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Re: Car numbers alternative championship

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2011 German GP

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 6.  Sutil       8 x 14 = 112
 2.  Alonso     18 x  5 = 90
 1.  Hamilton   25 x  3 = 75
 5.  Massa      10 x  6 = 60
 7.  Rosberg     6 x  8 = 48
 9.  Kobayashi   2 x 16 = 32
 3.  Webber     15 x  2 = 30
 8.  Schumacher  4 x  7 = 28
 4.  Vettel     12 x  1 = 12
10.  Petrov      1 x 10 = 10


Sutil seems to be dominating the voting in IIDOTR last time I checked, so how to reflect this infinitely improbable drive? Multiply the points score by their car number and you can see Sutil is a clear winner!

Current Championship standings

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1st.  4.     Alonso       130 x  5 = 650
2nd.  5.     Button       109 x  4 = 436
3rd. 11.     Kobayashi     27 x 16 = 432
4th.  3.     Hamilton     134 x  3 = 402
5th.  6.     Massa         62 x  6 = 372
6th.  7.     Rosberg       46 x  8 = 368
7th. 10.     Petrov        32 x 10 = 320
8th.  8.     Heidfeld      34 x  9 = 306
9th.  2.     Webber       139 x  2 = 278
10th 12.     Sutil         18 x 14 = 252

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11th  9.     Schumacher    32 x  7 = 224
12th  1.     Vettel       216 x  1 = 216
13th 13.     Alguersuari    9 x 19 = 171
14th 15.     Buemi          8 x 18 = 144
15th 14.     Perez          8 x 17 = 136
16th 16.     Barrichello    4 x 11 = 44
17th 17.     di Resta       2 x 15 = 30


This is turning into an Alonso benefit, pulling out an advantage from the others. Hamilton is entering the battle for second, alongside Button and Kobayashi, with Massa and Rosberg not too far behind.
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Re: Car numbers alternative championship

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And back to previous season catch-up...

1955

-The disaster at the 24 Hours of Le Mans on 11 June led to the cancellations of the French, German, Spanish and Swiss Grands Prix.
-Championship points were awarded on an 8-6-4-3-2 basis for the first five places at each race. One point was awarded for fastest race lap at each race. Only the best 5 results counted towards the Championship.

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      Driver          Team        Argentina    Monaco  Indy  Belgium  Dutch  Britain  Italy  Total
1st   M. Trintignant  Ferrari     24 + 13 1/3  352                                           389 1/3
2nd   J.-M. Fangio    Mercedes    18           2             90       64     60       144    376
3rd   S. Moss         Mercedes    8                          84       60     108      16     276   
4th   P. Taruffi      Mercedes                                               150      84     234
5th   E. Castellotti  Lancia                   180                    12              16     208
6th   J. Behra        Maserati                 68            24                       108    200
7th   G. Farina       Ferrari     24 + 13 1/3  126           8                               171 1/3
8th   J. Thomson      Kuzma                            132                                   132
9th   R. Mieres       Maserati    36                         24       64                     124
10th  L. Musso        Maserati                                        72     8               80

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11th= W. Faulkner     Kurtis Kraft                     77                                    77
11th= B. Homeier      Kurtis Kraft                     77                                    77
13th= C. Perdisa      Maserati                 68                                            68
13th= C. Menditeguy   Maserati                                                        68     68
15th  K. Kling        Mercedes    8                                          56              64
16th  J. Davies       Kurtis Kraft                     60                                    60
17th  L. Villoresi    Lancia                   56                                            56
18th  B. Sweikert     Kurtis Kraft                     48                                    48
19th= T. Bettenhausen Kurtis Kraft                     30                                    30
19th= P. Russo        Kurtis Kraft                     30                                    30

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21st  J.-F. Gonzalez  Ferrari     24                                                         24
22nd  P. Frere        Ferrari                                18                              18
23rd  U. Maglioli     Ferrari     13 1/3                                                     13 1/3
24th  H. Hermann      Mercedes    8                                                          8   
25th  B. Vukovich     Kurtis Kraft                     4                                     4

Because of the infamous Le Mans disaster, the penultimate GP of the year was in July, with the conclusion in September. The Argentine GP equals the record of hottest GP (shared with the 1984 Dallas GP and 2005 Bahraini GP, 104 degrees Fahrenheit/40 degrees Centigrade). This led to several shared drives, with both Farina and Tringinant sharing both the 2nd and 3rd placed cars (both cars also had a third driver sharing the driving). The Indianapolis 500 saw the death of Bill Vukovich on lap 56. His fastest lap was not to be beaten during the race, meaning the point for the fastest lap was credited to him posthumously. (Is this the only time in F1/Indy history to have happened?)

Oh yeah, and we have a different championship winner! Despite only scoring in the first two races of the year, this proved sufficient to win the title! Hurrah! What's more, if you look at the 1974-2010 period, only 4 years saw a smaller winning margin, in the years 1997 and 2000-2002. Wonder if there will be any other low scoring years between 1956 and 1973?
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Re: Car numbers alternative championship

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Was just going back, tidying up some tables on the first page of posts and found these comments:

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
tommykl wrote:Should I eventually do this from 1950 to 1995 after I finish the medals (if it gets enough votes, of course)?


There's no point in doing this before 1996 because of the different car numbering system before that point.


Plus, it means Ferrari will pretty much dominate the 80's and 90's unopposed.


tommykl wrote:Maybe, but then, Alboreto and maybe Johansson would be champions. Also, Ligier.


Tommy was certainly right about Alboreto, but sadly wrong about Johansson (although he did get 2nd overall twice, in 1985 when Alboreto/Ferrari won, and in 1986 when Senna/Lotus won. His next best result was 5th in 1989 with Onyx!). And Ligier would only go on to win in 1981 with Laffite.

tommykl wrote: Coincidentally, the German, Italian, French and Monaco GP all used different nubering systems, so it will reward points scorers in these GPs. The goal of this Championship is to get different winners every year, not to be fair. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Gilles Villeneuve would probably in this one!

Sadly, Villeneuve did not get around to winning this. And in the early 1950s, we don't seem to be getting many different winners (although we do in 1955, thanks to a different numbering system in.... Monaco! And 1951 nearly saw an Indy 500 winner win outright...

So there's a bit of closure on posts from November last year...
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1956

Points were given to top 5 finishers (8, 6, 4, 3, 2). 1 point was given for fastest lap. Only the best five scores counted towards the world championship. Points for shared drives were divided equally between the drivers, regardless of who had driven more laps.

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      Driver            Team         Argentina  Monaco  Indy  Belgium  France  GB  Germany  Italy  Total
1st   S. Moss           Maserati                224           102      6       7   42       324    699
2nd   J.-M. Fangio      Ferrari      170        104                    40      8   9        78     401
3rd   P. Collins        Ferrari                 78            64       112     12           78     344
4th   J. Parsons        Kurtis Kraft                    294                                        294
5th   J. Behra          Maserati     24         120                    16      32  24              216
6th   P. Godia          Maserati                                                   60       114    174
7th   D. Rathman        Kurtis Kraft                    146                                        146
8th   L. Musso          Ferrari      136                                                           136
9th   E. Castellotti    Ferrari                 30                     72                          102
10th  O. Gendebien      Ferrari      76                                                            76

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11th  J. Fairman        Connaught                                              63           12     75
12th  C. Perdisa        Maserati                              68       6                           74
13th= P. Flaherty       Watson                          64                                         64
13th= D. Freeland       Phillips                        64                                         64
15th  H. Gould          Maserati                                               62                  62
16th  M. Hawthorn       Maserati     56                                                            56
17th  L. Villoresi      Maserati                              44                                   44
18th  P. Frere          Ferrari                               36                                   36
19th= H. Schell         Vanwall                               30                                   30
19th= L. Rosier         Maserati                                                   30              30

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21st  P. Russo          Kurtis Kraft                    29                                         29
22nd  S. Hanks          Kurtis Kraft                    24                                         24
23rd  R. Flockhart      Connaught                                                           16     16
24th= C. Landi          Maserati     15                                                            15
24th= G. Gerini         Maserati     15                                                            15
26th= H. da Silva Ramos Gordini                 12                                                 12
26th= A. de Portago     Ferrari                                                12                  12


Monaco: Since Fangio received points for second, only Castellotti received the 1.5 points for the shared fourth. (Unlike Argentina of year before, where drivers scored points for both cars in which they raced.) But Fangio's higher-place car also had the larger car number so this was the higher of the two possible scores for the round (Fangio would have scored an extra 30 from the other entry which he shared with Castellotti).

Yay! Stirling Moss beats Juan-Manuel Fangio to the title! And one of the highest number of scorers of the years I've done so far - only 1989 had more scorers, with 29. This happened as so many drivers only scored once all year.
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1957

Championship points were awarded on an 8-6-4-3-2 basis for the first five placings in each race. An additional point was awarded for the fastest race lap. Only the best 5 results counted towards the Championship. In Britain, Trintignant received all 3 points for fourth place as it was determined that Collins did not drive a significant number of laps.

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      Driver          Team               Argentina  Monaco  Indy  France  Britain  Germany  Pescara  Italy  Total
1st   S. Moss         Maserati, Vanwall  4                                100      20       234      144    502
2nd   J.-M. Fangio    Maserati           16         288           16               9        12       12     344
3rd   T. Brooks       Vanwall            120                              80                         22     222
4th   J. Rathmann     Epperly                               182                                             182
5th   L. Musso        Ferrari                                     70      84       18                       172
6th   P. Russo        Kurtis Kraft                          162                                             162
7th   A. Linden       Kurtis Kraft                          146                                             146
8th   W. von Trips    Ferrari                                                                        144    144
9th   M. Hawthorn     Ferrari                                     42      40       48                       130
10th  M. Gregory      Maserati                      8                                       42       78     128

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11th  H. Schell       Maserati           66                       12                        24       8      110
12th  M. Trintignant  Ferrari                       60                    48                                108
13th  S. Lewis-Evans  Connaught                     30                                      60              90
14th  P. Collins      Ferrari                                     48               28                       76
15th= S. Hanks        Epperly                               72                                              72
15th= R. Salvadori    Cooper                                              72                                72
17th  J. Behra        Maserati           36                                                                 36
18th  C. Menditeguy   Maserati           32                                                                 32
19th= A. de Portago   Ferrari            20                                                                 20
19th= J.-F. Gonzalez  Ferrari            20                                                                 20
21st  G. Scarlatti    Maserati                                                                       8      8
22nd  J. Bryan        Kuzma                                 4                                               4


At the half-way point of the season, Moss seemed to have no chance, while Fangio seemed to have a decent score from Monaco to push him ahead of everybody. But with a couple of 100+ scores towards the end of the season, and Fangio failing to get a decent car number again, gives the title to Mr Moss (now Sir Stirling in the 21st century) for the second year in a row.
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1958

Points were awarded on an 8-6-4-3-2 basis to the first five finishers at each race. An additional point was awarded to the driver setting the fastest race lap. The best six results from the eleven races were retained.

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     Driver          Team          Argentina  Monaco  Dutch  Indy  Belgium  France  GB   Germany  Portugal  Italy  Morrocco  Total
1st  G. Amick        Epperly                                 594                                                             594
2nd  M. Hawthorn     Ferrari       80         38      10           112      36      14            168       84     36        518
3rd  S. Moss         Cooper*       112                9                     48           7        18               252       446
4th  T. Brooks       Vanwall                                       32                    64                 224              320
5th  L. Musso        Ferrari       96         204                                                                            300
6th  P. Collins      Ferrari                  144                           84      8                                        236
7th  M. Trintignant  Cooper                   160                                        44                                  204
8th  H. Schell       BRM                      16      90           20               40                             32        198
9th  R. Salvadori    Cooper                           21                            40   60                 12               133
10th T. Bettenhausen Epperly                                 132                                                             132

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11th C. Allison      Lotus                                         120                   0 (12)                              120
12th J.-M. Fangio    Maserati      8                                        102                                              110
13th P. Hill         Ferrari                                                                                90     16        106
14th J. Behra        Maserati      8                  56                                          24                         88
15th W. von Trips    Ferrari                                                24           12       44                         80
16th S. Lewis-Evans  Vanwall                                       24               27            24                         75
17th J. Bonnier      BRM                                                                                           54        54
18th J. Brabham      Cooper                   48                                                                             48
19th J. Boyd         Kurtis Kraft                            36                                                              36
20th J. Bryan        Epperly                                 8                                                               8
21st J. Rathman      Epperly                                 4                                                               4


*: Moss also drove a Vanwall for much of the season.

Germany: Despite being the fifth-placed Formula One car, Allison scored no points because he finished tenth on the road behind five Formula Two cars.

Italy: No points awarded for shared drive - Maston Gregory and Carroll Shelby shared a Maserati and either would have scored 96 points had they not shared and driven solo.

A truly shock result! And George Amick did not even win the Indianapolis 500 but come second - with car number 99, and that was enough in the antepenultimate year that this could have been possible. Yet three of the five Indy points-scorers occupy 19th, 20th and 21st with car numbers 9, 1 and 2 respectively. And Hawthorn is the only driver who had to drop scores, yet even if they had been added, this still would not have been enough to overhaul Amick.
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1959

Points were awarded on an 8-6-4-3-2 basis to the first five finishers at each race. Only the best five results from the nine races were retained.

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     Driver            Team      Monaco  Indy  Dutch  France  GB  Germany  Portugal  Italy  USA  Total
1st  P. Hill           Ferrari   144                  156         20                 224         544
2nd  T. Brooks         Ferrari   300                  192         36                        8    536
3rd  J. Brabham        Cooper    216           48     32      96                     48     24   440
4th  M. Trintignant    Cooper    128                          36  24       15               42   245
5th  B. McLaren        Cooper    44                   24      72                            72   212
6th  D. Gurney         Ferrari                                    36       64        108         208
7th  S. Moss           Cooper                  11     2       39           36        112         200
8th  P. Goldsmith      Epperly           198                                                     198
9th  J. Rathmann       Watson            96                                                      96
10th J. Bonnier        BRM                     56                 18                             74

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11th C. Allison        Ferrari                                                       68          68
12th O. Gendebien      Ferrari                        66                                         66
13th I. Ireland        Lotus                   36                                           20   56
14th M. Gregory        Cooper                  36                          12                    48
15th R. Ward           Watson            40                                                      40
16th H. Schell         BRM                                    24           12                    36
17th J. Thomson        Lesovsky          15                                                      15
18th T. Bettenhausen   Epperly           3                                                       3
19th J. Behra          Ferrari                 2                                                 2

France: Stirling Moss was disqualified from the French Grand Prix (for receiving outside assistance), yet was allowed to keep the point for fastest lap.

Before adding up the final totals, I honestly thought that Tony Brooks was going to win this, mostly due to his 300 points from the Monaco GP. But Phil Hill's consistant high scores allowed him to take this title. And Jack Brabham's dropped score doesn't really make any difference.
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1960

The points-scoring system was changed with the point for fastest lap being dropped and a point given for sixth place. The best six scores counted towards the championship, increased from five from the previous season. Thus, points were awarded on an 8-6-4-3-2-1 basis at each round, with only the best six round results retained.

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      Driver        Team      Argentina  Monaco  Indy  Dutch  Belgium  France  GB  Portugal  Italy  USA  Total
1st   O. Gendebien  Cooper                                    136      264                               400
2nd   P. Goldsmith  Epperly                      396                                                     396
3rd   P. Hill       Ferrari              144                  72                             160    9    385
4th   B. McLaren    Cooper    128        60                   24       72      6   24               12   320
5th   S. Moss       Lotus                224           21                                           40   285
6th   J. Brabham    Cooper                             88     16       128     8   16               6    262
7th   W. von Trips  Ferrari   60                       4                       11  84        44          203
8th   I. Ireland    Lotus     20                       24                      28  16               60   148
9th   R. Ginther    Ferrari              34            3                                     108         145
10th  C. Allison    Ferrari   144                                                                        144

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11th  J. Clark      Lotus                                     36       48          56                    140
12th  H. Taylor     Cooper                                             138                               138
13th  T. Brooks     Cooper               54                                    24  12                    90
14th= G. Hill       BRM                                64                                                64
14th= W. Mairesse   Ferrari                                                                  64          64
16th  J. Surtees    Lotus                                                      54                        54
17th  J. Bonnier    BRM                  4                                                          30   34
18th= J. Rathmann   Watson                       32                                                      32
18th= L. Bianchi    Cooper                                    32                                         32
20th  H. Herrman    Porsche                                                                  26          26

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21st= E. Johnson    Trevis                       22                                                      22
21st= R. Flockhart  Lotus                                              22                                22
23rd  D. Branson    Phillips                     21                                                      21
24th  C. Menditeguy Cooper    18                                                                         18
25th= R. Ward       Watson                       6                                                       6
25th= J. Thomson    Lesovsky                     6                                                       6
25th= G. Cabianca   Cooper                                                                   6           6

Argentina: Trintignant and Moss received no points for the shared drive to 3rd place. This could have been worth 152 points to either driver.

Belgium: Under modern rules, Graham Hill would have been classified 3rd, since he completed lap 35 before Gendebien. Hill then retired, in the pits, but was not classified since he did not push his car over the line after the winner took the finish (as required by the rules of the time). Hill would have scored 40 points, while Gendebien would then have scored 102 points, Phil Hill 24 points, and Clark 18 points. Bianchi would have been seventh and thus not scored.

In the final year when the Indianapolis 500 counted towards the championship, one of their number finished third with car number 99, missing out on the title by just 4 points... And Phil Hill is not far off winning this overall either. I have never heard of Giulio Cabianca before.
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1961

Points were awarded on an 8-6-4-3-2-1 basis to the first six finishers at each race. Only the best 5 results counted towards the Championship.

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     Driver       Team     Monaco  Dutch  Belgium  France  GB  Germany  Italy  USA  Total
1st  G. Baghetti  Ferrari                          450                              450
2nd  D. Gurney    Porsche  8              20       72                   276    72   448
3rd  S. Moss      Lotus    180     42                          63                   285
4th  R. Ginther   Ferrari  216     4      24               24                       268
5th  P. Hill      Ferrari  152     6      36               12  16       18          234
6th  W. von Trips Ferrari  120     27     12               36  18                   213
7th  J. Lewis     Cooper                                                180         180
8th  I. Ireland   Lotus                            18                          135  153
9th  J. Clark     Lotus            60              32          42                   134
10th B. McLaren   Cooper   26                      8           2        48     6    90

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11th J. Surtees   Cooper                  48                   36                   84
12th R. Salvadori Cooper                                   36           40          76
13th T. Brooks    BRM                                                   52     20   72
14th J. Brabham   Cooper           10                      36                       46
15th G. Hill      BRM                              22                          8    30
16th J. Bonnier   Porsche                                  16                  11   27
17th O. Gendebien Ferrari                 24                                        24


Giancarlo Baghetti wins on his debut in France, but doesn't score again all year. Yet his car number of 50 is great enough to win the title by just two points from Dan Gurney in the Porsche, who score is greatly boosted by his result in Italy. I thought Ginther and Phil Hill would do better, after their results in the first race of the year, but it was not to be.
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1962

Points were awarded on a 9-6-4-3-2-1 basis to the first six finishers in each race with the best five race results retained by each driver.

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      Driver           Team      Dutch  Monaco  Belgium  France  GB  Germany  Italy  USA  S. Africa  Total   
1st   B. McLaren       Cooper           126              66      64  18       112    84   48         452
2nd   G. Hill          BRM       153    10      6                36  99       126    24   27         441
3rd   J. Clark         Lotus                    144              180 15              72              411   
4th   J. Surtees       Lola             84      10       36      144 84                              358   
5th   D. Gurney        Porsche                           270         28              20              318   
6th   P. Hill          Ferrari   4      216     36                                                   256   
7th   T. Maggs         Cooper    14                      144     18                       36         212   
8th   J. Brabham       Lotus                    15               60                  51   30         156   
9th   L. Bandini       Ferrari          152                                                          152   
10th  R. Ginther       BRM                               40                   72                     112   

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11th  C.G. de Beaufort Porsche   14                      38                                          52   
12th  R. Rodriguez     Ferrari                  36                   3                               39   
13th  T. Taylor        Lotus     30                                                                  30   
14th  W. Mairesse      Ferrari                                                24                     24   
15th= J. Bonnier       Porsche          4                                     18                     22   
15th= I. Ireland       Lotus                                                              22         22   
17th  N. Lederle       Lotus                                                              20         20   
18th  M. Gregory       Lotus-BRM                                                     16              16   
19th  G. Baghetti      Ferrari   6                                            4                      10


A terrible year for 1961's reigning champion. And I never realised that Trevor Taylor had scored a podium before (2nd in the first race of the year) but that was his only points finish of the year. Graham Hill and Bruce McLaren were the only two to have to drop scores, but even if they had all been taken into account, it would not have changed anything.
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1963

Points were awarded on a 9-6-4-3-2-1 basis at each round with only the best six round results retained.

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     Driver           Team     Monaco  Belgium  Dutch  France  GB  Germany  Italy  USA  Mexico  S. Africa  Total
1st  J. Clark         Lotus            9        54     162     36  18       72     32   72      9          428
2nd  D. Gurney        Brabham          72       108    16                               6       54         256
3rd  B. McLaren       Cooper   28      84                                   72                  30         214
4th  J. Surtees       Ferrari  63               8              60  63                                      194
5th  I. Ireland       BRM                       90                          96                             186
6th  R. Ginther       BRM      30      24       28             6   8        60     12   8                  162
7th  T. Maggs         Cooper   16                      72                   20                             108
8th  J. Brabham       Brabham                          18                   44     15   30                 107
9th  G. Hill          BRM      54                              4                   9    3       20         90
10th G. Mitter        Porsche                                      78                                      78

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11th J. Bonnier       Cooper           24                          16                   22      12         74
12th L. Bandini       BRM                                      6                   48           8          62
13th J. Hall          Lotus-BRM                                12  40                                      52
14th C.G. de Beaufort Porsche          29                                          12                      41
15th J. Siffert       Lotus-BRM                        36                                                  36
16th T. Taylor        Lotus    10                                                                          10
17th L. Scarfiotti    Ferrari                   4                                                          4

France: Graham Hill was push started, incurring a one minute penalty from the organisers, and was awarded no championship points for his third place.

Inevitable, considering Clark's win rate, although it didn't work so well for Richie Ginther, the only other driver to have to drop scores (although this only costs him 14 points and no positions). And Graham Hill really loses out here, falling from 2nd (equal origianally with Ginther) to 9th.
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1964

Championship points were awarded on a 9-6-4-3-2-1 basis for the first six positions in each race. Only the best 6 results counted toward the championship.

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      Driver         Team       Monaco  Dutch  Belgium  France  GB  Germany  Austria  Italy  USA  Mexico  Total
1st   J. Clark       Lotus      36      162    207              9                                 2       416
2nd   B. McLaren     Cooper                    120      12                            156                 288
3rd   D. Gurney      Brabham                   15       198                                       54      267
4th   J. Surtees     Ferrari            12                      28  63                18     42   42      205
5th   G. Hill        BRM        72      18     2        48      18  18                       27           201
6th   L. Bandini     Ferrari                                    16  32       72       16          32      168
7th   R. Ginther     BRM        42             6        20                   24       60     12           164
8th   J. Brabham     Brabham                   56       80      15                                        151
9th   J. Siffert     Brabham-BRM                                    57                       88           145
10th  P. Arundell    Lotus      44      80              12                                                136

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11th  B. Anderson    Brabham            34                                   88                           122
12th  I. Ireland     BRP-BRM                                                 28       92                  120
13th  T. Maggs       BRM                                            26       57                           83
14th  J. Bonnier     Cooper*    38                                           11                           49
15th  M. Trintignant BRM                                            44                                    44
16th  W. Hansgen     Lotus                                                                   34           34
17th  C. Amon        Lotus-BRM          20                                                                20
18th  M. Hailwood    Lotus-BRM  18                                                                        18
19th= P. Rodriguez   Ferrari                                                                      18      18
19th= M. Spence      Lotus                                                            10          6       16
21st  T. Taylor      BRP-BRM                                                                 12           12
22nd  P. Hill        Cooper                                     10                                        10
*: Also scored points in a Brabham

Jim Clark deprives Surtees of his title this year. Wonder if Surtees regains one here? With the way this is going, I'm going to doubt it.
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I have been away on my hols to Dumfries, Cumbria and now currently on Isle of Man so have only just got round to doing this.

Hungarian Grand Prix 2011

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 1.  Button     25 x  4 = 100
 7.  Di Resta    6 x 15 =  90
 3.  Alonso     15 x  5 =  75
 8.  Buemi       4 x 18 =  72
 6.  Massa       8 x  6 =  48
 4.  Hamilton   12 x  3 =  36
 5.  Webber     10 x  2 =  20
10  Alguersuari  1 x 19 =  19
 2.  Vettel     18 x  1 =  18
 9.  Rosberg     2 x  8 =  16


Button is a clear winner here, with di Resta making it a British 1-2. Alonso gains another big haul of points while Vettel is consistantly scoring 'small' points.

Current Championship Positions

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 4.  Alonso       145 x  5 = 725
 5.  Button       134 x  4 = 536
 3.  Hamilton     146 x  3 = 438
11  Kobayashi     27 x 16 = 432
 6.  Massa         70 x  6 = 420
 7.  Rosberg       48 x  8 = 384
10  Petrov        32 x 10 = 320
 8.  Heidfeld      34 x  9 = 306
 2.  Webber       149 x  2 = 298
12  Sutil         18 x 14 = 252

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 1.  Vettel       234 x  1 = 234
 9.  Schumacher    32 x  7 = 224
13  Buemi         12 x 18 = 216
14  Alguersuari   10 x 19 = 190
16  Perez          8 x 17 = 136
15  Di Resta       8 x 15 = 120
17  Barrichello    4 x 11 =  44


From 13th downwards sees only Perez and di Resta swap positions; Alonso is dominant at the top; Button has pulled away from Kobayashi; Hamilton has demoted Kobayashi a place and Massa will do so as well next time out likely as not - from now until the end of the season, may I only post individual race results and only do a "big reveal" of the championship positions post-Brazil?
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OK, I am now home from my holiday to Dumfries (for a weekend), Cumbria (Monday to Friday), Isle Of Man (a week) then Thruxton (for Mini and Truck racing) - about 1500 miles/2400 km of driving. So hopefully, I can try to finish this by the end of the week. :?

1965

Points towards the 1965 World Championship of Drivers were awarded on a 9-6-4-3-2-1 basis to the top six finishers at each round. Only the best six round results could be retained.

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     Driver       Team    S. Africa  Monaco  Belgium  France  UK  Dutch  Germany  Italy  USA  Mexico  Total
1st  J. Stewart   BRM     4          16      48       72      8   72              288                 504
2nd  J. Clark     Lotus   45                 153      54      45  54     9                            360
3rd  G. Hill      BRM     12         27      14       20      18  30     54       180    27           338
4th  D. Gurney    Brabham                                     7   64     20       48     48   48      235
5th  R. Ginther   Honda                      10                   22                          99      131
6th  L. Bandini   Ferrari            102                                 8        12     6            128
7th  J. Siffert   Brabham            14               36                                      48      98
8th  B. McLaren   Cooper  18         14      16                                   32                  80
9th  J. Brabham   Brabham                    42                          8               28           78
10th D. Hulme     Brabham                             48          28                                  76

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11th J. Surtees   Ferrari 6          54               8       4                                       72
12th R. Attwood   Lotus                                                           40          21      61
13th M. Spence    Lotus   18                                  18                              24      60
14th J. Rindt     Cooper                                                 36               10          46
15th P. Rodriguez Ferrari                                                                 28          28
16th R. Bucknum   Honda                                                                       24      24


This was Jackie Stewart's debut season. And despite all of Jim Clark's many on-the-track wins, Jackie was able to capitalise on his one good car-number result and this helps him to win the championship by a good margin over his fellow countryman/men (Scottish/British). And Ginther gains two places only, despite a reasonable car number when winning for Honda. This also happens to be the largest points total since 1959.
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1966

Points towards the 1966 World Championship of Drivers were awarded on a 9-6-4-3-2-1 basis for the first six places at each race. Only the best five race results could be retained by each driver.

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      Driver        Team      Monaco  Belgium  France  UK  Dutch  Germany  Italy  USA  Mexico  Total
1st   J. Brabham    Brabham           9        108     45  144    27                   30      354
2nd   J. Rindt      Cooper            114      18      22         32       48     48           264
3rd   J. Surtees    Ferrari*          54                          42              28   63      187
4th   D. Hulme      Brabham                    56      36                  48          24      164
5th   J. Stewart    BRM      108                           42     12                           162
6th   M. Parkes     Ferrari                    132                         24                  156
7th   M. Spence     Lotus                                  64              84                  148
8th   G. Hill       BRM      44                        12  72     15                           143
9th   L. Bandini    Ferrari  96       28                   2      9                            135
10th  D. Gurney     Eagle                      52                                      30      82

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11th  R. Ginther    Cooper            36                                               36      72
12th= B. Bondurant  BRM      57                                                                57
12th= J. Siffert    Cooper                                                        57           57
14th  L. Scarfiotti Ferrari                                                54                  54
15th  B. McLaren    McLaren                            14                         34           48
16th  J. Taylor     Brabham                    44                                              44
17th  B. Anderson   Brabham                                                40                  40
18th  J. Clark      Lotus                              3   24                     9            36
19th  J. Bonnier    Cooper                                                             22      22
20th  P. Arundell   Lotus                                                         2            2

*Surtees also scored points in a Cooper.

Brabham retains the title he scores in real life. Not many people scoring in many races, so not much to report. I have never heard of Bobs Bondurant or Anderson before though. And Arundell's 2 points in a single season is the smallest so far, equal with Behra in 1959, Schekter in 1980 and Satoru Nakajima in 1988. Behra also scored 2 3/7 points in 1954. Lella Lombardi managed quite a relatively remarkable 5 points in 1975 in comparison. (Although it could be argued that Damon Hill went on to break this record in 1993 and 1994 by scoring 0 points, having actually scored with car 0...).
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1967

Championship points were awarded on a 9-6-4-3-2-1 basis to the first six finishers in each round. Only the best five results from the first six races and the best four results from the last five races could be retained by each driver.

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      Driver        Team      S. Africa  Monaco  Dutch  Belgium  France  UK  Germany  Canada  Italy  USA  Mexico  Total
1st   D. Gurney     Eagle                               324                           40                          364
2nd   J. Clark      Lotus                        45     21               45                   80     45   45      281
3rd   J. Surtees    Honda     44                                         7   21               126         9       207
4th=  D. Hulme      Brabham   6          81      8               24      12  18       12             8    8       177
4th=  C. Amon       Ferrari              80      9      4                32  32       20                          177
4th=  J. Rindt      Cooper                              87                                    90                  177
7th   J. Brabham    Brabham   1                  6               27      3   6        9       96     2    6       154
8th   M. Spence     BRM                  5              24                            32      72          16      149
9th   G. Hill       Lotus                84                                           12             36           132
10th  J. Stewart    BRM                                 84       40                                               124

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11th  P. Rodriguez  Cooper    36         22                      14      24                               21      117
12th  J. Love       Cooper    102                                                                                 102
13th  J. Stiffert   Cooper                                       54                                  45           99
14th= B. McLaren    McLaren              48                                                                       48
14th= J. Bonnier    Cooper                                                   32                      16           48
16th  J. Ickx       Cooper                                                                    32                  32
17th  C. Irwin      BRM                                          30                                               30
18th  B. Anderson   Brabham   28                                                                                  28
19th  L. Scarfiotti Ferrari                      22                                                               22
20th  G. Ligier     Brabham                                                  15                                   15
21st  M. Parkes     Ferrari                      8                                                                8

I am sorry to have deprived Denny Hulme of his championship here but happy to award it to Dan Gurney-flap in his Eagle. And I have bumped John Love DOWN a position in this. :cry: :oops: :cry: :oops: :cry: :oops: :cry: That wasn't supposed to happen - this championship was supposed to promote results like that! Maybe if they had used something like the current numbering system?!
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1968

Championship points were awarded on a 9-6-4-3-2-1 basis to the top six placegetters in each race. Only the best five results from the first six races and the best five results from the remaining six races were counted towards a driver's total.

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      Driver          Team      S.Africa  Spain  Monaco  Belgium  Dutch  France  UK  Germany  Italy  Canada  USA  Mexico  Total
1st   J. Ickx         Ferrari                            92       30     234     24  27       32                          439
2nd   J. Stewart      Matra                              21       72     112     14  54              14      135          422
3rd   G. Hill         Lotus     30        90     81                                  18              9       60   90      378
4th   J. Siffert      Lotus                                                      198                         32   16      246
5th   P. Rodriguez    BRM                                66       60                 10              64           24      224
6th   J.-P. Beltoise  Matra     21        12                      102                         12                          147
7th   V. Elford       Cooper                                             90                          42                   132
8th   J. Surtees      Honda                                              96      14                          20           130
9th   P. Courage      BRM                                                36                   81                          117
10th  R. Attwood      BRM                        90                                                                       90

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11th  B. McLaren      McLaren                            45                                          12      2    12      71
12th  D. Hulme        McLaren   2         6      24                      16      3            9      9                    69
13th= C. Amon         Ferrari   24                                9              30                                       63
13th= L. Scarfiotti   Cooper              45     18                                                                       63
15th  B. Redman       Cooper              56                                                                              56
16th  J. Oliver       Lotus                              4                                                        44      48
17th  S. Moser        Brabham                                     44                                                      44
18th  L. Bianchi      Cooper                     28      15                                                               43
19th  D. Gurney       McLaren                                                                                42           42
20th  J. Bonnier      McLaren                                                                 3                   34      37

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21st  J. Clark        Lotus     36                                                                                        36
22nd  J. Rindt        Brabham   12                                                   20                                   32
23rd  J. Servoz-Gavin Matra                                                                   30                          30
24th  J. Brabham      Brabham                                                        8                                    8


And the second-most successful Le Mans driver wins this title.
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Re: Car numbers alternative championship

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1969

Points were awarded on a 9-6-4-3-2-1 basis to the first six finishers at each round. The best five results from the first six rounds and the best four results from the last five rounds were retained.

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      Driver          Team     S.Africa  Spain  Monaco  Dutch  France  UK  Germany  Italy  Canada  USA  Mexico  Total
1st   J. Stewart      Matra    63        63             36     18      27  42       180                 9       438
2nd   J. Ickx         Brabham            4              24     44      42  54              99           42      309
3rd   P. Courage      Brabham                   96                     32           64             108          300
4th   J.-P. Beltoise  Matra    8         32                    42          8        88     54           8       240
5th   B. McLaren      McLaren  12        36     8              15      24  40       54     8                    197
6th   J. Brabham      Brabham                           11                                 72      24   32      139
7th   J. Siffert      Lotus    12               36      60                 22                                   130
8th   D. Hulme        McLaren  20        15     3       21                                              45      104
9th   J. Surtees      BRM                28                                                        56           84
10th  J. Rindt        Lotus                                            6            24     8       18           56

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11th  V. Elford       McLaren                                  20      19                                       39
12th  P. Rodriguez    Ferrari                                                       10             24           34
13th  C. Amon         Ferrari                           32                                                      32
14th  G. Hill         Lotus    12               9              2           3                                    26
15th= J. Servoz-Gavin Matra                                                                19                   19
15th= S. Moser        Brabham                                                                      19           19
17th  J. Oliver       BRM                                                                               15      15
18th  R. Attwood      Lotus                     6                                                               6


The regular world champion wins this alternative title, in large part to just more consistant point-scoring.



And only another 4 years to go! Phew...
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Re: Car numbers alternative championship

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1970

Points were awarded on a 9-6-4-3-2-1 basis to the first six finishers at each round. The best six results from the first seven rounds and the best five results from the last six rounds were retained.

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      Driver          Team      S.Africa  Spain  Monaco  Belgium  Dutch  France  UK  Germany  Austria  Italy  Canada  USA  Mexico  Total
1st   J. Ickx         Ferrari                                     100                60       108             162     9    27      466
2nd   C. Regazzoni    Ferrari                                     78             12           162      36     114          24      426
3rd   J.-P. Beltoise  Matra     9                        100      46                          19       160                 12      346
4th   J. Brabham      Brabham   108              30                      92      102                                               332
5th   C. Amon         March                              60              84      32                           80      24   36      316
6th   D. Hulme        McLaren   36               33                      57      36  16                90                  32      270
7th   E. Fittipaldi   Lotus                                                          51                               216          267
8th   P. Rodriguez    BRM                        17      9                                    51              42      114  19      252
9th   R. Stommelen    Brabham                            38                          42       44       92                          216
10th  J. Rindt        Lotus                      27               90     54          18                                            189

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11th  J. Stewart      March     4         9                       30                                   108                         151
12th  H. Pescarolo    Matra                      36      26              40          14                                            116
13th  R. Wisell       Lotus                                                                                           92           92
14th  I. Giunti       Ferrari                            84                                                                        84
15th  M. Andretti     March               72                                                                                       72
16th  B. McLaren      McLaren             66                                                                                       66
17th  G. Hill         Lotus     11        18     2                               14                                                45
18th= J. Servoz-Gavin March               32                                                                                       32
18th= D. Gurney       McLaren                                            32                                                        32
18th= J. Oliver       BRM                                                                     32                                   32

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21st  J. Surtees      McLaren                                     16                                          8                    24
22nd= J. Miles        Lotus     20                                                                                                 20
22nd= F. Cevert       March                                                                            20                          20
24th  D. Bell         Surtees                                                                                         18           18
25th  P. Gethin       McLaren                                                                                 6                    6


Jochen Rindt had bad luck with his allocation of car numbers, with only 4 drivers after him scoring more than once. And Jacky Ickx wins a second title.

EDIT: And who on earth was Ignazio Giunti???
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Re: Car numbers alternative championship

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1971

Points were awarded on a 9-6-4-3-2-1 basis to the first six finishers at each round. The best five results from the first six rounds and the best four results from the last five rounds were retained.

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      Driver         Team      S.Africa  Spain  Monaco  Dutch  France  UK  Germany  Austria  Italy  Canada  USA  Total
1st   R. Peterson    March                      102     48             108 30                150    102     100  640
2nd   J. Stewart     Tyrrell   54        99     99             99      108 18                       99      16   592
3rd   J. Siffert     BRM                                9      42                   126                     84   261
4th   F. Cevert      Tyrrell                                   72          18                8      12      81   191
5th   C. Amon        Matra     38        80                    40                            12                  170
6th   P. Gethin      BRM                                                                     162                 162
7th   H. Pescarolo   March                                             78           25                           103
8th   P. Rodriguez   BRM                 42             48                                                       90
9th   H. Ganley      BRM                                                                     38             48   86
10th  D. Hulme       McLaren   11        18     27                                                  27           83

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11th  R. Stommelen   Surtees                    24                     48                                        72
12th= M. Andretti    Ferrari   54                                          15                                    69
12th= J. Surtees     Surtees                            46             23                                        69
14th  C. Regazzoni   Ferrari   20                       12                 24                               5    61
15th  J. Ickx        Ferrari             24     16      18                                                       58
16th  T. Schenken    Brabham                                               25       32                           57
17th  M. Donohue     McLaren                                                                        40           40
18th  M. Hailwood    Surtees                                                                 27                  27
19th  R. Wisell      Lotus     9                               2                    9               6            26
20th  E. Fittipaldi  Lotus                      2              4       4            12                           22
21st  J.-P. Beltoise Matra               21                                                                      21
22nd  G. Hill        Brabham                                                        14                           14


When Jackie Stewart was winning all his races with car 11, and thus scoring 99 each time, I was sure he was going to win his third title. And he did score 8 times as opposed to Peterson's 7 times. But I am happy that Peterson won this. And it is looking increasingly unlikely that one of my favourite statistics will be repeated in this alternative - in real life, every F1 driver with the surname Hill, whether related to another or not, wins at least one F1 title, but Graham is unlikely to do so here. :( :cry: Not every Fittipaldi does in either reality or here, nor Brabham, nor Taylor, nor Stewart, nor Villeneuve, etc.
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Re: Car numbers alternative championship

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Finally, the last two years have been calculated and thus, first, here is:

1972

Points for the 1972 World Championship of Drivers were awarded on a 9-6-4-3-2-1 basis to the top six placegetters in each race. For classification, only the best five results from the first half of the season and the best five results from the second half of the season could be retained.

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     Driver         Team      Argentina  S.Africa  Spain  Monaco  Belgium  France  UK  Germany  Austria  Italy  Canada  USA  Total
1st  E. Fittipaldi  Lotus                48        45     32      288      6       72           279      54                  824
2nd  D. Hulme       McLaren   102        108                      36               36           72       56     72      76   558
3rd  P. Revson      McLaren              56        40                              76           56       45     114          387
4th  M. Hailwood    Surtees                                       102      26                   75       60                  263
5th  J. Stewart     Tyrrell   189                         3                36      6                            9       9    252
6th  J.-P. Beltoise BRM                                   153                                                                153
7th  J. Ickx        Ferrari   32                   24     36                           36                               14   142
8th  C. Amon        Matra                                 16      5        36      51           20              4            132
9th  C. Reggazoni   Ferrari   27                   24                                  54                       22           127
10th R. Peterson    March     14         6                                 24          40                               12   96

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11th G. Hill        Brabham              19                                            11                56                  86
12th F. Cevert      Tyrrell                                       48       21                                           12   81
13th A. de Adamich  Surtees                        78                                                                        78
14th C. Pace        March                          29             32                                                         61
15th H. Ganley      BRM                                                                51       9                            60
16th B. Redman      McLaren                               30                           10                                    40
17th T. Schenken    Surtees   38                                                                                             38
18th M. Andretti    Ferrari              21                                                                             9    30
19th C. Reutemann   Brabham                                                                                     24           24
20th P. Gethin      BRM                                                                                  23                  23
21st A. Merzario    Ferrari                                                        6                                         6


Emerson gets to keep his real-life title with the highest points total since Ascari in 1952.
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Re: Car numbers alternative championship

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And the final year, where permanent numbers were introduced as the season progressed:

1973

Points for the 1973 World Championship of Drivers were awarded on a 9-6-4-3-2-1 basis to the top six placegetters in each race.

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1st  J. Hunt        March                                                27     81    108                                      162      378
2nd  J. Stewart     Tyrrell     24   18   27           45    45   10     15           45   45      30       15       10                 329
3rd  P. Revson      McLaren               36     18          16                 72    24                    32       72        16       286
4th  F. Cevert      Tyrrell     48               24    36    18   24     36     12    36   36               12                          282
5th  J. Ickx        Ferrari     54   18                           3      6                 120                                          201
6th  D. Hulme       McLaren     28   28   10     5           7    63            28                                             21       190
7th  J.-P. Beltoise BRM                          30                                   40           40                60                 170
8th  C. Reutemann   Brabham                                       30     40     10                 30       10                 40       160
9th  C. Pace        Surtees                                                                 72     72                                   144
10th R. Peterson    Lotus                                    8    12     18     12                 18       18                 18       104

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11th G. Follmer     Shadow                23     80                                                                                     103
12th J. Oliver      Shadow                                                                                           68                 68
13th E. Fittipaldi  Lotus       18   9    4      9     4     6                              1               6        6         1        64
14th A. Merzario    Ferrari          30   27                                                                                            57
15th N. Lauda       BRM                                42                                                                               42
16th W. Fittipaldi  Brabham     12                                                          22                                          34
17th C. Regazzoni   BRM              14                                                            19                                   33
18th A. de Adamich  Brabham                            27                                                                               27
19th G. Van Lennep  Iso Marlboro                                                      26                                                26
20th H. Ganley      Iso Marlboro                                                                                     25                 25
21st C. Amon        Tecno                              22                                                                               22


James Hunt becomes a three-time champion, joining only Fangio (4 titles), Berger, Senna, Raikkonen and Button. It seemed a close battle between Stewart and Cervert, both scoring many times, but was denied higher car numbers in later races (Hunt had 27 while the Tyrrells had 5 & 6).


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4. Spain
5. Belgium
6. Monaco
7. Sweden
8. France
9. Britain
10 Netherlands
11 Germany
12 Austria
13 Italy
14 Canada
15 USA
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OK, so I haven't updated this since the Hungarian GP in August due to holidays, attending a motor race in Monza, moving to uni, making new friends, lectures, doing Movember, commencing assignments, booking a minibus test, and so on and so forth. Now I am trying to avoid doing an assignment so I decided to catch up on this. Out of the seven races since then, in this alternative championship, we have had 5 winners, with a Toro Rosso winning thrice! So here we go, one race at a time!
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Belgian GP 2011

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7. Sutil      14 x  6 = 84
5. Schumacher  7 x 10 = 70
6. Rosberg     8 x  8 = 64
3. Button      4 x 15 = 60
4. Alonso      5 x 12 = 60
2. Webber      2 x 18 = 36
1. Vettel      1 x 25 = 25
8. Massa       6 x  4 = 24
9. Petrov     10 x  2 = 20
10 Maldonaldo 12 x  1 = 12
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Italian GP 2011

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7. Alguersuari 19 x  6 = 114
3. Alonso       5 x 15 =  75
2. Button       4 x 18 =  72
5. Schumacher   7 x 10 =  70
6. Massa        6 x  8 =  48
4. Hamilton     3 x 12 =  36
8. di Resta     8 x  4 =  32
1. Vettel       1 x 25 =  25
9. Senna        9 x  2 =  18
10 Buemi       18 x  1 =  18
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Singapore GP 2011

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6. di Resta 15 x  8 = 120
2. Button    4 x 18 =  72
4. Alonso    5 x 12 =  60
8. Sutil    14 x  4 =  56
7. Rosberg   8 x  6 =  48
3. Webber    2 x 15 =  30
5. Hamilton  3 x 10 =  30
1. Vettel    1 x 25 =  25
10 Perez    17 x  1 =  17
9. Massa     6 x  2 =  12
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Japanese GP 2011

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1. Button      4 x 25 = 100
2. Alonso      5 x 18 =  90
8. Perez      17 x  4 =  68
6. Schumacher  7 x  8 =  56
7. Massa       6 x  6 =  36
5. Hamilton    3 x 10 =  30
4. Webber      2 x 12 =  24
9. Petrov     10 x  2 =  20
3. Vettel      1 x 15 =  15
10 Rosberg     8 x  1 =   8
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Korean GP 2011

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7. Alguersuari 19 x  6 = 114
3. Webber       4 x 15 =  60
2. Hamilton     3 x 18 =  54
5. Alonso       5 x 10 =  50
4. Button       4 x 12 =  48
6. Massa        6 x  8 =  48
9. Buemi       18 x  2 =  36
8. Rosberg      8 x  4 =  32
1. Vettel       1 x 25 =  25
10 di Resta    15 x  1 =  15
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Indian GP 2011

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8. Alguersuari 19 x  4 = 76
3. Alonso       5 x 15 = 75
2. Button       4 x 18 = 72
5. Schumacher   7 x 10 = 70
6. Rosberg      8 x  8 = 64
9. Sutil       14 x  2 = 28
1. Vettel       1 x 25 = 25
4. Webber       2 x 12 = 24
7. Hamilton     3 x  6 = 18
10 Perez       17 x  1 = 17
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Abu Dhabi GP 2011

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2. Alonso       5 x 18 = 90
1. Hamilton     3 x 25 = 75
6. Rosberg      8 x  8 = 64
3. Button       4 x 15 = 60
5. Massa        6 x 10 = 60
8. Sutil       14 x  4 = 56
7. Schumacher   7 x  6 = 42
9. di Resta    15 x  2 = 30
4. Webber       2 x 12 = 24
10 Kobayashi   16 x  1 = 16
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Overall Championship Positions

Top 10

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3. Alonso       5 x 245 = 1225
2. Button       4 x 255 = 1020
5. Hamilton     3 x 227 =  831
7. Rosberg      8 x  83 =  664
6. Massa        6 x 108 =  648
8. Schumacher   7 x  76 =  532
13 Alguersuari 19 x  26 =  494
11 Sutil       14 x  34 =  476
4. Webber       2 x 233 =  466
12 Kobayashi   16 x  28 =  448


11th to 19th

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1. Vettel       1 x 374 =  374
9. Petrov      10 x  36 =  360
14 di Resta    15 x  23 =  345
10 Heidfeld     9 x  34 =  306
15 Buemi       18 x  15 =  270
16 Perez       17 x  14 =  238
17 Barrichello 11 x   4 =   44
18 Senna        9 x   2 =   18
19 Maldonaldo  12 x   1 =   12


Alonso has this won. Button could score a maximum of 100 in Brazil, leaving him short. If D'Ambrosio were to win against all the odds, he would 'only' score 625, nowhere near enough to overcome Alonso.
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Start of a new season, so time to revive this thread. A reminder - car numbers are issued based on the constructors championship of the year before. And one would typically expect a team to do roughly the same year-on-year. So if they start doing better one year realtive to the year before, they ought to be rewarded for this, right? So how to do this? Use their allocated car number as a point multiplier!

So here are the results for Australia 2012, to see who has done better/worse than expected, based on last year's championship results!

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 6.  Kobayashi  8 x 14 = 112
 1.  Button    25 x  3 =  75
 8.  Perez      4 x 15 =  60
 3.  Hamilton  15 x  4 =  60
 7.  Raikkonen  6 x  9 =  54
 5.  Alonso    10 x  5 =  50
 9.  Ricciardo  2 x 16 =  32
 4.  Webber    12 x  2 =  24
 2.  Vettel    18 x  1 =  18
10  Di Resta   1 x 11 =  11


Last year, Renault started the season well with a couple of wins, before fading away as the season progressed. They could have done the same again last weekend if Fat John had finished where he qualified. But both Sauber drivers this year, Kobayashi and Perez, have instead got off to a good start, as has Button.
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Didn't realise that it was a whole year since I last updated this! Anyway, here is a summary of the 2012 season! (This is where the points total is multiplied by the car number to reward the smaller teams - theoretically...)

2012 season

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   Driver     Final total

1. Raikkonen  1863
2. Alonso     1390
3. Perez       990
4. Grosjean    960
5. Kobayashi   840
6. Maldonado   810
7. Hamilton    760
8. Hulkenberg  756
9. Rosberg     744
10 Massa       732

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11 Senna       589
12 Button      564
13 di Resta    506
14 Webber      358
15 Schumacher  343
16 Vettel      281
17 Vergne      272
18 Ricciardo   160


A brilliant result for Kimi on his comeback and also for McLaren's 2013 recruit Sergio Perez. Terrible for Senna, even with a larger car number than his teammate, who finished a decent 6th, despite only a handful of points finishes. (Sorry for the lack of showing calculations - formatting problems!)

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   Team       No. 1   No. 2   Total

1. Lotus      1863    960     2823
2. Ferrari    1390    732     2122
3. Sauber      990    840     1830
4. Williams    810    589     1399
5. McLaren     760    564     1324
6. Force India 756    506     1262
7. Mercedes    744    343     1087
8. Red Bull    358    281      639
9. Toro Rosso  272    160      432

So a good year for Team Enstone and Sauber. Terrible for Toro Rosso, depite running much larger car numbers than their A team...

Just about to update the overall list.

EDIT: Just realised I didn't update 2011 either to post-Brazil, so just about to do that too...
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Please ignore - I got McLaren's numbers the wrong way round!!!

So, finally, more than a year late, I present the...

2011 Season Total

Top-10

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Driver             Team         car number    points total    revised total
Fernando Alonso    Ferrari       5             257             1285
Lewis Hamilton     McLaren       4             227              908
Jenson Button      McLaren       3             270              810
Nico Rosberg       Mercedes      8              89              712
Felipe Massa       Ferrari       6             118              708
Adrian Sutil       Force India  14              42              588
Michael Schumacher Mercedes      7              76              532
Mark Webber        Red Bull      2             258              516
Jamie Alguersuari  Toro Rosso   19              26              494
Kamui Kobayashi    Sauber       16              30              480

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Paul di Resta      Force India  15              27              405
Sebastian Vettel   Red Bull      1             392              392
Vitaly Petrov      Renault      10              37              370
Nick Heidfeld      Renault       9              34              306
Sebastian Buemi    Toro Rosso   18              15              270
Sergio Perez       Sauber       17              14              238
Rubens Barrichello Williams     11               4               44
Pastor Maldonaldo  Williams     12               1               12


First time since the the 1980s that a driver has won this championship two years in a row (Gerhard Berger in '87/'88 and Michele Albereto in '84/'85).
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A reminder of the overall championship tables...

Original Car Number Allocation System (1950 - 1973)

Car numbers would vary from race-to-race, with numbers allocated by race organisers.

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Year  Driver               Points   Driver's Team
1950  Juan-Manuel Fangio   458      Alfa Romeo
1951  Juan-Manuel Fangio   979      Alfa Romeo
1952  Alboreto Ascari      1218     Ferrari
1953  Juan-Manuel Fangio   762      Maserati
1954  Juan-Manuel Fangio   686      Maserati, Mercedes
1955  Maurice Trintignant  389 1/3  Ferrari
1956  Stirling Moss        699      Maserati
1957  Stirling Moss        502      Maserati, Vanwall
1958  George Amick         594      Epperly
1959  Phil Hill            544      Ferrari

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1960  Olivier Gendebien    400      Cooper
1961  Giancarlo Baghetti   450      Ferrari
1962  Bruce McLaren        452      Cooper
1963  Jim Clark            428      Lotus
1964  Jim Clark            416      Lotus
1965  Jackie Stewart       504      BRM
1966  Jack Brabham         354      Brabham
1967  Dan Gurney           364      Eagle
1968  Jacky Ickx           439      Ferrari
1969  Jackie Stewart       438      Matra

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1970  Jacky Ickx           466      Ferrari
1971  Ronnie Peterson      640      March
1972  Emerson Fittipaldi   824      Lotus
1973  James Hunt           378      March


Prior to 1996, the teams tended to keep the same numbers unless/until they won the championship (when they then swapped with the previous holders of the numbers 1 & 2). Here are my results for the originally-allocated numbers.

Overall Winners with previous car number allocation system: 1974 - 1995

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Year Driver             No.  Points  Driver's Team   Winning Constructor
1974 Clay Regazzoni     11    572    Ferrari         Ferrari
1975 James Hunt         24    792    Hesketh         Ferrari
1976 James Hunt         11    759    McLaren         McLaren
1977 Jody Scheckter     20   1100    Wolf            Ferrari
1978 Carlos Reutemann   11    528    Ferrari         Ferrari
1979 Alan Jones         27   1080    Williams        Williams

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1980 Alan Jones         27   1809    Williams        Williams
1981 Jacques Laffite    26   1144    Ligier          Ligier
1982 Didier Pironi      28   1092    Ferrari         Ferrari
1983 Rene Arnoux        28   1372    Ferrari         Ferrari
1984 Michele Alboreto   27    823.5  Ferrari         Ferrari
1985 Michele Alboreto   27   1431    Ferrari         Ferrari
1986 Ayrton Senna       12    660    Lotus           Ferrari
1987 Gerhard Berger     28   1008    Ferrari         Ferrari
1988 Gerhard Berger     28   1148    Ferrari         McLaren
1989 Nigel Mansell      27   1026    Ferrari         Ferrari

('87* Philippe Alliot   30   1290    Larrousse       Larrousse)

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1990 Ayrton Senna       27   2106    McLaren         McLaren
1991 Alain Prost        27    918    Ferrari         Ferrari
1992 Michael Schumacher 19   1007    Benetton        Benetton
1993 Ayrton Senna        8    584    McLaren         Ferrari
1994 Gerhard Berger     28   1148    Ferrari         Ferrari
1995 Jean Alesi         27   1134    Ferrari         Ferrari

*=Jim Clark/Colin Chapman Trophies for normally-aspirated cars

In 1996, teams would no longer keep the numbers with which they raced for many years and the numbers are now allocated based upon finishing order in the previous year's Constructors' Championship.

Overall winners with current car number allocation system: 1996-date

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Year    Winner                  car no. Points  Original position
1996    Damon Hill              5       485     1st
1997    David Coulthard         10      360     3rd=
1998    Mika Hakkinen           8       800     1st
1999    Heinz-Harald Frentzen   8       432     3rd
2000    Jacques Villeneuve      22      374     7th
2001    David Coulthard         4       260     2nd
2002    Juan-Pablo Montoya      6       300     3rd
2003    Kimi Raikkonen          6       546     2nd
2004    Jenson Button           9       765     3rd

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2005    Kimi Raikkonen          9       1008    2nd
2006    Jenson Button           12      672     6th
2007    Kimi Raikkonen          6       660     1st
2008    Lewis Hamilton          22      2156    1st
2009    Jenson Button           22      2090    1st

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2010    Fernando Alonso         8       2016    2nd
2011    Fernando Alonso         5       1285    4th
2012    Kimi Raikkonen          9       1863    3rd


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Juan-Manuel Fangio    4 ('50, '51. '53, '54)
Kimi Raikkonen        4 ('03, '05, '07, '12)
James Hunt            3 ('73, '75, '76)
Ayrton Senna          3 ('86, '90, '93)
Gerhard Berger        3 ('87, '88, '94)
Jenson Button         3 ('04, '06, '09)

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Stirling Moss         2 ('56, '57)
Jim Clark             2 ('63, '64)
Jackie Stewart        2 ('65, '69)
Jacky Ickx            2 ('68, '70)
Alan Jones            2 ('79, '80)
Michele Alboreto      2 ('84, '85)
David Coulthard       2 ('97,'01)
Fernando Alonso       2 ('10, '11)

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Alberto Ascari        1 ('52)
Maurice Trintignant   1 ('55)
George Amick          1 ('58)
Phil Hill             1 ('59)
Olivier Gendebien     1 ('60)
Giancarlo Baghetti    1 ('61)
Bruce McLaren         1 ('62)
Jack Brabham          1 ('66)
Dan Gurney            1 ('67)

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Ronnie Peterson       1 ('71)
Emerson Fittipaldi    1 ('72)
Clay Regazzoni        1 ('74)
Jody Scheckter        1 ('77)
Carlos Reutemann      1 ('78)
Jacques Laffite       1 ('81)
Didier Pironi         1 ('82)
Rene Arnoux           1 ('83)
Nigel Mansell         1 ('89)

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Alain Prost           1 ('91)
Michael Schumacher    1 ('92)
Jean Alesi            1 ('95)
Damon Hill            1 ('96)
Mika Hakkinen         1 ('98)
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 1 ('99)
Jacques Villeneuve    1 ('00)
Juan-Pablo Montoya    1 ('02)
Lewis Hamilton        1 ('08)
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1999    Heinz-Harald Frentzen   8       432     3rd

The incontrovertible proof that Frentzen was the best driver of 1999!
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Great stuff!

Minor quibble though - the McLaren drivers' numbers are the wrong way round in 2011. Hamilton had 3 and Button 4 due to Hamilton finishing higher in 2010, that was reversed in 2012 due to Button being ahead in 2011!

Also I'd be interested to see what 2008 would look like had McLaren been assigned their numbers on merit. (ie give them 3 and 4 then move every other team's numbers accordinlgy)! :)
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James1978 wrote:Great stuff!

Minor quibble though - the McLaren drivers' numbers are the wrong way round in 2011. Hamilton had 3 and Button 4 due to Hamilton finishing higher in 2010, that was reversed in 2012 due to Button being ahead in 2011!

Also I'd be interested to see what 2008 would look like had McLaren been assigned their numbers on merit. (ie give them 3 and 4 then move every other team's numbers accordinlgy)! :)

OK. On the to-do list for this afternoon, to sort out 2011 and to do the alternate 2008! (Bound to be a different winner!)
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UgncreativeUsergname wrote:
dr-baker wrote:

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1999    Heinz-Harald Frentzen   8       432     3rd

The incontrovertible proof that Frentzen was the best driver of 1999!

Thanks for taking the time to look through this. And yes, it may well imply that, which makes me sadder, having been a Damon Hill fan through the 1990s...

James1978 wrote:Great stuff!

Minor quibble though - the McLaren drivers' numbers are the wrong way round in 2011. Hamilton had 3 and Button 4 due to Hamilton finishing higher in 2010, that was reversed in 2012 due to Button being ahead in 2011!

OK, so for the corrected tables!

2011 Season (with McLaren having the drivers with corrected numbers...)

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      Driver             Team          car number  points total  revised total  original position
1st   Fernando Alonso    Ferrari        5          257           1285            4th
2nd   Jenson Button      McLaren        4          270           1080            2nd
3rd   Nico Rosberg       Mercedes       8           89            712            7th
4th   Felipe Massa       Ferrari        6          118            708            6th
5th   Lewis Hamilton     McLaren        3          227            681            5th
6th   Adrian Sutil       Force India   14           42            588            9th
7th   Michael Schumacher Mercedes       7           76            532            8th
8th   Mark Webber        Red Bull       2          258            516            3rd
9th   Jamie Alguersuari  Toro Rosso    19           26            494           14th
10th  Kamui Kobayashi    Sauber        16           30            480           12th

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11th  Paul di Resta      Force India   15           27            405           13th
12th  Sebastian Vettel   Red Bull       1          392            392            1st
13th  Vitaly Petrov      Renault       10           37            370           10th
14th  Nick Heidfeld      Renault        9           34            306           11th
15th  Sebastian Buemi    Toro Rosso    18           15            270           15th
16th  Sergio Perez       Sauber        17           14            238           16th
17th  Rubens Barrichello Williams      11            4             44           17th
18th  Pastor Maldonaldo  Williams      12            1             12           18th

So originally, maybe I just wanted to make the British drivers look better? Lewis loses out with my mistake corrected. And Williams did have a disastrous season...

2012 Season (in the same detail as the other seasons...)

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      Driver             Team         car number   points total  revised total  original position
1st   Kimi Raikkonen     Team Enstone  9           207           1863            3rd
2nd   Fernando Alonso    Ferrari       5           278           1390            2nd
3rd   Sergio Perez       Sauber       15            66            990           10th
4th   Romain Grosjean    Team Enstone 10            96            960            8th
5th   Kamui Kobayashi    Sauber       14            60            840           12th
6th   Pastor Maldonado   Williams     18            45            810           15th
7th   Lewis Hamilton     McLaren       4           190            760            4th
8th   Nico Hulkenberg    Force India  12            63            756           11th
9th   Nico Rosberg       Mercedes      8            93            744            9th
10th  Felipe Massa       Ferrari       6           122            732            7th

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11th  Bruno Senna        Williams     19            31            589           16th
12th  Jenson Button      McLaren       3           188            564            5th
13th  Paul di Resta      Force India  11            46            506           14th
14th  Mark Webber        Red Bull      2           179            358            6th
15th  Michael Schumacher Mercedes      7            49            343           13th
16th  Sebastien Vettel   Red Bull      1           281            281            1st
17th  Jules Vergne       Toro Rosso   17            16            272           17th
18th  Daniel Ricciardo   Toro Rosso   16            10            160           18th

A good season for Sauber and for TTTLTBKAL (The team That Likes To Be Known As Lotus). And again, a poor season for the reigning world champs! :D

James1978 wrote:Also I'd be interested to see what 2008 would look like had McLaren been assigned their numbers on merit. (ie give them 3 and 4 then move every other team's numbers accordingly)! :)

Are you sure? At the time, I am sure most of us would have taken much joy from this, but with hindsight, maybe not? Still, it gives a title to TTFKAM (The Team Formerly Known As Minardi)... :D :?:

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      Driver             Team        car number    points total  revised total  original position
1st   Sebastian Vettel   Toro Rosso  17            35            595             8th
2nd   Robert Kubica      BMW Sauber   6            75            450             3rd=
3rd   Jarno Trulli       Toyota      14            31            434             9th
4th   Fernando Alonso    Renault      7            61            427             5th
5th   Timo Glock         Toyota      15            25            375            10th
6th   Nick Heidfeld      BMW Sauber   5            60            300             6th
7th   Lewis Hamilton     McLaren      3            98            294             1st
8th   Rubens Barrichello Honda       23            11            253            14th
9th   Mark Webber        Red Bull    12            21            252            11th
10th  Heikki Kovalainen  McLaren      4            53            212             7th

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11th  Felipe Massa       Ferrari      2            97            194             2nd
12th  Nico Rosberg       Williams     9            17            153            13th
13th  Nelson Piquet      Renault      8            19            152            12th
14th  Kazuki Nakajima    Williams    10             9             90            15th
15th  David Coulthard    Red Bull    11             8             88            16th
16th  Kimi Raikkonen     Ferrari      1            75             75             3rd=
17th  Jenson Button      Honda       22             3             66            18th
18th  Sebastien Boudais  Toro Rosso  16             4             64            17th


Really emphasises the difference between the two Sebs that season, doesn't it?
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dr-baker wrote:Really emphasises the difference between the two Sebs that season, doesn't it?


Especially the difference in luck. Vettel had all his bad luck out of the way before the Toro Rosso was on form, while Bourdais lost a potential podium at Monza due to a car problem - though he still set fastest lap in that race. He lost another possible podium at Spa with that last-moment downpour, and then there was that ridiculous penalty he got in Fuji.
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