1925 AIACR World Championship

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1925 AIACR World Championship

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Welcome, all of you prospective team owners!

Today is January the 1st, 1925, which means it is finally time for the third AIACR World Championship season for Grand Prix racing to begin. :dance:

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Champions in season 2 were Alfa Romeo and Louis Wagner, the experienced pre-war driver, who triumphed through having finished 2nd at both the British and Spanish GP's.

Rudi Caracciola won the Italian Championship and Tommy Milton the AAA Championship in the USA.

1924 thread --> https://gprejects.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8942
1923 thread --> https://gprejects.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8934

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The following team changes have taken place:
- Diatto have elected to allow [/b]Scuderia Ardita[/b] to run their racing team in 1925 and consolidated the possessions of the old factory into the Fiumese team.
- FAST went bankrupt, but fellow Turinese manufacturer Bianchi have re-entered the sport
- Disappointed with the lack of innovation in automotive engineering, Avions Voisin have chosen to henceforth concentrate in aviation
- Struggling with finances, Rolland-Pilain has left Grand Prix racing. Albert Guyot has acquired the remains of the team, and is using his capabilities as an engineer to develop a new version of their 1924 GP car
- Small French manufacturers Mathis and Jean Gras have built voiturettes to contest the British drivers
- The eccentric French driver Jean Graf has acquired the blueprints of the 2 litre Soriano-Pedroso prototype and installed the 1922 Ballot engine into it, expressing bullish hopes of being competitive!
- Disappointed with the lack of victories in 1924, Packard chose to stop funding their racing team. Furious with the disrespect, their team manager "Klon" decided to cut all ties with Packard and left control to his 1924 driver Pete DePaolo! In response, Packard has seized the cars from the team, so the young Californian is now trying to oversee the finalization of the DePaolo Special, trying to turn the stillborn supercharged Packard GP cars into functional racecars - but with the utter lack of engineering expertise in the privateer team, the process looks painfully behind the schedule now...
- 1920 Indy 500 winners Frontenac Motor Company went bankrupt over the winter, with the Chevrolet brothers declaring retirement from motorsport
- The Daimler and Benz companies have merged, meaning that all future Mercedes cars will be branded Mercedes-Benz
- In partnership with Major Ken Thomson, the Welshman J.C. Parry-Thomas - famous for living an ascetic life - has decided built a "Special", aiming to challenge Aston Martin and Alvis for the Grand Prix racing glory
- Martin de Álzaga has moved his privateer team to Buenos Aires. The local manufacturer of the Hispano cars, Hispano-Argentina have granted him branding rights, though the team will continue to be a privateer.

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GAMEPLAY INSTRUCTIONS

As a team owner in this game, your focus will be neither on car development, nor really even on your financial situation. Instead, the most important thing to manage is politics. After all, in a post-WW1 world, bringing your cars to the racetrack may prove to be the most difficult of all challenges!

In this championship, you may wield your political power by making important decisions within your national Automobile Club (AIACR, after all stands for "International Association of International Automobile Clubs") - vote on rulesets, select the race tracks in your countries, decide on political alignments with the powers-that-be, organize boycotts of your rival countries, GP’s and World Championship, and so much more. The more cunning your moves, the better!

To join the game - just post your intention to do so on this thread, state the name of your owner and select whether you wish to manage a factory team (in which case, please state which team) or a privateer (in which case, also state where your team is based).

AVAILABLE TEAMS (LINK)
Teams that say "Free" on the manager tab are available.

Factory teams will always get an annual income on January the 1st. The amount, though, depends on the whims of their factory! Factory teams are not allowed to buy cars, and are only allowed to sell cars at the permission of their factory. On the other hand, privateers start with $1500, are free to base their operations anywhere in the world, but get no annual income. Note that if a privateer does well enough they may be asked by a factory team to become their factory team instead.

Factory teams that do not get a manager will be managed by girry-AI.

Privateer teams will get $1500 of cash but no annual income (other than possible extra funding from their national government if success is achieved). They are able to use any car and get to have their base anywhere in the world. Note that if a privateer does well enough, a struggling factory outfit may ask one to become their factory team instead!

AI-managed privateers might also enter the occasional race.

Word of warning though - the odds are heavily stacked in favour of the factory teams, at least at the beginning of the game!

Car development is automatic and more or less follows the reality (so factory teams will get new shiny cars in their factory automatically - unless the make has a BMW moment & pulls out, of course :sauber:), as does driver skill development. All drivers in the game are real and have realistic talent levels. However, drivers gain experience only by going races (and also improve as they enter their prime / decline as they age and exit it). (There are also ways for privateer teams to develop their cars or even build their own, but it is up for the players to discover how that might happen.)

Driver injuries and deaths will occur through RNG. Hence they are, in fact, fairly likely. So be careful fielding certain IRL famous names too much on the most dangerous circuits of the era - or you might open some sliding doors...

Gameplay is very simple for the team owners. Before each season, there are two phases where you need to make bids, either on this forum thread or through discord. (If you fail to do this, don't worry - your decisions will be AI simulated.) The rest of the season will go through automatically.

Phase 1) Bid on drivers, buy your cars & vote on issues in your Automobile Club

Bidding on drivers is simple - just send a list of drivers & bids you wish to make on in order of priority. The highest bid wins, unless the bid is so small the driver does not wish to accept it, or one of the bids is from his local team, in which case the driver may be more likely to join your team. You can sign unlimited drivers, though after you sign your third driver, the drivers become gradually less likely to accept your bids.

LIST OF AVAILABLE DRIVERS (LINK)

Buying your cars is also simple. Either a) you agree on a fee with a fellow team to buy their old engine and chassis, or b) buy a chassis on the free market - just make your bids; the highest bid wins, this time regardless of nationality.

The issues to vote are subject to change annually. Throughout the season, you will be able to raise issues for the following year - only your imagination (and the AIACR boss’s discretion) is the limit on what you may propose for 1925 and beyond.

In the meantime, here are the 1925 issues all members of the Automobile Clubs will be able to vote for.The option that gets a majority of the votes will win.

1. In light of the fatality of famous Alberto Ascari, should the 1926 Championship be hosted to a formula with a maximum engine capacity of 1.5 litres?
a) Adopt the new formula
b) Do not adopt the new formula
c) Go Formula Libre

2. Should the Royal Automobile Club of Belgium be admitted into the AIACR as a full member? (Effects: Gets admitted, the race at Spa will host the World Championship)
a) Yes
b) No

[b]3. Should the Prize Money system be adjusted?

a) Keep using the the 1923 prize money system
b) "Competing should be purely for the love of it" (Effects: no prize money for anything)
c) "Any and all winnings should be put in a piggy bank dedicated solely to the repairs of cars by teams that already compete. A new team needs to compete for 25 years before they get access to this repair fund" (Effects: this happens)
d) "A race that isn't part of a championship pays out for a race win between 1/15th and 1/10th of the championship prize money for the lowest-paying National Championship that season. The exact value is rolled the week before the event to show the irregular payout from non-championship events." (Effects: This happens, the non-championship race entry fees increase by $30)

4. Should there be a worldwide salary cap?
a) Yes (please propose the amount)
b) No

UK ONLY
4. In light of the Italian protectionism, should the Royal Automobile Club be authorised to sanction a National Championship to the 2.0 litre rules? The championship shall be comprised of races at Ards Circuit, Phoenix Park, Crystal Palace, Donington Park and Brooklands, with the current British Championship to additionally count towards National Championship results.
a) Yes, with the condition that the British teams pay a combined total of $8 000 in hosting fees to assist the race hosts' finances, since the amount of proposed races is high)
b) No

AUSTRIA ONLY:
5. Should Austria start hosting the Österreische Rennwagen Meisterschaft from 1926 onwards?
a) Yes, with the condition that the German teams pay a combined total of $2000 to support the hosts since the Austrian interest in motorsport remains low
b) No

FRANCE ONLY:
6. Should the GP be hosted at the new racetrack in Linas-Montlhéry, or somewhere else?
a) Linas
b) Somewhere else - where?

SPAIN ONLY:
7. Should the Spanish GP be moved to the Lasarte circuit from the financially struggling Sitges-Terramar?
a) Yes - effects: The San Sebastian GP in September becomes the World Championship GP host, Sitges-Terramar becomes a non-championship event
b) No (effects: The teams pay an additional $1000 to assist keeping the Sitges event afloat)

GERMANY ONLY:
8. Should the German Grand Prix, held over 300 laps of the Opel-Rennbahn circuit near Stuttgart, be recognised as a round of the AIACR World Championship?
a) Yes, with the condition that the German teams pay a combined total of $2000 to support the hosts
b) No

9. Should the Automobilclub von Deutschland be authorised to sanction a National Championship within the borders of Germany?
a) Yes, with the condition that the German teams pay a combined total of $5000 to support the hosts
b) No

ITALY ONLY:
10. In light of a French driver using Italian-made vehicles to win the World Championship and depriving the Motherland of its rightful glory, should Italian teams be allowed to only sign Italian drivers henceforth?
a) Only Italian drivers for Italian cars!
b) It's the horse that wins, not the jockey - all drivers must be allowed to race Italian cars

11. Should a Fiumese round be added to the Italian Championship?
a) Yes - effects: every Italian team pays $50 to make this happen
b) No, there's no needs for additional races in the Italian Championship anymore

This phase will end on March 27.



Phase 2) Select the events you wish to take part in

No team is going be able to take part in every event, so as team owner you will have to prioritize events. To enter events, just select the events where you wish to enter your cars #1, #2, #3 etc. and then enter your drivers accordingly. Your team will proceed to try to enter them if it has money to enter them, and enough teams / drivers to race. (Calendar will be found below this section)

You may also request your driver to PUSH HARD at any selected event, which means a similar boost as a favourite track will be used - but his error proneness will also double!

If a driver crashes out of the race with an accident, their car will have to be sent back to the shop. The cost will be covered by insurance, however the car may have to miss races.

In 1925 there are three, four or five championships, with the most prestigious, World Championship events bolded. In addition to the World Championship, there is also the Italian Drivers’ Championship and the AAA Championship in America. If a country hosts enough non championship races, they might also organize a national championship of their own. Each race will be simulated and results posted here and on Discord. A full season will take around 3 to 4 weeks to sim.

This phase will end on 29 March.

(Preliminary) SEASON CALENDAR LINK)

Travel/Entry Costs:
Crossing the Atlantic, USA - United Kingdom, USA - Brazil or Brazil - USA: 40 days, fee: $1000 + $100 per car
Moving the team to a neighbouring country by road network - 4 days. (France and UK, and UK and Ireland are considered neighbouring countries.)
Entry fee for a regular race in home country: $50 per car
Entry fee for a regular race abroad: $100 per car
Entry fee for a World Championship GP: $400 per team

Entry form example (this imaginary team has two cars and three drivers available):
Targa Florio - Car 1 and Car 2 - drivers: A. Stooge, B. Stooge (in order of priority)
Circuito di Cremona - Car 1 and Car 2 - drivers: A. Stooge, B. Stooge
Grand Prix de France - Car 1 - drivers: B. Stooge, C. Stooge
Gran Premio do San Sebastian - Car 2 - drivers: A. Stooge
Beverly Hills Race Autumn - Car 1 and Car 2 - drivers: A. Stooge, B. Stooge, C. Stooge


This imaginary race plan (which, for the record, is *not* financially the smartest race plan - but alas) would incur the total cost of 2*$50 (Targa Florio entry fee) + 2*$50 (Cremona entry fee) + $400 (French GP entry fee) + $100 (San Sebastian entry fee) + $1200 (crossing the Atlantic with two cars) + 2*$100 (Beverly Hills entry fee) = $2100.

Using this race plan with more than two drivers, will help to deal with emergencies. If A. or B. Stooge are injured or dead, they will be replaced by C. Stooge at the French GP and at Beverly Hills - not at the Cremona nor at the San Sebastian, however.


Don’t forget to check the ruleset of the race you are planning to attend! If the car you enter will not comply to the ruleset of the race, you will be disqualified but pay the entry fees anyway.

Rules

World Championship - rules that are set in stone:
To be classified for a World Championship GP, a driver must finish the entire race alone, without relief or a riding mechanic.
To classify for the final standings of the World Championship, a constructor / a driver must start at least two races. Otherwise they will not be classified.
To be classified as a World Championship, the Championship must have at least four events on at least two different continents.
To classify for the World Championship event, the driver must use a car that complies to the pre-agreed rules of the World Championship. Otherwise the car will not be classified for points.
Only full member countries of AIACR have a right to host a World Championship GP.

Prize money for the World Championship: $25 000 for the winning constructor if a drivers’ championship does not exist, or $12 500 for the constructor if a drivers’ championship exists
Prize money for a World Championship event victory: $10 000

Italian Championship
Prize money for the Italian Championship: $10 000 (if foreign entries are permitted) or $5 000 (if foreign entries are not permitted)
No maximum engine capacity

AAA Championship
Prize money for the AAA Championship: $10 000
The engine capacity must be a maximum of 2000cc (2.0 litres) in size.

For the “races abroad” purposes, the ingame countries are the same as the actual 1925 countries.

For home team / home track purposes, countries are treated as a single region - with the following exceptions to make it fairer because the vast majority of drivers are from a handful of countries (so a driver with hometown in France won’t have 800 favourite tracks etc):
- USA is split into the real States
- UK is split into Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Northern England, Midlands and Southern England
- Spain is split into Spain, Basque Country and Catalunya
- France is split into Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Corsica, Southeastern France, Occitanie, Bourgogne-Franche-Comte, Nouvelle-Atlantique, Brittany, Normandy, Haute-de-France, Île-de-France, Northeastern France, Auvergne-Rhone-Alpes and Central France
- Italy is split into Libya, Sardinia, Sicily, Southern Italy, Central Italy, Tuscany, Emilia-Romagna, Northwestern Italy, Lombardy and Southeastern italy
- Germany is split into Bavaria, Southwestern Germany, Northwestern Germany and Eastern Germany

Drivers are more likely to join a team whose headquarters are on the same region as their hometown. They are also more likely to perform better on a track that is located on the same region as their hometown.

Relevant Countries in 1925:
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Here's to a successful 1925 season - and again, any new players are welcome to join the game anytime!
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Re: 1925 AIACR World Championship

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1. In light of the fatality of famous Alberto Ascari, should the 1926 Championship be hosted to a formula with a maximum engine capacity of 1.5 litres?
b) Do not adopt the new formula

[b]2. Should the Royal Automobile Club of Belgium be admitted into the AIACR as a full member? (Effects: Gets admitted, the Belgian GP hosts a World Championship GP
a) Yes

4. Should the Automobilclub von Deutschland be authorised to sanction a National Championship within the borders of Germany?
a) Yes

AUSTRIA ONLY:
5. Should Austria start hosting the Österreische Rennwagen Meisterschaft from 1926 onwards?
b) lol No
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1. In light of the fatality of famous Alberto Ascari, should the 1926 Championship be hosted to a formula with a maximum engine capacity of 1.5 litres?
a) Adopt the new formula
b) Do not adopt the new formula
c) Go Formula Libre


Alfa Romeo says keep with the 2.0 litres formula. As much as Signore Ascari's death saddens us, we feel there is no need to change a working formula.



2. Should the Royal Automobile Club of Belgium be admitted into the AIACR as a full member? (Effects: Gets admitted, the Belgian GP hosts a World Championship GP
a) Yes
b) No

Alfa Romeo says Yes to welcoming Belgium into the association.


4. Should the Automobilclub von Deutschland be authorised to sanction a National Championship within the borders of Germany?
a) Yes
b) No


Alfa Romeo says "heh, sure."







GERMANY ONLY:
7. Should the German Grand Prix, held over 300 laps of the Opel-Rennbahn circuit near Stuttgart, be recognised as a round of the AIACR World Championship?
a) Yes; The German teams need to cough up a total of $2000 to support the hosts
b) No


Alfa Romeo says Yes.
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Re: 1925 AIACR World Championship

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Mercedes-Benz would like to vote as follows:

1. In light of the fatality of famous Alberto Ascari, should the 1926 Championship be hosted to a formula with a maximum engine capacity of 1.5 litres?
a) Adopt the new formula
b) Do not adopt the new formula
c) Go Formula Libre

2. Should the Royal Automobile Club of Belgium be admitted into the AIACR as a full member? (Effects: Gets admitted, the Belgian GP hosts a World Championship GP
a) Yes
b) No

3. Should the Prize Money system be adjusted?
a) Keep using the the 1923 prize money system
b) "Competing should be purely for the love of it" (Effects: no prize money for anything)
c) "Any and all winnings should be put in a piggy bank dedicated solely to the repairs of cars by teams that already compete. A new team needs to compete for 25 years before they get access to this repair fund" (Effects: this happens)
d) "A race that isn't part of a championship pays out for a race win between 1/15th and 1/10th of the championship prize money for the lowest-paying National Championship that season. The exact value is rolled the week before the event to show the irregular payout from non-championship events." (Effects: This happens, the non-championship race entry fees increase by $30)


GERMANY ONLY:
8. Should the German Grand Prix, held over 300 laps of the Opel-Rennbahn circuit near Stuttgart, be recognised as a round of the AIACR World Championship?
a) Yes; The German teams need to cough up a total of $2000 to support the hosts
b) No

9. Should the Automobilclub von Deutschland be authorised to sanction a National Championship within the borders of Germany?
a) Yes; The German teams need to cough up a total of $5000 to support the hosts
b) No

Mercedes-Benz would also like to emphasise that we are prepared to assist with any costs that our fellow German manufacturers may be unable to meet, viewing this as an investment in our long-term success as a nation.

Our driver bids are:
  1. Christian Werner (as contracted)
  2. Rudolf Caracciola - £2,000 (3 years)
  3. Tazio Nuvolari - £2,000 (3 years)
  4. Christian Lautenschlager - £1,000 (1 year), if he'll come out of retirement for one final year of racing
  5. Alfred Neubauer - £500 (3 years)
  6. Otto Merz - £300 (3 years)
  7. Gräfin Margot von Einsiedel - -£4,000 (3 years)
  8. Prinz Maximilian "Max" zu Schaumburg-Lippe - -£5,000 (3 years)
  9. Prince Bertrand Lucigne - -£6,000 (3 years)
  10. Count Louis Zborowski - -£5,000 (3 years)
  11. Barone Amedeo Sillitti - -£5,000 (3 years)
  12. Baron Vladimir Sergeïevitch Rachewsky - -£5,000 (3 years)
  13. Adolf Rosenberger - £0 (3 years)
  14. Comte Aymo Maggi - -£5,000 (3 years)
  15. Gustav Munz - £0 (1 year)

We will sign the first 11 drivers to accept (they are listed in order of preference), and guarantee those eleven drivers the opportunity to compete in Championship races.
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Alfa Romeo Europe Driver Bids

We accept only 4 drivers for our European team

1. Rudi Caracciola - $7,000 - 4 years
2. Tazio Nuvolari - $7,000 - 4 years
3. Pietro Bordino - $2000 - 2 years
4. Hermann Rutzler - $700 - 3 years.
5. Louis Wagner - $700
6. Rene thomas - $500
7. Nando Minoia - $400
8. Gastone Birilli-Peri - $600

Alfa Romeo of America

We only accept 2 full time drivers and 1 indy 500-only driver for Alfa Romeo of America. We will send our 3 Alfa P1s to America, effective Immediately. First 2 dirvers to sign are full-time, the 3rd to sign is Indy 500 only.

1. Pete DePaolo $500
2. Harry Hartz $250
3. Alfred Moss $200
4. Earl Cooper $200
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1. In light of the fatality of famous Alberto Ascari, should the 1926 Championship be hosted to a formula with a maximum engine capacity of 1.5 litres?
a) Adopt the new formula
b) Do not adopt the new formula
c) Go Formula Libre

2. Should the Royal Automobile Club of Belgium be admitted into the AIACR as a full member? (Effects: Gets admitted, the Belgian GP hosts a World Championship GP)
a) Yes
b) No

3. Should the Prize Money system be adjusted?
a) Keep using the the 1923 prize money system
b) "Competing should be purely for the love of it" (Effects: no prize money for anything)
c) "Any and all winnings should be put in a piggy bank dedicated solely to the repairs of cars by teams that already compete. A new team needs to compete for 25 years before they get access to this repair fund" (Effects: this happens)
d) "A race that isn't part of a championship pays out for a race win between 1/15th and 1/10th of the championship prize money for the lowest-paying National Championship that season. The exact value is rolled the week before the event to show the irregular payout from non-championship events." (Effects: This happens, the non-championship race entry fees increase by $30)

4. Should there be a worldwide salary cap?
a) Yes (please propose the amount) (We propose a yearly cap of $3000 per team regarding combined driver salaries. No limit on paydriver payments, but they are NOT counted as negative in the driver salaries total.)
b) No

4. Should the Automobilclub von Deutschland be authorised to sanction a National Championship within the borders of Germany?
a) Yes
b) No


FRANCE ONLY:
5. Should the GP be hosted at the new racetrack in Linas-Montlhéry, or somewhere else?
a) Linas (Full Circuit is preferable)
b) Somewhere else - where?


Driver Bids:

We will accept the first 3 drivers that sign (not counting Thomas). We promise all signed drivers will have seat time for races for this season if car inventory permits.

0) René Thomas (Under Contract)

Paydriver requests in RED

1) Prince Bertrand Lucigne -$6000 - 3 years
2) "Dribus" $500 - 2 years
3) Albert Divo $500 - 2 years
4) Edmond Bourlier $0 - 1 year
5) Diego de Sterlich -$1000 - 1 year
6) André Rossignol $0 - 1 year
7) Robert Sénéchal $0 - 1 year
8) Gaston Delalande $0 - 1 year
9) Comte Aymo Maggi -$1000 - 1 year
10) Antoine Mourre $0 - 1 year
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Updated the proposals

1. In light of the fatality of famous Alberto Ascari, should the 1926 Championship be hosted to a formula with a maximum engine capacity of 1.5 litres?
a) Adopt the new formula
b) Do not adopt the new formula
c) Go Formula Libre

2. Should the Royal Automobile Club of Belgium be admitted into the AIACR as a full member? (Effects: Gets admitted, the race at Spa will host the World Championship)
a) Yes
b) No

[b]3. Should the Prize Money system be adjusted?

a) Keep using the the 1923 prize money system
b) "Competing should be purely for the love of it" (Effects: no prize money for anything)
c) "Any and all winnings should be put in a piggy bank dedicated solely to the repairs of cars by teams that already compete. A new team needs to compete for 25 years before they get access to this repair fund" (Effects: this happens)
d) "A race that isn't part of a championship pays out for a race win between 1/15th and 1/10th of the championship prize money for the lowest-paying National Championship that season. The exact value is rolled the week before the event to show the irregular payout from non-championship events." (Effects: This happens, the non-championship race entry fees increase by $30)

UK ONLY
4. In light of the Italian protectionism, should the Royal Automobile Club be authorised to sanction a National Championship to the 2.0 litre rules? The championship shall be comprised of races at Ards Circuit, Phoenix Park, Crystal Palace, Donington Park and Brooklands, with the current British Championship to additionally count towards National Championship results.
a) Yes, with the condition that the British teams pay a combined total of $10 000 in hosting fees to assist the race hosts' finances, since the amount of proposed races is high)
b) No

AUSTRIA ONLY:
5. Should Austria start hosting the Österreische Rennwagen Meisterschaft from 1926 onwards?
a) Yes, with the condition that the German teams pay a combined total of $2000 to support the hosts since the Austrian interest in motorsport remains low
b) No

FRANCE ONLY:
6. Should the GP be hosted at the new racetrack in Linas-Montlhéry, or somewhere else?
a) Linas
b) Somewhere else - where?

SPAIN ONLY:
7. Should the Spanish GP be moved to the Lasarte circuit from the financially struggling Sitges-Terramar?
a) Yes - effects: The San Sebastian GP in September becomes the World Championship GP host, Sitges-Terramar becomes a non-championship event
b) No (effects: The teams pay an additional $1000 to assist keeping the Sitges event afloat)

GERMANY ONLY:
8. Should the German Grand Prix, held over 300 laps of the Opel-Rennbahn circuit near Stuttgart, be recognised as a round of the AIACR World Championship?
a) Yes, with the condition that the German teams pay a combined total of $2000 to support the hosts
b) No

9. Should the Automobilclub von Deutschland be authorised to sanction a National Championship within the borders of Germany?
a) Yes, with the condition that the German teams pay a combined total of $5000 to support the hosts
b) No

ITALY ONLY:
10. In light of a French driver using Italian-made vehicles to win the World Championship and depriving the Motherland of its rightful glory, should Italian teams be allowed to only sign Italian drivers henceforth?
a) Only Italian drivers for Italian cars!
b) It's the horse that wins, not the jockey - all drivers must be allowed to race Italian cars

11. Should a Fiumese round be added to the Italian Championship?
a) Yes - effects: every Italian team pays $50 to make this happen
b) No, there's no needs for additional races in the Italian Championship anymore
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3. Should the Prize Money system be adjusted?
a) Keep using the the 1923 prize money system
b) "Competing should be purely for the love of it" (Effects: no prize money for anything)
c) "Any and all winnings should be put in a piggy bank dedicated solely to the repairs of cars by teams that already compete. A new team needs to compete for 25 years before they get access to this repair fund" (Effects: this happens)
d) "A race that isn't part of a championship pays out for a race win between 1/15th and 1/10th of the championship prize money for the lowest-paying National Championship that season. The exact value is rolled the week before the event to show the irregular payout from non-championship events." (Effects: This happens, the non-championship race entry fees increase by $30)

Alfa Romeo votes A

10. In light of a French driver using Italian-made vehicles to win the World Championship and depriving the Motherland of its rightful glory, should Italian teams be allowed to only sign Italian drivers henceforth?
a) Only Italian drivers for Italian cars!
b) It's the horse that wins, not the jockey - all drivers must be allowed to race Italian cars

Alfa Romeo votes B. This proposal is ridiculous. Who cares who drives it, as long as its an italian car winning championships.

11. Should a Fiumese round be added to the Italian Championship?
a) Yes - effects: every Italian team pays $50 to make this happen
b) No, there's no needs for additional races in the Italian Championship anymore

Alfa Romeo says yes.
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The Alvis Car Company wishes to vote for option A on proposals 1, 2 and 4 and option D for proposal 3.

As for our race itinerary and driver preferences, they are as follows:
Races entered: (provisional, exact entries TBD)
Grand Prix de Provence (Drivers 1 & 2 only)
Brooklands Trophy (Drivers 1 & 3 PUSH HARD)
Eifelrennen (Drivers 1 & 3 only)
British Grand Prix (Drivers 1 & 3 PUSH HARD)
Irish Grand Prix (Drivers 1 & 2 PUSH HARD)
Ards Trophy (Driver 1 PUSH HARD)
Junior Car Club 200 (Drivers 1 & 3 PUSH HARD)

Driver 1:
John Duff (GBR/CAN, 22 Guineas (~$112) )
J.G. Parry-Thomas (GBR, 20 Guineas (~$102))

Driver 2:
Dudley Benjafield (GBR, 20 Guineas (~$102) )
J.G. Parry-Thomas (GBR, 20 Guineas (~$102), if not Driver 1)
George Duller (GBR, 18 Guineas (~$91) )

Driver 3 ('23 spec 12/50):
J.G. Parry-Thomas (GBR, 20 Guineas (~$102), if not Driver 1 or 2)
George Duller (GBR, 18 Guineas (~$91), if not Driver 2 )

It must be said that the Alvis Car Company is somewhat dismayed by the rather vulgar sums of money being thrown around by other teams in the pursuit of the employment of certain drivers; surely those at the wheel of grand prix automobiles should be motivated more by the thrill of competing and of progressing the development of motor vehicles rather than extravagant salaries; one could say the mercenaries Alfa Romeo intend to hire will be focussed more on their bank balances than on the road ahead!

In our opinion a salary cap must be brought in to bring a stop to this flagrant profiteering on the part of some drivers and restore honour to the sport.
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A salary cap will be proposed to the AIACR.
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AI driver bids

Nazzaro:
Felice Nazzaro $0 - 2 years
Dario Resta $1500 - 2 years
Pietro Bordino $1500 - 2 years
Hermann Rützler $500 - 2 years
Aymo Maggi -$2000 - 1 year
Carlo Salamano $0 - 1 year

Chiribiri:
Gigi Platé $200 - 1 year
Emilio Materassi $0 - 1 year
Giovanni Minozzi $0 - 1 year

SPA
Amedeo Sillitti -$2000 - 1 year
Enrico Giaccone $0 - 1 year
Gaspare Bona $0 - 1 year
Caberto Conelli $0 - 1 year

Bianchi
Carlo Masetti -$500 - 1 year
Ugo Sivocci $0 - 1 year
Federico Valpreda $0 - 1 year
Meo Costantini $0 - 1 year

Guyot
Albert Guyot $0 - 1 year
Edmond Bourlier $0 - 1 year
Ernest Friderich $0 - 1 year
Jean Chassagne $0 - 1 year

Peugeot
Louis Wagner $1000 - 1 year
"Dribus" $500 - 1 year
Jules Goux $0 - 1 year
André Dubonnet $0 - 1 year

Mathis
Louis Regal $0 - 1 year
André Rossignol $0 - 1 year

Jean Gras
"de Joncy" $0 - 1 year
Henry Stoffel $0 - 1 year

Jean Graf
Jean Graf $0 - 1 year
Antoine Mourre $0 - 1 year

Miller
Tommy Milton $2000 - 2 years
Jimmy Murphy $2000 - 2 years
Harry Hartz $1000 - 1 year
Ralph DePalma $1000 - 1 year
Fred Comer $0 - 1 year
Leon Duray $0 - 1 year

Duesenberg
Tommy Milton $3000 - 2 years
Peter Kreis $1000 - 2 years
Wade Morton $0 - 1 year
Red Shafer $0 - 1 year

Durant
Earl Cooper $500 - 1 year
Dave Lewis $500 - 1 year

Steiger
Franz Hörner $0 - 1 year
Willy Walb $0 - 1 year

AGA
Hans Kolb $0 - 1 year
Jakob Scholl $0 - 1 year

Thomas
J.G. Parry-Thomas $0 - 1 year

Impéria
Arthur Duray $100 - 1 year
Freddy Thelusson $0 - 1 year
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Steyr voting on the updated proposals:

3. Should the Prize Money system be adjusted?
d)

4. Budget cap
Yes, we'd propose a cap of 1000$ across all drivers for a team.

Steyr driver bids
accept the highest 3 of this list:
1. Rudi Caracciola $2000 2-years
1b. Tazio Nuvolari $2000 2-years (only accept if 1 doesn't accept)
2. Hermann Rützler $1000 2-years
3. Otto Merz $500 1-year
4. August "Bubi" Momberger $50 1-year
5. Adolf Rosenberger $50 1-year
6. Hans Kolb $50 1-year
7. Jakob Scholl $50 1-year
8. Franz Hörner $50 1-year
9. Willy Walb $50 1-year

Paydriver list
Accept 1(more if seats above aren't filled, to get to a total of 4 drivers) driver from this list:
1. Prinz Maximilian "Max" zu Schaumburg-Lippe -$4000 1-year
2. Edgar Morawitz von Frank -$4000 1-year
3. Dr. Otto Lindpaintner -$4000 1-year
4. Gräfin Margot von Einsiedel -$4000 1-year
5. Baron Vladimir Sergeïevitch Rachewsky -$4000 1-year
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Sunbeam Driver Bids - 1925:

First Team

Dario Resta - £205 ($1,000) - 2 years
Henry Segrave - £205 ($1,000) - 2 years

Second Team (Gentleman Drivers are expected to provide a stipend to assist in financing the overall effort; this expected stipend shall be written in red.)

Bernard Rubin - £1,027 ($5,000) - 3 years
Sir Henry Ralph Stanley "Tim" Birkin, 3rd Baronet - £1,027 ($5,000) - 3 years
Glen Kidston - £1,027 ($5,000) - 3 years

1. In light of the fatality of famous Alberto Ascari, should the 1926 Championship be hosted to a formula with a maximum engine capacity of 1.5 litres?
a) Adopt the new formula
b) Do not adopt the new formula
c) Go Formula Libre

A. Sunbeam considers the worrying obsession with ever-greater displacements to be an exercise in engineering futility.

2. Should the Royal Automobile Club of Belgium be admitted into the AIACR as a full member? (Effects: Gets admitted, the race at Spa will host the World Championship)
a) Yes
b) No

A. Out of a feeling of paternalism and kinship towards the Belgians, Sunbeam graciously assents to the admission of the RAC of Belgium to the AIACR.

3. Should the Prize Money system be adjusted?
a) Keep using the the 1923 prize money system
b) "Competing should be purely for the love of it" (Effects: no prize money for anything)
c) "Any and all winnings should be put in a piggy bank dedicated solely to the repairs of cars by teams that already compete. A new team needs to compete for 25 years before they get access to this repair fund" (Effects: this happens)
d) "A race that isn't part of a championship pays out for a race win between 1/15th and 1/10th of the championship prize money for the lowest-paying National Championship that season. The exact value is rolled the week before the event to show the irregular payout from non-championship events." (Effects: This happens, the non-championship race entry fees increase by $30)

A.

4. Should there be a worldwide salary cap?
a) Yes (please propose the amount)
b) No

B.

UK ONLY
4. In light of the Italian protectionism, should the Royal Automobile Club be authorised to sanction a National Championship to the 2.0 litre rules? The championship shall be comprised of races at Ards Circuit, Phoenix Park, Crystal Palace, and Brooklands, with the current British Championship to additionally count towards National Championship results.
a) Yes, with the condition that the British teams pay a combined total of $8 000 in hosting fees to assist the race hosts' finances, since the amount of proposed races is high)
b) No

A. Out of its boundless altruism, a sense of solidarity and camaraderie with its fellow British participants, and a deep, abiding devotion to furthering the cause of King and Empire, Sunbeam is willing to cover the entirety of the hosting fees necessary.
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4. Should there be a worldwide salary cap?
a) Yes (please propose the amount)
b) No

Alfa votes B.
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In the meantime, here are the 1925 issues all members of the Automobile Clubs will be able to vote for.The option that gets a majority of the votes will win.

1. In light of the fatality of famous Alberto Ascari, should the 1926 Championship be hosted to a formula with a maximum engine capacity of 1.5 litres?
a) Adopt the new formula
b) Do not adopt the new formula
c) Go Formula Libre

2. Should the Royal Automobile Club of Belgium be admitted into the AIACR as a full member? (Effects: Gets admitted, the race at Spa will host the World Championship)
a) Yes
b) No

3. Should the Prize Money system be adjusted?
a) Keep using the the 1923 prize money system
b) "Competing should be purely for the love of it" (Effects: no prize money for anything)
c) "Any and all winnings should be put in a piggy bank dedicated solely to the repairs of cars by teams that already compete. A new team needs to compete for 25 years before they get access to this repair fund" (Effects: this happens)
d) "A race that isn't part of a championship pays out for a race win between 1/15th and 1/10th of the championship prize money for the lowest-paying National Championship that season. The exact value is rolled the week before the event to show the irregular payout from non-championship events." (Effects: This happens, the non-championship race entry fees increase by $30)

4. Should there be a worldwide salary cap?
a) Yes (please propose the amount) Drivers should drive for free.
b) No

ITALY ONLY:
10. In light of a French driver using Italian-made vehicles to win the World Championship and depriving the Motherland of its rightful glory, should Italian teams be allowed to only sign Italian drivers henceforth?
a) Only Italian drivers for Italian cars!
b) It's the horse that wins, not the jockey - all drivers must be allowed to race Italian cars

11. Should a Fiumese round be added to the Italian Championship?
a) Yes - effects: every Italian team pays $50 to make this happen
b) No, there's no needs for additional races in the Italian Championship anymore

This phase will end on March 27.


Driver bids:

Full-time:
Baconin Borzacchini ($300, 1yr)
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Vauxhall Motors Bids, Entries & Votes

BIDS:
A.J. Hancock (as before, he's a member of the management at the Luton plant)
Ernest Eldridge ($100 per race)

ENTRIES:
Brooklands Trophy
British Grand Prix
Irish Grand Prix
Ards Trophy

VOTES:
1. In light of the fatality of famous Alberto Ascari, should the 1926 Championship be hosted to a formula with a maximum engine capacity of 1.5 litres?
a) Adopt the new formula
b) Do not adopt the new formula
c) Go Formula Libre

c) In the spirit of innovation, Vauxhall believes that manufacturers should be free to experiment.

2. Should the Royal Automobile Club of Belgium be admitted into the AIACR as a full member? (Effects: Gets admitted, the race at Spa will host the World Championship)
a) Yes
b) No

a) Vauxhall supports the expansion of the sport.

3. Should the Prize Money system be adjusted?
a) Keep using the the 1923 prize money system
b) "Competing should be purely for the love of it" (Effects: no prize money for anything)
c) "Any and all winnings should be put in a piggy bank dedicated solely to the repairs of cars by teams that already compete. A new team needs to compete for 25 years before they get access to this repair fund" (Effects: this happens)
d) "A race that isn't part of a championship pays out for a race win between 1/15th and 1/10th of the championship prize money for the lowest-paying National Championship that season. The exact value is rolled the week before the event to show the irregular payout from non-championship events." (Effects: This happens, the non-championship race entry fees increase by $30)

a) Vauxhall believes that the current system is fair.

UK ONLY
4. In light of the Italian protectionism, should the Royal Automobile Club be authorised to sanction a National Championship to the 2.0 litre rules? The championship shall be comprised of races at Ards Circuit, Phoenix Park, Crystal Palace, Donington Park and Brooklands, with the current British Championship to additionally count towards National Championship results.
a) Yes, with the condition that the British teams pay a combined total of $10 000 in hosting fees to assist the race hosts' finances, since the amount of proposed races is high)
b) No

A) Yes. This will be extremely valuable to promote the interests of British engineering. Vauxhall will be willing to contribute a fair, proportional amount towards this.
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Bugatti bids
Jules Goux $500 - 1 year
Albert Divo $500 - 1 year
Meo Costantini $0 - 1 year
Ernest Friderich $0 - 1 year
Pierre Marco $0 - 1 year
Pierre de Vizcaya -$1000 - 1 year
Fernand de Vizcaya -$1000 - 1 year

Aston Martin bids
Count Louis Zborowski -$1500 - 1 year

Aston Martin votes
According to Sunbeam

Nazzaro car bids
1x Mercedes GP 1914 $500

DePaolo car bids
2x Miller $500 each
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Alfa Romeo updated bids for the American team

-Pete dePaolo - 1000$
-Harry Hartz - 1000$
-Joe Boyer - 400$
-Alfred Moss- 400$
- Dave Lewis - 250$
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Elizalde Bids (in order of preference):
Part 1 (Pay drivers, hire 1 driver)
Bertrand Lucigne -$1000
Vladimir Rachewsky -$1000

Part 2 (Hired drivers, hire 2 drivers)
Ignacio Zubiaga $200
Fernand de Vizcaya $100
Carl Deilmann $100

Elizalde Votes
1. In light of the fatality of famous Alberto Ascari, should the 1926 Championship be hosted to a formula with a maximum engine capacity of 1.5 litres?
No.

2. Should the Royal Automobile Club of Belgium be admitted into the AIACR as a full member? (Effects: Gets admitted, the race at Spa will host the World Championship)
Yes.

3. Should the Prize Money system be adjusted?
Elizalde votes D.

4. Should there be a worldwide salary cap?
Yes. $3000 provides a nice compromise between giving drivers a worthwhile wage & stopping the top teams from monopolizing the top talent.

7. Should the Spanish GP be moved to the Lasarte circuit from the financially struggling Sitges-Terramar?
No. Elizalde will pay $1000 to keep Sitges-Terramar running in 1925.
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In case the $3000 salary cap proposed by dan goes through, does that mean we will reset the biddings and bid again?
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No, will just mean that all salaries you'll have offered will be adjusted to whatever the maximum proposed amounts are
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Ok, thanks...
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Hispano-Argentina Driver bids:

American Division: (Hire in order, at most two)
Leon Duray / $150 (May and June 1925) Propose driver to split his obligations with whomever the other employer may be.
Eddie Hearne / $120 (May and June 1925)
Ralph Hepburn / $50
Earl Cooper / $120 (May and June 1925) Propose driver to split his obligations with whomever the other employer may be.
Dave Lewis / $120 (May and June 1925)
Phil Schafer / $80 (May and June 1925) Propose driver to split his obligations with whomever the other employer may be.

European Division:
Prinz Maximilian "Max" zu Schaumburg-Lippe / -$2000
Dr. Otto Lindpaintner / -$1500
Gräfin Margot von Einsiedel / -$1500
Baron Vladimir Rachewsky / -$800
Count Louis Zborowski / -$750
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In the meantime, here are the 1925 issues all members of the Automobile Clubs will be able to vote for.The option that gets a majority of the votes will win.

1. In light of the fatality of famous Alberto Ascari, should the 1926 Championship be hosted to a formula with a maximum engine capacity of 1.5 litres?
b) Do not adopt the new formula

2. Should the Royal Automobile Club of Belgium be admitted into the AIACR as a full member? (Effects: Gets admitted, the race at Spa will host the World Championship)
a) Yes

3. Should the Prize Money system be adjusted?
a) Keep using the the 1923 prize money system

4. Should there be a worldwide salary cap?
b) No

UK ONLY
4. In light of the Italian protectionism, should the Royal Automobile Club be authorised to sanction a National Championship to the 2.0 litre rules? The championship shall be comprised of races at Ards Circuit, Phoenix Park, Crystal Palace, Donington Park and Brooklands, with the current British Championship to additionally count towards National Championship results.
a) Yes, with the condition that the British teams pay a combined total of $8 000 in hosting fees to assist the race hosts' finances, since the amount of proposed races is high

AUSTRIA ONLY:
5. Should Austria start hosting the Österreische Rennwagen Meisterschaft from 1926 onwards?
b) No

FRANCE ONLY:
6. Should the GP be hosted at the new racetrack in Linas-Montlhéry, or somewhere else?
a) Linas

SPAIN ONLY:
7. Should the Spanish GP be moved to the Lasarte circuit from the financially struggling Sitges-Terramar?
b) No (effects: The teams pay an additional $1000 to assist keeping the Sitges event afloat)

GERMANY ONLY:
8. Should the German Grand Prix, held over 300 laps of the Opel-Rennbahn circuit near Stuttgart, be recognised as a round of the AIACR World Championship?
a) Yes, with the condition that the German teams pay a combined total of $2000 to support the hosts

9. Should the Automobilclub von Deutschland be authorised to sanction a National Championship within the borders of Germany?
a) Yes, with the condition that the German teams pay a combined total of $5000 to support the hosts

ITALY ONLY:
10. In light of a French driver using Italian-made vehicles to win the World Championship and depriving the Motherland of its rightful glory, should Italian teams be allowed to only sign Italian drivers henceforth?
a) Only Italian drivers for Italian cars! (won the RNG)

11. Should a Fiumese round be added to the Italian Championship?
a) Yes - effects: every Italian team pays $50 to make this happen
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In light of our unfilled seats, Mercedes-Benz woild like to make the following offers:
  • Sir Malcolm Campbell - -£2,000 (1 year)
  • Ernst Udet -£4,000 (3 years)
  • Marchese Diego de Sterlich - -£6,000 (3 years)
  • Hans Stuck von Villiez - £0 (5 years)
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Sir Malcolm Campbell has accepted the Mercedes-Benz bid.
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Sunbeam would like to make the following offer:

Frank Clement - $500 - 2 years.
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Following feedback on our first bids, we would like to reapproach the following drivers:
  • Ernst Udet £400 (1 years)
  • Marchese Diego de Sterlich - -£5,000 (3 years)
  • Hans Stuck von Villiez - £0, plus first refusal for next year so long as we increase his offered salary (1 year)
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Frank Clement, Ernst Udet and Hans Stuck have accepted the proposals.
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Following that last refusal...

Mercedes-Benz approaches the following drivers, promising them a full campaign in their national championship:
  1. Guido Meregalli - -$5,000 (1 year)
  2. Filippo Sartorio - -$5,000 (1 year)
  3. Ogniben Alverà - -$5,000 (1 year)
  4. Eugenio Silvani - -$5,000 (1 year)
  5. Luigi Spinozzi - -$5,000 (1 year)
  6. Filippo Tassara - -$5,000 (1 year)
  7. Mario Lepori - -$5,000 (1 year)
  8. Renato Balestrero - -$5,000 (1 year)
  9. Edoardo Weber - -$5,000 (1 year)
  10. Ugo Sisto Stefanell i- -$5,000 (1 year)

Please stop after one more driver accepts

If they all refuse, I would like to ask them again for $4,000, then for $3,000

Once I've sorted this last seat out, I will put together my drivers' calendars
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Marchese de Sterlich has politely declined the offer, now refusing to listen to any more bids from Mercedes-Benz.
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Filippo Tassara has accepted Mercedes Benz offer and is willing to pay $4000 for the season.
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Delage sends the following offer:

Marchese Diego de Sterlich $2000 - 1 year
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Marchese de Sterlich has accepted Delage's proposal.
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1925 ALFA ROMEO SCHEDULE

TAZIO NUVOLARI

Circuito del camaro - Alfa RTLF
Premio Reale di Roma- Alfa RLTF
Circuito di alessandria- Alfa RTLF
Targa florio - Alfa RTLF
Circuito del savio - alfa RTLF
Coppa della perugina - Alfa RTLF
Circuito del mugello - Alfa RTLF
GRAND PRIX DE BELGIQUE - Alfa P2 1925
BRITISH GP - Alfa P2 1925 (PUSH HARD)
GRAND PRIX DE FRANCE - Alfa P2 1925
GERMAN GP - Alfa P2 1925
Coppa Montenero - Alfa RTLF
GRAN PREMIO D'ITALIA - Alfa P2 1925 (PUSH HARD)
GRAN PREMIO D'ESPANA - Alfa P2 1925
Circuito del gard - Alfa RLTF

PIETRO BORDINO

Circuito del camaro - Alfa RTLF
Premio Reale di Roma- Alfa RLTF
Circuito di alessandria- Alfa RTLF
Targa florio - Alfa RTLF
Circuito del savio - alfa RTLF
Coppa della perugina - Alfa RTLF
Circuito del mugello - Alfa RTLF
GRAND PRIX DE BELGIQUE - Alfa P2 1925
BRITISH GP - Alfa P2 1925 (PUSH HARD)
GRAND PRIX DE FRANCE - Alfa P2 1925
GERMAN GP - Alfa P2 1925 (PUSH HARD)
Coppa Montenero - Alfa RTLF
GRAN PREMIO D'ITALIA - Alfa P2 1925 (PUSH HARD)
GRAN PREMIO D'ESPANA - Alfa P2 1925
Circuito del gard - Alfa RLTF

GASTONE BRILI-PERI

Circuito del camaro - Alfa RTLF
Premio Reale di Roma- Alfa RLTF
Circuito di alessandria- Alfa RTLF
Targa florio - Alfa RTLF
Circuito del savio - alfa RTLF
Coppa della perugina - Alfa RTLF
Circuito del mugello - Alfa RTLF
GRAND PRIX DE BELGIQUE - Alfa P2 1925
BRITISH GP - Alfa P2 1925 (PUSH HARD)
GRAND PRIX DE FRANCE - Alfa P2 1925
GERMAN GP - Alfa P2 1925
Coppa Montenero - Alfa RTLF
GRAN PREMIO D'ITALIA - Alfa P2 1925 (PUSH HARD)
GRAN PREMIO D'ESPANA - Alfa P2 1925
Circuito del gard - Alfa RLTF

NANDO MINOIA

Circuito del camaro - Alfa RTLF
Premio Reale di Roma- Alfa RLTF
Circuito di alessandria- Alfa RTLF
Targa florio - Alfa RTLF
Circuito del savio - alfa RTLF
Coppa della perugina - Alfa RTLF
Circuito del mugello - Alfa RTLF
GRAND PRIX DE BELGIQUE - Alfa P2
BRITISH GP - Alfa P2 1925 (PUSH HARD)
GRAND PRIX DE FRANCE - Alfa P2
GERMAN GP - Alfa P2 1925
Coppa Montenero - Alfa RTLF
GRAN PREMIO D'ITALIA - Alfa P2 (PUSH HARD)
GRAN PREMIO D'ESPANA - Alfa P2
Circuito del gard - Alfa RLTF
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Re: 1925 AIACR World Championship

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Hispano-Argentina wishes to make the following purchases:

To be delivered at the Bologna Garages:
1x Hispano-Argentina H6 ($150 - sponsorship discount)
1x Miller 122 ($100)

To be delivered at the Dayton Garages:
2x Miller 122 Durant ($100 each)

Likewise, the following employment offer for the American races:
Ralph Hepburn / $50 (July to Nomvember, 1925)
Should Mr. Hepburn refuse, propose this payment as extension of current agreement to Eddie Hearne.
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Re: 1925 AIACR World Championship

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Delage 1925 Entry Plans

Grand Prix de Provence (Thomas/2LCV (1924), Divo/2LCV (1924), Lucigne/2LCV (1923)) $50 + $50 + $50 = $150
Brooklands Trophy (Divo/2LCV (1924) PUSH HARD, Bourlier/2LCV (1923) PUSH HARD)) $100 + $100 = $200
Solituderennen (Thomas/2LCV (1924) PUSH HARD) $100

---START USING 1925 CARS ONLY EXCEPT FOR STERLICH---

Eifelrennen (Thomas/2LCV (1925), Lucigne/2LCV (1925)) $100 + $100 = $200
Grand Prix de Belgique (Thomas/2LCV (1925), Divo/2LCV (1925), Lucigne/2LCV (1925), Bourlier/2LCV (1925), Sterlich/2LCV (1924)) $400
British Grand Prix (Thomas/2LCV (1925) PUSH HARD, Divo/2LCV (1925) PUSH HARD, Lucigne/2LCV (1925), Bourlier/2LCV PUSH HARD(1925), Sterlich/2LCV (1924)) $400
Irish Grand Prix (Divo/2LCV (1925), Bourlier/2LCV (1925)) $100 + $100 = $200
Grand Prix de France (Thomas/2LCV (1925), Divo/2LCV (1925), Lucigne/2LCV (1925), Bourlier/2LCV (1925), Sterlich/2LCV (1924)) $400
Großer Preis von Deutschland (Thomas/2LCV (1925) PUSH HARD, Divo/2LCV (1925) PUSH HARD, Lucigne/2LCV (1925), Bourlier/2LCV PUSH HARD(1925), Sterlich/2LCV (1924)) $400
Ards Trophy (Divo/2LCV (1925), Bourlier/2LCV (1925)) $100 + $100 = $200
Gran Premio d'Italia (Thomas/2LCV (1925), Lucigne/2LCV (1925), Sterlich/2LCV (1924)) $400
Gran Premio do San Sebastián (Thomas/2LCV (1925) PUSH HARD, Divo/2LCV (1925) PUSH HARD, Bourlier/2LCV (1925) PUSH HARD $100 + $100 +$100 = $300
Gran Premio d'España (Thomas/2LCV (1925), Divo/2LCV (1925), Lucigne/2LCV (1925), Bourlier/2LCV (1925), Sterlich/2LCV (1924)) $400


Total Cost: $3850
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Re: 1925 AIACR World Championship

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Can I take Dusenberg?
FIAT Group, finding loopholes in the FIA rulebook since it's inception.
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