Grand Prix Rejects

Folks, it's back. Although it was a little-remembered series that died about five years ago, the current situation means I've got some time to run a series like this all again. We ended in mid-'98 last time out, but this time I'll start from scratch.

At the moment, all you need to do is pick a team - first come, first served, naturally - and I'll thrash out details later.

Williams - Kinnikuniverse
Ferrari - CarloSpace
Benetton - peteroli34
McLaren - Salamander
Jordan - Shawn040217
Prost - Miguel98
Sauber - Gertrand Bachot
Arrows - Wizzie
Stewart - CaptainGetz
Tyrrell - TCBY
Minardi - Aislabie
Lola - Simtek
Dome - Dom

Reserve List:
Spooder918
takagi_ftw
Pilot

Prost for me bois (also, Prost in 1996).

Alright, I'll have a crack at Lola.

Tyrrell pls for me

The Mad Uncle will live up to his reputation and take on TWR Arrows

I will take Dome for obvious reasons

i shall take the united colours of Benetton

I was McLaren last time, wasn't I? With Greg Moore? Let's try that again, why not.

Give me Sauber, I loved reading about this series last time! Looking forward to plundering other teams

Awesome! May I have Jordan?

I'll take Ferrari!

looks like I'll get williams. I'll make it my duty to have my favorite F1 team avoid their awful slump that they never recovered from!

I will try Stewart please.

Will this be a continuation of the previous series, albeit resetting 1998? Or is this from scratch?

Damn, someone's already taken Lola...

dr-baker wrote:Damn, someone's already taken Lola...

All that's left is Minardi I think.

Well I'll be up for Minardi

I'm a pleb so hand me Ferrari.

All teams are occupied - Gertrand, you're first reserve.

Next up, here's all the stuff:

THE BIG SPREADSHEET

Drivers
- You need to sign a 1st driver, 2nd driver and test driver.
- You may bid at the base value as a minimum, but increasing your bid increases your chances
- Bid for three drivers per seat, in order of preference
- Pay-drivers will provide the amount of money shown in race seats, and half of that in a test seat.

Engines
- You need an engine supplier to power your car.
- As with drivers, you may bid at the base value as a minimum, but increased bid = increased chances.
- Bid for three, although those bidding for engines marked as first options only need to bid for that engine.
- Ferrari automatically gets its own engine

Tyres
Pick either Goodyear or Bridgestone at no extra charge

Testing
Testing will be an option throughout the year, with a yet-to-be-decided number of in-season tests.
Each costs: £500k for light running, £750k for medium running, and £1m for heavy running. Spending more increases your chances of making performance improvements.
The quality of your test driver will also depend on the gains you make.
You don't need to worry about this now, but you may wish to save some money aside.

is there going to be a sponsorship system?

also:

Williams Grand Prix Engineering

tires: goodyear

Mugen-honda 17M$
Mechachrome 15M$
Peugeot 14M$

Driver 1:

-Jacques Villeneuve 12M$
-Jean Alesi 8M$
-Olivier Panis 7M$

Driver 2
- Heinz-harald Frentzen 8M$
- Giancarlo Fisichella 7M$
- Alex Zanardi 5M$

Test Driver
-Juan Pablo Montoya 4M$
- Emmanuel Collard 700K$
- Norberto Fontana 600K$

Team: PIAA Tyrrell Racing
Tyres: Bridgestone

Engine:
Option 1: Mecachrome
Option 2: Ford VJ
Option 3: Peugeot

Driver 1:
Option A: Giancarlo Fisichella ($8M)
Option B: Jean Alesi ($8M)
Option C: Damon Hill ($8M)

Driver 2:
Option A: Pedro Diniz (PD)
Option B: Pedro de la Rosa (PD)
Option C: Tarso Marques (PD)

TD:
Option A: Pedro de la Rosa (if not Driver 2)
Option B: Nick Heidfeld
Option C: Jean-Christophe Bouillon

Team: Dome - Bridgestone

In order of preference

Engine:
Mugen-Honda - 15m
Mecachrome - 15m
Ford JD (Zetec) - 10m

Driver 1:
Mika Salo - 4m
Nick Heidfeld - 2m
Gianni Morbidelli - 2m

Driver 2:
Pedro de la Rosa - PD
Pedro Diniz - PD
Norberto Fontana - 500k

Test Driver:
Shinji Nakano - PD
Juichi Wakisaka - PD
Emmanuel Collard - 500k

Team: TWR Arrows

Engine:
Option 1: Mecachrome - $16.5 Million
Option 2: Peugeot - $15.5 Million
Option 3: TWR - $9 Million

Driver 1:
Option A: Pedro De La Rosa - Base Value
Option B: Esteban Tuero - Base Value
Option C: Michel Jourdain Jr - $2.5 million in that sweet, sweet Herdez dosh

Driver 2:
Option A: Tom Coronel - $500,000
Option B: Nicolas Minassian - $500,000
Option C: Robby Gordon - $500,000

Driver T:
Option A: Esteban Tuero - Base Value
Option B: Max Wilson - Base Value
Option C: Laurent Redon - Base Value

We'll go with Bridgestone tyres

Team: Sauber

Engine
Option 1: Ferrari 046 (badged as Petronas) - £12,500,000
Option 2: Mecachrome (badged as Petronas) - £15,000,000
Option 3: Ford JD (badged as Petronas) - £10,000,000

Driver #1
Option A: Jean Alesi - £7,000,000
Option B: Heinz-Harald Frentzen - £7,500,000
Option C: Johnny Herbert - £5,000,000

Driver #2
Option A: Giancarlo Fisichella - £6,000,000
Option B: Alexander Wurz - £4,500,000
Option C: Mika Salo - £4,000,000

Driver T
Option A: Pedro Diniz - PD + an oven
Option B: Pedro de la Rosa - PD + a rose
Option C: Laurent Redon - PD

We’ll go with Bridgestones for this season

Team: MacLaren

Engine:
Option 1: Mercedes (£17m)
Option 2: Mugen Honda (£17m)
Option 3: Peugeot (£15m)

Driver 1:
Option A: GREG SACKS-- err, I mean Greg Moore (£4.5m)
Option B: Gil de Ferran (£4.5m)
Option C: Tony Stewart (£3m)

Driver 2:
Option A: P-Tiddy vs The World, a.k.a. Paul Tracy (£4.5m)
Option B: Jeff Gordon (£4.5m)
Option C: Dario Franchitti (£3m)

Driver T:
Option A: Patrick Carpentier (£1m)
Option B: Craig Lowndes (£500k)
Option C: Mark Skaife (£500k)

Tyres: Bridgestone

Salamander wrote:Team: MacLaren

Engine:
Option 1: Mercedes (£17m)
Option 2: Mugen Honda (£17m)
Option 3: Peugeot (£15m)

Driver 1:
Option A: GREG SACKS-- err, I mean Greg Moore (£4.5m)
Option B: Gil de Ferran (£4.5m)
Option C: Tony Stewart (£3m)

Driver 2:
Option A: P-Tiddy vs The World, a.k.a. Paul Tracy (£4.5m)
Option B: Jeff Gordon (£4.5m)
Option C: Dario Franchitti (£3m)

Driver T:
Option A: Patrick Carpentier (£1m)
Option B: Craig Lowndes (£500k)
Option C: Mark Skaife (£500k)

Tyres: Bridgestone

Tony Stewart and Paul Tracy as teammates at McLaren?!? Now that'll be a tasty pairing.....

Before I bid, based on other bids going on, we are allowed to bid on drivers not listed on your spreadsheet?

Team: Jordan Racing

Seat 1 ( The Steady Hands Seat)
Option A: Alexander Wurz (AUT) £4,730,000(We've witnessed his superb subbing performances at Benetton, and we reckon his testing prowess and his undoubted talent will help us to establish a strong base over the next couple of years.
Option B: Alessandro Zanardi (ITA) £4,000,000 (Having seen his successful CART exploits, we believe Alex can do great things for us here. Should our crappy car render him unable to perform any donuts this year, we've arranged a deal with Krispy Kreme just in case.)
Option C: Mika Salo (FIN) £4,150,000

Seat 2 (Seat of Hotshots)
Option A: Greg Moore (CAN) £3,900,000 (Sure, we might not be able to give Greg the salary or equipment that he deserves, but we can promise him a solid, friendly teammate he can work well with, as well as a wide-arse array of freedom that other teams won't have anywhere else, be it his overalls, helmet, the red gloves or his PR preferences.)
Option B: Tom Kristensen (DEN) £3,650,000 (His attempts at breaking into CART didn't go too well, but we've seen his performances in F3000 with average machinery, and they're brilliant, which means he would be a great fit for taking our team to the top.)
Option C: Pedro Diniz (BRA)-Base Value

Test Driver Seat
1) Tora Takagi (JPN) -Base Value
2) Jorg Muller (GER) -£1,150,000
3) Max Wilson(BRA) -Base Value

As for engines:
1) Mugen Honda-£15,400,000
2) Peugeot -£15,100,000
3) Ford JD -£10,000,000
Oh and we'll go for Goodyear rubber.

Edit: Swapped Zanardi and Wurz

Team: Prost Grand Prix

Tyres: Bridgestone

Engine:
Mugen Honda 20M$
Mecachrome 15M$
Peugeot 14M$

Driver 1:
Alexander Wurz 4.5M$
Mika Salo 4M$
Jos Verstappen 4M$

Driver 2:
(if we get Mugen-Honda)
Shinji Nakano (PD)
Toranosuke Takagi (PD)
(if we don't get Mugen-Honda)
Pedro De La Rosa (PD)
Laurent Redon (PD)
Max Wilson (PD)

Test Driver:
Stephane Sarrazin 1M$
Soheil Ayari 500k$
Gonzalo Rodríguez 500k$

Team: Scuderia Ferrari

Engine: Ferrari

Tyres: Goodyear

Driver 1:
M Schumacher $15M
M Hakkinen $14M
J Alesi $8M

Driver 2:
G Fisichella $8.5M
R Schumacher $8M
D Coulthard $10M

Driver T:
J Montoya $2.2M
L Badoer $2M
G Morbidelli $2M

Team: Stewart Grand Prix

Engine:
Option 1: Ford VJ (£14 Million)
Option 2: Mugen-Honda (£15 Million)
Option 3: Peugeot (£14 Million)

Tires: Bridgestone

Driver 1:
Heinz-Harold Frentzen (£8.5 Million)
Rubens Barrichello (£7.2 Million)
Eddie Irvine (£7.2 Million)

Driver 2:
Pedro Diniz (PD)
Toranasuke Takagi (PD)
Shinji Nakano (PD)

Driver T:
Esteban Tuero (PD)
Tarso Marques (PD)
Vincenzo Sospiri (£500.000)

Benetton

Tyres - Goodyear

Engine
Mugen Honda - £15M
Mecachrome - £15M
Peugeot - £15M

Driver 1
M Schumacher - £15M
M Hakkinen - £14M
J Villeneuve - £11M

Driver 2
G Fisichella - £6M
J Verstappen - £4M
J Herbert- £5M

Test Driver
P De La Rosa (PD)
T Marques (PD)
M Wilson (PD)

Team: MasterCard Lola Formula One Racing Team

All bids are for base value

Engine:
Option 1: Mecachrome
Option 2: Peugeot
Option 3: One of them cheap Fords, I s'pose

Driver 1 (in case of expensive motors)
Option A: Luca Badoer
Option B: Gianni Morbidelli
Option C: Jules Boullion

Driver 1 (in case of Fords):
Option A: Ralf Schumacher
Option B: Damon Hill
Option C: Eddie Irvine

Driver 2:
Option 1: Juan Pablo Montoya
Option B: Tora Takagi
Option III: Vincenzo Sospiri (because I feel obligated)

Driver T:
First guy: Nakano Shinji
Second fellow: Ricky Tosser
Third man: Pedro Diniz

Oh, and gimme them Bridgestones.

Thanks all - just waiting on Minardi and we'll get the ball rolling with bids.

Rather than wait, let's get going - starting with engine bids:

Ferrari 046
Sauber (100%)
(this isn't XCOM, I don't need to roll this)

Mercedes
McLaren (100%)

Ford VJ
Stewart (100%)

Mugen-Honda (x2)
Williams / £17m (25%) / 1-25
Dome / £15m (15%) / 26-40
Jordan / £15.4m (18%) / 41-58
Prost / £20m (24%) / 59-82
Benetton / £15m (18%) / 82-100

26 and 71! Dome, against all the odds, pick up Mugen engines alongside Prost!

Mecachrome (x2)
Williams / £15m (27%) / 1-27
Tyrrell / £15m (14%) / 28-41
Arrows / £16.5m (19%) / 42-60
Benetton / £15m (27%) / 61-87
Lola / £15m (13%) / 88-100

63 and 7, that's Williams and Benetton reprising their real-life roles.

Peugeot (x2)
Tyrrell / £14m (20%) / 1-20
Arrows / £15.5m (30%) / 21-50
Jordan / £15.1m (30%) / 51-80
Lola / £14m (20%) / 81-100

55 and 7, that's Jordan and Tyrrell!

TWR
Arrows / £9m (100%)

Ford JD

Lola, Minardi / £10m (100%)

Driver bids to come.

crap...i already failed before I even started...$@%@% Mechachrome...

Looking forward to seeing Tyrrell-Peugeot.

On another note, Ataxia what program do you happen to use to sim the racing here?

Kinnikuniverse wrote:crap...i already failed before I even started...$@%@% Mechachrome...

You just made it slightly more realistic

Minardi Bids

Driver 1
Vincenzo Sospiri 500k
Nick Heidfeld 2M
Ricardo Zonta 2M

Driver 2 (All Pay)
Pedro de la Rosa
Shinji Nakano
Tarso Marques

Test Driver (All Pay)
Ricardo Rosset
Tora Takagi
Max Wilson

F1 Livery Histories wrote:Looking forward to seeing Tyrrell-Peugeot.

On another note, Ataxia what program do you happen to use to sim the racing here?

I'll be using the venerable old GP2 to run this.

Thanks for the bids, RedEyes - I'll sort them this evening.

Driver Bids!

Jacques Villeneuve
Bids:
Williams 1st choice / Driver 1 / £12M (1-75)
Benetton 3rd choice / Driver 1 / £11M (76-100)

46! Villeneuve remains with Williams.

Michael Schumacher
Bids:
Ferrari 1st choice / Driver 1 / £15M (1-70)
Benetton 1st choice / Driver 1 / £15M (71-100)

33! Schumacher stays with Ferrari.

Mika Hakkinen
Bids:
Benetton 1st choice / Driver 1 / £14M (1-90)

25! Benetton secures Hakkinen's services for 1998.

Greg Moore
Bids:
McLaren 1st choice / Driver 1 / £4.5M (1-80)
Jordan 1st choice / Driver 2 / £3.9M (81-100)

48! Moore vacates the US to become McLaren's lead driver in F1.

Paul Tracy
Bids:
McLaren 1st choice / Driver 2 / £4.5M (1-80)
Remains in CART (81-100)

95! Tracy elects to remain in CART, joining Team Green for '98.

Jeff Gordon
Bids:
McLaren 2nd choice / Driver 2 / £4.5M (1-50)
Remains in NASCAR (51-100)

75! Gordon sticks to NASCAR.

Dario Franchitti
McLaren 3rd choice / Driver 2 / £3M (1-80)
Remains in CART (81-100)

8! Franchitti moves back to Europe to join McLaren.

Patrick Carpentier
McLaren 1st choice / Test driver / £1M (1-80)
Remains in CART (81-100)

63! Carpentier makes it two Canadians in the McLaren camp.

Heinz-Harald Frentzen
Bids:
Williams 1st choice / Driver 2 / £8M (1-50)
Stewart 1st choice / Driver 1 / £8.5M (51-80)
Sauber 2nd choice / Driver 1 / £7.5M (81-100)

8! Frentzen stays put at Williams, although admits the other two teams put together solid offers.

Giancarlo Fisichella
Bids:
Ferrari 1st choice / Driver 2 / £8.5M (1-60)
Benetton 1st choice / Driver 2 / £8.5M (61-80)
Tyrrell 1st choice / Driver 1 / £8M (81-90)
Sauber 1st choice / Driver 2 / £6M (91-100)

51, Fisichella joins Ferrari!

Alexander Wurz
Bids:
Jordan 1st choice / Driver 1 / £4.7M (1-40)
Prost 1st choice / Driver 1 / £4.5M (41-80)
Sauber 2nd choice / Driver 2 / £4.5M (81-100)

49! Wurz joins Prost as lead driver for 1998.

Alessandro Zanardi
Bids:
Jordan 2nd choice / Driver 1 / £4M (1-90)
Waits (91-100)

38! Zanardi returns to Jordan to lead the team.

Jos Verstappen
Bids:
Benetton 2nd choice / Driver 2 / £4M (1-90)
Waits (91-100)

13! Verstappen partners Hakkinen at Benetton for '98.

Tom Kristensen
Bids:
Jordan 2nd choice / Driver 2 / £3.65M (1-90)
Remains in sportscars (91-100)

53! Kristensen partners Zanardi at Jordan.

Jean Alesi
Bids:
Sauber 1st choice / Driver 1 / £7M (1-60)
Tyrrell 2nd choice / Driver 1 / £8M (61-100)

7! Alesi links up with Sauber.

Mika Salo
Bids:
Sauber 3rd choice / Driver 2 / £4M (1-60)
Dome 1st choice / Driver 1 / £4M (61-100)

83! Salo makes a surprise move to newcomers Dome.

Tom Coronel
Bids:
Arrows 1st choice / Driver 2 / £500k (1-75)
Formula Nippon (76-100)

72! Coronel thinks twice about leaving Japan, but signs the deal with Arrows.

Rubens Barrichello
Bids:
Stewart 2nd choice / Driver 1 / £7.2M (1-90)
Waits (91-100)

44! Barrichello signs up for another year with Stewart.

Ralf Schumacher
Lola 1st choice / Driver 1 / £6M (1-65)
Waits (66-100)

83! Schumacher decides not to go with Lola and instead decides to hang on.

Damon Hill
Bids:
Tyrrell 3rd choice / Driver 1 / £8M (1-50)
Lola 2nd choice / Driver 1 / £8M (51-90)
Retires (91-100)

50! Hill agonises, but ultimately opts for Tyrrell.

Vincenzo Sospiri
Bids:
Minardi 1st choice / Driver 1 / £500k (1-95)
Stewart 3rd choice / Test driver / £500k (96-100)

70! Sospiri signs with Minardi for 1998.

Pedro Diniz
Sauber 1st choice / Test driver / PD (1-5)
Tyrrell 1st choice / Driver 2 / PD (5-65)
Dome 2nd choice / Driver 2 / PD (66-99)
Lola 3rd choice / Test driver / PD (100)

29! Diniz recreates the '97 Arrows line-up at Tyrrell.

Pedro de la Rosa
Benetton 1st choice / Test driver / PD (1-6)
Sauber 1st choice / Test driver / PD (7-10)
Arrows 1st choice / Driver 1 / PD (11-60)
Stewart 1st choice / Driver 2 / PD (61-90)
Tyrrell 1st choice / Test driver / PD (91-93)
Minardi 1st choice / Driver 2 / PD (94-107)
Dome 1st choice / Driver 2 / PD (108-120)

52! The Spanish driver trudges through the multiple offers at his door, and opts for the lead gig at Arrows.

Stephane Sarrazin
Prost 1st choice / Test driver / £1m (1-99)
Waits (100)

93! Sarrazin joins Prost.

Eddie Irvine
Lola 3rd choice / 1st driver / £7m (1-50)
Waits (51-100)

80! With a Sauber seat still up for grabs, Irvine decides to hang on.

Shinji Nakano
Prost 1st choice / 2nd driver / PD (1-60)
Stewart 3rd choice / 2nd driver / PD (61-70)
Minardi 2nd choice / 2nd driver / PD (71-90)
Lola 1st choice / Test driver / PD (91-95)
Dome 1st choice / Test drive / PD (96-100)

35! Prost re-signs Nakano for 1998 to complete its lineup.

Juan Pablo Montoya
Lola 1st choice / 2nd driver / £2M (1-30)
Williams 1st choice / Test driver / £4M (31-75)
Ferrari 1st choice / Test driver / £2.2M (76-100)

62! Montoya signs a lucrative test deal with Williams.

Toranosuke Takagi
Jordan 1st choice / Test driver / PD (1-15)
Stewart 2nd choice / 2nd driver / PD (16-55)
Minardi 2nd choice / Test driver / PD (55-65)
Lola 2nd choice / 2nd driver / PD (65-100)

69! Takagi decides to join Lola, leaving Stewart to bid again for drivers.

Esteban Tuero
Stewart 1st choice / Test driver / PD (1-50)
Arrows 1st choice / Test driver / PD (51-100)

33! Tuero joins Stewart as a test driver.

Tarso Marques
Benetton 2nd choice / Test driver / PD (1-40)
Minardi 3rd choice / 2nd driver / PD (41-100)

22! Marques leaves Minardi behind and decides to accept the test role with Benetton.

Jorg Muller
Jordan 2nd choice / Test driver / £1.15M (1-99)
Waits (100)

41! Muller snares the Jordan test role.

Ricardo Rosset
Minardi 1st choice / Test driver / PD (1-50)
Lola 2nd choice / Test driver / PD (51-100)

14! Rosset joins Minardi's test team for '98.

Norberto Fontana
Dome 3rd choice / 2nd driver / £500k (1-99)
Waits (100)

66! Fontana gets a reprieve on the grid and joins Dome.

Nick Heidfeld
Tyrrell 2nd choice / Test driver / £2m (1-99)
Waits (100)

11! Heidfeld joins Tyrrell as its nominated tester.

Luca Badoer
Ferrari 2nd choice / Test driver / £2m (1-100)

Max Wilson
Arrows 2nd choice / Test driver / PD (1-99)
Waits (100)

30! Arrows completes its 1998 line-up.

Laurent Redon
Sauber 3rd choice / Test driver / PD (1-90)
Waits (91-100)

31! Redon gets the Sauber test drive for '98.

Junichi Wakisaka
Dome 2nd choice / Test driver / PD (1-90)
Stays in Japan (91-100)

46! Wakisaka gets the Dome test role.

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Drives to be filled:

Sauber, Driver 2
Lola, Driver 1 and Test Driver
Stewart, Driver 2
Minardi, Driver 2