F1WRCR 1952 season - driver ratings up!

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F1WRCR 1952 season - driver ratings up!

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1950: http://f1rejects.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4410
1951: http://f1rejects.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4682

Since the calendar seems to be solid, I'll post the thread. Only ART voted on the entry proposal, so the number of allowed entries will be in this post, as well as the entry list. As for the Italian Grand Prix, there is no limit to the size of the entry lists, and if the number of entrants passes the number of starters plus ten, pre-qualifying will be run.

Here is the calendar:
May 18th - Monaco Grand Prix (Monaco)
June 1st - English Grand Prix (Donington)
June 22nd - Belgian Grand Prix (Spa-Francorchamps)
July 6th - French Grand Prix (Rouen-les-Essarts)
July 19th - British Grand Prix (Silverstone)
August 3rd - German Grand Prix (Nürburgring)
August 17th - Dutch Grand Prix (Zandvoort)
September 7th - Italian Grand Prix (Monza)
October 5th - United States Grand Prix (Sebring)
November 2nd - Australian Grand Prix (Leyburn)

For the first time, two races are held in the same country, with Donington serving as English Grand Prix while Silverstone retains the British Grand Prix. The French Grand Prix moves to Rouen-les-Essarts, in Normandy, and two flyaway races will end the season, the first at Sebring in Florida, effectively replacing the Indianapolis 500 as American round, and an Australian Grand Prix at the Leyburn airfield circuit.

These are the entries given to the entrants this year (I'm assuming Officine Alfieri Maserati are the continuation of SPV):
Scuderia Ferrari - 30
Alfa Romeo SpA - 30
Garage Francorchamps (formerly ENB) - 30
Alexander Racing Team - 27
Motorsport Bleu - 27
Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing - 27
Scuderia Maremmana - 24
Ferrari America - 24
Team Metcalf GP - 24
Scuderia Ambrosiana - 21
Redman Racing Team - 21
Claes Racing Developments - 21
Phoenix Racing Organisation - 18
Scuderia Commesso - 18
Officine Alfieri Maserati (formerly Scuderia Platé-Varzi) - 18
Tony Gaze - 15
British Bentley Racing Motors (formerly BRM and Bentley) - 15
Ecurie Albertini - 15
Rudolf Caracciola - 12
Hampshire Racing Alliance - 12
Louis Gérard - 12
Team Bentley - 9
Aldo Gordini - 9
Graham Whitehead - 9
Daily Express - 6
All-Ireland Motorsport - 6
Mike Hawthorn - 6
Geoff Richardson - 3
Maria Teresa de Filippis - 3
OSCA Automobili - 3
Other new teams - 3

Teams and drivers
All-Ireland Motorsport
Joe Kelly (IRL) - England, Belgium, France, Britain, Germany, Italy

Motorsport Bleu
B. Bira (THA) - All
André Simon (FRA) - Monaco, England, Belgium, France, Britain, Netherlands, Italy
Harry Schell (USA) - Belgium, France, Germany, Netherlands, Italy
Tony Rolt (GBR) - England, Britain
Günther Bechem (GER) - Germany
John Fitch (USA) - USA
Lex Davison (AUS) - Australia

Scuderia Commesso
Louis Chiron (MON) - All
Dries van der Lof (NED) - Belgium, Netherlands
Tony Gaze (AUS) - Australia
Rudi Fischer (SUI) - Germany


Scuderia Ferrari
Dorino Serafini (ITA) - All
Toulo de Graffenried (SUI) - All except Belgium
Reg Parnell (GBR) - England, Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, USA, Australia
Peter Whitehead (GBR) - Monaco, Belgium, Britain, Netherlands

Ecurie Australie
Doug Whiteford (AUS) - Australia
Jack Brabham (AUS) - Australia
David McKay (AUS) - Australia

British Bentley Racing Motors
Geoff Richardson (GBR) - England, Britain, Germany, USA, Australia
Mike Hawthorn (GBR) - Belgium, France, Britain, Italy, USA
Roy Salvadori (GBR) - Britain, Germany, Netherlands, USA


Hampshire Racing Alliance
David Hampshire (GBR) - Monaco, England, Belgium, France, Britain, Germany, Netherlands, Italy
John Riseley-Prichard (GBR) - England, Netherlands
Ken Downing (GBR) - Netherlands, Italy

Alexander Racing Team
Robert Manzon (FRA) - All
Consalvo Sanesi (ITA) - All
Aldo Gordini (FRA) - Monaco, France
TBA (GBR) - TBA


Claes Racing Developments
Lance Macklin (GBR) - All
Johnny Claes (BEL) - All


Groupe Ultimate
Ferrari America
Harry Schell (USA) - Monaco, England, Britain, USA, Australia
Troy Ruttman (USA) - All
Peter Whitehead (GBR) - Italy

Team Ultimate
Edgar Barth (GER) - Belgium, France, Britain, Germany, Netherlands, Italy, USA, Australia

Leader
Luigi Villoresi (GBR) - Monaco, Belgium, Britain

Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing
Piero Taruffi (ITA) - All
José Froilan Gonzalez (ARG) - Monaco, England, Belgium, France, Britain, Italy, USA, Australia
Tony Bettenhausen (USA) - Germany, Netherlands, Italy, USA, Australia
Maurice Trintignant (FRA) - Australia


The Fighting Mongooses
Jean Behra (FRA) - Belgium, France, Britain

Birmingham Motorsports
Ken Wharton (GBR) - England, Britain, Netherlands

Erne Racing Development
Roberto Mieres (ARG) - Belgium, Britain, Germany

Scuderia Aqua
Piero Carini (ITA) - Monaco, Italy


Phoenix Racing Organisation
Alberto Ascari (ITA) - All


Officine Alfieri Maserati
Paul Frère (BEL) - Monaco, England, France, Britain, Germany, Netherlands, Italy, Australia
Onofre Marimon (ARG) - Monaco, England, Belgium, France, Britain
Chico Landi (BRA) - Germany, Italy
Marcel Balsa (FRA) - Netherlands, Australia
Maurice Trintignant (FRA) - USA

Scuderia Maremmana
Clemente Biondetti (ITA) - Monaco, England, Germany, Italy
Manfred von Brauchitsch (GER) - Monaco, England, Germany, Italy
Eric Brandon (GBR) - Monaco, England, Germany, Italy, Australia
Warwick Pratley (AUS) - Australia
John McMillan (NZL) - Australia


Garage Francorchamps
Bugatti Grand Prix
Maurice Trintignant (FRA) - Monaco, England, Belgium, France, Britain, Netherlands, Italy
André Pilette (BEL) - England, Belgium, France, Britain, Germany, Netherlands, Italy
Eugène Chaboud (FRA) - Monaco, France
Jean Behra (FRA) - Germany

Ecurie Nationale Belge
André Pilette (BEL) - Monaco
Jacques Swaters (BEL) - England, Belgium, Britain, Germany, Italy
Paul Frère (BEL) - Belgium
Roger Laurent (BEL) - France
Jan Flinterman (NED) - Netherlands
Charles de Tornaco (BEL) - Italy
Charles Van Acker (BEL) - USA

Redman Racing Team
Nello Pagani (ITA) - All
Stan Jones (AUS) - Australia


Scuderia Ambrosiana
Giovanni Bracco (ITA) - All
Porfirio Rubirosa (DOM) - All
Giovanni Lurani (ITA) - Italy

OSCA Automobili
Felice Bonetto (ITA) - Belgium, Germany, Italy

Maria Teresa de Filippis
Maria Teresa de Filippis (ITA) - Belgium, Italy, USA

Alfa Romeo SpA
Giuseppe Farina (ITA) - All
Juan Manuel Fangio (ARG) - All
Stirling Moss (GBR) - All

International Racing Group
Rudi Fischer (SUI) - Monaco, Belgium, France

Fritz Riess Motorenbau
Fritz Riess (GER) - Germany
Toni Ulmen (GER) - Germany
Helmut Niedermayr (GER) - Germany

Entry lists
Monaco Grand Prix - 20 starters
1. B. Bira (Motorsport Bleu)
2. André Simon (Motorsport Bleu)
3. Louis Chiron (Scuderia Commesso)
4. Toulo de Graffenried (Scuderia Ferrari)
5. Dorino Serafini (Scuderia Ferrari)
6. Peter Whitehead (Scuderia Ferrari)
7. David Hampshire (Hampshire Racing Alliance)
8. Robert Manzon (Alexander Racing Team)
9. Consalvo Sanesi (Alexander Racing Team)
10. Johnny Claes (Claes Racing Developments)
11. Lance Macklin (Claes Racing Developments)
12. Harry Schell (Ferrari America)
13. Troy Ruttman (Ferrari America)
14. Luigi Villoresi (Leader)
15. José Froilan Gonzalez (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
16. Piero Taruffi (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
17. Piero Carini (Scuderia Aqua)
18. Alberto Ascari (Phoenix Racing Organisation)
19. Paul Frère (Officine Alfieri Maserati)
20. Onofre Marimon (Officine Alfieri Maserati)
21. Clemente Biondetti (Scuderia Maremmana)
22. Manfred von Brauchitsch (Scuderia Maremmana)
23. Eric Brandon (Scuderia Maremmana)
24. Aldo Gordini (Alexander Racing Team)
25. Maurice Trintignant (Bugatti Grand Prix)
26. Eugène Chaboud (Bugatti Grand Prix)
27. André Pilette (Ecurie Nationale Belge)
28. Nello Pagani (Redman Racing Team)
29. Giovanni Bracco (Scuderia Ambrosiana)
30. Porfirio Rubirosa (Scuderia Ambrosiana)
31. Giuseppe Farina (Alfa Romeo SpA)
32. Juan Manuel Fangio (Alfa Romeo SpA)
33. Stirling Moss (Alfa Romeo SpA)
34. Rudi Fischer (International Racing Group)

English Grand Prix - 24 starters
1. Joe Kelly (All-Ireland Motorsport)
2. B. Bira (Motorsport Bleu)
3. André Simon (Motorsport Bleu)
4. Tony Rolt (Motorsport Bleu)
5. Louis Chiron (Scuderia Commesso)
6. Toulo de Graffenried (Scuderia Ferrari)
7. Dorino Serafini (Scuderia Ferrari)
8. Reg Parnell (Scuderia Ferrari)
9. Geoff Richardson (Team Bentley)
10. David Hampshire (Hampshire Racing Alliance)
11. Robert Manzon (Alexander Racing Team)
12. Consalvo Sanesi (Alexander Racing Team)
13. Johnny Claes (Claes Racing Developments)
14. Lance Macklin (Claes Racing Developments)
15. Harry Schell (Ferrari America)
16. Troy Ruttman (Ferrari America)
17. José Froilan Gonzalez (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
18. Piero Taruffi (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
19. Ken Wharton (Birmingham Motorsports)
20. Paul Frère (Officine Alfieri Maserati)
21. Onofre Marimon (Officine Alfieri Maserati)
22. Clemente Biondetti (Scuderia Maremmana)
23. Manfred von Brauchitsch (Scuderia Maremmana)
24. Eric Brandon (Scuderia Maremmana)
25. Maurice Trintignant (Bugatti Grand Prix)
26. André Pilette (Bugatti Grand Prix)
27. Jacques Swaters (Ecurie Nationale Belge)
28. Nello Pagani (Redman Racing Team)
29. Giovanni Bracco (Scuderia Ambrosiana)
30. Porfirio Rubirosa (Scuderia Ambrosiana)
31. Giuseppe Farina (Alfa Romeo SpA)
32. Juan Manuel Fangio (Alfa Romeo SpA)
33. Stirling Moss (Alfa Romeo SpA)
34. Alberto Ascari (Phoenix Racing Organisation)
35. John Riseley-Prichard (Hampshire Racing Alliance)

Belgian Grand Prix - 34 starters
1. Joe Kelly (All-Ireland Motorsport)
2. B. Bira (Motorsport Bleu)
3. Harry Schell (Motorsport Bleu)
4. André Simon (Motorsport Bleu)
5. Louis Chiron (Scuderia Commesso)
6. Dries van der Lof (Scuderia Commesso)
7. Reg Parnell (Scuderia Ferrari)
8. Dorino Serafini (Scuderia Ferrari)
9. Peter Whitehead (Scuderia Ferrari)
10. Mike Hawthorn (Team Bentley)
11. David Hampshire (Hampshire Racing Alliance)
12. Robert Manzon (Alexander Racing Team)
13. Consalvo Sanesi (Alexander Racing Team)
14. Johnny Claes (Claes Racing Developments)
15. Lance Macklin (Claes Racing Developments)
16. Troy Ruttman (Ferrari America)
17. Luigi Villoresi (Leader)
18. José Froilan Gonzalez (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
19. Piero Taruffi (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
20. Jean Behra (The Fighting Mongooses)
21. Roberto Mieres (Erne Racing Development)
22. Edgar Barth (Team Ultimate)
23. Onofre Marimon (Officine Alfieri Maserati)
24. Maurice Trintignant (Bugatti Grand Prix)
25. André Pilette (Bugatti Grand Prix)
26. Paul Frère (Ecurie Nationale Belge)
27. Jacques Swaters (Ecurie Nationale Belge)
28. Nello Pagani (Redman Racing Team)
29. Giovanni Bracco (Scuderia Ambrosiana)
30. Porfirio Rubirosa (Scuderia Ambrosiana)
31. Felice Bonetto (OSCA Automobili)
32. Maria Teresa de Filippis (Privateer)
33. Giuseppe Farina (Alfa Romeo SpA)
34. Juan Manuel Fangio (Alfa Romeo SpA)
35. Stirling Moss (Alfa Romeo SpA)
36. Alberto Ascari (Phoenix Racing Organisation)
37. Rudi Fischer (International Racing Group)

French Grand Prix - 24 starters
1. Joe Kelly (All-Ireland Motorsport)
2. B. Bira (Motorsport Bleu)
3. Harry Schell (Motorsport Bleu)
4. André Simon (Motorsport Bleu)
5. Louis Chiron (Scuderia Commesso)
6. Toulo de Graffenried (Scuderia Ferrari)
7. Dorino Serafini (Scuderia Ferrari)
8. Reg Parnell (Scuderia Ferrari)
9. Mike Hawthorn (British Bentley Racing Motors)
10. David Hampshire (Hampshire Racing Alliance)
11. Robert Manzon (Alexander Racing Team)
12. Consalvo Sanesi (Alexander Racing Team)
13. Johnny Claes (Claes Racing Developments)
14. Lance Macklin (Claes Racing Developments)
15. Troy Ruttman (Ferrari America)
16. José Froilan Gonzalez (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
17. Piero Taruffi (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
18. Jean Behra (The Fighting Mongooses)
19. Edgar Barth (Team Ultimate)
20. Paul Frère (Officine Alfieri Maserati)
21. Onofre Marimon (Officine Alfieri Maserati)
22. Aldo Gordini (Alexander Racing Team)
23. Maurice Trintignant (Bugatti Grand Prix)
24. Eugène Chaboud (Bugatti Grand Prix)
25. Roger Laurent (Ecurie Nationale Belge)
26. Nello Pagani (Redman Racing Team)
27. Giovanni Bracco (Scuderia Ambrosiana)
28. Porfirio Rubirosa (Scuderia Ambrosiana)
29. Giuseppe Farina (Alfa Romeo SpA)
30. Juan Manuel Fangio (Alfa Romeo SpA)
31. Stirling Moss (Alfa Romeo SpA)
32. Alberto Ascari (Phoenix Racing Organisation)
33. Rudi Fischer (International Racing Group)
34. André Pilette (Bugatti Grand Prix)

British Grand Prix - 22 starters
1. Joe Kelly (All-Ireland Motorsport)
2. B. Bira (Motorsport Bleu)
3. André Simon (Motorsport Bleu)
4. Tony Rolt (Motorsport Bleu)
5. Louis Chiron (Scuderia Commesso)
6. Toulo de Graffenried (Scuderia Ferrari)
7. Dorino Serafini (Scuderia Ferrari)
8. Peter Whitehead (Scuderia Ferrari)
9. Geoff Richardson (British Bentley Racing Motors)
10. Mike Hawthorn (British Bentley Racing Motors)
11. Roy Salvadori (British Bentley Racing Motors)
12. David Hampshire (Hampshire Racing Alliance)
13. Robert Manzon (Alexander Racing Team)
14. Consalvo Sanesi (Alexander Racing Team)
15. Johnny Claes (Claes Racing Developments)
16. Lance Macklin (Claes Racing Developments)
17. Harry Schell (Ferrari America)
18. Troy Ruttman (Ferrari America)
19. Luigi Villoresi (Leader)
20. José Froilan Gonzalez (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
21. Piero Taruffi (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
22. Jean Behra (The Fighting Mongooses)
23. Ken Wharton (Birmingham Motorsports)
24. Roberto Mieres (Erne Racing Development)
25. Edgar Barth (Team Ultimate)
26. Paul Frère (Officine Alfieri Maserati)
27. Onofre Marimon (Officine Alfieri Maserati)
28. Maurice Trintignant (Bugatti Grand Prix)
29. André Pilette (Bugatti Grand Prix)
30. Jacques Swaters (Ecurie Nationale Belge)
31. Nello Pagani (Redman Racing Team)
32. Giovanni Bracco (Scuderia Ambrosiana)
33. Porfirio Rubirosa (Scuderia Ambrosiana)
34. Giuseppe Farina (Alfa Romeo SpA)
35. Juan Manuel Fangio (Alfa Romeo SpA)
36. Stirling Moss (Alfa Romeo SpA)
37. Alberto Ascari (Phoenix Racing Organisation)

German Grand Prix - 34 starters
1. Joe Kelly (All-Ireland Motorsport)
2. B. Bira (Motorsport Bleu)
3. Harry Schell (Motorsport Bleu)
4. Günther Bechem (Motorsport Bleu)
5. Louis Chiron (Scuderia Commesso)
6. Rudi Fischer (Scuderia Commesso)
7. Toulo de Graffenried (Scuderia Ferrari)
8. Dorino Serafini (Scuderia Ferrari)
9. Reg Parnell (Scuderia Ferrari)
10. Geoff Richardson (British Bentley Racing Motors)
11. Roy Salvadori (British Bentley Racing Motors)
12. David Hampshire (Hampshire Racing Alliance)
13. Robert Manzon (Alexander Racing Team)
14. Consalvo Sanesi (Alexander Racing Team)
15. Johnny Claes (Claes Racing Developments)
16. Lance Macklin (Claes Racing Developments)
17. Troy Ruttman (Ferrari America)
18. Tony Bettenhausen (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
19. Piero Taruffi (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
20. Roberto Mieres (Erne Racing Development)
21. Edgar Barth (Team Ultimate)
22. Paul Frère (Officine Alfieri Maserati)
23. Chico Landi (Officine Alfieri Maserati)
24. Clemente Biondetti (Scuderia Maremmana)
25. Manfred von Brauchitsch (Scuderia Maremmana)
26. Eric Brandon (Scuderia Maremmana)
27. Jean Behra (Bugatti Grand Prix)
28. André Pilette (Bugatti Grand Prix)
29. Jacques Swaters (Ecurie Nationale Belge)
30. Nello Pagani (Redman Racing Team)
31. Giovanni Bracco (Scuderia Ambrosiana)
32. Porfirio Rubirosa (Scuderia Ambrosiana)
33. Felice Bonetto (OSCA Automobili)
34. Giuseppe Farina (Alfa Romeo SpA)
35. Juan Manuel Fangio (Alfa Romeo SpA)
36. Stirling Moss (Alfa Romeo SpA)
37. Alberto Ascari (Phoenix Racing Organisation)
38. Fritz Riess (Fritz Riess Motorenbau)
39. Toni Ulmen (Fritz Riess Motorenbau)
40. Helmut Niedermayr (Fritz Riess Motorenbau)

Dutch Grand Prix - 22 starters
1. B. Bira (Motorsport Bleu)
2. Harry Schell (Motorsport Bleu)
3. Louis Chiron (Scuderia Commesso)
4. Dries van der Lof (Scuderia Commesso)
5. Toulo de Graffenried (Scuderia Ferrari)
6. Dorino Serafini (Scuderia Ferrari)
7. Peter Whitehead (Scuderia Ferrari)
8. David Hampshire (Hampshire Racing Alliance)
9. Robert Manzon (Alexander Racing Team)
10. Consalvo Sanesi (Alexander Racing Team)
11. Johnny Claes (Claes Racing Developments)
12. Lance Macklin (Claes Racing Developments)
13. Troy Ruttman (Ferrari America)
14. Tony Bettenhausen (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
15. Piero Taruffi (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
16. Ken Wharton (Birmingham Motorsports)
17. Edgar Barth (Team Ultimate)
18. Paul Frère (Officine Alfieri Maserati)
19. Marcel Balsa (Officine Alfieri Maserati)
20. Maurice Trintignant (Bugatti Grand Prix)
21. André Pilette (Bugatti Grand Prix)
22. Jan Flinterman (Ecurie Nationale Belge)
23. Nello Pagani (Redman Racing Team)
24. Giovanni Bracco (Scuderia Ambrosiana)
25. Porfirio Rubirosa (Scuderia Ambrosiana)
26. Giuseppe Farina (Alfa Romeo SpA)
27. Juan Manuel Fangio (Alfa Romeo SpA)
28. Stirling Moss (Alfa Romeo SpA)
29. André Simon (Motorsport Bleu)
30. Alberto Ascari (Phoenix Racing Organisation)
31. Roy Salvadori (British Bentley Racing Motors)
32. John Riseley-Prichard (Hampshire Racing Alliance)
33. Ken Downing (Hampshire Racing Alliance)

Italian Grand Prix - 26 starters
1. Joe Kelly (All-Ireland Motorsport)
2. B. Bira (Motorsport Bleu)
3. Harry Schell (Motorsport Bleu)
4. André Simon (Motorsport Bleu)
5. Louis Chiron (Scuderia Commesso)
6. Toulo de Graffenried (Scuderia Ferrari)
7. Dorino Serafini (Scuderia Ferrari)
8. Reg Parnell (Scuderia Ferrari)
9. David Hampshire (Hampshire Racing Alliance)
10. Robert Manzon (Alexander Racing Team)
11. Consalvo Sanesi (Alexander Racing Team)
12. Johnny Claes (Claes Racing Developments)
13. Lance Macklin (Claes Racing Developments)
14. Peter Whitehead (Ferrari America)
15. Troy Ruttman (Ferrari America)
16. José Froilan Gonzalez (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
17. Piero Taruffi (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
18. Piero Carini (Scuderia Aqua)
19. Edgar Barth (Team Ultimate)
20. Paul Frère (Officine Alfieri Maserati)
21. Chico Landi (Officine Alfieri Maserati)
22. Clemente Biondetti (Scuderia Maremmana)
23. Manfred von Brauchitsch (Scuderia Maremmana)
24. Eric Brandon (Scuderia Maremmana)
25. Maurice Trintignant (Bugatti Grand Prix)
26. André Pilette (Bugatti Grand Prix)
27. Charles de Tornaco (Ecurie Nationale Belge)
28. Nello Pagani (Redman Racing Team)
29. Giovanni Bracco (Scuderia Ambrosiana)
30. Porfirio Rubirosa (Scuderia Ambrosiana)
31. Giovanni Lurani (Scuderia Ambrosiana)
32. Felice Bonetto (OSCA Automobili)
33. Maria Teresa de Filippis (Privateer)
34. Giuseppe Farina (Alfa Romeo SpA)
35. Juan Manuel Fangio (Alfa Romeo SpA)
36. Stirling Moss (Alfa Romeo SpA)
37. Alberto Ascari (Phoenix Racing Organisation)
38. Jacques Swaters (Ecurie Nationale Belge)
39. Mike Hawthorn (British Bentley Racing Motors)
40. Ken Downing (Hampshire Racing Alliance)
41. Tony Bettenhausen (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)

United States Grand Prix - 30 starters
1. B. Bira (Motorsport Bleu)
2. John Fitch (Motorsport Bleu)
3. Louis Chiron (Scuderia Commesso)
4. Toulo de Graffenried (Scuderia Ferrari)
5. Dorino Serafini (Scuderia Ferrari)
6. Reg Parnell (Scuderia Ferrari)
7. Robert Manzon (Alexander Racing Team)
8. Consalvo Sanesi (Alexander Racing Team)
9. Lance Macklin (Claes Racing Developments)
10. Johnny Claes (Claes Racing Developments)
11. Harry Schell (Ferrari America)
12. Troy Ruttman (Ferrari America)
13. José Froilan Gonzalez (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
14. Piero Taruffi (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
15. Edgar Barth (Team Ultimate)
16. Maurice Trintignant (Officine Alfieri Maserati)
17. Charles Van Acker (Ecurie Nationale Belge)
18. Nello Pagani (Redman Racing Team)
19. Giovanni Bracco (Scuderia Ambrosiana)
20. Porfirio Rubirosa (Scuderia Ambrosiana)
21. Maria Teresa de Filippis (Privateer)
22. Giuseppe Farina (Alfa Romeo SpA)
23. Juan Manuel Fangio (Alfa Romeo SpA)
24. Stirling Moss (Alfa Romeo SpA)
25. Alberto Ascari (Phoenix Racing Organisation)
26. Mike Hawthorn (British Bentley Racing Motors)
27. Geoff Richardson (British Bentley Racing Motors)
28. Roy Salvadori (British Bentley Racing Motors)
29. Tony Bettenhausen (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)

Australian Grand Prix - 26 starters
1. B. Bira (Motorsport Bleu)
2. Lex Davison (Motorsport Bleu)
3. Louis Chiron (Scuderia Commesso)
4. Tony Gaze (Scuderia Commesso)
5. Toulo de Graffenried (Scuderia Ferrari)
6. Dorino Serafini (Scuderia Ferrari)
7. Reg Parnell (Scuderia Ferrari)
8. Doug Whiteford (Ecurie Australie)
9. Jack Brabham (Ecurie Australie)
10. David McKay (Ecurie Australie)
11. Robert Manzon (Alexander Racing Team)
12. Consalvo Sanesi (Alexander Racing Team)
13. Johnny Claes (Claes Racing Developments)
14. Lance Macklin (Claes Racing Developments)
15. Harry Schell (Ferrari America)
16. Troy Ruttman (Ferrari America)
17. José Froilan Gonzalez (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
18. Piero Taruffi (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
19. Edgar Barth (Team Ultimate)
20. Paul Frère (Officine Alfieri Maserati)
21. Warwick Pratley (Scuderia Maremmana)
22. John McMillan (Scuderia Maremmana)
23. Eric Brandon (Scuderia Maremmana)
24. Nello Pagani (Redman Racing Team)
25. Stan Jones (Redman Racing Team)
26. Giovanni Bracco (Scuderia Ambrosiana)
27. Porfirio Rubirosa (Scuderia Ambrosiana)
28. Giuseppe Farina (Alfa Romeo SpA)
29. Juan Manuel Fangio (Alfa Romeo SpA)
30. Stirling Moss (Alfa Romeo SpA)
31. Alberto Ascari (Phoenix Racing Organisation)
32. Geoff Richardson (British Bentley Racing Motors)
33. Tony Bettenhausen (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
34. Marcel Balsa (Officine Alfieri Maserati)
35. Maurice Trintignant (Jaguar - Aston Martin Racing)
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Re: Formula 1 - we recreate reality! 1952 season

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Henry Reatherson has decided to change to a customer ERA chassis after a complete failure of his previous attempt at trying to design a car.He still plans to keep the Maserati engine and Joe Kelly for the year.

Schedule for All-Ireland Motorsport:

June 2nd-English Grand Prix
June 22nd-Belgian Grand Prix
July 6th-French Grand Prix
July 19th-British Grand Prix
August 3rd-German Grand Prix
September 7th-Italian Grand Prix
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Re: Formula 1 - we recreate reality! 1952 season

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Schell set for Motorsport Bleu

American driver Harry Schell, 30, will drive for Motorsport Bleu on permanent basis next year. He will join B.Bira in the team for all 10 races confirmed.
For the third driver, team plans to rotate drivers. As the team is allowed to have third driver in seven races, only two drivers will participate in Monaco Grand Prix along with season-ending flyaway races.
At the moment, the team has confirmed only one such driver, with Günther Bechem taking part in German GP.
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I doubt Team Metcalf will return

Commesso roster:
Chiron will run all the races
Van der Lof will race at Zandvoort and Spa
Tony Gaze will race at Leyburn
Ottorino Volonterio will race in Germany
All depending on approval

Is it OK to enter a second constructor?
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Ferrari will continue they rotation policy. Serafini and de Graffenried will do all races, while Whitehead will compete at Monaco, Spa, Silverstone, Zandvoort and Sebring. Parnell will race at all others.
If possible, I'd also like to enter Ecurie Australie for the Australian GP, with Doug Whiteford, Jack Brabham and David McKay. Whiteford will drive a Talbot-Lago, while Brabham and McKay will drive HWMs with Alta engines.
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Is there a place for a new team? (and if there is a restriction rules for its name) ?
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Is Rudi Fischer available? I have a team idea for 1952
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Bentley will run Geoff Richardason for the ,English British and German Grand Prixs. For the Belgian and French GPs Mike Hawthorn will be in the var, and he will be join Geoof in a second car for Britain. Roy Salvadori will be in a third car for Britain and a secondcar for Germany
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WaffleCat wrote:Henry Reatherson has decided to change to a customer ERA chassis after a complete failure of his previous attempt at trying to design a car.He still plans to keep the Maserati engine and Joe Kelly for the year.

Schedule for All-Ireland Motorsport:

June 2nd-English Grand Prix
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September 7th-Italian Grand Prix

Kelly did an OK job last year, but it might not be enough. I'll let him in at Donington, and I'll see if it's enough for the rest of the season.

Bleu wrote:Schell set for Motorsport Bleu

American driver Harry Schell, 30, will drive for Motorsport Bleu on permanent basis next year. He will join B.Bira in the team for all 10 races confirmed.
For the third driver, team plans to rotate drivers. As the team is allowed to have third driver in seven races, only two drivers will participate in Monaco Grand Prix along with season-ending flyaway races.
At the moment, the team has confirmed only one such driver, with Günther Bechem taking part in German GP.

I'm not sure about Schell, Shadaza still has priority, but I'll enter him with a question mark.

eurobrun wrote:I doubt Team Metcalf will return

Commesso roster:
Chiron will run all the races
Van der Lof will race at Zandvoort and Spa
Tony Gaze will race at Leyburn
Ottorino Volonterio will race in Germany
All depending on approval

Is it OK to enter a second constructor?

I doubt it too, but that doesn't mean his entries are redistributed ;) As for your entries, approval will be given at the appropriate time, as usual.

You can enter a second constructor, but I'll limit users to a maximum of 6 cars per race.

the Masked Lapwing wrote:Ferrari will continue they rotation policy. Serafini and de Graffenried will do all races, while Whitehead will compete at Monaco, Spa, Silverstone, Zandvoort and Sebring. Parnell will race at all others.
If possible, I'd also like to enter Ecurie Australie for the Australian GP, with Doug Whiteford, Jack Brabham and David McKay. Whiteford will drive a Talbot-Lago, while Brabham and McKay will drive HWMs with Alta engines.

All good. We'll see later on if the drivers are good enough.

pycku wrote:Is there a place for a new team? (and if there is a restriction rules for its name) ?

There's always place for a new team, and as for name restrictions, just as long as it's not offensive, it's OK ;)

Grovey wrote:Is Rudi Fischer available? I have a team idea for 1952

Motorsport Bleu had him last year, but they haven't said anything about him for this year. I'd ask them, just in case.

pasta_maldonado wrote:Bentley will run Geoff Richardason for the ,English British and German Grand Prixs. For the Belgian and French GPs Mike Hawthorn will be in the var, and he will be join Geoof in a second car for Britain. Roy Salvadori will be in a third car for Britain and a secondcar for Germany

I believe Phoenix called dibs on Hawthorn for this year, but Richardson and Salvadori are good. For Hawthorn, I'll put him on the list with a question mark.
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As far as Jaguar-Aston Martin goes, all third-car entries will be managed by the Aston Martin side of the garage as they wish, assuming that they approve of the signing of Taruffi
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Hampshire Racing Alliance will only be contesting the European rounds of the championship. David Hampshire will be driving in all rounds. For the English and British Grands Prix, we may enter a few promising young drivers alongside David. Watch this space.
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ART-Gordini will be competing in all 10 rounds with Robert Manzon and Consalvo Sanesi. This has left 7 further entries for a British driver, once we find one that's good enough.
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Claes Racing Developments line-up to 1952 season
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Wizzie wrote:As far as Jaguar-Aston Martin goes, all third-car entries will be managed by the Aston Martin side of the garage as they wish, assuming that they approve of the signing of Taruffi

You still need to state your entries in this thread ;)

East Londoner wrote:Hampshire Racing Alliance will only be contesting the European rounds of the championship. David Hampshire will be driving in all rounds. For the English and British Grands Prix, we may enter a few promising young drivers alongside David. Watch this space.

That leaves you with four entries for those two races :)

AdrianSutil wrote:ART-Gordini will be competing in all 10 rounds with Robert Manzon and Consalvo Sanesi. This has left 7 further entries for a British driver, once we find one that's good enough.

No problem. I'll put all the ranked drivers in a list later today to help any indecisive teams. ;)
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Well, may we use fictional drivers? I'm thinking about entering as Vaillant with Michel Vaillant on the wheel.
Also what are the rules for engines and upgrades?

If fictional persons are not allowed I'll think of something else. Maybe Leader or Zvezda team with some real drivers.
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pycku wrote:Well, may we use fictional drivers? I'm thinking about entering as Vaillant with Michel Vaillant on the wheel.
Also what are the rules for engines and upgrades?

If fictional persons are not allowed I'll think of something else. Maybe Leader or Zvezda team with some real drivers.

Only the drivers have to be real. The constructors and teams do not, although creating your own constructor will probably lead to an epic fail which such large entry lists, and it took a miracle for Ambrosiana and Piero Taruffi for Metcalf to properly get off the ground.

In any case, you only get three entries for the whole season, so choose wisely.

As for engines and upgrades, engines are what you want them to be. Metcalf spent most of 1951 with their own engine, which ended up not being very good. There are no upgrades. You get better by getting better results.
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pycku wrote:Well, may we use fictional drivers? I'm thinking about entering as Vaillant with Michel Vaillant on the wheel.
Also what are the rules for engines and upgrades?

If fictional persons are not allowed I'll think of something else. Maybe Leader or Zvezda team with some real drivers.

Only the drivers have to be real. The constructors and teams do not, although creating your own constructor will probably lead to an epic fail which such large entry lists, and it took a miracle for Ambrosiana and Piero Taruffi for Metcalf to properly get off the ground.

In any case, you only get three entries for the whole season, so choose wisely.

As for engines and upgrades, engines are what you want them to be. Metcalf spent most of 1951 with their own engine, which ended up not being very good. There are no upgrades. You get better by getting better results.


And how can I get better results? :)

Okay, I see that Michel Vaillant will not debut. So we will enter as Leader. It seems we will be using one car and driver in 3 races, but who will be our driver and which tracks - we will announce later on (when I choose, as a matter of fact I don't know much of the drivers of the 50-es) :)
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pycku wrote:
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pycku wrote:Well, may we use fictional drivers? I'm thinking about entering as Vaillant with Michel Vaillant on the wheel.
Also what are the rules for engines and upgrades?

If fictional persons are not allowed I'll think of something else. Maybe Leader or Zvezda team with some real drivers.

Only the drivers have to be real. The constructors and teams do not, although creating your own constructor will probably lead to an epic fail which such large entry lists, and it took a miracle for Ambrosiana and Piero Taruffi for Metcalf to properly get off the ground.

In any case, you only get three entries for the whole season, so choose wisely.

As for engines and upgrades, engines are what you want them to be. Metcalf spent most of 1951 with their own engine, which ended up not being very good. There are no upgrades. You get better by getting better results.


And how can I get better results? :)

Okay, I see that Michel Vaillant will not debut. So we will enter as Leader. It seems we will be using one car and driver in 3 races, but who will be our driver and which tracks - we will announce later on (when I choose, as a matter of fact I don't know much of the drivers of the 50-es) :)

You get better results due to sheer dumb luck, really. A good place to start is to find a relatively good driver.
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I would still like to run Harry Schell at Ferrari America, but I would be willing to rotate him with Motor Sport Bleu.
I would also like to retain Troy Ruttman. Luigi Villoresi however will now become available as a free agent.

I do have some questions though, if I wish to enter a new team will it go right down to limited entries or could I share the entry numbers with Ferrari America? As I don't want to run 2+ Ferraris at every round this season I will end up with excess entries, Can entries be traded?

Regardless, I wish Harry Schell to race in Monaco for Ferrari America, more to be confirmed later.
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Okay, newly formed Leader team is happy to announce that we have contracted Alan Brown. We are racing in Monaco, Spa and Silverstone.
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Wizzie wrote:As far as Jaguar-Aston Martin goes, all third-car entries will be managed by the Aston Martin side of the garage as they wish, assuming that they approve of the signing of Taruffi


We approve with the signings of Jose Frolian Gonzalez and Piero Taruffi. This, assuming we are entering in all 10 races this year, will put our entries at 20/27. We will decide our third drivers (who will likely race the British rounds) at a later date.
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The Fighting Mongooses would like to field an entry at the Belgian, French, and British Grands Prix. The car and driver is to be confirmed, though we are looking into the availability of Peter Collins.
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Hmm, I guess I could join.

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The Lukas wrote:Claes Racing Developments line-up to 1952 season
Johnny Claes-Monaco GP,English GP,Belgian GP,French GP,British GP,German GP,Dutch GP,Italian GP,Australian GP
Lance Macklin-all races
Tony Bettenhausen-United States GP

Macklin was with SPv at Monza, but I don't think they'll keep him, so I'll let him stay.

Shadaza wrote:I would still like to run Harry Schell at Ferrari America, but I would be willing to rotate him with Motor Sport Bleu.
I would also like to retain Troy Ruttman. Luigi Villoresi however will now become available as a free agent.

I do have some questions though, if I wish to enter a new team will it go right down to limited entries or could I share the entry numbers with Ferrari America? As I don't want to run 2+ Ferraris at every round this season I will end up with excess entries, Can entries be traded?

Regardless, I wish Harry Schell to race in Monaco for Ferrari America, more to be confirmed later.

This will probably turn into a giant shitestorm...So, Schell to drive for Ferrari America at Monaco, I'll put a TBA on any other entries reserved for him.
I assume Ruttman stays for the whole season? As for creating a second team, you could trade entries, but you won't get the added three for a new entry, and it has to be considered the same team, so both of them will count as one team for the Entrants' Championship.

pycku wrote:Okay, newly formed Leader team is happy to announce that we have contracted Alan Brown. We are racing in Monaco, Spa and Silverstone.

No problem. For future reference, I assume both chassis and engine are Leader?

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Wizzie wrote:As far as Jaguar-Aston Martin goes, all third-car entries will be managed by the Aston Martin side of the garage as they wish, assuming that they approve of the signing of Taruffi


We approve with the signings of Jose Frolian Gonzalez and Piero Taruffi. This, assuming we are entering in all 10 races this year, will put our entries at 20/27. We will decide our third drivers (who will likely race the British rounds) at a later date.

At least you're clearer than last season :P

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:The Fighting Mongooses would like to field an entry at the Belgian, French, and British Grands Prix. The car and driver is to be confirmed, though we are looking into the availability of Peter Collins.

:lol: At the team name. As for Peter Collins, the works Maserati team are looking to run him for a few races...

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They will enter Ken Wharton for the English, British and Dutch Grands Prix.

Your entry is good, but Maserati stated that Wharton may drive a race or two for them...
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Maserati confirms the following line-up, pending FIA's full license approval for some drivers

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Onofre Marimón (if FIA gives him a license, for all races)
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Ultimate-BMW TO ENTER F1

Team Ultimate have decided to throw their hat in the ring and with BMW engines will launch a full season campaign in to F1.
There is no reason we can't win races immediately!

With the team's base in East Germany, the driver for the team will be East German championship front runner Edgar Barth.


Team Ultimate will build their own chassis and run a BMW 2.0 L6.
One car entry with Edgar Barth.

I hope this is all ok? Edgar Barth should be a high enough calibre to compete.
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tommykl wrote:No problem. For future reference, I assume both chassis and engine are Leader?
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We would use our own chassis - LF152, and we would like to use Ferrari engine.
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If theres a free spot, I would like to enter with ERD (Erne Racing Development). We would lke to enter the Belgian, British and German grands prix. We would like to enter Roberto Mieres in all 3 races, and if its ok, we would like to use an old Ferrari chassis and engine.
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After missing out first two seasons, I decide to join this. The team will be the Italian-based Scuderia Aqua, mainly from ashes that his Metcalf. They will take part in Monaco and Italy only. Pedro Carini will drove and the car will be a Maserati A6GCM. :)
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Birmingham Motorsports are delighted to hear that Ken Wharton is available to drive for them in the previously mentioned GPs. As for our engine, we're just going to have to make do with the standard Alta 1.5L straight-four engine.
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Phoenix Racing Organisation will keep Ferrari engines and Alberto Ascari, being partnered by Stirling Moss. We are going to enter races on a race-by-race basis. I thus submit here my entry for the first GP of the season.
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The Fighting Mongooses are now looking into the possibility of hiring Jean Behra. As for the car, we have decided to run a Cooper T20, powered by a 2-litre Bristol straight-6.
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FantometteBR wrote:Maserati confirms the following line-up, pending FIA's full license approval for some drivers

Paul Frére (all races bar Belgium)
Onofre Marimón (if FIA gives him a license, for all races)
Peter Collins (all races. If not allowed, he runs at Monaco, England, Britain, France, Italy and USA)
Hans von Stuck (Germany)
Brian Shawe-Taylor (England and Great Britain)
Chico Landi (Monaco, Belgium and Italy)
Manuel Ayulo (USA)
Ken Wharton (Australia)

The problem isn't your drivers, it's the number of entries. I counted 37, 33 for the reduced entries for Collins. You're only allowed 18 over the whole season, so I'll let you decide which entries you keep before I accept them. You still have priority over the drivers for the races you picked, though.

This means that Birmingham Motorsports are free to use Wharton, since he's not entered in those three races. The problematic driver was Collins, since the Fighting Mongooses were looking to hire him for Belgium, France and Britain, but since Behra is their new target, that's not a problem anymore.

Shadaza wrote:
Ultimate-BMW TO ENTER F1

Team Ultimate have decided to throw their hat in the ring and with BMW engines will launch a full season campaign in to F1.
There is no reason we can't win races immediately!

With the team's base in East Germany, the driver for the team will be East German championship front runner Edgar Barth.


Team Ultimate will build their own chassis and run a BMW 2.0 L6.
One car entry with Edgar Barth.

I hope this is all ok? Edgar Barth should be a high enough calibre to compete.

They'll have just three races, unless you're pairing the team with Ferrari America, in which case they'll only make up one entrant...

As for Barth, I'd say his results in the East German Championship aren't that impressive at this point. I'd say he'll be ready by Belgium.

Just like Maserati, the entry isn't accepted yet, but you have first pick on Barth.

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tommykl wrote:No problem. For future reference, I assume both chassis and engine are Leader?

We would use our own chassis - LF152, and we would like to use Ferrari engine.

No problem. Welcome to Formula 1!

takagi_for_the_win wrote:If theres a free spot, I would like to enter with ERD (Erne Racing Development). We would lke to enter the Belgian, British and German grands prix. We would like to enter Roberto Mieres in all 3 races, and if its ok, we would like to use an old Ferrari chassis and engine.

The entry is accepted. And it's ok to use old Ferraris, in fact they'll have the same level as works Ferraris :P

FMecha wrote:After missing out first two seasons, I decide to join this. The team will be the Italian-based Scuderia Aqua, mainly from ashes that his Metcalf. They will take part in Monaco and Italy only. Pedro Carini will drove and the car will be a Maserati A6GCM. :)

Are they taking over Metcalf's entry or is it another outfit completely? Oh, and I think you mean Piero Carini ;)

Nuppiz wrote:Birmingham Motorsports are delighted to hear that Ken Wharton is available to drive for them in the previously mentioned GPs. As for our engine, we're just going to have to make do with the standard Alta 1.5L straight-four engine.

Good luck for the upcoming season :)

Phoenix wrote:Phoenix Racing Organisation will keep Ferrari engines and Alberto Ascari, being partnered by Stirling Moss. We are going to enter races on a race-by-race basis. I thus submit here my entry for the first GP of the season.

No problem with Ascari, but I think Alfa Romeo want to keep Moss for this season...

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:The Fighting Mongooses are now looking into the possibility of hiring Jean Behra. As for the car, we have decided to run a Cooper T20, powered by a 2-litre Bristol straight-6.

Bold move going for an unproven combination, but good luck nonetheless :) And Behra's a valid pick.
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Ultimate-BMW TO ENTER F1

Team Ultimate have decided to throw their hat in the ring and with BMW engines will launch a full season campaign in to F1.
There is no reason we can't win races immediately!

With the team's base in East Germany, the driver for the team will be East German championship front runner Edgar Barth.


Team Ultimate will build their own chassis and run a BMW 2.0 L6.
One car entry with Edgar Barth.

I hope this is all ok? Edgar Barth should be a high enough calibre to compete.

They'll have just three races, unless you're pairing the team with Ferrari America, in which case they'll only make up one entrant...

As for Barth, I'd say his results in the East German Championship aren't that impressive at this point. I'd say he'll be ready by Belgium.

Just like Maserati, the entry isn't accepted yet, but you have first pick on Barth.



I would like to pair the team with Ferrari America if possible? Ok, Ultimate BMW will enter from Belgium with Barth.
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Shadaza wrote:
tommykl wrote:

Shadaza wrote:Team Ultimate will build their own chassis and run a BMW 2.0 L6.
One car entry with Edgar Barth.

I hope this is all ok? Edgar Barth should be a high enough calibre to compete.

They'll have just three races, unless you're pairing the team with Ferrari America, in which case they'll only make up one entrant...

As for Barth, I'd say his results in the East German Championship aren't that impressive at this point. I'd say he'll be ready by Belgium.

Just like Maserati, the entry isn't accepted yet, but you have first pick on Barth.



I would like to pair the team with Ferrari America if possible? Ok, Ultimate BMW will enter from Belgium with Barth.

OK. All I need to know is the name of the full operation that runs both teams.
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Ok, to fulfill the entries, Maserati will run for now

Frére (all races bar Belgium)
Marimon (all races bar Australia)

Giving both have nine races, it fulfill the list of entries the team has right to enter. If Maserati gets more entries due to performance, new drivers will be added
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tommykl wrote:
Shadaza wrote:

I would like to pair the team with Ferrari America if possible? Ok, Ultimate BMW will enter from Belgium with Barth.

OK. All I need to know is the name of the full operation that runs both teams.


Group Ultimate runs the two teams.

Having started out as Kurtis Kraft, they based themselves in East Germany for Europe, after the failure of the Kurtis Kraft Offenhauser the owners split and Frank Kurtis returned to the USA. However the base of operations remained in Bavaria and a deal with Ferrari, using attractive USA routes, led to the customer Ferrari team. With the ultimate aim of the finances from that team leading to the creation of Group Ultimates first inhouse car, the Ultimate-BMW 001.

That is the backstory, I had actually planned on BMW entry for '52 since joining this series! Hope it makes sense.
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FantometteBR wrote:Ok, to fulfill the entries, Maserati will run for now

Frére (all races bar Belgium)
Marimon (all races bar Australia)

Giving both have nine races, it fulfill the list of entries the team has right to enter. If Maserati gets more entries due to performance, new drivers will be added

Good, the entry is accepted.

Shadaza wrote:
tommykl wrote:
Shadaza wrote:

I would like to pair the team with Ferrari America if possible? Ok, Ultimate BMW will enter from Belgium with Barth.

OK. All I need to know is the name of the full operation that runs both teams.


Group Ultimate runs the two teams.

Having started out as Kurtis Kraft, they based themselves in East Germany for Europe, after the failure of the Kurtis Kraft Offenhauser the owners split and Frank Kurtis returned to the USA. However the base of operations remained in Bavaria and a deal with Ferrari, using attractive USA routes, led to the customer Ferrari team. With the ultimate aim of the finances from that team leading to the creation of Group Ultimates first inhouse car, the Ultimate-BMW 001.

That is the backstory, I had actually planned on BMW entry for '52 since joining this series! Hope it makes sense.

It makes sense, and the entry is good!

As promised, here are the 90 ranked drivers, in performance order:
1 Giuseppe Farina
2 Toulo de Graffenried
3 Dorino Serafini
4 Consalvo Sanesi
5 Robert Manzon
6 Peter Whitehead
7 Reg Parnell
8 Maurice Trintignant
9 Juan Manuel Fangio
10 André Pilette
11 B. Bira
12 Louis Chiron
13 Nello Pagani
14 Rudi Fischer
15 Piero Taruffi
16 Tony Bettenhausen
17 Yves Giraud-Cabantous
18 Stirling Moss
19 Manfred von Brauchitsch
20 Paul Pietsch
21 Harry Schell
22 Franco Rol
23 Giovanni Bracco
24 Tazio Nuvolari
25 Johnny Claes
26 André Simon
27 Jacques Swaters
28 José Froilan Gonzalez
29 Charles Van Acker
30 Troy Ruttman
31 Hans Von Stuck
32 Jimmy Davies
33 Luigi Villoresi
34 David Murray
35 Clemente Biondetti
36 Chico Landi
37 Bruno Sterzi
38 Tony Gaze
39 Alberto Ascari
40 Georges Grignard
41 Felice Bonetto
42 Eugène Chaboud
43 Brian Shawe-Taylor
44 Arthur Legat
45 Rudolf Caracciola
46 David Hampshire
47 Louis Gérard
48 Luigi Fagioli
49 Louis Rosier
50 Mauri Rose
51 Bob Gerard
52 Philippe Etancelin
53 Geoff Richardson
54 Myron Fohr
55 Graham Whitehead
56 Raymond Sommer
57 Paul Frère
58 Aldo Gordini
59 Jean-Louis Rosier
60 Cecil Green
61 Cuth Harrison
62 Roger Laurent
63 Jan Flinterman
64 Joe Kelly
65 Eugène Martin
66 Joie Chitwood
67 Pierre Levegh
68 Mike Hawthorn
69 Guy Mairesse
70 Giovanni Lurani
71 Geoff Crossley
72 Hellé Nice
73 George Abecassis
74 Charles Pozzi
75 Bill Holland
76 Johnny Mauro
77 Francesco Godia
78 Bill Vukovich
79 Wilbur Shaw
80 Franco Comotti
81 Peter Walker
82 Tony Rolt
83 Dries van der Lof
84 Onofre Marimon
85 Franco Cortese
86 Porfirio Rubirosa
87 Lance Macklin
88 Maria Teresa de Filippis
89 Piero Dusio
90 Jean Behra

Of which can be removed: Luigi Fagioli and Yves Giraud-Cabantous (due to tragic circumstances), Franco Rol (still injured) and Tazio Nuvolari (permanently retired).
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FMecha wrote:After missing out first two seasons, I decide to join this. The team will be the Italian-based Scuderia Aqua, mainly from ashes that his Metcalf. They will take part in Monaco and Italy only. Pedro Carini will drove and the car will be a Maserati A6GCM. :)

Are they taking over Metcalf's entry or is it another outfit completely? Oh, and I think you mean Piero Carini ;)[/quote]

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FMecha wrote:
FMecha wrote:After missing out first two seasons, I decide to join this. The team will be the Italian-based Scuderia Aqua, mainly from ashes that his Metcalf. They will take part in Monaco and Italy only. Pedro Carini will drove and the car will be a Maserati A6GCM. :)

Are they taking over Metcalf's entry or is it another outfit completely? Oh, and I think you mean Piero Carini ;)


Quasi-takeover. And yes, I had yet another brain fade :oops:[/quote]
I really have to know. Is it the same entry with a different name? Because your performance will be different...
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