2002 AltCART

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 06 Oct 2013, 18:03

Tagliani on the podium :shock:

is there a chance that we could run Maggnussen for the rest of the season?

Post by **Nuppiz** » 06 Oct 2013, 22:56

As mentioned on the chat, despite already announcing their withdrawal FSK are launching a complaint against the driving standards of Frédéric-Maxime Voeckler. As seen in the replay, Voeckler braked far too late into the corner and ploughed into the back of Magnussen. We firmly believe that this was completely avoidable and could've lead into a far more serious accident.

While FSK won't benefit from any possible penalty imposed on Voeckler due to their withdrawal, we'd still wish the CART stewards to look into his driving behavior to see if any action should be taken.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 06 Oct 2013, 23:17

Bobby Dollar will get the vacant seat

Hound55 · Post by **Hound55** » 07 Oct 2013, 01:51

Ambrose-Milan wish to express their interest in signing contracts with current drivers Jacques Malenfant and Cameron Maroon for next season.

AustralianStig · Post by **AustralianStig** » 07 Oct 2013, 07:24

Holden Dealer Team will not renew Lowndes contract
It is understood that HDT has given Lowndes notice that he will not be required next season. The rookie Australian, currently 15th in the driver's standings for the 2002 AltCART season, has scored little more than half the points of his experienced team-mate, but more importantly, failed to finish the team's home race on the Gold Coast.
"Unfortunately Craig just hasn't done enough this season. We have been open with him throughout the season, and he is looking forward to returning to V8 Supercars for 2003," team boss Adam Rogers stated soon after the Honda Indy 300, "We wish Craig well, and are now hoping to secure a new driver for next season in the coming weeks."
Rogers refused to comment when asked if the new driver would be Australian, simply saying that all options would be considered.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 07 Oct 2013, 11:57

Nuppiz wrote:As mentioned on the chat, despite already announcing their withdrawal FSK are launching a complaint against the driving standards of Frédéric-Maxime Voeckler. As seen in the replay, Voeckler braked far too late into the corner and ploughed into the back of Magnussen. We firmly believe that this was completely avoidable and could've lead into a far more serious accident.

While FSK won't benefit from any possible penalty imposed on Voeckler due to their withdrawal, we'd still wish the CART stewards to look into his driving behavior to see if any action should be taken.

Alstom IBR counters by complaining about the driving standards of Jan Magnussen, for being a danger to other drivers. He clearly brake-tested Voeckler, braking far too early for the corner than was necessary. This sudden early stop caught Voeckler by surprise and thus caused the incident.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 07 Oct 2013, 12:31

I'd like to leave these series at the end of the year. It seems I've entered too many championships and lost interest into that one.

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 08 Oct 2013, 00:03

Genki will hire Shigeaki Hattori and bring Japanese engines, Epson, and worse yet, CAW SWIDE!
For the other seat, Memo Gidley will be retained.

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 09 Oct 2013, 14:34

roblomas52 wrote:Tagliani on the podium

is there a chance that we could run Maggnussen for the rest of the season?

Yep.

Nuppiz wrote:As mentioned on the chat, despite already announcing their withdrawal FSK are launching a complaint against the driving standards of Frédéric-Maxime Voeckler. As seen in the replay, Voeckler braked far too late into the corner and ploughed into the back of Magnussen. We firmly believe that this was completely avoidable and could've lead into a far more serious accident.

While FSK won't benefit from any possible penalty imposed on Voeckler due to their withdrawal, we'd still wish the CART stewards to look into his driving behavior to see if any action should be taken.

Ben Gleck (Cheif Steward) wrote:Eh, I think it's a racing incident.

Onxy Wrecked wrote:Genki will hire Shigeaki Hattori and bring Japanese engines, Epson, and worse yet, CAW SWIDE!
For the other seat, Memo Gidley will be retained.

Rebadging engines will be gone for next year I'm afraid.

BTW, can we start thinking of what tracks we'd like to see next year?

I'd ideally like to have a 50-50 split of road courses and ovals.

Confirmed Races (In no order):

Michigan
Long Beach
Milwaukee
Indianapolis
San Fransisco
Thruxton
Atlanta

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 09 Oct 2013, 14:42

Texas Motor Speedway
Oulton Park
Nordscheleife
My suggestions....

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 09 Oct 2013, 15:01

Monza and Tokyo R246, please.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 09 Oct 2013, 15:04

FMecha wrote:Monza and Tokyo R246, please.

Great minds think alike

Tokyo Route 246 street track
Fuji speedway without chicanes
Nordschlife 24 hours
La Sarthe
Daytona
Brands hatch Indy
Bathurst
Monza
Virginia international raceway grand east course

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 09 Oct 2013, 15:14

AxelP800 wrote:Nordscheleife

roblomas52 wrote:La Sarthe

No. Just no. :roll:

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 09 Oct 2013, 15:39

MRS Buyout
After a series of internal affairs, the BoD of Montreal Racing Services has decided to sell its CART operation to Union Savior Developments, a well funded European team for the next season. USD spokesman, Richter Belmont, said to the press "The core of MRS will continue to work as always, but the team itself will run under the flag of Union Savior. Also, we'll keep the current driver lineup."

I want to keep a single team for the PMMF

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 09 Oct 2013, 15:43

FMecha wrote:
AxelP800 wrote:Nordscheleife

roblomas52 wrote:La Sarthe

No. Just no.

just think of the epicness

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 09 Oct 2013, 15:49

roblomas52 wrote:
FMecha wrote:
AxelP800 wrote:Nordscheleife

roblomas52 wrote:La Sarthe

No. Just no.

just think of the epicness

Nope.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 09 Oct 2013, 15:50

Salamander wrote:
roblomas52 wrote:
AxelP800 wrote:Nordscheleife

roblomas52 wrote:La Sarthe

just think of the epicness

Nope.

Alreaddy have.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 09 Oct 2013, 19:01

FMecha wrote:Tokyo R246, please.

Yes! That would be fun.

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 09 Oct 2013, 19:47

Bathurst
Talladega (for the lulz)
Circuit of the Americas
Da-y-to-naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 09 Oct 2013, 21:58

SeedStriker wrote:Bathurst
Talladega (for the lulz)
Circuit of the Americas
Da-y-to-naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

Doesn't Daytona have a road course as the superspeedway is too steep for safe driving.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 09 Oct 2013, 22:06

Onxy Wrecked wrote:
SeedStriker wrote:Bathurst
Talladega (for the lulz)
Circuit of the Americas
Da-y-to-naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

Doesn't Daytona have a road course as the superspeedway is too steep for safe driving.

Yes, and that's totally unacceptable as well. It takes the trioval at more or less full speed.

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 09 Oct 2013, 22:42

Salamander wrote:
Onxy Wrecked wrote:Doesn't Daytona have a road course as the superspeedway is too steep for safe driving.

Yes, and that's totally unacceptable as well. It takes the trioval at more or less full speed.

It's as steep as Michigan's banking in the trioval so it might be safe enough at 18 degrees at least to avoid G-Lock tunnel vision like the Texas Motor Speedway race. However, the adjustment off of the banking might be more troublesome given that speed as I suspect the apron has no banking to it.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 10 Oct 2013, 06:31

How about a race on Texas motor speedway because we can then do the race that never was

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 10 Oct 2013, 17:14

roblomas52 wrote:How about a race on Texas motor speedway because we can then do the race that never was

24 degree banking might require a device to lower speeds to avoid the G-lock.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 10 Oct 2013, 19:31

Onxy Wrecked wrote:
roblomas52 wrote:How about a race on Texas motor speedway because we can then do the race that never was

24 degree banking might require a device to lower speeds to avoid the G-lock.

Power restrictor to 550hp

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 10 Oct 2013, 20:26

roblomas52 wrote:
Onxy Wrecked wrote:24 degree banking might require a device to lower speeds to avoid the G-lock.

Power restrictor to 550hp

I would put more drag inducing devices on the car. A Hanford device for front and rear wings.

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 10 Oct 2013, 20:31

Onxy Wrecked wrote:I would put more drag inducing devices on the car. A Hanford device for front and rear wings.

Wouldn't that lead to dangerous pack racing?

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 10 Oct 2013, 21:48

Dark77 wrote:
Onxy Wrecked wrote:I would put more drag inducing devices on the car. A Hanford device for front and rear wings.
Wouldn't that lead to dangerous pack racing?

I'm sure there is a way that we can keep the race fast and exciting without risking the drivers lives too much, hence why I think a chicane and a 1.5 bar boost pressure restrictor should suffice along with mandatory road course aero to create more drag to slow the cars some more

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 10 Oct 2013, 21:59

roblomas52 wrote:
Dark77 wrote:
Onxy Wrecked wrote:I would put more drag inducing devices on the car. A Hanford device for front and rear wings.
Wouldn't that lead to dangerous pack racing?

I'm sure there is a way that we can keep the race fast and exciting without risking the drivers lives too much, hence why I think a chicane and a 1.5 bar boost pressure restrictor should suffice along with mandatory road course aero to create more drag to slow the cars some more

You didn't watch the IndyCar race at Vegas a few years ago, did you?

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 10 Oct 2013, 22:09

Wizzie wrote:
roblomas52 wrote:
Dark77 wrote:Wouldn't that lead to dangerous pack racing?

I'm sure there is a way that we can keep the race fast and exciting without risking the drivers lives too much, hence why I think a chicane and a 1.5 bar boost pressure restrictor should suffice along with mandatory road course aero to create more drag to slow the cars some more

You didn't watch the IndyCar race at Vegas a few years ago, did you?

No, because it is not on free to view tv here in Britain but I heard about it on the news the following day :cry:

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 11 Oct 2013, 18:18

Dark77 wrote:
Onxy Wrecked wrote:I would put more drag inducing devices on the car. A Hanford device for front and rear wings.
Wouldn't that lead to dangerous pack racing?

It could, but as does the nature of restrictions on power given how NASCAR races at Daytona and Talladega.

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 12 Oct 2013, 14:16

Qualifying results

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Pos   Driver   Time
1   Jacques Malenfant   80.8182
2   Frederic-Maxime Voeckler   81.007
3   Dario Franchitti   81.0222
4   Sebastien Bourdais   81.302
5   Brendon Cassidy Jr.   81.3418
6   Boris Offenhauser   81.4296
7   Jan Magnussen   81.4867
8   Geoff Donnelly   81.5643
9   Natascha Zaugg   81.613
10   Patrick Carpentier   81.7065
11   Dennis Mignolet   81.9346
12   Paul Tracy   81.9581
13   Sergej Madunochev   82.0701
14   Dan Wheldon   82.0927
15   Oriol Servia   82.0944
16   Craig Lowndes   82.1228
17   Townsend Bell   82.2692
18   Buddy Rice   82.4549
19   Tony Kanaan   82.6631
20   Memo Gidley   82.7627
21   Jose Pablo Mazzacane   82.796
22   Jason Bright   82.882
23   Cameron Maroon   82.9651
24   Bobby Dollar   83.057
25   Rick Douglais   83.0827
26   Alvaro Gonzalez   83.2896
27   Casval Rojas   83.3679
28   Richie Hearn   83.67
29   Ronald Tenpecost   83.8272
30   James Generic   84.0568
31   John Andretti   84.4997
32   Brett Miller   85.119
33   Pjotr Madunochev   85.2183
34   Tim Horan   85.3066
35   Tsubasa Portilla   85.3094
36   Paul Eckeridge   85.5213

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POS   DRIVER   LAPS   TIME
1   Frederic-Maxime Voeckler   65   5304.7842
2   Jacques Malenfant   65   5307.1294
3   Natascha Zaugg   65   5322.4956
4   Sebastien Bourdais   65   5323.2422
5   Jason Bright   65   5346.0571
6   Dan Wheldon   65   5360.1587
7   Geoff Donnelly   65   5362.5996
8   Jan Magnussen   65   5368.3311
9   Bobby Dollar   65   5370.0356
10   Buddy Rice   65   5374.3457
11   Tsubasa Portilla   65   5379.6626
12   Craig Lowndes   65   5459.3643
13   Boris Offenhauser   64   5317.2056
14   Patrick Carpentier   64   5317.7803
15   Paul Tracy   64   5320.3784
16   Oriol Servia   64   5322.4194
17   Brett Miller   64   5340.8203
18   John Andretti   64   5366.0049
19   James Generic   63   5309.481
20   Townsend Bell   63   5310.9834
21   Tony Kanaan   63   5314.4663
22   Jose Pablo Mazzacane   63   5320.7231
23   Paul Eckeridge   63   5374.2144
24   Alvaro Gonzalez   62   5322.2788
25   Sergej Madunochev   62   5353.6855
26   Tim Horan   61   5311.4141
27   Pjotr Madunochev   52   Crash
28   Rick Douglais   49   Crash
29   Cameron Maroon   48   Crash
30   Ronald Tenpecost   46   Crash
31   Brendon Cassidy Jr.   45   Crash
32   Dario Franchitti   45   Crash
33   Richie Hearn   45   Crash
34   Memo Gidley   43   Engine
35   Casval Rojas   14   Crash
36   Dennis Mignolet   5   Crash

Bans/injuries: John Andretti will be investigated for an incident in T1.
Fastest lap: Jacques Malenfant 80.3261
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Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 12 Oct 2013, 16:39

Because the wiki is too slow at the moment, here are the title standings going into the last race:

Only the top 4 drivers have a shot at the title.

A reminder of the points system:

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For Rice to win the title, he must finish atleast 2nd.
For Malenfant to win the title, he must finish atleast 4th.
For Voeckler to win the title, he must finish atleast 13th.
Servia could retire and win the title, but his opponents must not finish in the positions above or higher.

Hound55 · Post by **Hound55** » 13 Oct 2013, 00:40

I am surprised we are still in contention with only two wins. Time to hope for the best.

also, I like that mock eurosport logo :lol:

Hound55 · Post by **Hound55** » 17 Oct 2013, 21:21

We would like to have Maroon run this special livery for the final race of the season.

Ambrose-Milan is excited to reveal the new partnership with Wonder Bread that will see them sponsoring the 25 for several races next season.

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 18 Oct 2013, 16:03

Qualifying results

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Pos   Driver   Time
1   Jacques Malenfant   33.446
2   Boris Offenhauser   33.4997
3   Frederic-Maxime Voeckler   33.5259
4   Cameron Maroon   33.5758
5   Paul Tracy   33.5913
6   Dennis Mignolet   33.6316
7   Oriol Servia   33.6544
8   Sebastien Bourdais   33.6993
9   Dan Wheldon   33.7066
10   Jose Pablo Mazzacane   33.753
11   Buddy Rice   33.7654
12   Brendon Cassidy Jr.   33.7667
13   Rick Douglais   33.803
14   Patrick Carpentier   33.9178
15   Sergej Madunochev   33.9311
16   Jan Magnussen   33.9323
17   John Andretti   33.9958
18   Tony Kanaan   34.0139
19   Natascha Zaugg   34.0168
20   Craig Lowndes   34.0922
21   Dario Franchitti   34.1662
22   Alvaro Gonzalez   34.1952
23   Memo Gidley   34.2426
24   Jason Bright   34.332
25   Tsubasa Portilla   34.3474
26   Townsend Bell   34.429
27   Ronald Tenpecost   34.4985
28   Geoff Donnelly   34.5714
29   Casval Rojas   34.6983
30   Pjotr Madunochev   34.9215
31   Bobby Dollar   34.9392
32   James Generic   35.1878
33   Brett Miller   35.2538
34   Tim Horan   35.3111
35   Paul Eckeridge   35.3672
36   Richie Hearn   35.4823

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POS   DRIVER   LAPS   TIME
1   Tim Horan   200   6452.0933
2   Paul Eckeridge   200   6465.5098
3   Tsubasa Portilla   199   6454.2114
4   Casval Rojas   199   6461.6436
5   Dan Wheldon   199   6461.9199
6   Buddy Rice   199   6478.1128
7   Brett Miller   199   6479.8677
8   Boris Offenhauser   199   6483.0449
9   Jan Magnussen   197   6466.2915
10   Jose Pablo Mazzacane   196   6477.5352
11   Tony Kanaan   193   6467.4834
12   Ronald Tenpecost   193   6483.582
13   Cameron Maroon   193   6484.7754
14   James Generic   192   6504.4754
15   Craig Lowndes   192   6473.8975
16   Brendon Cassidy Jr.   191   6459.397
17   Rick Douglais   190   6455.3052
18   Frederic-Maxime Voeckler   190   6467.1152
19   Dennis Mignolet   190   6471.6411
20   Paul Tracy   189   6460.0327
21   Patrick Carpentier   189   6476.2031
22   Dario Franchitti   188   6459.0859
23   Geoff Donnelly   187   6520.8237
24   Pjotr Madunochev   186   6467.2725
25   Memo Gidley   185   6460.3491
26   Richie Hearn   185   6475.3965
27   Jacques Malenfant   181   6477.9658
28   Sergej Madunochev   179   6468.0483
29   Oriol Servia   95   Crash
30   Sebastien Bourdais   90   Crash
31   John Andretti   89   Crash
32   Natascha Zaugg   9   Crash
33   Jason Bright   6   Crash
34   Townsend Bell   4   Crash
35   Alvaro Gonzalez   1   Crash
36   Bobby Dollar   1   Crash

Bans/injuries: None
Fastest lap: Brendon Cassidy Jr. 31.2154
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Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 18 Oct 2013, 16:07

Hound55 wrote:We would like to have Maroon run this special livery for the final race of the season.

Ambrose-Milan is excited to reveal the new partnership with Wonder Bread that will see them sponsoring the 25 for several races next season.

Cam Maroon is very happy to run that livery, so long as his own sponsors get adequate space as well.

Meanwhile, let's kick off the silly season, shall we?

RejectSport wrote:SHOCK MOVE: BRENDON CASSIDY JUNIOR TO LEAVE CASSIDY RACING
A major shock has been sent through the CART paddock today, as it has been revealed that Brendon Cassidy Jr will NOT be returning to drive for the team run by his father. Cassidy, 25, is already a 3-year veteran of the series, has been reportedly frustrated by the lack of pace inherent in the team this year, as he is still yet to capture his maiden win in the series. Following the shock announcement by his father, Brendon Jr said of his departure,

"For me, I think this is the best move I can make. Dad's trying to rebuild the whole team, we've had a pretty awful year to be frank, and really I feel like I'm getting to the stage where I should be fighting for titles, but I don't see the team doing that for the forseeable future. So I was talking it out, and we figured that we'd be best off parting ways for now. I'd love to come back and win titles for Cassidy Racing, but I'd rather win titles than nothing at all."

Reportedly, the younger Cassidy is said to be considering offers from any team, and as one of the highest rated American talents today, should be in high demand. Meanwhile, Cassidy Racing itself is looking to scale down to 2 cars, and is rumoured to be chasing up Jarno Trulli, the Italian who looks to be on his way out of a race seat at the Renault Formula 1 team. With both Renault seats locked up for 2003, Flavio Briatore is said to be looking at placing Trulli in a CART team to keep him race ready should his services be required, and Briatore has been spotted at Cassidy's headquarters in Fort Wayne earlier this month. Should Trulli be picked up by Cassidy Racing, it would likely leave Brett Miller shut out of the team, as Brendon Cassidy Sr will likely wish to retain Tony Kanaan, the Brazilian having won twice this season.

Before anyone asks, Klon is in charge of F1 in canon, and he has determined that Trulli is available for 2003. So, if you have a problem with it, take it up with him.

What was that? What do you mean, this article used to mention Fernando Alonso? That's completely ridiculous. And wrong. And ridiculous.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 20 Oct 2013, 00:01

La Gazzetta Dello Sport wrote:Fired for winning the championship! CART winner Oriol Servia released by Alstom IBR

Alstom Il Barone Rampante have elected not to renew the contract of Oriol Servia, despite recently being crowned CART champion, and with his contract reputedly having a one-year extension option built into it.

While Servia started the year strongly for the now defunct Jefferson GP team, streaking away into an early championship lead, he was outclassed by IBR team-mate Frederic-Maxime Voeckler after his switch to the French/Italian squad, eventually clinging onto the title by a mere 3 points from his French team-mate.

Having won Prost GP in 2001 and finishing 1-2 in CART this season, Alstom are considered a top team, so the drive will be highly sought after by many drivers. Dennis Mignolet, who replaced Joey Alliot mid-season, could only deliver a mere 15 points in the 8 races he drove for Alstom IBR, having been left without a drive when his Force Indianapolis team folded earlier in the year; despite Servia's departure theoretically clearing the way for the Belgian getting a full-time seat next season, he is also expected to not be offered a contract renewal.

New rules for 2003 mean teams can only run a maximum of two cars, which means only one new driver will be brought in, rather than two to replace both Servia and Mignolet. With that in mind, Alstom IBR will likely take less risk with their driver selection than 2002, where a gamble on youngster Joey Alliot backfired massively, almost costing Voeckler precious points in the title race on more than one occasion with near-miss collisions while being lapped by his elder team-mate.

The driver said to be top of Alstom IBR's shopping list is Jack Christopherson; the Englishman is a veteran of Formula One, becoming world champion in 1997, and while he does not have much experience of racing Stateside, certainly has a CV that could justify taking the vacant seat of the reigning champions. However, they are also said to be looking at current F3000 driver Collin Pratchett, a graduate of the Star Mazda Series and the Atlantic Championship. The youngster is said to have much potential, despite his results in the top European feeder series being somewhat lacklustre thus far. There have also been rumours of Alstom IBR representatives speaking to Danilo di Longo, who previously drove for the team's Life GP outfit almost a decade ago.

AustralianStig · Post by **AustralianStig** » 20 Oct 2013, 00:18

Holden Dealer's Team in talks with Serviá
It has emerged just moments following IBR's shocking announcement that Oriol Serviá would be sacked that the Holden Dealer Team are hoping to snap up the reigning champion.
"Oriol is a fantastic driver and will make an ideal partner for Paul Tracy," HDT's Adam Rogers emphatically stated, "We are doing everything we can to secure his signature, and look forward to him driving for us in 2003."
While it sounds like the deal is all but done, no comment was available from Serviá's management.

OOC: Being a real life driver, I'm assuming we just have to post that we want him and that's it? Or does someone control his moves?

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 20 Oct 2013, 00:24

AustralianStig wrote:OOC: Being a real life driver, I'm assuming we just have to post that we want him and that's it? Or does someone control his moves?

You just have to post that you want him and if no other team is interested he'll be yours, however for next season if 2 teams try signing him within a week I will run an RNG to see which team he goes to.