F1RWRS - Pre-qualifying Cup -- 2014 onwards

[AdrianSutil]

Pre-Qualifying Cup announced.

After continuing pressure from the smaller teams, the main concern being prize money, the F1RWRS committee have announced the re-introduction of a pre-qualifying cup. The system was first run back in 2010, but was abandoned after only a few races. Mitie Aviation Racing team boss Mr.Alexander was the main person behind the new idea. "I thought it would be a good idea to re-introduce it, with a seperate allocation of prize money. This gives the teams continually fighting in pre-qualifying a good chance of having their own battles with teams around them, scoring points and claiming some much-needed extra income."
The series has only been agreed after the fourth round, but all races in 2014 have been included in the results. "It seems several teams have become disillusioned with continually failing to make an impact in qualifying, so this should see some renewed interest at the back of the field. Our team will continue to improve the car, and are confident we can score some much-needed points."

The rules are very simple:

*All teams competing at that weekend's pre-qualifying are eligible for points, which are given out to the top 8 fastest drivers in a 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 system.
*There is no Drivers Championship.
*Prize money will be given out at the end of the season, with all teams claiming at least a small amount, even if they fail to score a single point.
*Teams are still allowed driver changes, performance upgrades and anything else that is currently in place.

[AdrianSutil]

With the introduction of the Pre-Qualifying Cup, several new teams and drivers were looking to make an immediate impact and show their worth. 5 new teams entered the F1RWRS in 2014: Dofasco, MA Racing, Acuri Autosport, Shonan DMS Racing and Mecha Grand Prix. MasterCard CR were taken over by Tropico during the off-season and are re-named Tropico powere by CR. 

Round 1: Tasman GP - Australia

Conditions: Wet throughout
 
1. Phillippe Nicolas (MRT) -- 1.20.446 -10 points
2. Ron Mignolet (Acuri) -- 1.21.533 (+1.087) - 8 points
3. Phoenix McAllister (Phoenix) -- 1.22.282 (+1.836) - 6 points
4. Nathanael Spencer (MRT) -- 1.22.568 (+2.122) - 5 points
5. The Stig (Phoenix) -- 1.23.429 (+2.983) - 4 points
6. Giovanni Roda (Trueba) -- 1.24.112 (+3.666) - 3 points
7. Saeed Al Faisal (Mecha) -- 1.24.556 (+4.110) - 2 points
8. James Davies (Mecha) -- 1.24.828 (+4.382) - 1 point
9. Andrea Acuri (Acuri) -- 1.24.829 (+4.383)
10. Hagane Shizuka (Shonan) -- 1.24.947 (+4.501)
11. Alexey Pchelintsev (Mitie) -- 1.25.148 (+4.702)
12. Matthias Valsattis (Mitie) -- 1.25.381 (+4.935)
13. Yu- Hiang Hao (Dofasco) -- 1.25.420 (+4.974)
14. Tomislaw Tajner (Dofasco) -- 1.25.901 (+5.455)
15. Fredo Mestolio (Trueba) -- 1.25.906 (+5.460)
16. Francois Albertini (Shonan) -- 1.26.025 (+5.579)
17. Miko Fakkinen (Tropico) -- 1.27.255 (+6.809)
18. Darren Older Jr (Tropico) -- 1.31.041 (+10.595)

MRT surprised everyone with their pre-season pace, so it was no real surprise to see Phillippe Nicolas claim the full 10 points, a full 1.1 seconds clear of Mignolet in the Acuri Autosport car. McAllister was 3rd for Phoenix with Nicolas' team-mate Spencer 4th, a massive 2.1 seconds behind Nicolas' blistering pace. The Stig was a solid 5th on debut for Phoenix, proving his speed is not just for the Top Gear test track. Giovanni Roda was 6th for Trueba, with 7th and 8th going to the Mecha team, Al Faisal ahead of Davies. 
At the bottom of the timesheets, Tropico had an awful session. Miko Fakkinen was 6.8 seconds off the pace whilst Darren Older Jr was over 10 seconds slower. 

Pre-Qualifying Cup standings- Round 1:

1. MRT - 15pts
2. Phoenix - 10pts
3. Acuri - 8pts
4. Trueba - 3pts (1 6th)
5. Mecha - 3pts (1 7th)

[AdrianSutil]

Round 2: Bathurst GP - Australia

Weather Forecast: Dry all weekend.

1. Kay Lon (Sunshine) -- 1.44.560 - 10 points
2. Ron Mignolet (Acuri) -- 1.44.589 (+0.029) - 8 points
3. Shinobu Katayama (Sunshine) -- 1.44.669 (+0.109) - 6 points
4. Phoenix McAllister (Phoenix) -- 1.44.872 (+0.312) - 5 points
5. The Stig (Phoenix) -- 1.46.289 (+1.729) - 4 points
6. Giovanni Roda (Trueba) -- 1.46.645 (+2.085) - 3 points
7. Fredo Mestolio (Trueba) -- 1.46.796 (+2.236) - 2 points
8. Andrea Acuri (Acuri) -- 1.46.827 (+2.267) - 1 point
9. James Davies (Mecha) -- 1.46.904 (+2.344)
10. Matthias Valsattis (Mitie) -- 1.47.017 (+2.457)
11. Tomislaw Tajner (Dofasco) -- 1.47.093 (+2.533)
12. Francois Albertini (Shonan) -- 1.47.303 (+2.743)
13. Alexey Pchelintsev (Mitie) -- 1.47.803 (+3.243)
14. Yu Hiang Hao (Dofasco) -- 1.47.872 (+3.312)
15. Hagane Shizuka (Shonan) -- 1.48.956 (+4.396)
16. Saeed Al Faisal (Mecha) -- 1.49.040 (+4.480)
17. Miko Fakkinen (Tropico) -- 1.51.239 (+6.679)
18. Darren Older Jr (Tropico) -- 1.52.362 (+7.802)

After Sunshine Infiniti got demoted to pre-qualifying for round 2, Kay Lon and Shinobu Katayama took full advantage of their superior cars, recording the first and third fastest times, giving Sunshine a healthy 16 points. Ron Mignolet scores another 8 points with second place, less than 3 hundreths behind Lon. In 4th was Phoenix McAllister with his team-mate The Stig over 1.7 off the pace in 5th. Roda and Mestolito picked up more points for Trueba with Acuri picking up the final point for his team, 2.2 seconds behind Lon. At the back, Tropico again filled the final two positions, although the team will be happy that Older Jr was only 7.8 seconds behind. 

Pre-qualifying Cup Standings - Round 2:

1. Phoenix - 19pts
2. Acuri - 17pts
3. Sunshine - 16pts
4. MRT - 15pts
5. Trueba - 8pts
6. Mecha - 3pts

[AdrianSutil]

Round 3: Brasilia GP - Brazil

Weather forecast: Dry all weekend.

1. Jack Christopherson (Foxdale) -- 1.28.394 - 10 points
2. Andrea Acuri (Acuri) -- 1.29.371 (+0.977) - 8 points
3. Douglas Mann (Foxdale) -- 1.29.698 (+1.304) - 6 points
4. Phoenix McAllister (Phoenix) -- 1.29.810 (+1.416) - 5 points
5. Fredo Mestolio (Trueba) -- 1.29.841 (+1.447) - 4 points
6. Giovanni Roda (Trueba) -- 1.30.153 (+1.759) - 3 points
7. Stepehen Mackintosh (Mitie) -- 1.30.195 (+1.801) - 2 points
8. The Stig (Phoenix) -- 1.30.317 (+1.923) - 1 point
9. Ron Mignolet (Acuri) -- 1.30.323 (+1.929)
10. Tomislaw Tajner (Dofasco) -- 1.30.872 (+2.478)
11. Yu Hiang Hao (Dofasco) -- 1.31.332 (+2.938)
12. Matthias Valsattis (Mitie) -- 1.31.572 (+3.178)
13. James Davies (Mecha) -- 1.32.126 (+3.732)
14. Hagane Shizuka (Shonan) -- 1.32.472 (+4.078)
15. Saeed Al Faisal (Mecha) -- 1.32.741 (+4.347)
16. Francois Albertini (Shonan) -- 1.32.783 (+4.389)
17. Darren Older Jr (Tropico) -- 1.33.851 (+5.457)
18. Miko Fakkinen (Tropico) -- 1.34.155 (+5.761)

Now it was Foxdale's turn to fight it out in pre-qualifying. But Jack Christopherson and Dougla Mass didn't disappoint, setting the first and third fastest times. Andrea Acuri performed wonders to pop up in 2nd place, helping his team-mate through pre-qualifying, despite Mignolet being outside the points. Phoenix again had both drivers in the points, McAllister in 4th and The Stig in 8th. Mestolito and Giovanni Roda both scored again for Trueba, who were making a solid start to their year. Finally, debutant Stephan Mackintosh scored two points for MA Racing, setting a time just 1.8 seconds slower than Cristopherson. 

Pre-Qualifying Cup Standings - Round 3:

1. Acuri - 25pts (3 2nd's)
=. Phoenix - 25pts (1 3rd)
3. Sunshine - 16pts (1 1st, 1 3rd)
=. Foxdale - 16pts (1 1st, 1 3rd)
5. MRT - 15pts (1 1st)
=. Trueba - 15pts (1 5th)
7. Mecha - 3pts
8. Mitie - 2pts

[AdrianSutil]

Round 4: Hermanos Rodriguez GP - Mexico

Weather Forecast: Dry throughout

1. Phoenix McAllister (Phoenix) -- 1.28.317 - 10 points
2. Ron Mignolet (Acuri) -- 1.28.776 (+0.459) - 8 points
3. Tomislaw Tajner (Dofasco) -- 1.28.933 (+0.616) - 6 points
4. Giovanni Roda (Trueba) -- 1.29.450 (+1.133) - 5 points
5. Andrea Acuri (Acuri) -- 1.29.514 (+1.197) - 4 points
6. Gary Cameron (Prospec) -- 1.29.684 (+1.367) - 3 points
7. Jean Luc Schiller (Prospec) -- 1.29.820 (+1.503) - 2 points
8. Sebastian Groves (Dofasco) -- 1.29.820 (+1.503) - 1 point
9. The Stig (Phoenix) -- 1.29.982 (+1.665)
10. Matthias Valsattis (Mitie) -- 1.29.983 (+1.666)
11. Jason Van Dycke (Shonan) -- 1. 31.236 (+2.919)
12. Francois Albertini (Shonan) -- 1.31.448 (+3.131)
13. James Davies (Mecha) -- 1.31.571 (+3.254)
14. Saeed Al Faisal (Mecha) -- 1.31.822 (+3.505)
15. Miko Fakkinen (Tropico) -- 1.32.025 (+3.708)
16. Fredo Mestolio (Trueba) -- 1.32.036 (+3.719)
17. Stephen Mackintosh (Mitie) -- 1.32.114 (+3.797)
18. Darren Older Jr (Tropico) -- 1.36.085 (+7.768)

It was a day of first's in pre-qualifying, with Phoenix finally taking the 10 points, thanks to McAllister, Dofasco getting off the mark and Pembrerton Prospec making their pre-qualifying bow with solid points. Mignolet showed good pace with 2nd place, half a second behind McAllister, with Tajner scoring 6 points for Dofasco. In 4th and 5th were Giovanni Roda and Andrea Acuri, yet again both scoring points. Prospec finished the session in 6th and 7th, Cameron ahead of Schiller, but sadly failing to qualiy. Sebastian Groves scored the 8th fastest time on his debut or Dofasco, setting a time 1.5 seconds off the pace.  The Stig and Matthias Valsattis completed the top 10, seperated by one thousanths of a second. Shonan showed improvement with 11th and 12th, but it was a poor session for Mestolio and Mackintosh, ending the day in 16th and 17th. In last place was Older Jr again for Tropico, 7.7 away from the fastest time. 

Pre-Qualifying Cup Standings - Round 4:

1. Acuri - 37pts
2. Phoenix - 35pts
3. Trueba - 20pts
4. Sunshine - 16pts (1 1st, 1 3rd)
=. Foxdale - 16pts (1 1st, 1 3rd)
6. MRT - 15pts
7. Dofasco - 7pts
8. Prospec - 5pts
9. Mecha - 3pts
10. Mitie - 2pts 

[Aerond]

This is quite interesting as it gives smaller teams something to fight for. It seems that next round at Long Beach will be extremely favourable to Acuri´s interests as Phoenix will skip PreQ, but I also think we haven´t seen everything yet as both Acuri and Phoenix could be in and out of PreQ during the season.

[AdrianSutil]

This is quite interesting as it gives smaller teams something to fight for. It seems that next round at Long Beach will be extremely favourable to Acuri´s interests as Phoenix will skip PreQ, but I also think we haven´t seen everything yet as both Acuri and Phoenix could be in and out of PreQ during the season.

It also gives smaller teams the chance of a freak result. For example, all of Dofasco's points came in one session. I think Trueba might be a dark horse, consistent points in every weekend should beat the big boys when they have to do 4 or 5 sessions at most.

[Pointrox]

Even in this cup Shonan is COMPLETELY HOPELESS

[Shizuka]

Even in this cup Shonan is COMPLETELY HOPELESS

Yes!

[dr-baker]

So what happens to the credit distribution if there are two teams tied on points in the top-8 at the end of the season? I assume that the credits for those two positions will be split evenly between them? (Although I suspect that Foxdale will eventually not be affected by this...)

[Aerond]

So what happens to the credit distribution if there are two teams tied on points in the top-8 at the end of the season? I assume that the credits for those two positions will be split evenly between them? (Although I suspect that Foxdale will eventually not be affected by this...)

We´ll count wins, 2nd places, etc as usual, if after that there´s a tie then money will be split.

[AndreaModa]

The ironic thing about all this though is that it doesn't benefit the teams that are worst off. We all know it's going to be virtually impossible for Shonan and certainly Tropico to qualify for a race. At this rate, neither will even score any points in this either! Whilst Acuri, the team most likely to escape pre-qualifying at the midway point of the season in my view, will end up walking away with most of the credits awarded. So it still doesn't solve the issue of balancing out the credits, because the worst teams still loose out. It does make it a bit more even, but not by much.

[SuperAguri]

It seems silly that Sunshine that had an awful qualifying session yet still managed to get a healthy number of points in the race, were forced to prequalify for the next race or MRT who are currently second in the championship would get extra points just because they happened to be in PQ for the first race of the season.

I would suggest that if a team scores points (maybe have a cut off point) in the real championship that they can not score points in this championship. Although it might make it a bit of work, I would suggest that the points get awarded retroactively. So Sunshine, MRT, Foxdale and Acuri would not score any points.

The revised points table would look like this...

1. Phoenix - 62pts
2. Trueba - 37pts
3. Dofasco - 16pts
4. Mecha - 13pts
5. Mitie - 10pts
6. Prospec - 9pts
7. Acuri - 6pts
8. Shonan - 3pts
9. Tropico - 0pts

[Aerond]

It seems silly that Sunshine that had an awful qualifying session yet still managed to get a healthy number of points in the race, were forced to prequalify for the next race or MRT who are currently second in the championship would get extra points just because they happened to be in PQ for the first race of the season.

I would suggest that if a team scores points (maybe have a cut off point) in the real championship that they can not score points in this championship. Although it might make it a bit of work, I would suggest that the points get awarded retroactively. So Sunshine, MRT, Foxdale and Acuri would not score any points.

The revised points table would look like this...

1. Phoenix - 62pts
2. Trueba - 37pts
3. Dofasco - 16pts
4. Mecha - 13pts
5. Mitie - 10pts
6. Prospec - 9pts
7. Acuri - 6pts
8. Shonan - 3pts
9. Tropico - 0pts

I don´t know, I just like the way it is now. Coming from PreQ and scoring is a good achievement in itself so I don´t see why teams should be penalised for that.

[Phoenix]

It seems silly that Sunshine that had an awful qualifying session yet still managed to get a healthy number of points in the race, were forced to prequalify for the next race or MRT who are currently second in the championship would get extra points just because they happened to be in PQ for the first race of the season.

I would suggest that if a team scores points (maybe have a cut off point) in the real championship that they can not score points in this championship. Although it might make it a bit of work, I would suggest that the points get awarded retroactively. So Sunshine, MRT, Foxdale and Acuri would not score any points.

The revised points table would look like this...

1. Phoenix - 62pts
2. Trueba - 37pts
3. Dofasco - 16pts
4. Mecha - 13pts
5. Mitie - 10pts
6. Prospec - 9pts
7. Acuri - 6pts
8. Shonan - 3pts
9. Tropico - 0pts

I don´t know, I just like the way it is now. Coming from PreQ and scoring is a good achievement in itself so I don´t see why teams should be penalised for that.

Agree. And another thing a want to raise up is, I find unfair that the best four teams go trhough instead of the four best drivers. If Driver X from Team Z is the best in prequalifying but Driver Y from Team Z is awful, that might mean Team Z would undeservedly fail to prequalify altogether. I just feel this should be revised.

[Aerond]

Agree. And another thing a want to raise up is, I find unfair that the best four teams go trhough instead of the four best drivers. If Driver X from Team Z is the best in prequalifying but Driver Y from Team Z is awful, that might mean Team Z would undeservedly fail to prequalify altogether. I just feel this should be revised.

It´s impossible to change this for now as GP2 allows 28 drivers in 14 teams.

[Klon]

Agree. And another thing a want to raise up is, I find unfair that the best four teams go trhough instead of the four best drivers. If Driver X from Team Z is the best in prequalifying but Driver Y from Team Z is awful, that might mean Team Z would undeservedly fail to prequalify altogether. I just feel this should be revised.

Sadly, the nature of GP2 prevents this, it is quite difficult to implement such a system.

[Nessafox]

Agree. And another thing a want to raise up is, I find unfair that the best four teams go trhough instead of the four best drivers. If Driver X from Team Z is the best in prequalifying but Driver Y from Team Z is awful, that might mean Team Z would undeservedly fail to prequalify altogether. I just feel this should be revised.

Indeed, previous year, my driver would have qualified a lot of times, were it not for your driver being too slow

[AdrianSutil]

If you were to allow only the smaller teams, where would the cutoff be? Because I don't regard Phoenix as a small team at all. Teams like Tropico are always going to struggle because they run two pay-drivers. Acuri were always looking like the favourite to win it anyway. I'm not changing the way it's running, as every team will recieve credits wherever they finish. Even teams like Foxdale obviously need a 'boost', otherwise they wouldn't have been in pre-qualifying for a round.

[Phoenix]

If you were to allow only the smaller teams, where would the cutoff be? Because I don't regard Phoenix as a small team at all. Teams like Tropico are always going to struggle because they run two pay-drivers. Acuri were always looking like the favourite to win it anyway. I'm not changing the way it's running, as every team will recieve credits wherever they finish. Even teams like Foxdale obviously need a 'boost', otherwise they wouldn't have been in pre-qualifying for a round.

We're not small, but we are pitiful nevertheless

[SuperAguri]

I don´t know, I just like the way it is now. Coming from PreQ and scoring is a good achievement in itself so I don´t see why teams should be penalised for that.

Well because a couple of teams that will finish in the top 10 of the championship will get extra credits just because they had a crap qualifying one race. Why should MRT and Sunshine get extra credits when a lower midfield team like HRT, GRM or Arrowtech will not just cause they happen to be better in qualifying? Yes they might end up in PQ but if then it seems silly that Acuri might more credits despite scoring the same number of points in the championship as say GRM.

Maybe the cut off should be 7 team points (ie unrejectify status according to F1 Rejects), so at least currently MRT, Jones and Sunshine should not get any points as all have over 7 points.

It is very likely that Jones will easily clear the hurdle anyway in the next PQ...

[Phoenix]

I don´t know, I just like the way it is now. Coming from PreQ and scoring is a good achievement in itself so I don´t see why teams should be penalised for that.

Well because a couple of teams that will finish in the top 10 of the championship will get extra credits just because they had a crap qualifying one race. Why should MRT and Sunshine get extra credits when a lower midfield team like HRT, GRM or Arrowtech will not just cause they happen to be better in qualifying? Yes they might end up in PQ but if then it seems silly that Acuri might more credits despite scoring the same number of points in the championship as say GRM.

Maybe the cut off should be 7 team points (ie unrejectify status according to F1 Rejects), so at least MRT, Jones and Sunshine should not get any points.

Sounds good to me.

[AdrianSutil]

There's seiously way too much moaning on here sometimes. What would people prefer to see? Just the main pre-qualifiers eligible for points (MA-Racing, Shonan, Dofasco, Acuri, Tropico etc), or the current system? I'm trying my hardest here to bring a bit more to the back of the field (Of which I'm one don't forget!).

[Aerond]

There's seiously way too much moaning on here sometimes. What would people prefer to see? Just the main pre-qualifiers eligible for points (MA-Racing, Shonan, Dofasco, Acuri, Tropico etc), or the current system? I'm trying my hardest here to bring a bit more to the back of the field (Of which I'm one don't forget!).

I agree with this. MRT will probably hit the 1000 credits top anyway and I don´t think 25 or something extra credits to Sunshine will mean any substantial difference overall.

[SuperAguri]

Well I just feel that credits should not go to teams who will get a bunch of points in the main championship. Do MRT, Sunshine and Jones who will all end in the top 10 get extra credits? At this rate, if Tropico are last then they will get less extra credits then the forementioned teams.

It is like middle class families claiming child support and using it to buy Wine and alcohol as they just happen to have a couple of kids, when a single mother is desperately trying to house, feed and cloth their single child with less money...

I just feel there should be either...

1 - A cut off points, so if you score 7 points or more then you get no points and points will be adwarded retroactively. So the top 3 finishes that Sunshine and MRT had would just be ignored.

2 - A minimum number of prequalifying performances. Maybe a team should only score points if they prequalify more then 4 times. That way it will stop teams who have crappy qualifying and end up in PQ a few times from scoring points.

As a team in this cup, I just feel it is wrong that Sunshine should get extra credits for having to prequalify after one bad qualifying session in a race that we scored points in.

[Aerond]

Well I just feel that credits should not go to teams who will get a bunch of points in the main championship. Do MRT, Sunshine and Jones who will all end in the top 10 get extra credits? At this rate, if Tropico are last then they will get less extra credits then the forementioned teams.

It is like middle class families claiming child support and using it to buy Wine and alcohol as they just happen to have a couple of kids, when a single mother is desperately trying to house, feed and cloth their single child with less money...

I just feel there should be either...

1 - A cut off points, so if you score 7 points or more then you get no points and points will be adwarded retroactively. So the top 3 finishes that Sunshine and MRT had would just be ignored.

2 - A minimum number of prequalifying performances. Maybe a team should only score points if they prequalify more then 4 times. That way it will stop teams who have crappy qualifying and end up in PQ a few times from scoring points.

As a team in this cup, I just feel it is wrong that Sunshine should get extra credits for having to prequalify after one bad qualifying session in a race that we scored points in.

I like more number 2. 4 times seems a right number (Teams must run in PreQ 4 or more times during a season to enter the PreQualifying cup). Anyway, the position these teams ocuppy during a session won´t be replaced. Let´s say if Jones run 1 PreQ and they manage a 1-2, these points won´t be awarded to anybody else if Jones doesn´t qualify for the PreQ cup at the end of the year.

[Shizuka]

That 4x Preq rule sounds good, but then someone will need to keep track of this.

[Aerond]

That 4x Preq rule sounds good, but then someone will need to keep track of this.

I suggest AdrainSutil to put an (*) in the standings to those teams which haven´t raced at 4 PreQ events yet.

By the way, this is price money awarded to PreQ cup winners:

Winner - 150 credits
2nd - 100 credits
3rd - 75 credits
4th - 50 credits
5th - 30 credits
6th - 20 credits
every other team - 10 credits

[AdrianSutil]

Right, all teams will still be able to score, but as soon as a team fails to reach the magic 4 pre-qualifying slot, they lose all points gained so far. If said team then competes for the fifth time, they are unable to claim the points. I think that if they do finish in the top 10 on their fifth pre-qualifying, points should still be moved down to the next set of drivers (as in, 11th and 12th if Jones score a 1-4 for example), that gives teams like Shonan and Tropico a chance to score a few points and maybe get higher up the Cup standings.

Actually, thinking about it, I'd like that reversed. After a team competes in main qualifying for 4 rounds, they are no longer able to score. Teams at the very back of pre-qualifying would still be lucky to beat MRT, Foxdale, Phoenix etc with their score already. Plus, as the season rolls on, more and more teams would be dropping out, giving the smaller teams a better chance.

That's my proposed idea, what do you guys think? Pre-qualifying 4 times or main qualifying 4 times?

[Shizuka]

Combine the both, if they do qualify from prequalifying, they shouldn't be able to score.
If they partake in the pre-qualify four times at least, they are able to score, but to no avail if they do qualify four times.

...I swear, that is a logic breaker...

[Nessafox]

it is getting slightly complicated, truth be told.

[Aerond]

I´d just KEEP IT SIMPLE.
It´s as easy as marking each team in the classification which haven´t reached 4 PreQ rounds. Just that. If that team fails to reach it, then that team isn´t countable for the final classification, but positions shouldn´t be moved or changed or points awarded to teams below. Really. No team will lose points for nor reaching the magic number, they just won´t qualify for credits.
Something like this, for example. (with (*) teams which haven´t reached 4 PreQ rounds)

1.Acuri -- 75 pts
2. Phoenix -- 50 pts
3. Sunshine -- 20 pts (*)
4. Shonan -- 12 pts
5. Mecha -- 9 pts (*)
6. Prospec -- 5 pts

---- Then final credits would be awarded to Acuri, Phoenix, Shonan and Prospec in that order, without recalculating points or positions or whatever. Just KEEP IT SIMPLE. Is not fair for smaller teams to consistently earn more points because they failed to do better in pre-qualifying. Ditching teams for not reaching a certain number of PreQ sessions is enough.

[AdrianSutil]

Yeah that's good enough so that's what I'll do.

[AdrianSutil]

Pre-Qualifying changed.

After talks between several teams about the points system, with the biggest concern being the better teams also scoring, a new rule has been implemented with immediate effect. Teams that fail to reach at least 4 pre-qualifying session's throughout the year will have their points taken away and will not recieve any money. Teams such as MRT and Foxdale have a healthy point total already, despite only taking part in one session. The rule has been approved by the F1RWRS Committee and will count all 16 races of the year.

[AdrianSutil]

Round 5: Long Beach GP - USA

Weather Forecast: Dry all weekend

1. Andrea Acuri (Acuri) -- 1.15.686 - 10 points
2. Daniel Melrose (Jones) -- 1.15.936 (+0.250) - 8 points
3. Sammy Jones (Jones) -- 1.15.969 (+0.283) - 6 points
4. Jean Luc Schiller (Prospec) -- 1.16.206 (+0.520) - 5 points
5. David Neuberg (Mitie) -- 1.16.411 (+0.725) - 4 points
6. Ron Mignolet (Acuri) -- 1.16.448 (+0.762) - 3 points
7. Gary Cameron (Prospec) -- 1.17.008 (+1.322) - 2 points
8. Saeed Al Faisal (Mecha) -- 1.17.288 (+1.602) - 1 point
9. Tomislaw Tajner (Dofasco) -- 1.17.445 (+1.759)
10. Francois Albertini (Shonan) -- 1.17.478 (+1.792)
11. Fredo Mestolio (Trueba) -- 1.17.485 (+1.799)
12. Matthias Valsattis (Mitie) -- 1.17.561 (+1.875)
13. Giovanni Roda (Trueba) -- 1.17.651 (+1.965)
14. James Davies (Mecha) -- 1.18.121 (+2.435)
15. Sebastian Groves (Dofasco) -- 1.18.733 (+3.047)
16. Miko Fakkinen (Tropico) -- 1.18.857 (+3.171)
17. Jason Van Dycke (Shonan) -- 1.19.011 (+3.325)
18. Darren Older Jr (Tropico) -- 1.21.406 (+5.720)

Andrea Acuri collected maximum points today, with the Castrol Jones cars in 2nd and 3rd. Prospec entered their 2nd pre-qualifying round, with Schiller setting the 4th fastest time and team-mate Cameron back in 7th. One of the biggest shocks was the excellent performance by debutant David Neuberg. The Mitie Aviation car popped up early in the top 3 before falling back to a morale-boosting 5th. As Neuberg also brings much-needed funds to the team, has Mr.Alexander uncovered a gem of a driver? Mignolet picked up 3 points for Acuri with the 6th fastest time, whilst Al Faisal completed the top 8, 1.6 seconds behind Acuri. Outside the points, both Valsattis and Van Dycke struggled with grip, setting times well off the pace. Tropico again struggled, but Older Jr was only 5.7 seconds off the pace, so there has been improvement. 

Pre-Qualifying Cup Standings - Round 5:

Teams marked with * have yet to compete in 4 pre-qualifying rounds

1. Acuri - 50pts
2. Phoenix - 35pts
3. Trueba - 20pts
4. Sunshine - 16pts*
=. Foxdale - 16pts*
6. MRT - 15pts*
7. Jones - 14pts*
8. Prospec - 12pts*
9. Dofasco - 7pts
10. Mitie - 6pts
11. Mecha - 4pts

[AdrianSutil]

Round Six: Monte Carlo GP - Monaco

Weather forecast: dry


1. Phoenix McAllister (Phoenix) -- 1.28.169 - 10 points
2. Fredo Mestolio (Trueba) -- 1.28.653 (+0.484) - 8 points
3. Jean Luc Schiller (Prospec) -- 1.28.958 (+0.789) - 6 points
4. Ron Mignolet (Acuri) -- 1.29.093 (+0.924) - 5 points
5. James Davies (Mecha) -- 1.29.223 (+1.054) - 4 points
6. Matthias Valsattis (Mitie) -- 1.29.365 (+1.196) - 3 points
7. Gary Cameron (Prospec) -- 1.29.439 (+1.270) - 2 points
8. Andrea Acuri (Acuri) -- 1.29.615 (+1.446) - 1 point
9. Sebastian Groves (Dofasco) -- 1.29.663 (+1.494)
10. Saeed Al Faisal (Mecha) -- 1.29.797 (+1.628)
11. The Stig (Phoenix) -- 1.29.833 (+1.664)
12. David Neuberg (Mitie) -- 1.29.971 (+1.802)
13. Gio Van Dycke (Shonan) -- 1.30.229 (+2.060)
14. Tomislaw Tajner (Dofasco) -- 1.30.938 (+2.769)
15. Giovanni Roda (Trueba) -- 1.31.122 (+2.953)
16. Fracois Albertini (Shonan) -- 1.31.241 (+3.072)
17. Miko Fakkinen (Tropico) -- 1.31.729 (+3.560)
18. Darren Older Jr (Tropico) -- 1.34.871 (+6.702)

After missing the previous round, Phoenix made a successful return to pre-qualifying, with McAllister setting the fastest time and collecting the full 10 points. Mestolio impressed for Trueba, finishing the session in 2nd, with Schiller of Pemberton Prospec in 3rd. The Prospec team have now competed in 3 pre-qualifying events, and only one more will see them claim the points and money. Acrui had a difficult session for a change, Mignolet in 4th and Andrea Acuri scraping into 8th. Davies and Valsattis picked up valuable points for Mecha and Mitie with 5th and 6th. Gary Cameron finished the day 7th. Of the rest, The Stig was poor in 11th, Neuberg didn't repeat his heroics and was 12th whilst Tropico again remained on the back row. 

Pre-Qualifying Cup Standings - Round 6:

Teams marked with an * have yet to compete in 4 pre-qualifying rounds. 

1. Acuri - 56pts
2. Phoenix - 45pts
3. Trueba - 28pts
4. Prospec - 20pts*
5. Sunshine - 16pts*
=. Foxdale - 16pts*
7. MRT - 15pts*
8. Jones - 14pts*
9. Mitie -9pts
10. Mecha - 8pts
11. Dofasco - 7pts    

[DemocalypseNow]

I haz question;

Will Scuderia Trueba Alitalia inherit Trueba Racing Team's 28 points?

[TomWazzleshaw]

I haz question;

Will Scuderia Trueba Alitalia inherit Trueba Racing Team's 28 points?

I'ld assume so since it's technically still the same team despite the owner change.

[AdrianSutil]

I haz question;

Will Scuderia Trueba Alitalia inherit Trueba Racing Team's 28 points?

I'ld assume so since it's technically still the same team despite the owner change.

Yeah. Same for the other team going through a takeover, which I believe was Shonan. Scuderia Alitalia take over from where Trueba left off. Ill keep it simple and keep the Trueba name as it is until next year.

[Shizuka]

Shonan is a new team, not a take over. And I don't think I want to let it already go...