Alternate F1 - The Current Era (2011 is GO!)

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 20 Sep 2013, 13:50

Onxy Wrecked wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
Salamander wrote:
Ferrari protests the legality of these parts.

Rather that protest the legality, Mercedes will laugh at Stefan GP for the sheer pointlessness of their upgrades as the winning strategy has been zero stops for the entire season anyway

Actually, I've changed my mind. We'll protest them as well

This is actually now in hindsight sort of comedic as I didn't realize how pointless they were. The components will never see the light of day now that it has been mentioned there isn't any pit stops.

Ferrari have considered this and are still protesting.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 20 Sep 2013, 16:12

2010 Targobank Großer Preis von Deutschland I - Race

Note: Car #2 (Kimi Räikkönen was handed a ten-second penalty for causing an avoidable accident involving Car #18 (Rhys Davies)

-- Positives --
Fernando Alonso - it's about being there when the competition fails and that is what Alonso did to take a well-deserved first place.

Jenson Button - a great and controlled drive, while he could not stop Alonso from winning he held on to what turned into second place.

Kimi Räikkönen after Lap 1 - after an awful first lap, he drove great and got what amounted to a podium in on-track performance.

Sammy Jones - after the first laps Jones was on bloody fire and earned her good position.

Christian Klien - A seventh place and IIDOTR might have secured his drive for the rest of the year.

Negatives:
Kimi Räikkönen before Lap 2 - an amateurish mistake whilst fighting Klien causes Räikkönen to end Davies's race and earn ROTR and a penalty.

Stefan Grand Prix - they did score again but their days of annoying the top teams in 2010 seem over for sure.

Lewis Hamilton - a completely horrible and unneccesary spin cost him points and ruined a chance to solidify his championship lead.

Dave Simpson - apparentely BMW Sauber cannot have two competent drivers at the same time.

Adrian Sutil - a good qualifying amounted to nothing in the race before it was ended by a transmission failure.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 20 Sep 2013, 16:29

Fantastic. We need more races like that.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 20 Sep 2013, 17:05

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2010 Targobank Großer Preis von Deutschland II - Qualifying

1. Sebastian Vettel / Red Bull-Renault - 1:06.058
2. Daniel Melrose / Mercedes - 1:06.292
3. Sebastién Bourdais / Red Bull-Renault - 1:06.621
4. Robert Kubica / Ferrari - 1:06.799
5. Kimi Räikkönen / Mercedes - 1:06.828
6. Jacques Villeneuve / Stefan-Toyota - 1:06.884
7. Rhys Davies / Williams-Honda - 1:06.931
8. Lewis Hamilton / McLaren-Mercedes - 1:06.937
9. Fernando Alonso / Ferrari - 1:07.029
10. Christian Klien / BMW Sauber - 1:07.130
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11. Jenson Button / McLaren-Mercedes - 1:07.077
12. Adrian Sutil / Force India-Mercedes - 1:07.084
13. Sammy Jones / Renault - 1:07.095
14. Nick Heidfeld / Williams-Honda - 1:07.172
15. Dave Simpson / BMW Sauber - 1:07.184
16. Kazuki Nakajima / Stefan-Toyota - 1:07.202
17. Romain Grosjean / Renault - 1:07.350
18. Karun Chandhok / Force India-Mercedes - 1:07.705
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19. Takuma Sato / Super Aguri-Honda - 1:07.507
20. Mark Webber / Lola-Mercedes - 1:07.581
21. Nathan McKane / HRT-Renault - 1:07.595
22. Andrea Acuri / Super Aguri-Honda - 1:07.881
23. Bruno Senna / HRT-Renault - 1:08.061
24. John Bovy / Lola-Mercedes - 1:08.067
25. T. Hemo Goblin / USF1-Ferrari - 1:08.718
26. Luca Badoer / USF1-Ferrari - 1:08.890

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 20 Sep 2013, 23:32

Salamander wrote:
Onxy Wrecked wrote:This is actually now in hindsight sort of comedic as I didn't realize how pointless they were. The components will never see the light of day now that it has been mentioned there isn't any pit stops.

Ferrari have considered this and are still protesting.

Indeed, you do have a point as we are possibly entering into a point of development wars. The fact Zoran is preferring to fine tune the 2010 car over developing the 2011 is troubling for the fate of Stefan GP as next year's car is unlikely to be as competitive as this season's car.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 21 Sep 2013, 09:46

Onxy Wrecked wrote:
Salamander wrote:
Onxy Wrecked wrote:This is actually now in hindsight sort of comedic as I didn't realize how pointless they were. The components will never see the light of day now that it has been mentioned there isn't any pit stops.

Ferrari have considered this and are still protesting.

Indeed, you do have a point as we are possibly entering into a point of development wars. The fact Zoran is preferring to fine tune the 2010 car over developing the 2011 is troubling for the fate of Stefan GP as next year's car is unlikely to be as competitive as this season's car.

Ferrari have considered this and are still protesting.

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 21 Sep 2013, 15:25

Salamander wrote:Ferrari have considered this and are still protesting.

Understandable as to avoid the possibility of car development war between the mid-table teams in particular trying to make wild moves in hopes of possibly winning a race or two.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 21 Sep 2013, 23:59

2010 Targobank Großer Preis von Deutschland II - Race

Note: Car #6 (Jenson Button) was handed a suspended two-race ban and McLaren were fined for €5,000,000 for dangerous driving.

-- Positives --
Daniel Melrose - a dominant win leading to another chance in the championship with only 10 points in it.

Ferrari's Drivers - great job by both to take third and fourth and get closer to taking the WCC lead.

Jacques Villeneuve - the Canadian has so far not been stopped by Stefan losing their edge which earns him IIDOTR today.

Sammy Jones - another good drive for another good set of points.

Nathan McKane - once more "Best Of The Bottom" for as much as that is worth.

Negatives:
Lewis Hamilton - his last races were all not very neat and his lead in the driver's championship is almost gone. He has to pick it up soon.

Kimi Räikkönen - Mercedes really are not pleased with the Finn and his spin (hue!) didn't help him at all.

Jenson Button - having your engine dying on you is not bad but driving around for two laps and earning ROTR with that is.

Nick Heidfeld - his heroic charge sadly came to an end in todays race, he just was not competitive at all and paid the price for it.

Kazuki Nakajima - the Japanese driver was slow and then dishonoured his team and his family with an awful spin.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 22 Sep 2013, 00:14

2010 Telefónica Grande Premio de España I - Qualifying

1. Sebastian Vettel / Red Bull-Renault - 1:37.377
2. Lewis Hamilton / McLaren-Mercedes - 1:38.041
3. Daniel Melrose / Mercedes - 1:38.100
4. Rhys Davies / Williams-Honda - 1:38.135
5. Robert Kubica / Ferrari - 1:38.302
6. Nick Heidfeld / Williams-Honda - 1:38.385
7. Jenson Button / McLaren-Mercedes - 1:38.413
8. Jacques Villeneuve / Stefan-Toyota - 1:38.420
9. Kimi Räikkönen / Mercedes - 1:38.427
10. Fernando Alonso / Ferrari - 1:38.556
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11. Sebastién Bourdais / Red Bull-Renault - 1:38.663
12. Adrian Sutil / Force India-Mercedes - 1:38.681
13. Sammy Jones / Renault - 1:38.687
14. Dave Simpson / BMW Sauber - 1:38.697
15. Romain Grosjean / Renault - 1:38.848
16. Christian Klien / BMW Sauber - 1:38.861
17. Kazuki Nakajima / Stefan-Toyota - 1:38.974
18. Mark Webber / Lola-Mercedes - 1:38.990
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19. Nathan McKane / HRT-Renault - 1:39.394
20. Karun Chandhok / Force India-Mercedes - 1:39.506
21. Takuma Sato / Super Aguri-Honda - 1:39.682
22. John Bovy / Lola-Mercedes - 1:39.901
23. Bruno Senna / HRT-Renault - 1:40.322
24. Luca Badoer / USF1-Ferrari - 1:40.397
25. Andrea Acuri / Super Aguri-Honda - 1:40.521
26. T. Hemo Goblin / USF1-Ferrari - 1:40.540

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 23 Sep 2013, 13:50

OK, time to publish my first announcement as the Renault team owner.

Sammy Jones will be kept as one of the official test drivers for 2011, but Romain Grosjean will not continue. I'd like to make separate bids for Jenson Button and Robert Kubica. I'll publish more details later.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 23 Sep 2013, 16:04

Phoenix wrote:OK, time to publish my first announcement as the Renault team owner.

Sammy Jones will be kept as one of the official test drivers for 2011, but Romain Grosjean will not continue. I'd like to make separate bids for Jenson Button and Robert Kubica. I'll publish more details later.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA piss off.

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 23 Sep 2013, 16:14

Phoenix wrote:OK, time to publish my first announcement as the Renault team owner.

Sammy Jones will be kept as one of the official test drivers for 2011, but Romain Grosjean will not continue. I'd like to make separate bids for Jenson Button and Robert Kubica. I'll publish more details later.

JB is still under contract with McLaren, and the Woking squad is not going to lose his talent in short terms.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 23 Sep 2013, 18:24

Telefónica Grande Premio de España I - Race

Note: Car #10 (Robert Kubica) was handed a ten-second penalty for dangerous driving and causing a avoidable accidents involving Car #1 (Daniel Melrose) and Car #2 (Kimi Räikkönen)

-- Positives --
Rhys Davies - a historic win for Williams, their first one since the 2004 Brazilian Grand Prix, and IIDOTR all thanks due to his persistance.

Daniel Melrose - while his start was bad his drive from then on was heroic, he was the only one to break the Rhys Railway.

Kimi Räikkönen - for once he was not significantly slower than Melrose and deserves his points.

Nick Heidfeld - while his team mate was the man of the hour, Heidfeld still performed very well.

Sammy Jones - good job for two pretty points for Renault.

Negatives:
Robert Kubica - he spoiled a great race by acting like a complete tool on the last lap, getting involved with both Mercedes cars.

Stefan Grand Prix - a disappointing race ends Villeneuve's streak of 12 consecutive points finishes.

BMW Sauber - after a reasonably good performance in the last few races they are back to their old, slow, selves.

Jenson Button - spintastic performance leaves the Brit again without points and taking six laps to pass two Super Aguris is fail in itself.

T. Hemo Goblin - ROTR for running into the back of a parked car.

OOC: pycku, we need to talk a bit in the chat. Could you tell me when you are free so I can arrange things?

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 23 Sep 2013, 18:55

2010 Telefónica Grande Premio de España II - Qualifying

1. Sebastian Vettel / Red Bull-Renault - 1:37.932
2. Daniel Melrose / Mercedes - 1:38.050
3. Kimi Räikkönen / Mercedes - 1:38.483
4. Lewis Hamilton / McLaren-Mercedes - 1:38.515
5. Fernando Alonso / Ferrari - 1:38.527
6. Sammy Jones / Renault - 1:38.557
7. Jacques Villeneuve / Stefan-Toyota - 1:38.561
8. Romain Grosjean / Renault - 1:38.600
9. Adrian Sutil / Force India-Mercedes - 1:38.661
10. Jenson Button / McLaren-Mercedes - 1:38.665
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11. Sebastién Bourdais / Red Bull-Renault - 1:38.754
12. Rhys Davies / Williams-Honda - 1:38.806
13. Robert Kubica / Ferrari - 1:38.841
14. Christian Klien / BMW Sauber - 1:38.893
15. Mark Webber / Lola-Mercedes - 1:38.899
16. Nick Heidfeld / Williams-Honda - 1:38.974
17. Dave Simpson / BMW Sauber - 1:39.046
18. Karun Chandhok / Force India-Mercedes - 1:39.074
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19. Kazuki Nakajima / Stefan-Toyota - 1:39.261
20. Takuma Sato / Super Aguri-Honda - 1:39.272
19. Nathan McKane / HRT-Renault - 1:39.394
22. John Bovy / Lola-Mercedes - 1:39.901
23. Andrea Acuri / Super Aguri-Honda - 1:40.005
24. Bruno Senna / HRT-Renault - 1:40.051
25. T. Hemo Goblin / USF1-Ferrari - 1:40.080
26. Luca Badoer / USF1-Ferrari - 1:40.424

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 23 Sep 2013, 19:18

Klon wrote:[size=150]

OOC: pycku, we need to talk a bit in the chat. Could you tell me when you are free so I can arrange things?

i'm free now. whats the matter?

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 23 Sep 2013, 22:01

Telefónica Grande Premio de España II - Race

Note: Car #18 (Rhys Davies) has been given a race ban for disregarding blue flags and causing an avoidable accident involving Car #1 (Daniel Melrose).

-- Positives --
Daniel Melrose - to take the lead of the championship with such an impressive win must make Melrose a happy man.

Adrian Sutil - another great job in race two to steal some good points.

Christian Klien - now he has moved the threat of losing his job to his team mate.

Mark Webber - obvious IIDOTR for hauling the Lola-Mercedes to a point.

Lewis Hamilton - a very good fight back up the order in a race with few overtaking moves.

Negatives:
Sebastien Bourdais - 24 seconds behind Vettel is not good news in the Red Bull team battle.

Kazuki Nakajima - not getting past Mark Webber is simply unacceptable for Stefan GP.

Dave Simpson - he has slacked off and now faces significant pressure from the team

Williams - an electrical problem for Heidfeld and ROTR for Davies trying to end Melrose's race (or not get lapped, the jury is still out on it).

T. Hemo Goblin - lost his front wing on the first lap and never did anything of value afterwards.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 23 Sep 2013, 22:05

Two driver changes:
Nico Hülkenberg once again joins Williams, this time to replace Rhys Davies. The chance is so close to 100 % that no RNG is needed.

Super Aguri is looking at replacing Andrea Acuri with Michael Schumacher. I think this needs an RNG:
0-5: Schumacher comes back and tries to add another chapter to his legend
6-100: Schumacher stays in retirement
... 4 ... Schumacher comes out of retirement to join Super Aguri of all teams!

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 23 Sep 2013, 22:27

Klon wrote:Two driver changes:
Nico Hülkenberg once again joins Williams, this time to replace Rhys Davies. The chance is so close to 100 % that no RNG is needed.

Super Aguri is looking at replacing Andrea Acuri with Michael Schumacher. I think this needs an RNG:
0-5: Schumacher comes back and tries to add another chapter to his legend
6-100: Schumacher stays in retirement
... 4 ... Schumacher comes out of retirement to join Super Aguri of all teams!

Oh god, this I gotta see :lol:

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 23 Sep 2013, 22:38

This is what I would like to see

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 24 Sep 2013, 07:03

Woo-hoo!
Surely we had a long list of drivers to replace Acuri, but Michael Schumacher was on the top! We are more than happy that such a legend in motorsports believed in our project and decided to join us. Surely, this deal is long term one, as Michael is not planning to return just for a couple of races. At the moment we are preparing his cockpit, while he is testing our simulator. We are very different from Ferrari in many aspects, but what makes us closer is the passion, and this was our weapon to persuade Michael join us. This states clearly our ambition to stay in the sport and develop even further, and our purpose is to fight for podiums next year. In three years time we must be a top team, battling with the others for the championship. Sounds too optimistic, maybe, but hey, we are Super Aguri and we have Super Michael!"

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 24 Sep 2013, 22:48

2010 Caffe Nicchi Gran Premio d'Italia I - Qualifying

1. Sebastian Vettel / Red Bull-Renault - 1:21.776
2. Sammy Jones / Renault - 1:21.993
3. Daniel Melrose / Mercedes - 1:21.994
4. Romain Grosjean / Renault - 1:22.011
5. Jacques Villeneuve / Stefan-Toyota - 1:22.025
6. Dave Simpson / BMW Sauber - 1:22.170
7. Jenson Button / McLaren-Mercedes - 1:22.203
8. Robert Kubica / Ferrari - 1:22.222
9. Christian Klien / BMW Sauber - 1:22.261
10. Fernando Alonso / Ferrari - 1:22.323
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11. Kimi Räikkönen / Mercedes - 1:22.354
12. Nick Heidfeld / Williams-Honda - 1:22.355
13. Lewis Hamilton / McLaren-Mercedes - 1:22.378
14. Nico Hülkenberg / Williams-Honda - 1:22.388
15. Sebastién Bourdais / Red Bull-Renault - 1:22.461
16. Adrian Sutil / Force India-Mercedes - 1:22.508
17. Mark Webber / Lola-Mercedes - 1:22.715
18. Kazuki Nakajima / Stefan-Toyota - 1:22.754
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19. Karun Chandhok / Force India-Mercedes - 1:22.669
20. Nathan McKane / HRT-Renault - 1:22.636
21. Takuma Sato / Super Aguri-Honda - 1:22.676
22. Michael Schumacher / Super Aguri-Honda - 1:22.945
23. Bruno Senna / HRT-Renault - 1:23.601
24. John Bovy / Lola-Mercedes - 1:23.662
25. T. Hemo Goblin / USF1-Ferrari - 1:23.787
26. Luca Badoer / USF1-Ferrari - 1:23.903

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 25 Sep 2013, 00:00

2010 Caffe Nicchi Gran Premio d'Italia I - Race

-- Positives --
Robert Kubica - winning in front of the Ferrari fans is a great feeling and Kubica richely deserves it.

Romain Grosjean - awesome drive to get his first leading lap in F1, his first F1 podium and IIDOTR.

Jenson Button - a huge thorn in Vettel's side and just superior to his team mate.

BMW Sauber - extremely competitive and they have less points than they could have had.

Nathan McKane - bad spin shortly before the end but a heroic and great drive before that.

Negatives:
Kimi Räikkönen - 2 points betray the fact that he has apparentely completely given up on F1.

Force India - on a track where their supposedly superior Mercedes power was to pay off, they were simply atrocious; got themselves a well deserved ROTR.

Williams - just slow after expectations were high, given their success at the Fuji circuit.

Sebastién Bourdais - absolutely nowhere before his engine exploded, not a great drive by the Frenchman.

Michael Schumacher - his first race back in F1 was not successful, an incident at the start put him at the back of the field and just as he began to make ground up his Honda engine gave up.

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 25 Sep 2013, 00:21

It looks like the Stefan cars are a bit better at straight line speed than we thought, but the cars are not half of what they are on high downforce tracks.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 26 Sep 2013, 08:38

2010 Caffe Nicchi Gran Premio d'Italia II - Qualifying

1. Sebastian Vettel / Red Bull-Renault - 1:21.776
2. Christian Klien / BMW Sauber - 1:21.932
3. Daniel Melrose / Mercedes - 1:21.994
4. Kimi Räikkönen / Mercedes - 1:21.996
5. Dave Simpson / BMW Sauber - 1:22.102
6. Adrian Sutil / Force India-Mercedes - 1:22.162
7. Lewis Hamilton / McLaren-Mercedes - 1:22.177
8. Rhys Davies / Williams-Honda - 1:22.206
9. Sebastién Bourdais / Red Bull-Renault - 1:22.256
10. Fernando Alonso / Ferrari - 1:22.283
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11. Karun Chandhok / Force India-Mercedes - 1:22.311
12. Jacques Villeneuve / Stefan-Toyota - 1:22.412
13. Jenson Button / McLaren-Mercedes - 1:22.466
14. Robert Kubica / Ferrari - 1:22.471
15. Sammy Jones / Renault - 1:22.499
16. Takuma Sato / Super Aguri-Honda - 1:22.516
17. Nick Heidfeld / Williams-Honda - 1:22.702
18. Kazuki Nakajima / Stefan-Toyota - 1:22.710
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19. Romain Grosjean / Renault - 1:22.782
20. Michael Schumacher / Super Aguri-Honda - 1:22.801
21. Nathan McKane / HRT-Renault - 1:23.101
22. Mark Webber / Lola-Mercedes - 1:23.208
23. John Bovy / Lola-Mercedes - 1:23.464
24. T. Hemo Goblin / USF1-Ferrari - 1:23.678
25. Bruno Senna / HRT-Renault - 1:23.845
26. Luca Badoer / USF1-Ferrari - 1:23.882

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 26 Sep 2013, 14:14

2010 Caffe Nicchi Gran Premio d'Italia II - Race

-- Positives --
Kimi Räikkönen - Daniel Melrose might not be pleased about it but Räikkönen drove a flawless race and deserved the win.

Christian Klien - fully deserved IIDOTR for an awesome drive.

Dave Simpson - while his team mate was the star, Simpson still had an impressive run.

Rhys Davies - he was about the only Williams driver this weekend who could get anything done with the car.

Michael Schumacher - admittedly him pushing Takuma Sato off the track on lap 1 was a bit too hard, his drive was impressive and his battle with Vettel was fun to look at.

Negatives:
Force India - once again their engine performance is not acceptable, especially given their 2009 runs at high-speed venues.

Renault - the mighty fell and they fell badly, grabbing ROTR in the process.

Sebastian Vettel - throttle problems may not have been his fault, but his failure to recover afterwards was.

Kazuki Nakajima - his team mate was robbed by a puncture but Nakajima never was even remotely good enough to be robbed, technical failures or not.

T. Hemo Goblin - blocking both of the leaders in the final stages of the race is not too cool, he can be lucky the stewards couldn't be bothered to think of a penalty.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 27 Sep 2013, 22:46

2010 Eni Magyar Nagydij I - Qualifying

1. Sebastian Vettel / Red Bull-Renault - 1:20.537
2. Lewis Hamilton / McLaren-Mercedes - 1:21.391
3. Fernando Alonso / Ferrari - 1:21.530
4. Robert Kubica / Ferrari - 1:21.546
5. Daniel Melrose / Mercedes - 1:21.563
6. Sebastién Bourdais / Red Bull-Renault - 1:21.725
7. Nick Heidfeld / Williams-Honda - 1:21.850
8. Kimi Räikkönen / Mercedes - 1:21.996
9. Jenson Button / McLaren-Mercedes - 1:21.954
10. Sammy Jones / Renault - 1:22.012
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11. Rhys Davies / Williams-Honda - 1:21.933
12. Jacques Villeneuve / Stefan-Toyota - 1:22.182
13. Romain Grosjean / Renault - 1:22.215
14. Dave Simpson / BMW Sauber - 1:22.281
15. Adrian Sutil / Force India-Mercedes - 1:22.282
16. Karun Chandhok / Force India-Mercedes - 1:22.57
18. Kazuki Nakajima / Stefan-Toyota - 1:22.815
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19. Michael Schumacher / Super Aguri-Honda - 1:22.877
20. Mark Webber / Lola-Mercedes - 1:22.920
21. Takuma Sato / Super Aguri-Honda - 1:22.932
22. Nathan McKane / HRT-Renault - 1:22.944
23. John Bovy / Lola-Mercedes - 1:23.735
24. T. Hemo Goblin / USF1-Ferrari - 1:24.040
25. Bruno Senna / HRT-Renault - 1:24.134
26. Luca Badoer / USF1-Ferrari - 1:24.452

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 28 Sep 2013, 09:14

Ferrari row 2 lockout? I like the looks of this.

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 28 Sep 2013, 11:48

With Lew finally free of the ballast, he can finally do what he's best at: pure racing

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 28 Sep 2013, 20:38

2010 Eni Magyar Nagydij I - Race

Note: Car #9 (Fernando Alonso) was excluded from the race results for an illegal fuel stop; Ferrari were fined €5.000.000.
Note: Car #26 (Nathan McKane) was excluded from the race results for an illegal fuel stop; HRT were fined €5.000.000. This triggers Nathan McKane's suspended two-race ban.

-- Positives --
Robert Kubica - A good start with no mistakes mean another good win for the Ferrari driver.

Lewis Hamilton - may feel like he should have gotten more out of this race but still drove fairly well.

Sebastién Bourdais - unlike his team mate he never screwed up and deserves P3.

Romain Grosjean - IIDOTR for making no major mistakes and managing his fuel levels properly.

Sammy Jones - was where Grosjean ended up until he ran out of fuel.

Negatives:
Fuel Economy - running out of fuel is a shame, especially on the last laps: shame upon Nakajima, Sutil and Jones for not managing to keep their fuel use in check.

Luca Badoer - even though Alonso and McKane got disqualified, spinning three times over the course of twenty-something laps is a sure-fire ROTR

BMW Sauber - both cars retiring with different issues on the same lap just makes your entire team look bad.

Fernando Alonso - spinning and getting DSQed for refueling illegaly is not neat at all.

Nathan McKane - illegaly refueling and running into Michael Schumacher is outreagously bad, he will have a lot of time to think about his errors today.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 28 Sep 2013, 20:54

2010 Eni Magyar Nagydij II - Qualifying

1. Sebastian Vettel / Red Bull-Renault - 1:20.762
2. Daniel Melrose / Mercedes - 1:21.050
3. Sebastién Bourdais / Red Bull-Renault - 1:21.194
4. Kimi Räikkönen / Mercedes - 1:21.660
5. Lewis Hamilton / McLaren-Mercedes - 1:21.739
6. Jacques Villeneuve / Stefan-Toyota - 1:21.806
7. Fernando Alonso / Ferrari - 1:21.837
8. Nick Heidfeld / Williams-Honda - 1:21.985
9. Adrian Sutil / Force India-Mercedes - 1:21.986
10. Jenson Button / McLaren-Mercedes - 1:22.081
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11. Romain Grosjean / Renault - 1:21.913
12. Robert Kubica / Ferrari - 1:22.034
13. Rhys Davies / Williams-Honda - 1:22.087
14. Sammy Jones / Renault - 1:22.099
15. Dave Simpson / BMW Sauber - 1:22.116
16. Christian Klien / BMW Sauber - 1:22.125
17. Kazuki Nakajima / Stefan-Toyota - 1:22.155
18. Takuma Sato / Super Aguri-Honda - 1:22.803
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19. Karun Chandhok / Force India-Mercedes - 1:22.626
20. Michael Schumacher / Super Aguri-Honda - 1:22.735
21. Mark Webber / Lola-Mercedes - 1:22.907
22. T. Hemo Goblin / USF1-Ferrari - 1:23.651
23. Bruno Senna / HRT-Renault - 1:23.757
24. John Bovy / Lola-Mercedes - 1:23.904
25. Sakon Yamamoto / HRT-Renault - 1:24.286
26. Luca Badoer / USF1-Ferrari - 1:24.460

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 28 Sep 2013, 22:59

2010 Eni Magyar Nagydij II - Race

Note: Car #5 (Lewis Hamilton) was excluded from the race results for an illegal fuel stop; McLaren were fined €5.000.000.
Note: Car #7 (Sebastian Vettel) was excluded from the race results for an illegal fuel stop; Red Bull were fined €5.000.000.
Note: Car #17 (Karun Chandhok) was excluded from the race results for an illegal fuel stop; Force India were fined €5.000.000.
Note: Williams have been fined €10,000,000 due to their driver in car #18 (Rhys Davies) causing avoidable accidents involving cars #6 (Jenson Button) and #14 (Sammy Jones)
Note: Renault have been fined €500,000 due to their driver in car #14 (Sammy Jones) disregarding blue flags. This incident triggers Sammy Jones's suspended race ban.

-- Positives --
Daniel Melrose - controlled the race and deserved the win, no doubt.

Romain Grosjean - again he makes the most of the Hungarian hijinks and takes 12 valueable points.

Jenson Button - recovered well from an incident with Rhys Davies to get up to P5.

Takuma Sato - IIDOTR for the type of performance the team would have expected from Michael Schumacher.

Mark Webber - despite having just enough fuel to finish the race he got a valueable point for Lola again.

Negatives:
Fuel Economy² - oh man, oh man, oh man.

Fernando Alonso - the spin that cost him P5 really was not needed.

John Bovy - if F1 was a comedy, Bovy would have won the Deutsche Comedypreis today with hilarious spins, battles and other ridiculous moves.

Rhys Davies - the fact that the stewards only did not ban him because he just served a race ban proves more than anything why he is ROTR.

Red Bull, McLaren and Force India - apparentely, these three teams didn't get the notice yesterday about illegaly refueling.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 28 Sep 2013, 23:47

Gulf Air Bahrain Grands Prix - Bahrain International Circuit - 12/13 March
BC Partners Detroit Grands Prix - Detroit Belle Isle Raceway - 26/27 March
Mitsukoshi Japanese Grands Prix - Suzuka Circuit - 9/10 April
Hyundai Korean Grands Prix - Korea International Circuit - 16/17 April
Petrol Ofisi Turkish Grands Prix - Istanbul Park - 7/8 May
Telefónica Grandes Premios de España - Circuit de Catalunya - 21/22 May
Tiffany Monaco Grands Prix - Monaco Street Circuit - 28/29 May
Santander British Grands Prix - Donington Park - 11/12 June
Paddy Power Irish Grands Prix - Kerry International Circuit - 18/19 June
Alice Grands Prix of Europe - Autodromo Internazionale del Mugello - 6/7 August
Targobank Große Preise von Deutschland - EuroSpeedway Lausitz - 20/21 August
Eni Magyar Futamok - Hungaroring - 27/28 August
Caffe Nicchi Gran Premi d'Italia - Autodromo Nazionale Monza - 10/11 September
LG Grandes Premios del Uruguay - Street Circuit of Punta del Este - 1/2 October
Petrobras Grandes Prêmios do Brasil - Autódromo José Carlos Pace - 8/9 October
SingTel Singapore Grands Prix - Marina Bay Street Circuit - 22/23 October
Bharat Petroleum Indian Grands Prix - Buddh International Circuit - 29/30 October
Etihad Airways Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina Circuit - 13/14 November

That means F1RWRS drivers would miss the following events: Ireland, Europe, Germany, Uruguay

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 30 Sep 2013, 19:01

2010 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix I - Qualifying

1. Sebastian Vettel / Red Bull-Renault - 1:43.467
2. Sebastién Bourdais / Red Bull-Renault - 1:43.860
3. Robert Kubica / Ferrari - 1:44.197
4. Lewis Hamilton / McLaren-Mercedes - 1:44.313
5. Fernando Alonso / Ferrari - 1:44.389
6. Rhys Davies / Williams-Honda - 1:44.546
7. Nicolas Prost / Renault - 1:44.742
8. Jacques Villeneuve / Stefan-Toyota - 1:44.828
9. Jenson Button / McLaren-Mercedes - 1:44.832
10. Daniel Melrose / Mercedes - 1:44.872
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11. Kimi Räikkönen / Mercedes - 1:44.809
12. Christian Klien / BMW Sauber - 1:44.929
13. Romain Grosjean / Renault - 1:44.953
14. Adrian Sutil / Force India-Mercedes - 1:44.966
15. Nick Heidfeld / Williams-Honda - 1:45.269
16. Dave Simpson / BMW Sauber - 1:45.437
17. Kazuki Nakajima / Stefan-Toyota - 1:45.710
18. Karun Chandhok / Force India-Mercedes - 1:45.746
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19. Takuma Sato / Super Aguri-Honda - 1:45.898
20. Michael Schumacher / Super Aguri-Honda - 1:46.027
21. Mark Webber / Lola-Mercedes - 1:46.206
22. Bruno Senna / HRT-Renault - 1:46.286
23. Mizuki Ukawa / HRT-Renault - 1:47.596
24. John Bovy / Lola-Mercedes - 1:47.642
25. Luca Badoer / USF1-Ferrari - 1:47.792
26. T. Hemo Goblin / USF1-Ferrari - 1:48.028

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 01 Oct 2013, 15:03

2010 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix I - Race

Note: Car #6 (Jenson Button) was handed a suspended race ban for causing an avoidable accident involving car #2 (Kimi Räikkönen)

-- Positives --
Fernando Alonso - did a great job staying out of trouble where his team mate failed and managed to unsettle Vettel to take a great win for Ferrari

Rhys Davies - an opportunistic move from the Australian on the final lap gave him a podium and denied Hamilton.

Lewis Hamilton - could have very well won if a tyre hadn't come loose and forced a pitstop on the 2008 World Champion.

Nicolas Prost - earning IIDOTR on your first day on the job is impressive but well deserved for a great debut without flaws.

Michael Schumacher - despite having never driven on Singapore, the legend showed his skill by adapting well to the new circuit.

Negatives:
Sebastian Vettel - spinning twice in a race is bad enough but spinning out of the lead on the last lap after successfully preventing being overtaken at turn 14 is just awful.

Jenson Button - he took out Kimi Räikkönen and spun just as Hamilton came out of the pits behind him and gets benched anyway, quite honestly, that is enough for me to hand out ROTR.

Romain Grosjean - despite having one-and-a-half years worth of F1 experience he looked like an idiot in comparison to Prost today.

Christian Klien - spun twice and stalled the second time around, an atrocious performance after Klien looked so strong in Hungary.

Mizuki Ukawa - this driver is gonna need a lot of sponsorship money to ever drive in F1 again after spinning into the wall in the second lap of his debut.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 01 Oct 2013, 21:54

2010 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix II - Qualifying

1. Sebastién Bourdais / Red Bull-Renault - 1:43.523
2. Sebastian Vettel / Red Bull-Renault - 1:43.858
3. Lewis Hamilton / McLaren-Mercedes - 1:44.258
4. Fernando Alonso / Ferrari - 1:44.492
5. Robert Kubica / Ferrari - 1:44.745
6. Daniel Melrose / Mercedes - 1:44.772
7. Robert Wickens / McLaren-Mercedes - 1:44.898
8. Nick Heidfeld / Williams-Honda - 1:44.987
9. Romain Grosjean / Renault - 1:44.996
10. Jacques Villeneuve / Stefan-Toyota - 1:45.024
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11. Kimi Räikkönen / Mercedes - 1:44.962
12. Nathan McKane / HRT-Renault - 1:45.087
13. Dave Simpson / BMW Sauber - 1:45.091
14. Kazuki Nakajima / Stefan-Toyota - 1:45.104
15. Rhys Davies / Williams-Honda - 1:45.117
16. Adrian Sutil / Force India-Mercedes - 1:45.123
17. Sammy Jones / Renault - 1:45.125
18. Karun Chandhok / Force India-Mercedes - 1:45.139
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19. Mark Webber / Lola-Mercedes - 1:45.741
20. Takuma Sato / Super Aguri-Honda - 1:45.829
21. Christian Klien / BMW Sauber - 1:46.839
22. Michael Schumacher / Super Aguri-Honda - 1:46.861
23. John Bovy / Lola-Mercedes - 1:46.965
24. Bruno Senna / HRT-Renault - 1:47.156
25. Luca Badoer / USF1-Ferrari - 1:47.602
26. T. Hemo Goblin / USF1-Ferrari - 1:47.732

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 02 Oct 2013, 02:49

Gosh, these races go by quickly. Let's hope FIndia catches Williams by the season's end.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 03 Oct 2013, 10:46

Gosh, these races go by quickly. Let's hope FIndia catches Williams by the season's end.

Yes, I must admit I am rather putting the hammer down. The thing is I want this series to run parallel to F1RWRS sooner than later, so I am gonna have to keep pushing. Sorry if I leave some people behind

2010 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix II - Race

-- Positives --
Fernando Alonso - two wins, maybe his championship dreams are not quite over yet.

Sebastién Bourdais - he ended up only 1.531 seconds off his first win in Formula One.

Nick Heidfeld - annoyed the stars and got some well-deserved points for it

Kazuki Nakajima - well done to the Japanese driver, got 7th with a job well done.

Nathan McKane - his ninth place against all odds in the HRT earns him a sure-fire IIDOTR.

Negatives:
Rhys Davies - not a good run by him despite getting away with another point.

Karun Chandhok - once again Chandhok performed below the car's standards. The odds for his career don't look too hot.

Jacques Villeneuve - normally he is the one making his team mate look silly but Villeneuve today didn't get much of value done.

Lola-Mercedes - they were the slowest cars out there today and so have their failure coming.

Lewis Hamilton - ROTR for seriously risking his WDC chances by not getting past Heidfeld and then smacking into the barrier.

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 03 Oct 2013, 11:25

That is where we sought of have a problem with say the 2014/15/16 seasons

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 03 Oct 2013, 11:35

HawkAussie wrote:That is where we sought of have a problem with say the 2014/15/16 seasons

... what. How?

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 03 Oct 2013, 13:04

2010 Hyundai Korean Grand Prix I - Qualifying

1. Sebastién Bourdais / Red Bull-Renault - 1:48.538
2. Lewis Hamilton / McLaren-Mercedes - 1:49.128
3. Sebastian Vettel / Red Bull-Renault - 1:49.993
4. Robert Wickens / McLaren-Mercedes - 1:50.003
5. Jacques Villeneuve / Stefan-Toyota - 1:50.024
6. Nick Heidfeld / Williams-Honda - 1:50.131
7. Dave Simpson / BMW Sauber - 1:50.140
8. Christian Klien / BMW Sauber - 1:51.148
9. Sammy Jones / Renault - 1:52.193
10. Adrian Sutil / Force India-Mercedes - 1:52.193
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11. Karun Chandhok / Force India-Mercedes - 1:47.010
12. Kazuki Nakajima / Stefan-Toyota - 1:47.074
13. Daniel Melrose / Mercedes - 1:47.081
14. Robert Kubica / Ferrari - 1:47.111
15. Rhys Davies / Williams-Honda - 1:47.256
16. Kimi Räikkönen / Mercedes - 1:47.332
17. Takuma Sato / Super Aguri-Honda - 1:47.443
18. Fernando Alonso / Ferrari - 1:47.803
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19. Nathan McKane / HRT-Renault - 1:50.002
20. Romain Grosjean / Renault - 1:50.134
21. Mark Webber / Lola-Mercedes - 1:50.168
22. Michael Schumacher / Super Aguri-Honda - 1:50.369
23. John Bovy / Lola-Mercedes - 1:52.212
24. Bruno Senna / HRT-Renault - 1:52.523
25. Luca Badoer / USF1-Ferrari - 1:53.711
26. T. Hemo Goblin / USF1-Ferrari - 1:53.813