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Re: Another kind of alternative championship

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Ferrim wrote:With no Lauda and no Prost in '84, De Angelis will take the title... it's like the third killed driver who wins it under this system.

'85 should be Alboreto's, '86 and '87 will be Mansell's and Piquet's (can't say the order), '88 should be Senna's and then '89, '90 and '91 will be pretty interesting. Patrese, Boutsen and Berger start as the favourites, with Alesi an outside chance for '91.


Then 92 should be Schummi, 93 Hill!!! And 94?? Could be Alesi or Hakkinen in that case!, 95 should be Coulthard
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Ferrim wrote:86 and '87 will be Mansell's and Piquet's (can't say the order), '88 should be Senna's


Actually, if Piquet wins in 1986, then 1987 could go to Senna (there were quite a few races where Senna was right behind Piquet, so he could pick up enough points to overhaul Mansell) which would mean Mansell would probably have to wait until 1990 or 1991 to be champion, with Berger winning in 88, Patrese in 89, and Boutsen in 90 or Alesi in 91 depending on when Mansell wins.
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Other than working out when Schumacher would win his title, I've refrained from guessing - I think it's more fun to see what Bleu comes out with. Keep up the good work!

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Re: Another kind of alternative championship

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I'm wondering if Giancarlo Fisichella might be able to pinch enough points to be champion in 2006, he finished just 8 points behind Massa in 2006 but Felipe had more podiums, which ironically means he stands to gain less from the removal of Schumacher, Alonso, Kimi, Ralf, Montoya, Coulthard, Button and Rubens.

This would deny poor Kubica the 2008 title.
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Re: Another kind of alternative championship

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1984
Elio de Angelis 51 (1 win, 4 2nd, 3 3rd*)
Michele Alboreto 43,5 (3 wins, 2 2nd)
Rene Arnoux 43 (2 wins, 1 2nd*, 4 3rd)
Derek Warwick 37 (3 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 37 (3 wins, 1 2nd)
Ayrton Senna 26,5 (2 wins*, 1 2nd)
Patrick Tambay 20 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 18 (2 2nd)
Riccardo Patrese 16 (2 2nd)
Andrea de Cesaris 11 (1 3rd)
Teo Fabi 10 (2 3rd)
Thierry Boutsen 9 (3 4th)
Eddie Cheever 7 (1 2nd)
Piercarlo Ghinzani 6 (1 3rd)
Stefan Johansson 4 (1 3rd)
Marc Surer 4 (2 5th)
Jo Gartner 3 (1 4th)
Corrado Fabi 2 (1 5th)
Gerhard Berger 2 (1 5th)
Mauro Baldi 2 (2 6th)
Manfred Winkelhock 2 (2 6th)
Jonathan Palmer 1 (1 6th)
Francois Hesnault 1 (1 6th)

de Angelis won only one race, but was in the points 11 times, which was very important. Only five drivers finished at Monaco, so only two drivers with half points. I also included Gartner and Berger here normally, actually they were not eligible for points.
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Should Stefan Bellof not be there somewhere? With a second place with half points?
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1985
Michele Alboreto 69 (5 wins, 4 2nd)
Ayrton Senna 50 (4 wins, 2 2nd)
Nigel Mansell 46 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 4 3rd)
Stefan Johansson 45 (1 win, 3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 34 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Thierry Boutsen 30 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Patrick Tambay 23 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Gerhard Berger 15 (1 3rd, 3 4th)
Marc Surer 15 (1 3rd, 2 4th)
Philippe Streiff 12 (1 win)
Derek Warwick 12 (2 3rd)
Martin Brundle 11 (1 4th)
Stefan Bellof 10 (1 3rd)
Andrea de Cesaris 6 (1 2nd)
Rene Arnoux 6 (1 2nd)
Ivan Capelli 6 (1 2nd)
John Watson 3 (1 4th)
Huub Rothengatter 2 (1 5th)
Riccardo Patrese 2 (2 6th)
Philippe Alliot 1 (1 6th)
Pierluigi Martini 1 (1 6th)

Alboreto was dominant early but struggled towards the end. Luckily for him, title was in the bag already.
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shinji wrote:Should Stefan Bellof not be there somewhere? With a second place with half points?


Tyrrell team was cheating, so no.
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Bleu wrote:
shinji wrote:Should Stefan Bellof not be there somewhere? With a second place with half points?


Tyrrell team was cheating, so no.


Oh right, yes. Fair enough.
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1986
Nelson Piquet 82 (6 wins, 4 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 77 (5 wins, 4 2nd, 2 3rd)
Ayrton Senna 65 (3 wins, 5 2nd, 2 3rd)
Stefan Johansson 33 (1 win, 1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Gerhard Berger 26 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Rene Arnoux 26 (4 3rd)
Martin Brundle 15 (1 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 12 (1 3rd)
Thierry Boutsen 9 (4 5th)
Patrick Tambay 8 (1 2nd)
Teo Fabi 8 (1 3rd)
Johnny Dumfries 8 (1 4th, 2 5th)
Philippe Streiff 8 (1 4th, 1 5th)
Christian Danner 5 (1 3rd)
Derek Warwick 4 (2 5th)
Jonathan Palmer 2 (1 5th)
Huub Rothengatter 2 (1 5th)
Philippe Alliot 2 (1 5th)
Marc Surer 2 (2 6th)

So Piquet finally takes title, winning the final after Mansell retired.
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1987
Ayrton Senna 73 (4 wins, 5 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 67 (6 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Stefan Johansson 52 (3 wins, 1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Gerhard Berger 49 (3 wins, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Thierry Boutsen 27 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Teo Fabi 23 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jonathan Palmer 17 (2 3rd)
Eddie Cheever 16 (2 3rd)
Satoru Nakajima 14 (1 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 10 (1 2nd)
Philippe Streiff 9 (1 3rd)
Philippe Alliot 7 (1 4th)
Andrea de Cesaris 6 (1 2nd)
Derek Warwick 6 (2 4th)
Martin Brundle 5 (1 4th)
Christian Danner 4 (4 6th)
Ivan Capelli 3 (1 4th)
Yannick Dalmas 3 (1 4th)
Rene Arnoux 2 (1 5th)
Roberto Moreno 2 (1 5th)
Piercarlo Ghinzani 2 (2 6th)

Mansell had too much zero races.
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1988
Gerhard Berger 75 (6 wins, 3 2nd)
Thierry Boutsen 68 (5 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Derek Warwick 42 (4 2nd, 2 3rd)
Ivan Capelli 39 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Alessandro Nannini 29 (3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 24 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Eddie Cheever 21 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 18 (2 wins)
Mauricio Gugelmin 15 (2 3rd, 1 4th)
Satoru Nakajima 15 (2 3rd)
Jonathan Palmer 12 (3 3rd)
Andrea de Cesaris 10 (1 2nd)
Pierluigi Martini 6 (2 4th)
Alex Caffi 6 (1 4th)
Yannick Dalmas 6 (2 5th)
Martin Brundle 3 (1 4th)
Gabriele Tarquini 2 (1 5th)
Luis Perez Sala 2 (1 5th)
Stefan Johansson 2 (2 6th)
Philippe Streiff 2 (2 6th)
Philippe Alliot 1 (1 6th)

With McLarens out along some others, Berger and Boutsen have close fight. Illegal fuel at Spa became quite fateful...
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Bleu wrote:1988
Gerhard Berger 75 (6 wins, 3 2nd)


I approve of this result :mrgreen:
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Re: Another kind of alternative championship

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1989
Riccardo Patrese 58 (2 wins, 6 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 54 (6 wins)
Thierry Boutsen 51 (3 wins, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Alessandro Nannini 50 (2 wins, 4 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jean Alesi 18 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Derek Warwick 18 (2 3rd)
Eddie Cheever 17 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Martin Brundle 14 (1 3rd)
Stefan Johansson 13 (1 win)
Alex Caffi 13 (1 2nd)
Pierluigi Martini 12 (2 3rd)
Andrea de Cesaris 10 (1 3rd)
Stefano Modena 9 (1 win)
Mauricio Gugelmin 9 (1 2nd)
Jonathan Palmer 9 (2 4th)
Johnny Herbert 7 (1 3rd)
Gabriele Tarquini 6 (1 3rd)
Satoru Nakajima 6 (1 4th)
Olivier Grouillard 6 (1 5th)
Christian Danner 5 (1 3rd)
Philippe Alliot 4 (1 3rd)
Luis Perez Sala 4 (1 4th)
Emanuele Pirro 4 (2 5th)
Rene Arnoux 3 (1 4th)

Despite it looks so close, it was only Mansell and Patrese who were fighting for the title in Adelaide, having started on equal points. Some nice podium guys there, especially Tarquini! Onyx winning race and so on...
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Bleu wrote:Onyx winning race...


:D :D :D

Also, when I saw Modena's name I thought EuroBrun had won a race, but then I remembered he was at Brabham in '89.
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Re: Another kind of alternative championship

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Bleu wrote:1987
Ayrton Senna 73 (4 wins, 5 2nd, 1 3rd)


What. The. Hell!!!!!

I really wasn't expecting this one. Senna wins the title in a Lotus!

I refrain from making any other prediction for the remaining years. :lol:
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Re: Another kind of alternative championship

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1990
Nigel Mansell 63 (7 wins)
Thierry Boutsen 60 (2 wins, 5 2nd, 2 3rd)
Alessandro Nannini 50 (3 wins, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jean Alesi 43 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Derek Warwick 22 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Eric Bernard 22 (1 2nd , 2 3rd)
Aguri Suzuki 19 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Ivan Capelli 18 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Alex Caffi 17 (1 win, 3 4th)
Satoru Nakajima 15 (1 2nd, 3 4th)
Roberto Moreno 13 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Nicola Larini 11 (1 4th)
Mauricio Gugelmin 10 (1 2nd)
Stefano Modena 9 (2 3rd)
Martin Donnelly 9 (2 4th)
Pierluigi Martini 9 (4 5th)
Philippe Alliot 5 (1 4th)
Gregor Foitek 2 (1 5th)
Andrea de Cesaris 2 (1 5th)

Some very shocking amount of points there. Mansell and Boutsen started the final race equal, Nigel won and Boutsen was 2nd. Also, Nannini's and Moreno's point tallies equal Mansell...
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BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Ferrim wrote:86 and '87 will be Mansell's and Piquet's (can't say the order), '88 should be Senna's


Actually, if Piquet wins in 1986, then 1987 could go to Senna (there were quite a few races where Senna was right behind Piquet, so he could pick up enough points to overhaul Mansell) which would mean Mansell would probably have to wait until 1990 or 1991 to be champion, with Berger winning in 88, Patrese in 89, and Boutsen in 90 or Alesi in 91 depending on when Mansell wins.


Called it! :D
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No Senna, no Mansell, no Patrese, no Berger, no Prost and no Piquet for '91... mmm...

It should be Alesi's, but now I'm contradicting myself as I said I wouldn't make any other prediction!
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BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Ferrim wrote:86 and '87 will be Mansell's and Piquet's (can't say the order), '88 should be Senna's


Actually, if Piquet wins in 1986, then 1987 could go to Senna (there were quite a few races where Senna was right behind Piquet, so he could pick up enough points to overhaul Mansell) which would mean Mansell would probably have to wait until 1990 or 1991 to be champion, with Berger winning in 88, Patrese in 89, and Boutsen in 90 or Alesi in 91 depending on when Mansell wins.


Called it! :D


Now that is seriously impressive. Still have 91 to go though :lol:

If only you were anywhere near as good at predicament predictions :lol:
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An interesting thing...

I've been revisiting the 1991 season results and I've found out that Andrea de Cesaris finished 4th at Mexico, one lap down, but he's listed as having retired, because his car stopped on the last lap. The rest of the field was lapped and therefore he kept his 4th place.

Now, that race was won by Patrese, followed by Mansell and Senna. Now that all of the three have been crowned champions in this parallel reality, De Cesaris would win this race... but he NEVER crossed the line, so he can't win it! If he had been running in the lead and stopped in the last lap, everyone running on the same lap as Roberto Moreno (who finished 5th) would have got past De Cesaris. Therefore the order should be Moreno-Bernard-Morbidelli-De Cesaris, as listed here.

Is this thing being taken into account in the standings?
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Ferrim wrote:An interesting thing...

I've been revisiting the 1991 season results and I've found out that Andrea de Cesaris finished 4th at Mexico, one lap down, but he's listed as having retired, because his car stopped on the last lap. The rest of the field was lapped and therefore he kept his 4th place.

Now, that race was won by Patrese, followed by Mansell and Senna. Now that all of the three have been crowned champions in this parallel reality, De Cesaris would win this race... but he NEVER crossed the line, so he can't win it! If he had been running in the lead and stopped in the last lap, everyone running on the same lap as Roberto Moreno (who finished 5th) would have got past De Cesaris. Therefore the order should be Moreno-Bernard-Morbidelli-De Cesaris, as listed here.

Is this thing being taken into account in the standings?


No. It's similar situation when driver has a collision with a driver who is not part of the race. See Hungary 1990 for example and what happened to Alessandro Nannini.
Also, we can't say that Moreno's car would have lasted 67th lap.
So here we go:
1991
Jean Alesi 70 (7 wins)
Andrea de Cesaris 42 (1 win, 4 2nd, 2 3rd*)
Roberto Moreno 34 (1 win, 3 2nd)
Stefano Modena 33 (2 wins, 2 2nd)
Bertrand Gachot 22 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Pierluigi Martini 22 (2 2nd)
Michael Schumacher 20 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Gianni Morbidelli 17 (1 win*, 1 3rd)
Emanuele Pirro 17 (1 2nd*, 1 3rd)
Mauricio Gugelmin 15 (3 3rd)
Thierry Boutsen 14 (2 4th)
JJ Lehto 13 (1 win, 1 4th)
Martin Brundle 13 (1 win, 1 5th)
Satoru Nakajima 10 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Ivan Capelli 10 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Mika Häkkinen 8 (1 3rd)
Mark Blundell 7 (1 2nd)
Johnny Herbert 6,5 (1 3rd)
Eric Bernard 5 (1 3rd)
Erik Comas 5 (1 5th)
Aguri Suzuki 4 (1 3rd)
Alessandro Zanardi 3,5 (1 4th*)
Nicola Larini 3 (1 4th)
Julian Bailey 3 (1 4th)
Gabriele Tarquini 3 (1 5th)
Alex Caffi 2 (1 5th)
Olivier Grouillard 1 (1 6th)

So it's Alesi who takes lots of wins, while no one else manages more than two. Tarquini scored two points for AGS and one for Fondmetal. Grouillard's point was for Fondmetal. Moreno scored only for Benetton.
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Bleu wrote:
Also, we can't say that Moreno's car would have lasted 67th lap.


That sounded convincing :D
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Bleu wrote:
Ferrim wrote:An interesting thing...

I've been revisiting the 1991 season results and I've found out that Andrea de Cesaris finished 4th at Mexico, one lap down, but he's listed as having retired, because his car stopped on the last lap. The rest of the field was lapped and therefore he kept his 4th place.

Now, that race was won by Patrese, followed by Mansell and Senna. Now that all of the three have been crowned champions in this parallel reality, De Cesaris would win this race... but he NEVER crossed the line, so he can't win it! If he had been running in the lead and stopped in the last lap, everyone running on the same lap as Roberto Moreno (who finished 5th) would have got past De Cesaris. Therefore the order should be Moreno-Bernard-Morbidelli-De Cesaris, as listed here.

Is this thing being taken into account in the standings?


No. It's similar situation when driver has a collision with a driver who is not part of the race. See Hungary 1990 for example and what happened to Alessandro Nannini.
Also, we can't say that Moreno's car would have lasted 67th lap.
So here we go:
1991
Jean Alesi 70 (7 wins)
Andrea de Cesaris 42 (1 win, 4 2nd, 2 3rd*)
Roberto Moreno 34 (1 win, 3 2nd)
Stefano Modena 33 (2 wins, 2 2nd)
Bertrand Gachot 22 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Pierluigi Martini 22 (2 2nd)
Michael Schumacher 20 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Gianni Morbidelli 17 (1 win*, 1 3rd)
Emanuele Pirro 17 (1 2nd*, 1 3rd)
Mauricio Gugelmin 15 (3 3rd)
Thierry Boutsen 14 (2 4th)
JJ Lehto 13 (1 win, 1 4th)
Martin Brundle 13 (1 win, 1 5th)
Satoru Nakajima 10 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Ivan Capelli 10 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Mika Häkkinen 8 (1 3rd)
Mark Blundell 7 (1 2nd)
Johnny Herbert 6,5 (1 3rd)
Eric Bernard 5 (1 3rd)
Erik Comas 5 (1 5th)
Aguri Suzuki 4 (1 3rd)
Alessandro Zanardi 3,5 (1 4th*)
Nicola Larini 3 (1 4th)
Julian Bailey 3 (1 4th)
Gabriele Tarquini 3 (1 5th)
Alex Caffi 2 (1 5th)
Olivier Grouillard 1 (1 6th)

So it's Alesi who takes lots of wins, while no one else manages more than two. Tarquini scored two points for AGS and one for Fondmetal. Grouillard's point was for Fondmetal. Moreno scored only for Benetton.


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Actually no. Morbidelli won Australian GP when he raced for Ferrari. Therefore asterisk, as he recieved only half points.
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However, a win for Gachot, Brundle and Lehto!
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I reckon Herbert might just make enough points to beat Coulthard to the 95 title, DC had a lot of retirements and Herbert had a lot of mid points finishes that will become podiums. DC only had 4 points in hand....
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1992
Michael Schumacher 106 (9 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Martin Brundle 90 (6 wins, 5 2nd)
Mika Häkkinen 39 (1 win, 2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Andrea de Cesaris 27 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Erik Comas 22 (3 3rd)
Pierluigi Martini 18 (2 2nd)
JJ Lehto 15 (2 4th)
Ivan Capelli 14 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Aguri Suzuki 13 (1 3rd)
Johnny Herbert 12 (1 2nd)
Thierry Boutsen 11 (1 3rd)
Karl Wendlinger 10 (1 2nd)
Christian Fittipaldi 8 (1 3rd)
Gianni Morbidelli 6 (1 3rd, 1 5th)
Mauricio Gugelmin 6 (1 3rd, 2 6th)
Stefano Modena 6 (2 4th)
Bertrand Gachot 4 (1 3rd)
Ukyo Katayama 4 (2 5th)
Olivier Grouillard 3 (1 4th)
Paul Belmondo 2 (1 5th)

It was closer between Benetton drivers than you would think. Brundle's catastrophic opening to the season really destroyed his season, as he failed to score in first four races. On the other note, Belmondo scoring points, but not unrejectifying himself.
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1993
Damon Hill 106 (10 wins, 1 2nd)
Martin Brundle 50 (1 win, 4 2nd, 4 3rd)
Mark Blundell 42 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Johnny Herbert 32 (1 win, 3 2nd)
Christian Fittipaldi 26 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Michael Andretti 25 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
JJ Lehto 22 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Karl Wendlinger 21 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Derek Warwick 18 (2 2nd)
Rubens Barrichello 11 (1 3rd)
Mika Häkkinen 10 (1 win)
Philippe Alliot 10 (1 3rd)
Erik Comas 9 (2 4th)
Alessandro Zanardi 8 (2 4th)
Fabrizio Barbazza 7 (1 3rd)
Aguri Suzuki 6 (1 3rd)
Pierluigi Martini 4 (2 5th)
Eddie Irvine 3 (1 4th)
Luca Badoer 2 (1 5th)
Thierry Boutsen 1 (1 6th)

Hill only beaten in Japan, Ligiers taking 2nd and 3rd, Andretti winning race, Barbazza in the podium and Badoer scoring points. Looks so great.
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Bleu wrote:... Andretti winning race...


Not to mention - he's behind Christian Fittipaldi's Minardi! :lol:
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IIRC this means Minardi are yet to win a race... :(
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Well, with Schumacher already out of the way, this is where it gets really good!
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1994
Mika Häkkinen 56 (4 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Rubens Barrichello 46 (2 wins, 3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Martin Brundle 33 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
David Coulthard 31 (2 wins, 2 3rd)
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 31 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Olivier Panis 24 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Eddie Irvine 21 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jos Verstappen 20 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Mark Blundell 18 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Pierluigi Martini 17 (2 2nd)
Christian Fittipaldi 17 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Ukyo Katayama 15 (1 2nd)
Johnny Herbert 13 (3 4th)
Erik Comas 12 (1 4th)
Nicola Larini 10 (1 win)
JJ Lehto 10 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Andrea de Cesaris 10 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Eric Bernard 10 (1 2nd, 2 5th)
Karl Wendlinger 8 (2 3rd)
Gianni Morbidelli 5 (1 4th, 1 5th)
Olivier Beretta 5 (1 4th, 2 6th)
Pedro Lamy 1 (1 6th)
Alessandro Zanardi 1 (1 6th)
Jean-Marc Gounon 1 (1 6th)
Mika Salo 1 (1 6th)

10 winners and Häkkinen claims way less than half of available points. de Cesaris had 6 points for Jordan, 4 for Sauber. Herbert had 11 points for Lotus, 2 for Ligier.
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This is where it starts getting interesting. It's 1994 and already Schmacher, Hill and Hakkinen have been removed.

Anyone want to place bets on Kubica being 2008 champion? :mrgreen:
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1995
Johnny Herbert 92 (6 wins, 3 2nd, 3 3rd)
David Coulthard 86 (8 wins, 1 2nd)
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 48 (5 2nd, 3 3rd)
Olivier Panis 41 (1 win, 5 3rd)
Mark Blundell 33 (2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Rubens Barrichello 28 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Eddie Irvine 27 (3 2nd)
Martin Brundle 22 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Mika Salo 16 (1 3rd)
Gianni Morbidelli 10 (1 2nd)
Jean-Christophe Boullion 8 (1 3rd)
Aguri Suzuki 7 (2 4th)
Ukyo Katayama 5 (1 4th)
Pierluigi Martini 4 (1 4th)
Pedro Lamy 3 (1 5th)
Andrea Montermini 3 (1 5th)
Pedro Diniz 3 (3 6th)
Domenico Schiattarella 2 (1 5th)
Luca Badoer 2 (2 6th)
Massimiliano Papis 1 (1 6th)
Jan Magnussen 1 (1 6th)

Coulthard's Adelaide blunder was the final nail in his championship hunt. Pacific and Forti score three points each and SImtek two. Along with that, Luca Badoer unrejectifies himself!
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I just had a scary thought in my head.
Would have Luca Badoer won the 1999 European Grand Prix under this system had he not suffered a gearbox failure? (He was running 4th at the time before the gearbox called it quits in real life)
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I think it would have been Jarno Trulli, but we shall wait and see...
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My predictions for later championships
1996. Jacques Villeneuve
1997. Heinz-Harald Frentzen
1998. David Coulthard
1999. Eddie Irvine
2000. Rubens Barrichello
2001. Ralf Schumacher
2002. Juan Pablo Montoya
2003. Kimi Raikkonen
2004. Jenson Button
2005. Fernando Alonso
2006. Felipe Massa
2007. Lewis Hamilton
2008. Robert Kubica
2009. Sebastian Vettel
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Bleu wrote:1995
Coulthard's Adelaide blunder was the final nail in his championship hunt. Pacific and Forti score three points each and SImtek two. Along with that, Luca Badoer unrejectifies himself!

I wonder if, under this system, Simtek might have survived the season and therefore scored more than Pacific and Forti? Because I always believed that Simtek was genuinely better than Pacific, and Pacific better than Forti.
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