Grand Prix Rejects

Posted: **12 Sep 2015, 13:25**

AxelP800 wrote:
Rob Dylan wrote:Anthony Davidson in 2002. Brought in to replace Yoong who couldn't qualify, and Anthony himself couldn't finish. And on that note, I might also add Anthony Davidson 2005, Anthony Davidson 2007 and Anthony Davidson 2008.

Not really for 07-08 because:
b. Other 2007 occassions

Posted: **12 Sep 2015, 15:12**

Ataxia wrote:
AxelP800 wrote:
Rob Dylan wrote:Anthony Davidson in 2002. Brought in to replace Yoong who couldn't qualify, and Anthony himself couldn't finish. And on that note, I might also add Anthony Davidson 2005, Anthony Davidson 2007 and Anthony Davidson 2008.

Not really for 07-08 because:
b. Other 2007 occassions

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My first thought as well.

But also, didn't Anthony qualify about 10th or 11th in a qually session in Turkey that year as well?

Posted: **20 Oct 2015, 23:09**

Currently watching a race from 1990, and Nicola Larini is driving a Ligier. Clean forgot about that one.

Posted: **22 Oct 2015, 01:24**

dr-baker wrote:
Ataxia wrote:
AxelP800 wrote:Not really for 07-08 because:
b. Other 2007 occassions

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My first thought as well.

But also, didn't Anthony qualify about 10th or 11th in a qually session in Turkey that year as well?

Yeah. Think he set the 7th fastest time in Q2 to reach Q3. I think. There's a youtube video of his on-board lap, really really good viewing. Totally nailed the final sector.

Posted: **22 Oct 2015, 08:50**

AdrianSutil wrote:
dr-baker wrote:But also, didn't Anthony qualify about 10th or 11th in a qually session in Turkey that year as well?

Yeah. Think he set the 7th fastest time in Q2 to reach Q3. I think. There's a youtube video of his on-board lap, really really good viewing. Totally nailed the final sector.

I would like to say that were true, sadly Davidson (after the video ended) missed Q3 by 0.122s and then got pushed off at the first corner. As for Bahrain, he was 6th since he was out of sequence on strategy, and was like, 12th when his engine blew.

Posted: **20 Dec 2015, 15:20**

Riccardo Patrese at Benetton

Pierre-Henri Raphanel's stints for Larrousse and Rial were pretty anonymous, I only think of Coloni when I think of him.

Speaking of Rial. Bertrand Gachot and Gregor Foitek's brief stints with the team.

Posted: **20 Dec 2015, 15:35**

Bruno Senna's Williams career. Also same as Barrichello. I keep on forgetting those Rubens drove for Williams.

Posted: **21 Dec 2015, 12:27**

Yamamoto at HRT.

Posted: **21 Dec 2015, 12:48**

andrew wrote:Yamamoto at HRT.

Yamamoto in anything imo is not anonymous. Klien in the HRT though.

Posted: **21 Dec 2015, 13:13**

Aguaman wrote:
andrew wrote:Yamamoto at HRT.

Yamamoto in anything imo is not anonymous. Klien in the HRT though.

I still remember going into the Silverstone weekend having not read anything online about the driver change, turning on the TV in the middle of Q1, looking at the lap times column and wondering "who the hell is YAM?"

And who can forget that Monza incident?

Posted: **21 Dec 2015, 16:28**

I have.

Posted: **21 Dec 2015, 21:37**

Aguaman wrote:
andrew wrote:Yamamoto at HRT.

Yamamoto in anything imo is not anonymous. Klien in the HRT though.

Klien in the HRT forgettable, or anonymous? We will never forget that weekend in Singapore where Yamamoto was sick (of the wallet kind), and Klien was brought in to replace him at the last minute, and he destroyed Bruna Senna.

Posted: **21 Dec 2015, 23:06**

Miguel98 wrote:
Aguaman wrote:
andrew wrote:Yamamoto at HRT.

Yamamoto in anything imo is not anonymous. Klien in the HRT though.

Klien in the HRT forgettable, or anonymous? We will never forget that weekend in Singapore where Yamamoto was sick (of the wallet kind), and Klien was brought in to replace him at the last minute, and he destroyed Bruna Senna.

Klien in the HRT is particularly memorable for me. I watched the Grand Prix from a nearby hotel, and as Klien sped past in the first practice, I processed my thought of "What the [quite rude expletive] is he doing here?" rather audibly.

I was thirteen at the time, my mother was in the room with me, and needless to say she was not pleased. Thank you Christian Klien for ruining my innocence in front of my family.

Posted: **23 Jan 2016, 21:44**

Christian Klien waved to me when I called out to him ( on my once in a lifetime Monaco trip 2009) as he walked down the pit lane.
So he became a bit of a favourite of mine after that.
Was he under- rated? Maybe..

Posted: **06 Nov 2016, 14:32**

Currently watching the 1998 season, and wow... Jordan, Stewart, Arrows, Sauber, Minardi, Tyrrell and Prost are all competing to be as unnoticeable as possible. I understand that obviously Jordan go on to be a little less anonymous at Spa, but I will nominate:

- Jarno Trulli at Prost in 1998
- Olivier Panis at Prost in 1998
- Jos Verstappen at Stewart in 1998 (which was actually mentioned earlier somewhere I think)

Even as I'm watching the season I'm forgetting who is on the grid, and for which team. 1998 had such a huge gap between the top 4 teams (McLaren, Ferrari, Williams, Benetton) and the rest that there are so many nominations for anonymity.

Posted: **06 Dec 2016, 00:42**

Here's a cracker: Narain Karthikeyan drove at the 2011 Indian Grand Prix. In the first eight races Narain achieved two solid 17th place results as his best drives, something his successor - a certain D. Ricciardo - could only hope to match with a single 18th place over the remaining 11 races. Although he was replaced, Karthikeyan actually came back for the Indian Grand Prix (I wonder why) and cemented his place in the standings with another outstanding 17th place.

But seriously, I forget this guy ever entering or leaving Formula 1, and that one-race stint is arguably the most forgettable thing he ever did in his glistening career.

Posted: **06 Dec 2016, 11:00**

I remember him mainly for that race (Singapore was it?) where he had an amusing crash and took Rosberg out as well because he couldn't avoid him.

Posted: **06 Dec 2016, 16:34**

Barbazza wrote:I remember him mainly for that race (Singapore was it?) where he had an amusing crash and took Rosberg out as well because he couldn't avoid him.

Are you sure that wasn't Abby Dabby? Although I may be thinking of something else here

Posted: **06 Dec 2016, 19:17**

It might well have been. For me the tracks are the anonymous part of F1 these days rather than the drivers!

Posted: **13 Dec 2016, 22:11**

Barbazza wrote:I remember him mainly for that race (Singapore was it?) where he had an amusing crash and took Rosberg out as well because he couldn't avoid him.

That'd be the 2012 Abu Dhabi GP. The hydraulics in Cucumberkayan's steering failed out of T14 (the first corner overlooking the yacht harbour), and Rosberg was right behind him at the time. Narain lifted unexpectedly early, and Rosberg had nowhere to go.

Since I'm in this thread, I may as well throw in my own two cents. Being in the midst of a "career mode" in the Black Stig Memorial forum, I've picked up on a few performance trends in the late-80s because I'm a massive world-building geek like that. Rene Arnoux got completely bathplugged over when Renault pulled out of the turbo arms race after 1986. His only points were 6th in the 1987 Belgian GP (where only 10 finished, thanks in no small part to Mansell taking out Senna, engine failures for Piquet & Berger and a transmission failure for Alboreto) and 5th in the rain-soaked 1989 Canadian GP where only 8 finished.

Posted: **14 Dec 2016, 19:51**

Regenmeister94 wrote:Rene Arnoux got completely bathplugged over when Renault pulled out of the turbo arms race after 1986.

Not so anonymous thanks to James Hunt!

Posted: **15 Dec 2016, 09:46**

Rupert Keegan - over 4 seasons he apparently turned up 37 times for a Grand Prix weekend...and left no mark ( slight exaggeration seeing I just remembered him )

Posted: **05 Feb 2017, 17:47**

Bleu, sometime long ago wrote:Aguri Suzuki - Jordan, Pacific GP 1994
Yannick Dalmas - Larrousse, 1994
Eric Bernard - Lotus, European GP 1994

I completely forgot about all of these stints.
1994 was full of these weird little stints.
Wait... I dont even remember who drove for Ligier whilst Bernard was at Lotus.
*looks it up* Franck Lagorce? Who is that?

Posted: **06 Feb 2017, 08:27**

Dartanian wrote:
Bleu, sometime long ago wrote:Aguri Suzuki - Jordan, Pacific GP 1994
Yannick Dalmas - Larrousse, 1994
Eric Bernard - Lotus, European GP 1994

I completely forgot about all of these stints.
1994 was full of these weird little stints.
Wait... I dont even remember who drove for Ligier whilst Bernard was at Lotus.
*looks it up* Franck Lagorce? Who is that?

Herbert also drove one race for Ligier at Jerez in 1994.

One that I always forget about is JJ Letho driving for Sauber at Japan and OZ in 1994

Posted: **06 Feb 2017, 16:22**

Dartanian wrote:I completely forgot about all of these stints.
1994 was full of these weird little stints.
Wait... I dont even remember who drove for Ligier whilst Bernard was at Lotus.
*looks it up* Franck Lagorce? Who is that?

I do remember Franck Lagorce, prinicipally for the crash he had in Japan where the car just slewed sideways suddenly (possibly aquaplaning) off the track, then getting out and looking so incredibly pissed off.

The cover of the Richard Williams book 'Racers' appears to depict this, but unfortunately there is no credit for the picture, and that's an account of the 1996 season so it very likely isn't.

Posted: **06 Feb 2017, 17:48**

Franck Lagorce also had the "honour" of being Forti's official test driver in 1996. I doubt he got much more mileage than Andrea Montermini at MasterCard Lola a year later. :badoer:

Posted: **08 Feb 2017, 23:18**

Barbazza wrote:
Dartanian wrote:I completely forgot about all of these stints.
1994 was full of these weird little stints.
Wait... I dont even remember who drove for Ligier whilst Bernard was at Lotus.
*looks it up* Franck Lagorce? Who is that?

I do remember Franck Lagorce, prinicipally for the crash he had in Japan where the car just slewed sideways suddenly (possibly aquaplaning) off the track, then getting out and looking so incredibly pissed off.

The cover of the Richard Williams book 'Racers' appears to depict this, but unfortunately there is no credit for the picture, and that's an account of the 1996 season so it very likely isn't.

I think the crash shown on the cover of the book is Mark Blundell's Ligier in practice at Silverstone in 1993, there is a clip of him getting out of the car which is in the middle of the track as the two McLarens come zooming past, looks like a bit of a brown trousers moment! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0g_TYXIpjg

Posted: **09 Feb 2017, 16:33**

Chrisdude wrote:I think the crash shown on the cover of the book is Mark Blundell's Ligier in practice at Silverstone in 1993, there is a clip of him getting out of the car which is in the middle of the track as the two McLarens come zooming past, looks like a bit of a brown trousers moment! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0g_TYXIpjg

Yes, you're right - top spot! I spotted that the helmet of the driver on the book cover was yellow, so should have guessed it was Blundell, but I wasn't sure if they'd doctored the picture in some way.

I must say that I'd never seen that footage before, that could have been very nasty indeed.

Posted: **09 Feb 2017, 18:17**

If it is any consolation I had previously wondered about that crash for years afters seeing that book cover in a shop and not being able to work out what the incident was!

My anonymous stint driver is still Max Papis in 1995 who I believe managed to damage his car against the pit wall before going on to the gravel at Silverstone, before later being part of the accident that gave David "warm up lap hero " Coulthard a slightly less embarrassing Italian GP!

Posted: **10 Feb 2017, 16:13**

Anybody remember Timo Glock's time at Jordan in 2004?

Posted: **10 Feb 2017, 16:38**

I forget Glock was at Toyota in 2008, or at Manor in 2010 or 2011. 2012 is the exception because he was acctually punching above his weight at times in his final season.

In other words, my only memories of Timo Glock are him subbing for Jordan, and for pitting after about seven laps after leading Bahrain in 2009 with practically no fuel - one of the dumbest strategies I can remember for a long time.

Posted: **10 Feb 2017, 21:04**

The Chicane wrote:Anybody remember Timo Glock's time at Jordan in 2004?

Of course. Especially how he replaced Giorgio Pantano initially in a one-off race and scored points in his debut, albeit thanks to Williams and Toyota being disqualified. Nevertheless, that would have been an 11th place finish, still better than Pantano ever achieved.

Posted: **12 Feb 2017, 01:34**

Most people may forget Christian Klien's oddball run for HRT in 2010. I don't, because I sincerely remember watching the Singapore Grand Prix and, as he sped past, I asked my family "Why is he here?"

What I do forget, though, was his replacement at Red Bull. No, not Liuzzi. The fact that freakin' Robert Doornbos replaced him.

Posted: **16 Feb 2017, 21:24**

The Chicane wrote:Anybody remember Timo Glock's time at Jordan in 2004?

You mean Tim 'O Glock?

Posted: **13 Oct 2017, 14:22**

Anyone who drove an Osella apart from Jarier, Ghinzani and those who already have/had a profile. I'm talking about drivers like Beppe Gabbiani who also drove for Surtees briefly in 1978.

Posted: **13 Oct 2017, 17:11**

1993DonningtonNo1Mk2 wrote:Anyone who drove an Osella apart from Jarier, Ghinzani and those who already have/had a profile. I'm talking about drivers like Beppe Gabbiani who also drove for Surtees briefly in 1978.

I don't think Larini's stint can be considered anonymous given some of the performances he managed in 1989.

Posted: **13 Oct 2017, 18:16**

FullMetalJack wrote:
1993DonningtonNo1Mk2 wrote:Anyone who drove an Osella apart from Jarier, Ghinzani and those who already have/had a profile. I'm talking about drivers like Beppe Gabbiani who also drove for Surtees briefly in 1978.

I don't think Larini's stint can be considered anonymous given some of the performances he managed in 1989.

Whoops! Forgot about Larini and Grouillard of course!

Posted: **13 Oct 2017, 18:53**

Heikki Kovalinen left F1 at the end of 2011, right?

Wrong. He did the last two races of 2013 for Lotus. I feel like I've awoken in an alternate universe...

Posted: **13 Oct 2017, 21:55**

pasta_maldonado wrote:Heikki Kovalinen left F1 at the end of 2011, right?

Wrong. He did the last two races of 2013 for Lotus. I feel like I've awoken in an alternate universe...

Heikki's last full season was 2012 actually

Posted: **14 Oct 2017, 00:30**

pasta_maldonado wrote:Heikki Kovalinen left F1 at the end of 2012, right?

Wrong. He did the last two races of 2013 for Lotus. I feel like I've awoken in an alternate universe...

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