 retirees' (at least for now) rejectdom escapes:

Jacques Villeneuve: 1st race (2nd, AUS 96, Williams)
Alexander Wurz: 3rd race (3rd, GBR 97, Benetton)
Ralf Schumacher; 3rd race (3rd, ARG 97, Jordan)
David Coulthard: 3rd race (5th, GBR 94, Williams)
Michael Schumacher: 3rd race (6th, POR 91, Benetton)
Juan Pablo Montoya: 5th race (2nd, ESP 01, Williams)
Tiago Monteiro: 9th race (3rd, US 05, Jordan)
Narain Karthikeyan: 9th race (4th, USA 05, Jordan)
Takuma Sato: 18th race (6th, JPN 03, BAR)
Pedro de la Rosa: 27th race (6th, GER 00, Arrows)
Ricardo Zonta: 28th race (6th, US 00, BAR)
Christian Klien: 33rd race (5th, CHN 05, Red Bull)

Antonio Pizzonia, Vitantonio Liuzzi, Yuji Ide, Robert Doornbos, Scott Speed, Patrick Friesacher, Christijan Albers, Sakon Yamamoto, Franck Montagny, Anthony Davidson: Rejects! (at least for now)
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This gives me a question though. To whom it took the most races to escape rejectom of all F1 drivers?
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crazydude1992 wrote:This gives me a question though. To whom it took the most races to escape rejectom of all F1 drivers?

I have an itch that it's Philippe Alliot, in his 44th race (48th entry), he scored his 3rd sixth place finish of his career. But I'm still looking for if someone took even longer.

EDIT: Nicola Larini took 2nd in his 45th start (70th entry), so he beats Alliot by one race...
EDIT2: Jonathan Palmer took his second fifth in his 46th start (48th entry), so he beats Larini by one race...
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That's it, so the podium for the slowest rejectdom escapes is:

1. Jonathan Palmer: 46 starts, 48 entries before escaping rejectdom
2. Nicola Larini: 45 starts, 70 entries before escaping rejectdom
3. Philippe Alliot: 44 starts, 48 entries before escaping rejectdom
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It took Pedro Diniz 47 starts to get a fifth, having had two sixths before that so he tops the table.
(Debut Bra 1995, sixth Esp 96 and Ita 96, finally fifth at Lux 97)
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DonTirri wrote:It took Pedro Diniz 47 starts to get a fifth, having had two sixths before that so he tops the table.
(Debut Bra 1995, sixth Esp 96 and Ita 96, finally fifth at Lux 97)

Oops, you're right! I looked at his profile quickly and thought that I saw one 5th and one 6th in 1996, but I was wrong! Here's the fixed podium:

1. Pedro Diniz: 47 starts, 47 entries before escaping rejectdom
2. Jonathan Palmer: 46 starts, 48 entries before escaping rejectdom
3. Nicola Larini: 45 starts, 70 entries before escaping rejectdom
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Gianni Morbidelli shares 4th place with Alliot with 44 starts (45 entries).
It's a very very tight "leader"board!
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We are counting them on the number of starts, but in the case of a tie between two or more drivers the total entries count too.
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I guess Nicola Larini didn't get along with qualification.
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thehemogoblin wrote:I guess Nicola Larini didn't get along with qualification.

Who would with Coloni, Osella and Lamborghini? :lol:
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Are there any reject drivers who have a higher amount of either entries or starts than the current longest running ex-reject Diniz? Luca Badoer maybe, counting with counting in the Friday appearances he made?

And didn't Roberto Moreno have the same kind of qualifying troubles as Larini? How many entries before escaping rejectdom does he have?

edit: I'Ve been checking these two just now.
Badoer has 49 starts and 61 entries and is featured on the website.
Moreno has escaped rejectdom in his 9th start, which was also his 34th entry (!)
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Badoer has 49 starts (61 entries)
Sutil has 42 starts (45 entries).
Davidson has 24 starts (61 entries)

These are taken from statsf1.com. Entries may change. Badoer has listed 6 DNQs with Scuderia Italia and Forti as well as DNS at Australia 1995 (car failed on dummy grid), four with Scuderia Italia and Forti withdrawing (two each) and one injury (Brazil 1999)

Davidson has 36 test driver entries and one with team withdrawal.
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Nuppiz wrote:
DonTirri wrote:It took Pedro Diniz 47 starts to get a fifth, having had two sixths before that so he tops the table.
(Debut Bra 1995, sixth Esp 96 and Ita 96, finally fifth at Lux 97)

Oops, you're right! I looked at his profile quickly and thought that I saw on 5th and one 6th in 1996, but I was wrong! Here's the fixed podium:

1. Pedro Diniz: 47 starts, 47 entries before escaping rejectdom
2. Jonathan Palmer: 46 starts, 48 entries before escaping rejectdom
3. Nicola Larini: 45 starts, 70 entries before escaping rejectdom


Sorry for bumping this very old thread, but from ITA 09 we have a new leaderboard! ;)

1. Adrian Sutil : 48 starts
2. Pedro Diniz: 47 starts
3. Jonathan Palmer: 46 starts (48 entries)
4. Nicola Larini: 45 starts (70 entries)
5. Philippe Alliot: 44 starts (48 entries)
6. Gianni Morbidelli: 44 starts (45 entries)
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Isn't it funny how Sutil waited exactly ONE race longer to escape eligibility only to just surpass Diniz?
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Yannick wrote:Isn't it funny how Sutil waited exactly ONE race longer to escape eligibility only to just surpass Diniz?


Isn't it funny that every single driver on the "leader"board has beaten the record by at least 1 race?
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Just out of curiosity I compiled a list of F1 world champions and how long it took them to escape rejectdom:

Nino Farina: 1st race (1st in GBR 50)
Juan Manuel Fangio: 2nd race (1st in MON 50)
Alberto Ascari: 2nd race (2nd in MON 50)
Mike Hawthorn: 3rd race (3rd in GBR 52)
Jack Brabham: 8th race (4th in MON 58)
Phil Hill: 3rd race (3rd in ITA 58)
Graham Hill: 19th race (3rd in NED 60)
Jim Clark: 5th race (3rd in POR 60)
John Surtees: 2nd race (2nd in GBR 60)
Denny Hulme: 2nd race (4th in FRA 65)
Jackie Stewart: 2nd race: (3rd in MON 65)
Jochen Rindt: 8th race (4th in GER 65)
Emerson Fittipaldi: 2nd race (4th in GER 70)
Niki Lauda: 29th race (2nd in ARG 74)
James Hunt: 3rd race (4th in GBR 73)
Mario Andretti: 6th race (3rd in ESP 70)
Jody Scheckter: 11th race (3rd in BEL 74)
Alan Jones: 11th race (5th in GER 75 and then another 5th in BEL 76)
Nelson Piquet: 17th race (4th in NED 79)
Keke Rosberg: 24th race (3rd in ARG 80)
Alain Prost: 2nd race (6th in ARG 80 and then 5th in BRA 80)
Ayrton Senna: 6th race (2nd in MON 84)
Nigel Mansell: 7th race (3rd in BEL 81)
Michael Schumacher: 3rd race (5th ITA 91 and then 6th in POR 91)
Damon Hill: 10th race (2nd in BRA 93)
Jacques Villeneuve: 1st race (2nd in AUS 96)
Mika Häkkinen: 18th race (5th in SMR 91 and then 6th in MEX 92)
Fernando Alonso: 19th race (3rd in MAL 03)
Kimi Räikkönen: 6th race (4th in AUT 01)
Lewis Hamilton: 1st race (3rd in AUS 07)
Jenson Button: 4th race (5th in GBR 00)


So the leaderboard with most races before escape for Champions reads...

1st: Niki Lauda with 29 races
2nd: Keke Rosberg with 24 races
3rd: Graham Hill and Fernando Alonso with 19 races.
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It's funny to me how Senna lost his rejectivity at Monaco. He owned the Principality from the moment he set foot in it.
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