Grand Prix Rejects

Posted: **02 May 2013, 11:48**

It's that time again! F1 Rejects' third (or fourth, depending on how you like the F1RDS or the F1RNC) most-viewed Grand Prix 2-based series is back for more, this time simulating through the 1998 F1 season! Will it be #DaviesWinsLol? Or will Tom Douglas finally step up and take the crown? We shall see.

1998 Entry List:
Winfield Williams-Renault
SH: Prince Walik, Hermann Mann (eurobrun, pasta_maldonado)
1. Daniel Moreno
2. Andrew Spokes
TD: Jose Alvarez, Jorg Scrattenheim

Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro
SH: Andreas Stefano (FMecha)
3. Tom Douglas
4. Kazuhiko Takagi
TD: Christophe Vans

Mild Seven Benetton-Playlife
SH: John Zimmer (TML)
5. John Zimmer
6. Masta Valsattis
TD: TBA

West McLaren-Mercedes
SH: Don Rennis (Wizzie)
7. James Davies
8. Rory McAllister
TD: Niko Nurminen

B&H Jordan-Honda
SH: Leonhard von Gottorp (Klon)
9. Damon Cannon
10. Leonhard von Gottorp
TD: Jeremy-Etienne Voeckler

Red Bull Sauber-Petronas
SH: Chris Forbes (eurobrun)
11. Pablo da Silva
12. Miko Fakkinen
TD: TBA

Gauloises Prost-Peugeot
SH: Dennis Mignolet (This)
14. Ron Mignolet
15. Clivio Durand
TD: Francisco Remedio

TF1 DAMS-Peugeot
SH: Thomas Kretzhaagel (Shizuka)
16. Niko Nurminen
17. Jorg Scrattenheim
TD: James Allen

Danka Zepter von Hegel Arrows
SH: Max von Hegel (tristan1117)
18. Stephano Baroncelli
19. Alejandrina Rodriguez
TD: Alexander von Hegel

Minardi Team
SH: Masta Valsattis (AdrianSutil)
20. Plinio Vida
21. Geoff Grove
TD: TBA (Ivan Lopez?)

HSBC Malaysia Stewart-Ford
SH: Eddie Stewart (JeremyMcClean)
22. Ben Fleet
23. Ralf Alden
TD: TBA

Volga Grand Prix-Ford
SH: Petr Chaddeev (The Lukas)
24. Yuuri Jougaseki
25. Lawrence Tucker
TD: TBA

Gauthier-Ford
SH: Guillaume Gauthier (BlindCaveSalamander)
26. Johan Gustafsson
27. Frederic-Maxime Voeckler
TD: Emanuele Nicchi

MasterCard Lola F1 Team
SH: Clint Mort (WaffleCat)
28. Poppy Whitechapel
29. Rick Douglais
TD: TBA

A litte history:
1994: Jack Christopherson wins the championship, Williams takes the Constructors' after Zimmer blows it in the last races of the year. The most random year to date. Christopherson retires.
1995: John Zimmer wins the championship, Benetton takes the Constructors'. Daniel Moreno loses the title in the final stages of the season.
1996: Daniel Moreno wins the championship, Williams win the Constructors' after Moreno and Pippa Mann engage in an intra-team fight for the title.
1997: Daniel Moreno wins the championship, Williams' wins the Constructors' after Tom Douglas chokes away the title in the end of the season.

Posted: **02 May 2013, 11:52**

#DaviesWinsLol

ARGH MY EYEEEEES, IT BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNS!!!!

Posted: **02 May 2013, 12:10**

eurobrun wrote:
#DaviesWinsLol

ARGH MY EYEEEEES, IT BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNS!!!!

James Davies wrote:Hah! You might wanna gouge them out then! Because that's all this year is gonna be, buddy!

Posted: **02 May 2013, 12:13**

Prince Walik wrote:The sooner you realise everyone hates you Davies the better

Posted: **02 May 2013, 12:25**

John Zimmer wrote:Ah, I missed you guys.

No I didn't. I miss the off season, when I didn't have to put up with you idiots.

Posted: **02 May 2013, 12:32**

Good luck to Prost, may the better French team win!

Posted: **02 May 2013, 12:49**

Prince Walik wrote:The sooner you realise everyone hates you Davies the better

James Davies wrote:I honestly couldn't give a damn, Wally. Everyone can hate me all they like. Won't stop me from kicking your asses into next year.

John Zimmer wrote:Ah, I missed you guys.

No I didn't. I miss the off season, when I didn't have to put up with you idiots.

James Davies wrote:By the way, guys, I hope you haven't forgotten our little wagers. £50 says I don't lap both Benettons and both Williams. A hundred says I don't win - that's on Herman. If both Williams don't score, he has to do the chicken dance in the middle of town. And, lastly, two hundred says Jordan beat McLaren in the WCC - though I still think you should save time and give me the money now, Cannon. I have an excellent cause in mind for it.

Shizuka wrote:Good luck to Prost, may the better French team win!

Guillaume Gauthier wrote:The best French team is Gauthier! Though, it will take time for us to realise our potential...

Posted: **02 May 2013, 14:47**

Monseiur Gauthier, I do believe 1999 will be a decent year for you.

Posted: **02 May 2013, 16:29**

Tristan, please note again that Christophe Vans is Ferrari's test driver.

Posted: **02 May 2013, 16:40**

Shizuka wrote:Monseiur Gauthier, I do believe 1999 will be a decent year for you.

Of course, they have a Voeckler on board for this year. What can possibly go wrong?

Posted: **02 May 2013, 22:39**

I do hope Stewart will have a stronger year than 1997, hopefully the car will be more reliable. Speaking of Stewart, anyone who would want to be test driver may apply so at this time. (No, I'm not hiring Robert Anderson.)

Posted: **02 May 2013, 22:42**

JeremyMcClean wrote:I do hope Stewart will have a stronger year than 1997, hopefully the car will be more reliable. Speaking of Stewart, anyone who would want to be test driver may apply so at this time. (No, I'm not hiring Robert Anderson.)

I'm pretty sure Anderson is banned for life.

Posted: **02 May 2013, 23:44**

Preseason Test 1
Jerez, Spain

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1. James Davies (McLaren) - 1:22.166
2. Tom Douglas (Ferrari) - 1:22.172
3. Leonhard von Gottorp (Jordan) - 1:22.635
4. Rory McAllister (McLaren) - 1:22.681
5. Andrew Spokes (Williams) - 1:23.250
6. John Zimmer (Benetton) - 1:23.411
7. Damon Cannon (Jordan) - 1:23.451
8. Daniel Moreno (Williams) - 1:23.517
9. Kazuhiko Takagi (Ferrari) - 1:23.608
10. Miko Fakkinen (Sauber) - 1:23.838
11. Masta Valsattis (Benetton) - 1:23.917
12. Ron Mignolet (Prost) - 1:24.151
13. Pablo da Silva (Sauber) - 1:24.365

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14. Stephano Baroncelli (Arrows) - 1:24.454
15. Niko Nurminen (DAMS) - 1:24.486
16. Jorg Scrattenheim (DAMS) - 1:24.521
17. Clivio Durand (Prost) - 1:24.682
18. Ben Fleet (Stewart) - 1:24.921
19. Ralf Alden (Stewart) - 1:25.146
20. Alejandrina Rodriguez (Arrows) - 1:25.155
21. Frederic-Maxime Voeckler (Gauthier) - 1:25.177
22. Rick Douglais (Lola) - 1:26.075
23. Plinio Vida (Minardi) - 1:26.183
24. Poppy Whitechapel (Lola) - 1:26.191
25. Yuuri Jougaseki (Volga) - 1:26.346
26. Lawrence Tucker (Volga) - 1:26.508
27. Johan Gusatafsson (Gauthier) - 1:26.653
28. Geoff Grove (Minardi) - 1:27.083

Just trying to shake out the carset. As you can see, random grip levels are unseasonably high at this point of the year. Don't jump to any conclusions here.

Posted: **03 May 2013, 00:06**

James Davies wrote:Heh. Heheh! Ha ha ha! AHAHAHA! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! HAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!! *Dramatic lightning in background*

Guillaume Gauthier wrote:Excellent work Fredric, I knew I was right to place my faith in you! But, Johan? What on earth was that!? This had better be a one-off occurrence - your contract can be voided at the end of this season for poor performance.

Gauthier would like to run Emanuele Nicchi in the final pre-season test. If we are only allowed to run 2 drivers, then whoever is slower in the preceding test will be replaced.

Posted: **03 May 2013, 00:54**

Shizuka wrote:Good luck to Prost, may the better French team win!

Looks like we're evenly matched. The drivers will make the difference. (or the reliability) And Gauthier isn't worth mentioning, they're just Tyrrell with a different name on it.

By the way, that McLaren car doesn't look completely legal, we'd like the FIA to investigate on that! For that matter, neither do Gauthier with their ridiculous x-wings :roll:

Posted: **03 May 2013, 01:14**

This wrote:And Gauthier isn't worth mentioning, they're just Tyrrell with a different name on it.

Guillaume Gauthier wrote:Not anymore. Now that I am in charge, Equipe Gauthier will become a force to be reckoned with. It may take some time, but we will inevitably take our place as the premier French team on the grid.

By the way, that McLaren car doesn't look completely legal, we'd like the FIA to investigate on that!

James Davies wrote:Why don't you go whine to Moreno about that!? He's into conspiracy theories, I'm sure you'd have lots to talk about!

For that matter, neither do Gauthier with their ridiculous x-wings

Guillaume Gauthier wrote:Eh? What is this nonsense about X-Wings? This is not Star Wars, you fool!

Posted: **03 May 2013, 01:15**

How come Geoff Grove was so far off the pace?

Posted: **03 May 2013, 03:06**

tristan1117 wrote:
Just trying to shake out the carset. As you can see, random grip levels are unseasonably high at this point of the year. Don't jump to any conclusions here.

Alrighty then

Stewart GP still has hope for the season then

Posted: **03 May 2013, 06:18**

So, Niko and Jörg are evenly matched. Excellent. Also, as This said, we're on almost the same level as Prost!

Posted: **03 May 2013, 15:05**

Damon Cannon wrote:Ahead of Moreno you say? I'm OK with this. This is gonna be a corker of a season, because it appears Williams, Benetton, Ferrari and Jordan are all at the same level.

Poppy Whitechapel wrote:We're better than Volga and Minardi, but Gauthier have also improved. It'll probably be them vs us at Lola for the year.

Posted: **03 May 2013, 16:30**

Andreas Stefano wrote:Everything looks well for now, but Takagi needs to push harder. And no, we won't run the so-called X-wings or whatever, because the refueller kept voicing concerns.

Ralf Alden wrote:The car is good, sure I can push harder, but I have no comment on the raw pace.

Posted: **03 May 2013, 16:34**

JeremyMcClean wrote:I do hope Stewart will have a stronger year than 1997, hopefully the car will be more reliable. Speaking of Stewart, anyone who would want to be test driver may apply so at this time. (No, I'm not hiring Robert Anderson.)

Edward Restov junior wouldn't mind wearing a ridiculous amount of tartan on weekdays

Posted: **03 May 2013, 20:39**

takagi_for_the_win wrote:
JeremyMcClean wrote:I do hope Stewart will have a stronger year than 1997, hopefully the car will be more reliable. Speaking of Stewart, anyone who would want to be test driver may apply so at this time. (No, I'm not hiring Robert Anderson.)

Edward Restov junior wouldn't mind wearing a ridiculous amount of tartan on weekdays

Neither would Van Dycke mind playing his bagpipes.

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
For that matter, neither do Gauthier with their ridiculous x-wings
Guillaume Gauthier wrote:Eh? What is this nonsense about X-Wings? This is not Star Wars, you fool!

Dennis Mignolet wrote:Oh yes, i forgot, it was Xena, The Warrior Princess

(Yes, still a long way to go to prove Gauthier is not Tyrrell)

Posted: **03 May 2013, 20:48**

For that matter, neither do Gauthier with their ridiculous x-wings

Guillaume Gauthier wrote:Eh? What is this nonsense about X-Wings? This is not Star Wars, you fool!

Dennis Mignolet wrote:Oh yes, i forgot, it was Xena, The Warrior Princess

Guillaume Gauthier wrote:What? Stop wasting my time with your nonsense!

Posted: **05 May 2013, 01:57**

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
James Davies wrote:Heh. Heheh! Ha ha ha! AHAHAHA! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! HAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!! *Dramatic lightning in background*

Guillaume Gauthier wrote:Excellent work Fredric, I knew I was right to place my faith in you! But, Johan? What on earth was that!? This had better be a one-off occurrence - your contract can be voided at the end of this season for poor performance.

Gauthier would like to run Emanuele Nicchi in the final pre-season test. If we are only allowed to run 2 drivers, then whoever is slower in the preceding test will be replaced.

Which driver are you replacing?

Posted: **05 May 2013, 02:19**

tristan1117 wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Gauthier would like to run Emanuele Nicchi in the final pre-season test. If we are only allowed to run 2 drivers, then whoever is slower in the preceding test will be replaced.

Which driver are you replacing?

It depends. If there's only 2 pre-season tests, the Gustafsson is replaced, but if there's 3, and Gustafsson goes faster than Voeckler in the second test, then Voeckler will be replaced.

Posted: **05 May 2013, 03:21**

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
tristan1117 wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Gauthier would like to run Emanuele Nicchi in the final pre-season test. If we are only allowed to run 2 drivers, then whoever is slower in the preceding test will be replaced.

Which driver are you replacing?

It depends. If there's only 2 pre-season tests, the Gustafsson is replaced, but if there's 3, and Gustafsson goes faster than Voeckler in the second test, then Voeckler will be replaced.

Probably going to be three, so I will follow the second option.

Posted: **06 May 2013, 01:24**

Preseason Test 2
Jerez, Spain

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1. Rory McAllister (McLaren) - 1:22.258
2. James Davies (McLaren) - 1:22.332
3. Tom Douglas (Ferrari) - 1:22.940
4. Andrew Spokes (Williams) - 1:23.107
5. Masta Valsattis (Benetton) - 1:23.166
6. Damon Cannon (Jordan) - 1:23.175
7. John Zimmer (Benetton) - 1:23.369
8. Daniel Moreno (Williams) - 1:23.370
9. Kazuhiko Takagi (Ferrari) - 1:23.592
10. Leonhard von Gottorp (Jordan) - 1:23.748
11. Pablo da Silva (Sauber) - 1:23.754
12. Niko Nurminen (DAMS) - 1:23.990
13. Miko Fakkinen (Sauber) - 1:24.450

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14. Jorg Scrattenheim (DAMS) - 1:24.500
15. Stephano Baroncelli (Arrows) - 1:24.790
16. Ron Mignolet (Prost) - 1:24.951
17. Clivio Durand (Prost) - 1:25.067
18. Ben Fleet (Stewart) - 1:25.153
19. Alejandrina Rodriguez (Arrows) - 1:25.267
20. Ralf Alden (Stewart) - 1:25.730
21. Poppy Whitechapel (Lola) - 1:26.039
22. Frederic-Maxime Voeckler (Gauthier) - 1:26.305
23. Lawrence Tucker (Volga) - 1:26.541
24. Plinio Vida (Minardi) - 1:26.622
25. Johan Gustafsson (Gauthier) - 1:26.646
26. Geoff Grove (Minardi) - 1:26.649
27. Yuuri Jougaseki (Volga) - 1:26.887
28. Rick Douglais (Lola) - 1:26.964

McLaren dominates testing but McAllister pips his teammate by less than a tenth. Williams, Jordan, Ferrari and Benetton all appear to be evenly matched. The teams seem to be stacking into four tiers of performance; Tier 1 (McLaren), Tier 2 (Ferrari, Williams, Benetton, Jordan), Tier 3 (Sauber, DAMS, Prost, Arrows Stewart) and Tier 4 (Lola, Gauthier, Volga, Minardi). You can make the argument that Tier 3 should be split between Sauber/DAMS/Prost and the other two teams. Also, the final 1998 calendar has been posted on the wiki, with little to no change from last year's edition.

Posted: **06 May 2013, 02:03**

Bit strange how Gustafsson has suddenly became slower than Voeckler, the opposit was true at the end of 1997. Good to see the non delusional Mclaren driver to be faster than his teammate.

Posted: **06 May 2013, 06:07**

Our speed is good, reliability is a different question altogether though...

Posted: **06 May 2013, 07:41**

tristan1117 wrote:Preseason Test 2
Jerez, Spain
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14. Jorg Scrattenheim (DAMS) - 14:24.500

Now just what was he doing to spend that long on the track? :lol:

I know, it's a typo.

Posted: **06 May 2013, 08:19**

tristan1117 wrote:Also, the final 1998 calendar has been posted on the wiki, with little to no change from last year's edition.

I think we need another race or two. The season seems to stop abruptly midway through September.

And it gives room for more F1RGP2C madness

Posted: **06 May 2013, 08:52**

Nuppiz wrote:
tristan1117 wrote:Preseason Test 2
Jerez, Spain
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14. Jorg Scrattenheim (DAMS) - 14:24.500
Now just what was he doing to spend that long on the track?

I know, it's a typo.

He was probably having a toilet break at a marshall's post :lol:

Posted: **06 May 2013, 10:26**

eurobrun wrote:Bit strange how Gustafsson has suddenly became slower than Voeckler, the opposit was true at the end of 1997. Good to see the non delusional Mclaren driver to be faster than his teammate.

Non delusional? Last time I checked Rory McAllister believed he could beat James Davies.

Posted: **06 May 2013, 10:32**

eurobrun wrote:Bit strange how Gustafsson has suddenly became slower than Voeckler, the opposit was true at the end of 1997. Good to see the non delusional Mclaren driver to be faster than his teammate.

Both F1RGP2C and Prost GP are canon. Therefore it's hardly surprising to see a driver who can win races in the latter be reasonably handy in the former.

Yep. If you follow this but not Prost GP, then let it be known, A VOECKLER WON A RACE.

Posted: **06 May 2013, 10:35**

Stramala wrote:
eurobrun wrote:Bit strange how Gustafsson has suddenly became slower than Voeckler, the opposit was true at the end of 1997. Good to see the non delusional Mclaren driver to be faster than his teammate.

Both F1RGP2C and Prost GP are canon. Therefore it's hardly surprising to see a driver who can win races in the latter be reasonably handy in the former.

Yep. If you follow this but not Prost GP, then let it be known, A VOECKLER WON A RACE.

Robert bathplugging Anderson got a 4th early in the season. Your argument is invalid

Posted: **06 May 2013, 10:37**

Don Rennis wrote:Itsa very good to see that the car seemingly the class of the field already. And so far, it seems that we have solved the reliability problems that plagued us last year.

eurobrun wrote:
Stramala wrote:
eurobrun wrote:Bit strange how Gustafsson has suddenly became slower than Voeckler, the opposit was true at the end of 1997. Good to see the non delusional Mclaren driver to be faster than his teammate.

Both F1RGP2C and Prost GP are canon. Therefore it's hardly surprising to see a driver who can win races in the latter be reasonably handy in the former.

Yep. If you follow this but not Prost GP, then let it be known, A VOECKLER WON A RACE.

Robert bathplugging Anderson got a 4th early in the season. Your argument is invalid

Goddamn it Mr Hamilton, you're making Anderson seem more important than he really is

Posted: **06 May 2013, 13:35**

eurobrun wrote:
Stramala wrote:
eurobrun wrote:Bit strange how Gustafsson has suddenly became slower than Voeckler, the opposit was true at the end of 1997. Good to see the non delusional Mclaren driver to be faster than his teammate.

Both F1RGP2C and Prost GP are canon. Therefore it's hardly surprising to see a driver who can win races in the latter be reasonably handy in the former.

Yep. If you follow this but not Prost GP, then let it be known, A VOECKLER WON A RACE.

Robert bathplugging Anderson got a 4th early in the season. Your argument is invalid

Well, Gustafsson's performance file is matched up to Ricardo Rosset, so that would explain his lack of pace in recent weeks.

pasta_maldonado wrote:
tristan1117 wrote:Also, the final 1998 calendar has been posted on the wiki, with little to no change from last year's edition.

I think we need another race or two. The season seems to stop abruptly midway through September.

And it gives room for more F1RGP2C madness

I'm trying to follow the actual F1 calendar with slightly different dates put in. I don't think we will be going to eighteen races just yet. Maybe next year, when things get interesting...

Posted: **06 May 2013, 18:10**

pasta_maldonado wrote:
tristan1117 wrote:Also, the final 1998 calendar has been posted on the wiki, with little to no change from last year's edition.

I think we need another race or two. The season seems to stop abruptly midway through September.

And it gives room for more F1RGP2C madness

Pasta, you said you want to replace Hermann Mann in 1997 thread. With whom?

Douglas is looking better now.

Posted: **06 May 2013, 18:27**

FMecha wrote:Douglas is looking better now.

Err, how? He was right with Davies in the first test, now he's dropped 6 tenths and fallen behind McAllister as well.

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