F1WRCR 1953 season - Post-season prize money up!

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 28 Dec 2013, 13:21

tommykl wrote:
FantometteBR wrote:Maserati might add Simon as one of the main drivers for the remaining of the season

Not possible for Italy, O.S.C.A. just hired him for that race

So be it for the other race(s)

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 28 Dec 2013, 17:23

Glad the team finished 1-2. Gonzalez had a surprising race there.

Bira did fantastically

dr-baker wrote:A first race finish for a lady, you say?

Very surprising!!

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 28 Dec 2013, 18:18

How much would it cost me to ship one or two cars to the US? There might be some chances for a good result over there...

And that Maserati better qualify for Monza, or else we will not continue with Maserati!

Post by **tommykl** » 29 Dec 2013, 07:53

This wrote:How much would it cost me to ship one or two cars to the US? There might be some chances for a good result over there...

And that Maserati better qualify for Monza, or else we will not continue with Maserati!

Shipping costs would be somewhere between £15 000 and £20 000.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 29 Dec 2013, 16:20

Balkan Eagle will make all necessary repairs to enter next race. Should Leader has some expenditures of that kind - we will pay them, too. I am sorry, just busy on holidays.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 29 Dec 2013, 17:15

tommykl wrote:
This wrote:How much would it cost me to ship one or two cars to the US? There might be some chances for a good result over there...

And that Maserati better qualify for Monza, or else we will not continue with Maserati!

Shipping costs would be somewhere between £15 000 and £20 000.

Alright, then i'll ship the Bentley to the US for Pilette, and i'll wait the result of Italy to confirm the second car.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 29 Dec 2013, 17:52

Finishing ahead of four cars, including the factory Bentleys - what a way to end our season!

Post by **tommykl** » 30 Dec 2013, 11:05

Post-race report
Injuries
Nothing to see here, move along...

Repair costs
Maurice Trintignant's chassis (Aston Martin AM-04 chassis 1) - £287
Consalvo Sanesi's engine (Gordini ART-004 engine 2) - £13 277
Fred Wacker's engine (Jaguar JFE-2 engine 5) - £539
Stirling Moss' engine (Alfa Romeo ARV8 engine 2) - £16 340
Juan Manuel Fangio's chassis (Ferrari 555 chassis 3) - £1 292
Stan Jones' chassis (Maserati AM53 chassis 6) - £3 592
Eric Brandon's engine (Mercedes UM153 engine 13) - £4 905
Peter Whitehead's chassis (Alfa Romeo AR160 chassis 3) - £4 563
Aldo Gordini's chassis (Alfa Romeo AR160 chassis 4) - £4 854
Giovanni Bracco's engine (Alfa Romeo ARV8 engine 4) - £8 142

Prize money
B. Bira - £2 000
José Froilan Gonzalez - £1 980
Reg Parnell - £1 980
Edgar Barth - £1 980
Dries van der Lof - £1 959
Porfirio Rubirosa - £1 959
Lance Macklin - £1 939
Piero Taruffi - £1 939
Maria Teresa de Filippis - £1 939
Maurice Trintignant - £1 918
Ken Wharton - £1 918
Rudi Fischer - £1 918
Johnny Claes - £1 898
Geoff Richardson - £1 878
Manfred von Brauchitsch - £1 878
Consalvo Sanesi - £1 694
Robert Manzon - £1 694
Fred Wacker - £1 592
Tony Bettenhausen - £1 510
Stirling Moss - £1 469
Peter Collins - £1 429
Dorino Serafini - £1 286
Juan Manuel Fangio - £1 245
Stan Jones - £1 245
Nello Pagani - £1 204
Eric Brandon - £1 204
Giuseppe Farina - £1 184
Peter Whitehead - £1 143
Aldo Gordini - £1 122
Giovanni Bracco - £1 000
Lex Davison - £500
Roberto Mieres - £500
Duncan Hamilton - £500
Chico Landi - £500
Paul Frère - £500
Günther Bechem - £500

After such an epic race, I'm tempted to give a shite-load of prize money...Switzerland's pretty rich, right? They'll give £328 000 to add to the £72 000 from entry fees to make for £400 000, once again split in half. The top 20 get prize money, but this time in increments of £500, making for £105 000. Same for the top 15 in increments of £250, a total of £135 000. And again for the top ten in increments of £500, for a total of £162 500. And again for the top five in increments of £1 000, bringing the total to £175 500. Then the podium in increments of £2 000 to get £187 500, leaving £12 500. The top two each get more money in increments of £3 000, leaving £3 500, which go to the fastest lap scorer.

B. Bira - £35 750
José Froilan Gonzalez - £28 500
Reg Parnell - £21 250
Edgar Barth - £17 000
Dries van der Lof - £14 750
Porfirio Rubirosa - £12 500
Lance Macklin - £11 250
Piero Taruffi - £10 000
Maria Teresa de Filippis - £8 750
Maurice Trintignant - £7 500
Ken Wharton - £6 250
Rudi Fischer - £5 500
Johnny Claes - £4 750
Tony Bettenhausen - £4 500
Geoff Richardson - £4 000
Manfred von Brauchitsch - £3 250
Consalvo Sanesi - £2 500
Robert Manzon - £2 000
Fred Wacker - £1 500
Stirling Moss - £500

Budgets, once again, updated. Pycku, repairs have been automatically carried out as requested.

simonracer · Post by **simonracer** » 30 Dec 2013, 11:17

We (Redman) will repair the broken chassis.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 30 Dec 2013, 11:17

Jaguar will pay for the repairs of the Anglo Racing Engineering engine.

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 30 Dec 2013, 13:05

Wizzie wrote:Jaguar will pay for the repairs of the Anglo Racing Engineering engine.

Anglo Racing Engineering thanks you paying for the engine repair, the team feels that we should contribute in some way so we will half the cost, and we will hope to remain a jaguar engine customer for 1954

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 30 Dec 2013, 14:14

I'll gladly fix Trintignant's chassis. With the rich payouts, I might persuade more people to race in Switzerland

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 30 Dec 2013, 14:30

Alfa Romeo to pay all repairs. Stirling Moss's car repairs will come from his pay check...

Post by **tommykl** » 30 Dec 2013, 14:49

Aerospeed wrote:I'll gladly fix Trintignant's chassis. With the rich payouts, I might persuade more people to race in Switzerland

Don't forget that East Londoner has asked you to pay for his damaged chassis

peteroli34 wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Jaguar will pay for the repairs of the Anglo Racing Engineering engine.

Anglo Racing Engineering thanks you paying for the engine repair, the team feels that we should contribute in some way so we will half the cost, and we will hope to remain a jaguar engine customer for 1954

It's only 270 quid anyway

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 30 Dec 2013, 16:14

tommykl wrote:
Aerospeed wrote:I'll gladly fix Trintignant's chassis. With the rich payouts, I might persuade more people to race in Switzerland

Don't forget that East Londoner has asked you to pay for his damaged chassis

I'd be happy to, but I'm unsure how much the bill is.

Post by **tommykl** » 30 Dec 2013, 17:05

Aerospeed wrote:
tommykl wrote:
Aerospeed wrote:I'll gladly fix Trintignant's chassis. With the rich payouts, I might persuade more people to race in Switzerland

Don't forget that East Londoner has asked you to pay for his damaged chassis

I'd be happy to, but I'm unsure how much the bill is.

It's a tad over £9 000.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 30 Dec 2013, 17:07

Sounds reasonable.

Post by **tommykl** » 30 Dec 2013, 17:09

Aerospeed wrote:Sounds reasonable.

It's a deal then

You could use an other Aston Martin user really, it'll get you even more cash at the end of the season

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 02 Jan 2014, 20:17

With the great result for team Ultimate I shall enter a full car line up for Monza

Ultimate - Osca: Edgar Barth

Ferrari America
Ferrari 555 - Troy Ruttman
Ferrari 550 - Harry Schell
Ferrari 550 - Toulou De Graffenreid

Whilst For Sebring

The Ferrari 555 will be driven by Troy Ruttman and Harry Schell will debut for Ultimate - Osca.

I also remind everyone that the Ultimate OSCA 2nd car will be avaliable for purchase for the reaming 2 rounds, please inquire if interested.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 02 Jan 2014, 20:36

tommykl wrote:
Aerospeed wrote:Sounds reasonable.

It's a deal then

You could use another Aston Martin user really, it'll get you even more cash at the end of the season

Really?

One Aston Martin Chassis available for the first person who wants one for £25k.

Post by **tommykl** » 02 Jan 2014, 20:49

Aerospeed wrote:
tommykl wrote:
Aerospeed wrote:Sounds reasonable.

It's a deal then

You could use another Aston Martin user really, it'll get you even more cash at the end of the season

Really?

One Aston Martin Chassis available for the first person who wants one for £25k.

Sorry, I don't think I worded that very well

I meant that it was about time Hampshire got his chassis fixed, since he's your best shot at points in an Aston chassis with an engine that isn't Jaguar

Although I believe B.R.U.N.E.L. still haven't bought a chassis for Sebring...

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 02 Jan 2014, 22:17

We are open to make any repairs to Jones or Brandon's parts if their teams needs of it

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 02 Jan 2014, 22:31

tommykl wrote:Although I believe B.R.U.N.E.L. still haven't bought a chassis for Sebring...

Who do I need to negotiate with, and which chassis are available to select from?

Post by **tommykl** » 03 Jan 2014, 07:01

dr-baker wrote:
tommykl wrote:Although I believe B.R.U.N.E.L. still haven't bought a chassis for Sebring...

Who do I need to negotiate with, and which chassis are available to select from?

If you want to purchase a chassis from the factory, negotiation isn't necessary, but recommended. You might also be able to buy or lease unused cars from privateers. I believe ENB have made a car available for leasing, but I'm not totally sure.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 03 Jan 2014, 11:14

tommykl wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
tommykl wrote:Although I believe B.R.U.N.E.L. still haven't bought a chassis for Sebring...

Who do I need to negotiate with, and which chassis are available to select from?

If you want to purchase a chassis from the factory, negotiation isn't necessary, but recommended. You might also be able to buy or lease unused cars from privateers. I believe ENB have made a car available for leasing, but I'm not totally sure.

If I purchase a factory car, will I be able to continue using it next year without additional expense (save for repairs)? If so, that's what I'll do.

Post by **tommykl** » 03 Jan 2014, 13:56

dr-baker wrote:
tommykl wrote:
dr-baker wrote:Who do I need to negotiate with, and which chassis are available to select from?

If you want to purchase a chassis from the factory, negotiation isn't necessary, but recommended. You might also be able to buy or lease unused cars from privateers. I believe ENB have made a car available for leasing, but I'm not totally sure.

If I purchase a factory car, will I be able to continue using it next year without additional expense (save for repairs)? If so, that's what I'll do.

You can indeed, although there will be chassis and engine aging involved...

Post by **tommykl** » 03 Jan 2014, 17:18

Alright, three users have failed to state what they wish to do regarding repair costs, namely peteroli34, the Masked Lapwing and Samster. Phoenix also needs to specify which engine he'll put in his car (if he wants to be there in Italy).

You guys have until Sunday at noon EST, or else the corresponding entries will be pulled, as usual.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 03 Jan 2014, 17:46

tommykl wrote:
dr-baker wrote:If I purchase a factory car, will I be able to continue using it next year without additional expense (save for repairs)? If so, that's what I'll do.

You can indeed, although there will be chassis and engine aging involved...

I will do this then! How's my budget looking? And how would my budget look for next year?

Post by **tommykl** » 03 Jan 2014, 18:17

dr-baker wrote:
tommykl wrote:
dr-baker wrote:If I purchase a factory car, will I be able to continue using it next year without additional expense (save for repairs)? If so, that's what I'll do.

You can indeed, although there will be chassis and engine aging involved...

I will do this then! How's my budget looking? And how would my budget look for next year?

You have £83 000. The trip to Sebring and back would cost approximately £18 000, plus £2 000 as an entry fee. Say a decent chassis costs around £25 000, that would leave you £35 000 plus prize money, which all depends on your performance

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 03 Jan 2014, 18:40

And Leader are always offering their decent cars at low prices

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 03 Jan 2014, 18:51

Gordini Will not repair the damaged engine instead we will build a fresh unit for Sanesi to try an help him in his championship quest.

Therefore the Gordini ART-004 engine 2 will be avliable for any team to take of our hands all they have to do is repair it

Post by **tommykl** » 03 Jan 2014, 19:15

peteroli34 wrote:Gordini Will not repair the damaged engine instead we will build a fresh unit for Sanesi to try an help him in his championship quest.

Therefore the Gordini ART-004 engine 2 will be avliable for any team to take of our hands all they have to do is repair it

If you want one suggestion, repair the engine instead of building a new one. It's the best one out there after all the upgrades, and repairing it is marginally cheaper than building one.

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 03 Jan 2014, 19:26

tommykl wrote:
peteroli34 wrote:Gordini Will not repair the damaged engine instead we will build a fresh unit for Sanesi to try an help him in his championship quest.

Therefore the Gordini ART-004 engine 2 will be avliable for any team to take of our hands all they have to do is repair it

If you want one suggestion, repair the engine instead of building a new one. It's the best one out there after all the upgrades, and repairing it is marginally cheaper than building one.

Alright if thats the best option then it will be repaired

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 03 Jan 2014, 20:32

Ambrosiana will repair Bracco's engine.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 03 Jan 2014, 21:29

Ferrari will repair Fangio's chassis.

And dr-baker, you can always pick up a Ferrari 550 chassis and engine combo for a mere £29 500

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 03 Jan 2014, 21:33

OSCA don't have any chassis available for lease, as both are taken by Bardahl for Sebring, but you can always buy one for 25 000.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 03 Jan 2014, 21:35

Well, F. H. Warden have no use for their Bentley-Jaguar for the last couple of races so we could lease it...

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 03 Jan 2014, 22:29

tommykl, dr-baker, tommykl, dr-baker wrote:Blah, blah, blah...
You have £83 000. The trip to Sebring and back would cost approximately £18 000, plus £2 000 as an entry fee. Say a decent chassis costs around £25 000, that would leave you £35 000 plus prize money, which all depends on your performance

pycku wrote:And Leader are always offering their decent cars at low prices

the Masked Lapwing wrote:And dr-baker, you can always pick up a Ferrari 550 chassis and engine combo for a mere £29 500

pi314159 wrote:OSCA don't have any chassis available for lease, as both are taken by Bardahl for Sebring, but you can always buy one for 25 000.

Nuppiz wrote:Well, F. H. Warden have no use for their Bentley-Jaguar for the last couple of races so we could lease it...

Well, in the first post of this thread, I seem to already have an engine decided, and only a chassis to be allocated, so I think my decision has been made (by me several months ago). Just need to complete the purchase and have a chassis allocated.

tommykl wrote:United States Grand Prix - 32 starters

23. Maria Teresa de Filippis (BRUNEL) - Bentley chassis TBA, Bentley 163-1 engine 7

Post by **tommykl** » 05 Jan 2014, 11:06

Alright, so the entry list is closed, Phoenix will once again forfeit after failing to find an engine in time.

Ferrari America and Scuderia Ambrosiana still have TBAs on their entries though. I need Samster to announce whether or not he will fulfill his third entry and if so with which driver, chassis and engine, and Shadaza needs to state which driver gets which Ferrari 550.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 05 Jan 2014, 17:46

After the Italian GP, ENB will sell the Maserati chassis, because it's hasn't delivered the performance a high-profile privateer like ENB expected. Price is negotiable. Ideal car for starters! Has received a bit of upgrades, often outperformed the works Maseratis!
So that means for the US GP, the second car will be the Jag-Aston, which we will get repaired.