1994 Rejects-1 WC: Round 17 Up

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 10 Jul 2014, 18:44

+1 driver performance for KJS
Not being able to have 2 competitive cars is kind of tradition, so i leave it that way.

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 11 Jul 2014, 01:00

1x engine reliablity and 1x driver performance for both drivers

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 11 Jul 2014, 05:15

Upgrades added

Btw, yesterday when watching TV, I saw a person named "Friedl Källström" and he is indeed from Sweden :lol:

Deanna McMahon is given 20 kg penalty ballast and one suspended race ban

1994 Rejects-1 Nippon Guran Purii
Sorry for the turbo mode....

Qualifying Result

Race Result

Fastest Lap: Natascha Zaugg - 1:23.970

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 11 Jul 2014, 07:23

Awesome, another finish, albeit dead last.

I'll see how R13 ends up and then I'll decide what to buy.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 11 Jul 2014, 08:09

Could Rob Lomas Racing please have 2x engine power?

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 11 Jul 2014, 09:04

4 driver performance upgrades for Cam Maroon, and 2 for JVDM, please.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 11 Jul 2014, 15:31

325, and 75 for finishing, so a drag upgrade please. The car needs treatment too, not just the driver.

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 11 Jul 2014, 17:45

Budgets updated, upgrades added. Time for looking to 1995 a little....

Rejects-1 goal are other than giving the leader in reject motorsport ladder, is to introduce circuits around the world, of course with safety that comes along.

Lists of circuits that I would like in 1995 (in no particular order, but in order of preference):

Argentine:
1. Potrero de Los Funes
2. Autodromo Mar de Ajo

USA:
1. Willow Springs International Motorsport Park
2. Hallet Motor Racing Circuit
3. Laguna Seca
4. Sebring

Canada:
1. Shannonville Motorsport Park

Brazil:
1. Autódromo Internacional de Taruma, but there is a pit issue
2. Autódromo Internacional de Cascavel
3. Autodromo Jose Carlos Pace

France:
1. Pau Street Circuit
2. Circuit Paul Ricard

Austria:
1. Salzburgring

Germany:
1. Hockenheimring

England:
1. Oulton Park
2. Snetterton

Ireland:
1. Mondello Park

Netherlands:
1. Assen, though there is no proper version :oops:

2. Zandvoort

Belgium:
1. Spa-Francorchamps

Finland:
1. Alastaro Circuit
2. Botniaring

Sweden:
1. Karlsloga Motorstadion
2. Ring Knutstorp

Norway:
1. Mo I Rana

Japan:
1. Fuji Speedway
2. Suzuka Circuit

Australia:
1. Hidden Valley Raceway
2. Adelaide International Raceway
3. Albert Park Street Circuit

New Zealand:
1. Manfeild Park

Indonesia:
Sirkuit Sentul

South Africa:
1. Killarney Motor Racing Circuit
2. Kyalami

Italy:
1. Adria Raceway
2. Pergusa "oval"

List may grow

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 11 Jul 2014, 17:53

I would approve racing at Knutstorp and Portero De Los Funes.

Oulton Park's BTCC race this year in the other hand was really dull so I think that Donnington may be a better solution.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 11 Jul 2014, 18:23

roblomas52 wrote:Oulton Park's BTCC race this year in the other hand was really dull so I think that Donnington may be a better solution.

Those were touring cars. But yeah, if you're gonna have a race at Oulton, the International layout is the way to go - BTCC is going back to that for 2015.

The Dutch Bear · Post by **The Dutch Bear** » 11 Jul 2014, 18:50

roblomas52 wrote:I would approve racing at Knutstorp and Portero De Los Funes.
Oulton Park's BTCC race this year in the other hand was really dull so I think that Donnington may be a better solution.

I agree on Knutstorp and Portero de los Funes. Assen is great for bikes, but it doesn't produce good racing when it comes to cars.
The full, current lay-out of Zandvoort can't be used before 1999 though.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 11 Jul 2014, 19:03

The Dutch Bear wrote:
roblomas52 wrote:I would approve racing at Knutstorp and Portero De Los Funes.
Oulton Park's BTCC race this year in the other hand was really dull so I think that Donnington may be a better solution.

I agree on Knutstorp and Portero de los Funes. Assen is great for bikes, but it doesn't produce good racing when it comes to cars.
The full, current lay-out of Zandvoort can't be used before 1999 though.

Hengelo and Luttenbergring look like they will provide good racing.

The Dutch Bear · Post by **The Dutch Bear** » 11 Jul 2014, 19:36

roblomas52 wrote:
The Dutch Bear wrote:
roblomas52 wrote:I would approve racing at Knutstorp and Portero De Los Funes.
Oulton Park's BTCC race this year in the other hand was really dull so I think that Donnington may be a better solution.

I agree on Knutstorp and Portero de los Funes. Assen is great for bikes, but it doesn't produce good racing when it comes to cars.
The full, current lay-out of Zandvoort can't be used before 1999 though.

Hengelo and Luttenbergring look like they will provide good racing.

As far as I know those tracks have never been used by cars and I really doubt a digital version exists of those tracks.
There aren't any barriers at all at those tracks, so from a safety perspective racing there is not to be recommended.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 11 Jul 2014, 23:46

AxelP800 wrote:Upgrades added

Btw, yesterday when watching TV, I saw a person named "Friedl Källström" and he is indeed from Sweden

I assume he isn't named like that because it rhymes with a Cuban dictator. On the other hand, on the world cup of football, i saw a player whose first name was Yeltsin (was that Honduras?), so you never know what motives parents have.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 12 Jul 2014, 08:20

This wrote:
AxelP800 wrote:Upgrades added

Btw, yesterday when watching TV, I saw a person named "Friedl Källström" and he is indeed from Sweden

I assume he isn't named like that because it rhymes with a Cuban dictator. On the other hand, on the world cup of football, i saw a player whose first name was Yeltsin (was that Honduras?), so you never know what motives parents have.

Yeltsin Tejeda Valverde, he was in the Costa Rica team.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 12 Jul 2014, 14:09

600 on Macmillan's skill and 700 on torque

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 12 Jul 2014, 16:19

1 driver performance each to Stokins and Winton, please

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 12 Jul 2014, 16:52

Upgrades added, in other word: Australian round is moved to Hidden Valley Raceway. Eastern Creek I have well, FPS issue, kerbs issue, resulting in total chaos.
Number of starters will be 32 cars

CaptainGetz12 · Post by **CaptainGetz12** » 12 Jul 2014, 17:31

AxelP800 wrote:Upgrades added, in other word: Australian round is moved to Hidden Valley Raceway. Eastern Creek I have well, FPS issue, kerbs issue, resulting in total chaos.
Number of starters will be 32 cars

I knew Eastern Creek would be trouble ever since LIfeGP held the 1992 finale there. :lol:

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 12 Jul 2014, 22:41

AxelP800 wrote:Upgrades added, in other word: Australian round is moved to Hidden Valley Raceway. Eastern Creek I have well, FPS issue, kerbs issue, resulting in total chaos.
Number of starters will be 32 cars

So clearly there are no track standards in this series, considering Hidden Valley was a complete and utter dump until 1998. Unless you have a version where most of the track is dirt

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 12 Jul 2014, 22:43

the Masked Lapwing wrote:
AxelP800 wrote:Upgrades added, in other word: Australian round is moved to Hidden Valley Raceway. Eastern Creek I have well, FPS issue, kerbs issue, resulting in total chaos.
Number of starters will be 32 cars

So clearly there are no track standards in this series, considering Hidden Valley was a complete and utter dump until 1998. Unless you have a version where most of the track is dirt

The Australian round should be held at Adelaide.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 12 Jul 2014, 23:16

roblomas52 wrote:
the Masked Lapwing wrote:
AxelP800 wrote:Upgrades added, in other word: Australian round is moved to Hidden Valley Raceway. Eastern Creek I have well, FPS issue, kerbs issue, resulting in total chaos.
Number of starters will be 32 cars

So clearly there are no track standards in this series, considering Hidden Valley was a complete and utter dump until 1998. Unless you have a version where most of the track is dirt

The Australian round should be held at Adelaide.

The Australian round should be Spielberg, just for the pun of it.

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 13 Jul 2014, 04:54

This is canon anyway. I can say Hidden Valley is scheduled in the first place instead of Eastern Creek, so Rejects-1 organizer have work together with Hidden Valley owner to bring the track to international standard.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 13 Jul 2014, 05:20

AxelP800 wrote:This is canon anyway. I can say Hidden Valley is scheduled in the first place instead of Eastern Creek, so Rejects-1 organizer have work together with Hidden Valley owner to bring the track to international standard.

Problems with Hidden Valley:

1. It's Darwin. In October. It is simply way too hot to race.
2. Rejects-1 is not F1, and Darwin is in the middle of nowhere, and it really was a dump. You'd need a lot of money and a couple of years notice to even start upgrading the track.
3. There are so many better tracks in Australia to visit. Lets list them all:
- Barbagallo
- Wakefield Park
- Oran Park (which, being in Sydney, would be the common sense replacement)
- Bathurst
- Sandown
- Calder Park (including the Thunderdome)
- Lakeside
- Symmons Plains
- Winton
Or, of course, the street circuits, what with Adelaide, Surfers and Albert Park all being options.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 13 Jul 2014, 08:21

the Masked Lapwing wrote:
AxelP800 wrote:This is canon anyway. I can say Hidden Valley is scheduled in the first place instead of Eastern Creek, so Rejects-1 organizer have work together with Hidden Valley owner to bring the track to international standard.

Problems with Hidden Valley:

1. It's Darwin. In October. It is simply way too hot to race.
2. Rejects-1 is not F1, and Darwin is in the middle of nowhere, and it really was a dump. You'd need a lot of money and a couple of years notice to even start upgrading the track.
3. There are so many better tracks in Australia to visit. Lets list them all:
- Barbagallo
- Wakefield Park
- Oran Park (which, being in Sydney, would be the common sense replacement)
- Bathurst
- Sandown
- Calder Park (including the Thunderdome)
- Lakeside
- Symmons Plains
- Winton
Or, of course, the street circuits, what with Adelaide, Surfers and Albert Park all being options.

Personally, I would like the Australian round to be held at Oran Park because the track is so much fun to drive. Oh yeah, it's also a figure of 8 circuit and that just makes it even more awesome. I know, I've driven it on TOCA race driver 2 on my PS2.

simonracer · Post by **simonracer** » 13 Jul 2014, 10:18

It really depends. I mean, are we going for realism in regards to tracks? In 1994, Hidden Valley hadn't even hosted a major national event, as far as I can tell.

And there are definitely more interesting and appropriate tracks in Australia, too. Outside of Oran Park, there's Phillip Island, which is interesting if anything because of its speed, and who can forget Bathurst, although if I recall correctly Bathurst was already tried for this series (either in its current form or old form) without success. Outside of those tracks, if you want international credentials there's Sandown, which hosted a round of the World Sportscar Championship in the 1980s for a year or two (or more?), and Surfers Paradise, which as many might be aware hosted Indycar/ChampCar for about 20 years.

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 14 Jul 2014, 04:47

I so want the Symmons Plains track

simonracer · Post by **simonracer** » 14 Jul 2014, 05:49

HawkAussie wrote:I so want the Symmons Plains track

Lakeside would be even better.

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 14 Jul 2014, 06:34

I have an offer to switch Australian round with New Zealand round while we still discussing the venue for Australia. Here's some of my notes with Australian tracks:

Eastern Creek: FPS, scenery, sky issue
Barbagallo: Pit entry not working and pit entry very narrow
Sandown: Lap won't count when driving on pit
Lakeside: Garages issue
Winton: Garages not located properly
Symmon Plains: Pit not working
Bathurst: Too deadly
Oran Park: Works well with less cars
Adelaide Street: Max 35 cars

Choose

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 14 Jul 2014, 06:49

AxelP800 wrote:Bathurst: Too deadly

He says, after going to Mondello.

Anyway, Oran Park is my vote.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 14 Jul 2014, 07:21

I say Bathurst.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 14 Jul 2014, 07:35

Oran Park seems the most logical choice - given that it's the only track that actually seems to work properly, why is this up for vote?

The Dutch Bear · Post by **The Dutch Bear** » 14 Jul 2014, 08:10

Oran Park would be the best. Adelaide could be used from 1996 onwards, replacing F1 there.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 14 Jul 2014, 10:25

Oran Park, no contest.

simonracer · Post by **simonracer** » 14 Jul 2014, 11:12

Shizuka wrote:Oran Park, no contest.

CaptainGetz12 · Post by **CaptainGetz12** » 14 Jul 2014, 18:25

There aren't enough figure-8 tracks, so Oran Park is my vote.

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 15 Jul 2014, 02:51

Oran Park for me

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 15 Jul 2014, 03:14

Oran Park

simonracer · Post by **simonracer** » 15 Jul 2014, 07:07

I think it's a unanimous victory for Oran Park.

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 15 Jul 2014, 07:25

simonracer wrote:I think it's a unanimous victory for Oran Park.

It is, it's official. Only 30 cars will start the race unfortunately