Grand Prix Rejects

Simtek wrote:While voting is still underway for the automated F3 Americas championship, I'm putting together a shortlist of teams and drivers that might participate in the series. The list of teams can be found here. If anyone has a team they would like to see in the series they are more than welcome to submit one here. The same goes for drivers.

Be warned though, only thirteen teams will participate in the championship.

DemocalypseNow wrote:

Simtek wrote:While voting is still underway for the automated F3 Americas championship, I'm putting together a shortlist of teams and drivers that might participate in the series. The list of teams can be found here. If anyone has a team they would like to see in the series they are more than welcome to submit one here. The same goes for drivers.

Be warned though, only thirteen teams will participate in the championship.

This brings a good question about these automated championships. Do team owners get any input as to decisions & lineups? I don't like the idea of any team of mine having decisions dictated externally.

Simtek wrote:While voting is still underway for the automated F3 Americas championship, I'm putting together a shortlist of teams and drivers that might participate in the series. The list of teams can be found here. If anyone has a team they would like to see in the series they are more than welcome to submit one here. The same goes for drivers.

Be warned though, only thirteen teams will participate in the championship.

DemocalypseNow wrote:In terms of your particular series, I would like to understand then the viability of a pair of one car teams. I imagine you're running this in GP2, correct? Tropico Academy can really only sustain one driver at a time (for 2019 I'd probably pick Loyola out of Free Agency, and for 2020 promote Santillan from SAF4), and use the other slot for a team like Christopherson Racing [Imani Burrell] or Moreno Motorsport [random real-life canuck]. Thoughts?

Dexter249 wrote:I'm thinking of running a successor to the Life GP Series, From 1994-1997, Like using the Pacific PR001(94-95) and PR002 (96-97), If this isn't a good idea I would be keen to run a F4 Series, or an F4 level-series not Sanctioned by the FIA, Maybe the Australian F4 Challenge (a support series to V8 Supercars), Another Idea (If i ever get rFactor or GTR2 or anything better than emulating GP2) is running V8 Supercars itself, With some Support Series, I don't exactly know what I would do, If anyone has any simulator Ideas for any other series I may run (On Steam if possible), It would be kindly appreciated.

CaptainGetz12 wrote:

Dexter249 wrote:I'm thinking of running a successor to the Life GP Series, From 1994-1997, Like using the Pacific PR001(94-95) and PR002 (96-97), If this isn't a good idea I would be keen to run a F4 Series, or an F4 level-series not Sanctioned by the FIA, Maybe the Australian F4 Challenge (a support series to V8 Supercars), Another Idea (If i ever get rFactor or GTR2 or anything better than emulating GP2) is running V8 Supercars itself, With some Support Series, I don't exactly know what I would do, If anyone has any simulator Ideas for any other series I may run (On Steam if possible), It would be kindly appreciated.

If you want to get some experience, starting with F4 Australia is a good place to start. Those always get approved easily from what I've seen

For the throwback series you may want to look through the old Life GP and Rejects-1 threads in the "Flat Out Flat Broke" subforum (someone did continue the tradition, but they have since left the forum. You can also ask Nuppiz for help with such a series, though it runs on F1 Challenge, not rFactor).

This Could Be You wrote:a Life-powered series

This Could Be You wrote:but my rFactor install is hopelessly unreliable

Dexter249 wrote:Thinking of running a F4 Series in Europe, Germany,France,Spain,Belgium,Portugal. pretty much most of western Europe Minus Italy, All I'm gonna need is some carshapes, so I present you

FIA European Formula 4 Championship

Cars : One-make of course, Preferably the Tatuus FA010 or the Mygale-Ford, If those are unavailable, I might just use the Dome F4 from Asia.

Drivers : Same rules apply as all F4 series.

Field of cars : Max 26 Cars, using GP2 for this, 1-2 entrants per team.

Race Weekend : Run similarly to Anglo-Irish F4 and North American F4, with no heats and just two races.

Points System : Same as always.

Race Calendar

1. Hockenheim April 13-14
2. Le Mans Bugatti Circuit April 27-28
3. Paul Ricard (90's Layout because GP2.de) May 18-19
4. Zolder June 1-2
5. Jerez June 29-30
6. Estoril July 13-14
7. Zandvoort August 19-20
8. Monaco (ARWS Support) September 7-8


There you have it.

Dexter249 wrote:All I'm gonna need is some carshapes, so I present you

This Could Be You wrote:

Dexter249 wrote:Thinking of running a F4 Series in Europe, Germany,France,Spain,Belgium,Portugal. pretty much most of western Europe Minus Italy, All I'm gonna need is some carshapes, so I present you

FIA European Formula 4 Championship

Cars : One-make of course, Preferably the Tatuus FA010 or the Mygale-Ford, If those are unavailable, I might just use the Dome F4 from Asia.

Drivers : Same rules apply as all F4 series.

Field of cars : Max 26 Cars, using GP2 for this, 1-2 entrants per team.

Race Weekend : Run similarly to Anglo-Irish F4 and North American F4, with no heats and just two races.

Points System : Same as always.

Race Calendar

1. Hockenheim April 13-14
2. Le Mans Bugatti Circuit April 27-28
3. Paul Ricard (90's Layout because GP2.de) May 18-19
4. Zolder June 1-2
5. Jerez June 29-30
6. Estoril July 13-14
7. Zandvoort August 19-20
8. Monaco (ARWS Support) September 7-8


There you have it.

Isn't Europe already quite well covered by the Anglo-Irish and Italian Series? I feel that either a Tasman/Oceania, or maybe a Russian or Indian F4 might make more sense in so much as it would expand the driver talent pool a bit (though arguably with the amount of F4 series we have already and a lack of third-tier series, this may not be a good thing...)

Also, if you were running a series, feel free to call my F4 carshape something other than Dome, as it would be more realistic (the carshape is A-I F4 for example, while identical, is called a "Mygale")

Simtek wrote:Dexter, it's great to see that you're willing to run a series, but at present our big concern is that there are too many F4 championships as is and not enough places for F4 drivers to go beyond that. Right now what we're doing is looking at restructuring the third tier to accommodate this level of growth, including splitting F3 Eurasia and adding a third tier series for the Indy ladder (the latter yet to be greenlit by the council).

If you want to start running a canon series, the 18MDMF is the better place to start at present. There you can bypass the entry-level series for new managers rule that's resulted in the F4 overpopulation we're dealing with right now. You also won't have to worry too much about the impact of any errors you might make, as every 18MDMF series is completely self-contained.

And yeah, the Mygale's literally just the Dome. Before that it was an old FPA car.

thor97 wrote:Anyone open to reopening the rivalry between cart and indycar with a canon cart series.

I have some plans and would be open to running it if i could get a green light?

thor97 wrote:Anyone open to reopening the rivalry between cart and indycar with a canon cart series.

I have some plans and would be open to running it if i could get a green light?

Ataxia wrote:

thor97 wrote:Anyone open to reopening the rivalry between cart and indycar with a canon cart series.

I have some plans and would be open to running it if i could get a green light?

Considering that canon Indycar a) has only just got going and b) follows the storyline of "it was on hiatus for two years after a similar split with F1RICS", I don't think this would be entirely wise.

It's not up to me, but I don't support this at all I'm afraid.

HawkAussie wrote:So as I have downloaded GP2 today and the thinking would be of going with a GP2 series which hopefully will be canon from the non-canon status that I am thinking of. The series will start in 2010 with this calendar.

1. Istanbul Park (8-9 May)
2. Mugello (15-16 May)
3. Monaco (29-30 May)
4. Donington (12-13 June)
5. Athlone (26-27 June)
6. Lausitz (24-25 July)
7. Silverstone (7-8 August)
8. Valencia (28-29 August)
9. Monza (4-5 September)
10. Hungaroring (11-12 September)

If you have a key eye, you would have noticed that most of the rounds support the F1 except for the odd one at Silverstone. Basically, I hope for this series to run to 2017 where it gets renamed to Formula 2 which is canon.

So yeah that is my plan of attack if you want this to be a thing.

Simtek wrote:It's a nice idea, but it's redundant. The whole point of the feeder ladder we have now is that it provides a real-time driver market for series higher up (as well as providing more series for people to sink their teeth into). Having a GP2 series starting almost ten years behind the current era F1 when that whole period's been covered just doesn't make sense, I'm afraid.

Also, canon Formula 2 is a successor to F2RWRS, not GP2, and started in 2018, seeing as none of us actually foresaw the circumstances leading to real-life F2. The status of GP2 in canon's always been a bit up in the air, but sort of treated as something that's been going on in the background, and canon F1 already received graduates from there even if it was a background series (Kobayashi, Pérez, Valsecchi etc.).

HawkAussie wrote:I understand where you come on this but then the question is how did GP2 die because as we know it started in 2005 in OTL and if it was the same in this TL then maybe it is like Auto GP as it slowly dies out and it gets removed or something like that in terms of canon. But maybe a quick simulation with barely any input from other users can possibly get an defind result which might go in canon.

HawkAussie wrote:A couple more ideas that I was looking at through Wikipedia was maybe the Tasman Series which ran between 1964-1975 or the European Formula Two which began in 1967. Not only this might be uncharted territory in terms of canon (of course run first season as non-canon) but possibly a new series which I can use GP2 in. There was also the 1923 Grand Prix championship that pi314159 didn't finish but of course with that being over a year old I don't know the numbers that would return.

Ideally, this would be the most practical in order:
1. European Formula Two
2. Tasman Series
3. Grand Prix Championship (finish it)

Simtek wrote:However, I can offer you the keys to F3 Americas or Indy Pro Mazda, which are already run or will be run through GP2. Canon rules probably won't allow you to take them over right away (you may have to go an 18MDMF route as proof of concept or competence or whatever first), but the offer is there, should you be willing and able to take it. Part of the reason I run quicksim series now is to fill a gap in canon while no one else is available to run the series "normally", and I would happily give one away if someone else wants it and is able to run it.

Simtek wrote:My only major problem with this proposal is the two-cars-per-team-at-every-race rule. This isn't Bernie's F1. Indycar racing has a long history of single-car and part-time entries that persists to the present day, and this era is filled with them. I honestly don't think there's a good enough in-universe justification for having it any other way. If you're going to use GP2 for this, I'd suggest "doubling up" teams in GP2edit. You're only going to get so many chassis-engine combinations, so it's unlikely to have any detrimental effect.

Dexter249 wrote:Can JAF GT300 cars be used?

dr-baker wrote:I would be keen to jump on the bandwagon again, but may be a bit of an irregular poster, due to my student nursing placement.

AustralianStig wrote:Is it too early to call dibs on taking control of Audi again?