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Welcome all to the first ever (I think?) Alt-WRC season here on GP Rejects! This one will be simulated using my purpose-built excel sheet that can handle various surfaces, road conditions and all that jazz.

Championship rules overview
The 1997 season will have championships for two different car categories: WRC for WRC cars and 2-Litre World Cup for Group A Kit Cars.
WRC awards World Championships for both drivers and manufacturers. 2-Litre World Cup is only for the manufacturers with no drivers' title awarded.

Points are awarded for the top-10 finishers on the following system: 20-15-12-10-8-6-4-3-2-1.

WRC teams are required to enter a minimum of two cars for each round of the championship. Teams are free to enter as many cars as they like but can only nominate a maximum of three (3) cars eligible to score manufacturers' championship points. Only the two best placed cars' points will count towards the championship.

2-Litre teams are required to enter a car for a minimum of 10 races of the championship. Teams are free to enter as many cars as they like but can only nominate a maximum of two (2) cars eligible to score manufacturers' championship points.

Manufacturers

WRC

Subaru (kinnikuniverse)
Ford (Miguel98)
Mitsubishi (Klon)
Toyota (Pinkd56)


2-Litre

Škoda (TCBY)
Peugeot (Butterfox)
SEAT (DigitDan7)
Volkswagen (Hermann95)
Ford (Frogfoot9013)
Nissan (girry)
Citroën (Dexter249)
Hyundai (Dom)

Renault
GM Europe
Suzuki


Suzuki are based in Asia & Oceania. All the other manufacturers are based in Europe.

Gameplay
Managers are expected to handle driver signings, rally entries, car development and selling cars to privateer customers.

All the relevant information regarding teams, budgets and available drivers can be found here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

Driver signing and rally entries
Driver signings and rally entries are done primarily at the start of the season but managers will be able to enter rallies and/or sign drivers at any point during the season.

Drivers can be signed for full-time or part-time contracts. Full-time drivers will be paid a yearly salary regardless of the number of races they are entered. Part-time drivers will be paid on a race-by-race basis only for the rounds they are entered. Part-time drivers have no further obligations towards the team and may drive for any number of manufacturers during the season. Preventing a driver from entering rallies with another manufacturer requires a full-time contract. Maximum full-time contract length is 3 years.

WRC teams are guaranteed and required to enter two cars to each round of the championship, free of charge.
Entering an extra car costs 150.000 credits per rally plus a further 35.000 if the rally is on another continent than the team's base.
Part-time drivers can be asked to contribute for the entry costs while offering a contract.

2-Litre teams are required to enter at least one car for a minimum of 10 rounds of the championship. 2-Litre teams have no free entries.
Entering a Kit car costs 50.000 credits per rally plus a further 10.000 if the rally is on another continent than the team's base.
Additional entries on the same rally cost 25.000 credits per car plus a further 5.000 if on another continent.
Part-time drivers can NOT be asked to contribute for the entry costs in the 2-Litre cup.

Driver contracts are possible to terminate by paying a driver double their outstanding salary.

Car development
Car upgrades are done by development tokens. Teams earn tokens every rally based on the results of previous year's constructors' championship standings according to the table below. 2-Litre Cup manufacturers earn a fixed amount of 3 tokens per race.

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Pos.	Tokens/race	Tokens/year
1st	3		42
2nd	3		42
--					
3rd	4		56
4th	4		56
--					
5th	5		70
6th	5		70
--					
7th	6		84
8th	6		84

--
KitCar	3 (fixed)	42
Upgrades
Available upgrades are Power, Handling, Reliability and Setup re-assign. First three upgrades are self-explanatory, increasing the car's performance values. Setup re-assign gives managers the option to re-assign the car's setup points (performance split between tarmac and loose surfaces) by one point in either direction once per season. See the datasheet for further information.

Upgrades and their costs for WRC teams are:
Power = 15 tokens & 2.000.000 cr
Handling = 15 tokens & 2.000.000 cr
Setup points re-assign = 7 tokens & 800.000 cr (available once per season)
Reliability = 9 tokens & 1.200.000 cr
New car = 80 tokens & 10.000.000 cr. Teams may spend as much extra money as they wish for a chance to gain more performance.

Upgrades and their costs for 2-Litre teams are:
Power = 15 tokens & 500.000 cr
Handling = 15 tokens & 500.000 cr
Setup points re-assign = 7 tokens & 200.000 cr (available once per season)
Reliability = 9 tokens & 300.000 cr
New car = 80 tokens & 3.000.000 cr. Teams may spend as much extra money as they wish for a chance to gain more performance.

New car design
Designing a new car chassis requires 80 tokens and money according to the tables above. Teams' current chassis must have been upgraded at least three times before teams are able to design a new car chassis. (not applied for 2L teams who are racing pre-97 cars)
Suggested interval for designing new chassis is once every three years for maximum efficiency.

If teams are short of development tokens, they may buy extra tokens towards building a new car at a price of 150.000 credits/token.

Car market
Teams are able to set the price and sell their WRC and Kit cars to privateer customers.
There is a global demand of around 50 WRC and 75 Kit cars per year. A single manufacturer may sell a maximum of 16 cars per year.
Car market RNG is run quarter-yearly in-game time. Performance in the WRC and asking price affect the RNG probability.

WRC cars have a base value of 300.000 credits.
2-Litre cars have a base value of 60.000 credits.

Selling the cars for profit requires setting the asking price higher than these values.

Prize money and budgeting
Manufacturers' championship prize money table:

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 Pos.	      WRC	 2-Litre
 1st	10.000.000	3.000.000
 2nd	 9.500.000	2.750.000
 3rd	 9.000.000	2.500.000
 4th	 8.500.000	2.400.000
 5th	 8.000.000	2.300.000
 6th	 7.500.000	2.200.000
 7th	 7.000.000	2.100.000
 8th	 6.500.000	2.000.000
 9th	 6.000.000	1.900.000
10th	 5.500.000	1.800.000
11th	 5.000.000	1.700.000
12th	 4.500.000	1.600.000
In WRC manufacturer backing, sponsorship and other deals will provide an annual income of 5.000.000 € to the teams (paid at the start of the season).
In 2-Litre Cup manufacturer backing, sponsorship and other deals will provide an annual income of 500.000 € to the teams (paid at the start of the season).
Manufacturer backing might be reduced if a team has accumulated lots of surplus funds.

Calendar

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Round 	Race			Surface
1 	Monte Carlo Rally	Snow/Tarmac
2 	Rally Sweden		Snow
3 	Safari Rally		Heavy Gravel
=== CAR MARKET ===		
4 	Rally Portugal		Gravel
5 	Rally Catalunya		Tarmac
6 	Tour de Corse		Tarmac
7 	Rally Argentina		Heavy Gravel
=== CAR MARKET ===		
8 	Acropolis Rally		Heavy Gravel
9 	Rally New Zealand	Smooth Gravel
10 	Rally Finland		Smooth Gravel
11 	Rally Indonesia		Gravel
=== CAR MARKET ===		
12 	Rally Sanremo		Tarmac
13 	Rally Australia		Gravel
14 	RAC Rally		Gravel
=== CAR MARKET ===

--- --- ---

So, that's most of the things covered. Feel free to ask any questions and join the vacant teams!

Link to Wiki: https://formularejects.com/wiki/1997_Alt-WRC_season
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Re: Alt-WRC '97

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CLASS PREFERENCE (WRC/2-Litre):
1. WRC
2. 2-Litre

WRC TEAM PREFERENCE

1. Subaru
2. Toyota
3. Ford
4. Mitsubishi


2-Litre Cup TEAM PREFERENCE
1. Renault
2. Volkswagen
3. Opel
4. Ford
5. Citroen
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CLASS PREFERENCE (WRC/2-Litre):
1. 2-Litre
2. WRC

WRC TEAM PREFERENCE
1. Toyota
2. Subaru
3. Ford
4. Mitsubishi

2-Litre Cup TEAM PREFERENCE
1. Škoda
2. Volkswagen
3. Peugeot
4. GM Europe
5. SEAT
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WRC:

Class Preferences:
1: 2L World Cup
2. WRC

WRC Preferences:

1. Ford
2. Subaru
3. Mitsubishi
4. Toyota

2L Preferences:
1. Skoda
2. SEAT
3. Citroen
4. Hyundai
5. GM Europe
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CLASS PREFERENCE (WRC/2-Litre):
1. 2-Litre
2. WRC

WRC TEAM PREFERENCE
1. Ford
2. Subaru
3. Toyota
4. Mitsubishi


2-Litre Cup TEAM PREFERENCE
1. SEAT
2. Ford
3. Volkswagen
4. Nissan
5. Škoda
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CLASS PREFERENCE (WRC/2-Litre):
1. 2 litre
2 WRC

WRC TEAM PREFERENCE
1. Mitsubishi
2.Toyota
3. Subaru
4. Ford

2-Litre Cup TEAM PREFERENCE
1. Peugeot
2. Citroën
3. Renault
4. Hyundai
5. Nissan
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I have vowed not to join anybody else's games to save my time but here I will make an exception because muh WRC

Class preference
1) 2-Litre
2) WRC

WRC team preference
1) Mitsu
2) Subaru
3) Toyota
4) Ford

2-Litre Cup team preference (EDITED)
1) Nissan
2) Suzuki
3) Hyundai
4) Skoda
5) Renault
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Is it possible to enter as a privateer instead of running a manufacturer team?

If not, here are my preferences for a manufacturer:

CLASS PREFERENCE (WRC/2-Litre):
1. 2-Litre
2. WRC

WRC TEAM PREFERENCE
1. Subaru
2. Ford
3. Toyota
4. Mitsubishi

2-Litre Cup TEAM PREFERENCE
1. SEAT
2. Ford
3. Hyundai
4. Suzuki
5. Nissan
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Frogfoot9013 wrote: 16 May 2022, 22:03 Is it possible to enter as a privateer instead of running a manufacturer team?
Not possible at this time, sorry. It's something for the future but for this "proof of concept" run I prefer to keep things relatively simple for my admin.

As a side note, should have known you clowns flock the 2-Litre cup instead of the proper World Championship :pantano:
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CarloSpace wrote: 17 May 2022, 04:33 As a side note, should have known you clowns flock the 2-Litre cup instead of the proper World Championship :pantano:
Did you really expect anything less? :P
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CLASS PREFERENCE (WRC/2-Litre):
1. WRC
2. 2-Litre

WRC TEAM PREFERENCE
1. Subaru
2. Ford
3. Mitsubishi
4. Toyota

2-Litre Cup TEAM PREFERENCE
1. Nissan
2. SEAT
3. Skoda
4. Renault
5. Suzuki
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Manufacturer RNG's have been run on Discord this morning. The results are as follows:

WRC
Subaru - Kinnikuniverse
Ford - Miguel98

2-Litre
Volkswagen - Hermann95
Škoda - TCBY
SEAT - DigitDan7
Peugeot - Butterfox
Nissan - Girry
Ford - Frogfoot9013
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Next we'll begin the driver bidding and rally entry process.

Late 90's was rather crazy in terms of driver rotation and all so there are basically no limits on how many drivers and for which rallies you may enter them.

All the relevant info regarding your teams, driver requirements (some 2-litre teams) and notable available drivers are found in this sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

The drivers' expected salary is the salary they expect from a full-time season. Some of them might be open to taking a pay cut from 2-Litre World Cup teams if no WRC seat is available. You are of course allowed to go as much over or under their expected salary as you like in your bids.

Part-time salaries are done on a per race basis so please indicate the per race compensation and the specific rallies you are offering for part-time drivers.

More info about rally calendar, contracts and rally entries is found on the first post of this thread. Remember that WRC teams are expected to field two cars for each round of the championsip. Any extra car comes with a cost of 150.000 cr/rally. 2-Litre Cup teams are expected to field at least 1 car for a minimum 10 rounds of the championship with every rally costing at least 50.000 cr/car.

Template:

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Team:

Car #1 (driver - full-time/part-time - contract length [full-time only] - salary - rallies offered)
1. 
2. 
3. 
...
 
Car #2
1. 
2. 
3. 
...

Car #3
1. 
2. 
3. 
...
Example bid: (You can go even wilder with the conditionals if you wish)
Team: Mini WRC

Car #1 (driver - full-time/part-time - salary - rallies offered)
1. Kris Meeke - full-time - 3 years - 2.500.000 - all
2. P-G Andersson - full-time - 1 year - 1.000.000 - all
3. Dani Sordo - full-time - 3 years - 2.250.000 - all -
4. Juho Hänninen - full-time - 2 years - 1.200.000 - all

Car #2
1. P-G Andersson - full-time - 1 year - 800.000 - all
2. Dani Sordo - part-time - 150.000/rally - 1, 3-8, 11-12
3. Juho Hänninen - full-time - 2 years - 1.000.000 - 2, 9-10, 13-14 (all if Sordo is not signed
4. Jarkko Nikara - full-time - 1 year - 200.000 - 2, 9-10, 13-14 (all if Sordo is not signed

Car #3
1. If Sordo is signed to car #2, Hänninen/Nikara will do rallies 1, 3-8, 11-12
2. Juho Hänninen - part-time - 75.000/rally - 2, 9-10, 14
3. Jarkko Nikara - part-time - 20.000/rally - 2, 10
4. Martin Prokop - part-time - 35.000/rally - 3-4, 11
5. Eric Camilli - part-time - 20.000/rally - 1, 5-6, 12

Car #4
1. Jourdan Serderidis - part-time - ask to contribute at least 100.000 - 8
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CLASS PREFERENCE (WRC/2-Litre):
1. WRC
2. 2.0l

WRC TEAM PREFERENCE
1. Toyota
2. Mistubishi


2-Litre Cup TEAM PREFERENCE
1. Citroen
2. GM Europe
3. Suzuki
4. Renault
5. Hyundai
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Team: Peugeot

Car #1 (driver - full-time/part-time - salary - rallies offered)
1. François Delecour 200 000 full-time - 3 years
2.Philippe Bugalski 200 000 full-time - 3 years
3. Gilles Panizzi 200 000 full-time -3 years
4 Patrick Bernardini 50 000 full-time - 1 year


Car #2
1. Gilles Panizzi 100 000 Tarmac only - 3 years
1 Marcus Gronholm 100 000 (gravel only) - 3 years
2.Philippe bugalski 100 000 - tarmac only - 3 years
2 Freddy Loix 100 000 gravel only - 3 years
3. Patrick Bernardini 50 000 - tarmac only - 1 year
3 Grégoire De Mévius 50 000 gravel only - 1 year


Car #3
2. Jesus Puras 50 000 - tarmac only - 2 years
3. Adruzilo Lopes 50 000 - tarmac only - 2 years
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I will take control of Mitsubishi.

Team: Team Mitsubishi Ralliart

Car #1 (driver - full-time/part-time - salary - rallies offered)
1. Tommi Mäkinen (full time, 3 years, 3,800,000 cr)
2. Carlos Sainz (full time, 1 year, 3,300,000 cr)
3. Didier Auriol (full time, 2 years, 2,200,000 cr)

Car #2
1. Carlos Sainz (full time, 1 year, 3,300,000 cr)
2. Didier Auriol (full time, 2 years, 2,200,000 cr)
3. Kenjiro Shinozuka (full time, 2 years, 150,000 cr)
4. Wayne Muckle (part-time, 4,000 cr per entry, 1 if Shinozuka signs for Car #2)

Car #3
1. Kenjiro Shinozuka (part time, 9,000 cr per entry, 3-6, 11-14)
2. Minna Sillankorva (part time, 9,000 cr per entry, 1-2, 7-10)
3. Thomas Rådström (part time, 9,000 cr per entry, 3-6, 11-14 if Shinozuka does not sign)

Car #4
1. Thomas Rådström (part time, 4,000 cr per entry, 2)
2. Wayne Muckle (part time, 4,000 cr per entry, 9)
3. Bambang Hartono (part time, 4,000 cr per entry, 11)
4. Piergiorgio Bedini (part time, 4,000 cr per entry, 12)
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Team: Subaru 555 World Rally Team

Car #1 (driver - full-time/part-time - salary - rallies offered)

1. Colin McRae ( full time- $4 million-all)- 3 years
2. Carlos Sainz (Full time-base price-all)- 2 years
3. Juha Kankunen (Full time)-base price-all)

Car #2

1. Richard Burns (Full time-$1,4 million-all)- 3 years
2. Ari Vatanen (Full time-base price-all)
3. Francois Delecour (Full time-base price-all) -2 years

Car #3

1. Markus Gronholm (Part-Time-base price-Sweden, Finland)
1B. Petter Solberg (Part-time-Minimum Wage, Sweden)
1C. Ari Vatanen (Part-time, Base price, Finland, should Richard Burns sign)
1D. Jarmo Kytholeto (part-time, base price, Finland, should we fail to get burns or vatanen)
2. Alistair McRae (Part-Time-base price-RAC)
3. Franco Cunico (Part-time-base price-portugal, catalunya, sanremo)
4. Patrick Bernardini (Part-Time-base price-Tour de corse, Monte Carlo)
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ONE NOTE FOR ALL regarding driver bidding:
I forgot to mention that offered full-time contracts can be 1-3 years long. By default I will consider the offers to be 1 year only.

After the initial driver bidding before season you will be able to sign drivers all through the season.
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Car #1 (driver - full-time/part-time - salary - rallies offered)
1. Harri Rovanperä - full-time - 3 years - 300.000 - all
2. Freddy Loix - full-time - 3 years - 300.000 - all
3. Mark Higgins - full-time - 3 years - 300.000 - all

Car #2
1. Freddy Loix - full time - 2 years - 300.000 - all European rounds (only if Rovanperä is signed)
2. Patrick Snijers - full-time - 1 year - 100.000 - all European rounds
3. Martin Rowe - full-time - 1 year - 100.000 - all European rounds
4. Toni Gardemeister - full-time - 4 years - 100.000 - all European rounds

Car #3 (each offer 10.000 for a single round; order of preference)
R1. Jean Ragnotti / Olivier Burri
R2. Mats Jonsson
R3. Ian Duncan
R4. Rui Madeira
R5. Jesus Puras
R6. Bruno Saby / Francois Chatriot / Yves Loubet
R7. Jorge Recalde
R8. Mohammed ben Sulayem
R9. Possum Bourne
R10. Markku Alén / Jarmo Kytölehto / Teemu Selänne
R11. Karamjit Singh
R12. Miki Biasion / Andrea Dallavilla
R13. Ed Ordynski
R14. (Higgins / Rowe) / Tapio Laukkanen
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Team: SEAT Sport
All bids are in order of preference.

Car #1
Oriol Gómez (full-time, 200.000cr, 1 year, all rallies)
Jesús Puras (full-time, 200.000cr, 1 year, all rallies)
Antonio Rius (full-time, 200.000cr, 1 year, all rallies)

Car #2
Harri Rovanperä (full-time, 200.000cr, 1 year, all rallies)
Erwin Weber (full-time, 250.000cr, 1 year, all rallies)
Barbara Armstrong (full-time, 200.000cr, 1 year, all rallies)

Car #3
Carles Solé (part-time, 15.000cr/rally, Catalunya)
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Team: Toyota Castrol Team
All bids are in order of preference.

Car #1
Didier Auriol (full time, 2 years, 2,700,000 cr)
Kenneth Eriksson (full-time, base, 1 year, all rallies)
Freddy Loix (full-time, base, 1 year, all rallies)

Car #2
Juha Kankkunen (full time, 1 year, 2,000,000 cr)
Kenneth Eriksson (full-time, base, 1 year, all rallies)
Bruno Thiry (full-time, base, 1 year, all rallies)
Freddy Loix (full-time, base, 1 year, all rallies)

Car #3
Freddy Loix (part time, base, Monte Carlo initially)
Armin Schwarz (part time, base, Monte Carlo initially)
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Team: Skoda Motorsport

Driver 1: (14500cr per round, all rounds bar Safari):
1. Pavel Sibera
2. Emil Triner

Driver 2: (part time, all 14000cr per round unless stated otherwise)
1. Paolo Andreucci (Rds 1, 5-6, 12, 15000cr)
1b. Uwe Nittel (Rds 1, 5-6, 12)
2. Stig Blomqvist (Rds 2-3, 14, 22000cr)
3. Ari Mokkonen (Rds 4, 9-10)
3b. Tapio Laukkanen (Rds 4, 9-10)
4. Emil Triner (Rds 7-8, if not Driver 1)
4b. Gabriel Raies (Rd. 7, 10000cr, if Triner not signed)
5. Manfred Stohl (Rd. 8, if Triner not signed)

Driver 3: (part time, 11000cr per round unless stated otherwise)
1. Emil Triner (Rds 1, 14000cr)
2. Toni Gardemeister (Rds 2, 10)
3. Flavio Alonso (Rds 4, 5)
5. David Higgins (Rd 14)
5b. Justin Dale (Rd 14)
5c. Neil Simpson (Rd 14)
5d. Neil Wearden (Rd 14)

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Re: Alt-WRC '97

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I will be taking Control of Le Baguette Dominant, well not yet.
Team: Citroen

Car #1 Full Time
1. Gilles Panizzi ($400k, 3 years)
2. Phillipe Bugalski ($275k, 3 years)
3. Francois Delecour ($750k, 3 years)
...

Car #2 Full Time
1. Jesus Puras ($250k, 3 years)
2. Francois Delecour ($750k, 3 years) (if does not get first seat)
3. Phillipe Bugalski ($275k, 3 years) (if he does not get the first seat, and Delecour goes to Peugeot.)
...

Car #3 Part Time
1. Jaime Azcona - Spain ($10k)
2. Fabien Doenlen - France ($10k)
3. Ian Duncan - Safari ($25k)
4. Gwyndaf Evans - RAC ($35k)
5. Adrizulo Lopes - Portugal ($10k)
6. Patrick Maguad - Corsica ($10k)
7. Jorge Recalde - Argentina ($15k)
8. Armodios Vorvos - Acropolis ($10k)
9. Tapio Laukkanen - 1000 Lakes ($20k)
10. Tony Hardianto - Indonesia ($10k)
11. Corrado Fantana - Italy ($15k)
12. Challis Tolley - Australia ($10k)

Saxo will be only used for the third car.
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Re: Alt-WRC '97

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Team: Ford

Car #1 (driver - full-time/part-time - contract length [full-time only] - salary - rallies offered)
1. Carlos Sainz - full-time (3.750.000, 2 years, all)
2. Didier Auriol - full-time (3.000.000, 1 year, all)
3. Juha Kankunnen - full-time (3.000.000, 1 year)
...

Car #2
1. Richard Burns - full-time (1.250.000, 3 years, all)
2. Freddy Loix - full-time (1.250.000, 2 years, all)
3. Kenneth Eriksson - full-time (1.000.000, 1 year, all)
...

Car #3
Choices for the asphalt rounds:
1. Philippe Bugalski - asphalt rounds (600k, 1 year)
2. Jesus Puras - asphalt rounds (600k, 1 year)
3. Gilles Panizzi - aspahalt rounds (500k, 1 year)

Choices for the remaining rounds:
1. Marcus Grönholm - remaining rounds (400k, 1 year)
2. Freddy Loix - remaining rounds (400k, 1 year)
3. Angelo Medeghini - remaining rounds (250k, 1 year)
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Re: Alt-WRC '97

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I'm happy with everyone's bids so far. Remaining teams (VW and Ford's 2L team) have until tomorrow 21:00 EEST to post their bids.

Also, sorry about the confusion but I have removed Saxo from Citroën's development plans since it's a 1.6 Kit Car for group A6 and thus will not be an upgrade over Citroën's ZX. Sorry for any confusion Dexter!
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Re: Alt-WRC '97

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Edited my bids, decided to take the risk to underpay drivers. For what is still a good tarmac car!
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Re: Alt-WRC '97

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Volkswagen driver bids:

All cars will be entered for the following rounds:
1-4, 7-11 and 13-14 (all non Tarmac rounds)

Car 1 (sign the highest one to accept):
Marcus Grönholm (Full-Time, 250k, 1 year)
Freddy Loix (Full-Time, 250k, 1 year)
Harri Rovanperä (Full-Time, 200k, 1 year)
Erwin Weber (Full-Time, 250k, 1 year)
if none of the above drivers signs, offer the seat to the highest none accepting driver from car 2

Car 2:
Manfred Stohl (Full-Time, 100k, 3 years)
Toni Gardemeister (Full-Time, 100k, 3 years)
Uwe Nittel (Full-Time, 100k, 2 years)
Raphael Sperrer (Full-Time, 100k, 1 years)
Achim Mörtl (Full-Time, 100k, 1 years)
Kris Rosenberger (Full-Time, 100k, 1 years)

Car 3:
Reimund Baumschlager (Full-Time, 100k, 3 years)
Toni Gardemeister (Full-Time, 100k, 3 years if not in car 2)
Uwe Nittel (Full-Time, 100k, 2 years if not in car 2)
Raphael Sperrer (Full-Time, 100k, 1 years if not in car 2)
Achim Mörtl (Full-Time, 100k, 1 years if not in car 2)
Kris Rosenberger (Full-Time, 100k, 1 years if not in car 2)

if any car remains without a driver, scrap that entry
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Re: Alt-WRC '97

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Sorry about the delay

Team: Ford (2-litre)

Car #1 (full-time)
1. Gwyndaf Evans (250k, 2 years)

Car #2 (Safari, Catalunya, Corsica, Indonesia, RAC)
1. Jonathan Toroitich (gib mone, Safari only)
1. David Higgins (4k per rally, Catalunya, Corsica, RAC)
2. Tommy Suharto (gib mone, Indonesia only)
...

Car #3 (RAC only)
1. Stephen Finlay (4k, RAC rally)
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Re: Alt-WRC '97

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Bids closed. RNG's will follow up.
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Re: Alt-WRC '97

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A bit early , but i need sleep when returning to work after almost 2 months sick leave.

First car bids:

monte carlo bids
Yvan Muller 10k per race 1-race deal
Jean Chatriot 10k per race 3year contract, free to do other rallies
Simon Jean-Joseph 10k per race 3year contract, free to do other rallies
Benoît Rousselot 1k per race 1 year contract, free to do other rallies
Nicholas Latil 1 year contract, free to do other rallies
Fréderic Dor 1k per race 1 year contract, free to do other rallies

corsica bids
Stéphane Peterhansel 10k per race 1-race deal
Pierre Lartigue 10k per race 1-race deal
Simon Jean-Joseph 10k per race 3year contract, free to do other rallies
Benoît Rousselot 1 year contract, free to do other rallies
Nicholas Latil 1 year contract, free to do other rallies
Fréderic Dor 1 year contract, free to do other rallies

Third car bids
Monte Carlo, Corsica, San Remo, Catalunya
Bruno Thiry 30k per race 3year contract, free to do other rallies
Simon Jean-Joseph 10k per race 3year contract
the events Jean-Joseph didn't sign for already
Jean pierre van de wauwer 0K per race 1 year contract, free to do other rallies
Bernard Munster 1K per race 1 year contract, free to do other rallies
Kris Princen 1K per race 1 year contract, free to do other rallies
Marc Duéz 1K per race 1 year contract, free to do other rallies


also my first and second car will not be entering argentina, safari and acropolis.
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Re: Alt-WRC '97

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Team: Subaru 555 world Rally Team

4th Car for RAC rally:

-Jimmy Mcrae (Part-time, $8,000, RAC) - giving this legend the chance of a lifetime to race alongside his sons on a championship-level car at home in an official WRC event.
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Re: Alt-WRC '97

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Skoda will make additional bids for our third car for Sweden and Finland due to the failure to secure Gardemeister, all with a 11000cr per round wage

1. Olli Harkki
2. Jouko Puhakka
3. Juha Kangas
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Re: Alt-WRC '97

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DRIVER RNG'S HAVE BEEN RUN
The RNG process can be found on Discord's #rejectsport-market channel for the curious. I will not be pasting it all here but you can find the end results here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =321095497

Budgets and everything has been updated accordingly.
Managers are responsible to check for any errors in the rally entries and budgets. There are simply so many things to keep track of that mistakes are bound to happen so please check before each rally that your team's entries look fine.

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WHAT'S NEXT?

Driver market is open again so you can bid for drivers for your missing seats, extra cars or whatever. This is an ongoing process and driver RNG's will be run just before each rally (if there are any bids in between rallies).

Car development can be done at any point during the season. Please refer to the first post of this thread for more information and costs of different upgrades. Your development token tally can be found on the sheet. Please note that if you already have a car in development, it is not advised to buy any upgrades to your existing cars (Toyota, Škoda, Nissan).
Other teams may build new cars by accumulating enough money and development tokens (car will be ready immediately).

Car market is approaching. Manufacturers will be able to sell cars to privateers four quarter-yearly, with the first market period coming up after Safari Rally.

Please post the asking price of your car if you wish to sell cars to privateers.
WRC cars have a base value of 300.000 credits.
2-Litre cars have a base value of 60.000 credits.
Any asking price below these numbers will incur losses for the team.

Failure to post asking price before first car market will result with in no cars sold.

Please nominate your points scoring drivers for each rally if you have more than three (WRC) or two (2L) drivers entered.
WRC teams can nominate three drivers while 2-Litre teams may nominate two drivers to collect manufacturers' championship points in each rally.

Failure to nominate drivers will result in the top-2 drivers of this sheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =321095497) to be nominated by default.


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Deadline for Rallye Monte Carlo entries is Friday 20:00 EEST. You can follow Rallye Monte Carlo live on Discord on Friday evening.
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Re: Alt-WRC '97

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Butterfox wrote: 06 Jun 2022, 23:53 ...
Jean Chatriot 10k per race 3year contract, free to do other rallies
Simon Jean-Joseph 10k per race 3year contract, free to do other rallies
Benoît Rousselot 1k per race 1 year contract, free to do other rallies
Nicholas Latil 1 year contract, free to do other rallies
Fréderic Dor 1k per race 1 year contract, free to do other rallies

corsica bids
Stéphane Peterhansel 10k per race 1-race deal
Pierre Lartigue 10k per race 1-race deal
Simon Jean-Joseph 10k per race 3year contract, free to do other rallies
Benoît Rousselot 1 year contract, free to do other rallies
Nicholas Latil 1 year contract, free to do other rallies
Fréderic Dor 1 year contract, free to do other rallies

Third car bids
Monte Carlo, Corsica, San Remo, Catalunya
Bruno Thiry 30k per race 3year contract, free to do other rallies
Simon Jean-Joseph 10k per race 3year contract
the events Jean-Joseph didn't sign for already
Jean pierre van de wauwer 0K per race 1 year contract, free to do other rallies
Bernard Munster 1K per race 1 year contract, free to do other rallies
Kris Princen 1K per race 1 year contract, free to do other rallies
Marc Duéz 1K per race 1 year contract, free to do other rallies


also my first and second car will not be entering argentina, safari and acropolis.
You can not offer multi-year or even a season long deal on a per race part-time basis. You have to offer the drivers full-time deals with full-time salary for the year (or years) if you want to ensure retaining them after their one-off appearances. I assume you are intending to offer them part-time offers for the specific rallies so in that case you don't have to indicate the length of the contract because it's automatically just for those rallies.

Full-time offers mean the driver won't be able to driver for other marks without your permission while part-time offers mean they are free to do other rallies.

Multi-year contracts however require yearly salary any case.

Also, de Mevius and Bernardini are not happy that you are cutting their schedule just a day after they signed with your team.

Bernardini
1-75 Doesn't care since he never was keen to race on heavy gravel anyway
76-100 Demands to be entered for the agreed rounds
63! Bernardini accepts the schedule cuts.

de Mevius
1-50 Is okay with the new schedule
51-80 Demands at least Acropolis
81-100 Demands full agreed schedule
82! de Mevius is fuming and demands entries for the agreed upon rounds.

As per Discord discussion, de Mevius is offered a third car in the tarmac rounds which he is happy to accept.
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Re: Alt-WRC '97

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Subaru will sell their customer imprezas on the car market for the price of $400,000

Confirmed entries for Rally Monte Carlo:

-#3 Colin McRae (GBR)

-#4 Richard Burns (GBR)

#8 Patrick Bernardini (FRA)

Also, what happened to our bid for jimmy McRae for a 4th car at RAC?
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Re: Alt-WRC '97

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Kinnikuniverse wrote: 07 Jun 2022, 10:12 Subaru will sell their customer imprezas on the car market for the price of $400,000

Confirmed entries for Rally Monte Carlo:

-#3 Colin McRae (GBR)

-#4 Richard Burns (GBR)

#8 Patrick Bernardini (FRA)

Also, what happened to our bid for jimmy McRae for a 4th car at RAC?
...This is an ongoing process and driver RNG's will be run just before each rally (if there are any bids in between rallies)...

Like I said yesterday on Discord, this was the pre-season driver bidding. From now they will be done just before each rally so easy there.

Thanks for nominating the drivers but it is only necessary if you have more than three drivers entered for a rally :)
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Re: Alt-WRC '97

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Team: Subaru 555 World Rally Team

3rd car for sweden

- Thomas Ràdström (Part-time, $21,000, Sweden)
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Re: Alt-WRC '97

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As per feedback, here's the edited offers
Monte Carlo bids:
Jean Chatriot 10k, one race contract. Being a former Andros winner, we think his experience on ice would serve us well in Monte Carlo.
Simon Jean-Joseph 50k per year on a 3 year contract to be our junior driver, entering him in rallys left,right and centre where there's budget. Will also be Peugeot's official reserve and test driver. We hope the tourist office from Martinique will help us out in convincing him.
Benoît Rousselot 1k, one race contract
Nicholas Latil 1k, one race contract
Fréderic Dor 1k, one race contract


corsica bids
Simon Jean-Joseph - same conditions as monte carlo obviously
Benoît Rousselot 1k, one race contract
Nicholas Latil 1k, one race contract
Fréderic Dor 1k, one race contract

If there is budget, Lopes may also enter his home rally in Portugal but that is TBA
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Re: Alt-WRC '97

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Driver RNG's run on Discord and sheet updated accordingly. We will soon go live with Rally Monte Carlo on Discord.

Entry list for Rallye Monte Carlo 1997


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Re: Alt-WRC '97

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McRae leads Subaru 1-2 in Monte Carlo

Colin McRae wins the 1997 Rallye Monte Carlo after overcoming early mechanical issues which saw him drop down to 14th after SS4. The Subaru driver put up a monster comeback drive to force rally leading Carlos Sainz into a driving error on stage 15 of 18. The Spaniard crashed his Escort WRC against a guardrail and was forced to retire. Richard Burns is second completed the Subaru 1-2.

In the 2-Litre World Cup Citroën's Gilles Panizzi was the early pace-setter as he was as high as 3rd overall after six stages with over one and a half minute on hand over second in class Jesús Puras. Mechanical issues on stage 7 and furthermore on stage 11 dropped the Frenchman back but he was able to climb to third in class. Peugeot's one-off specialist François Chatriot inherited the lead after stage 11 but mechanical issues costing him almost seven minutes on stage 16 dropped him down the order. Thus, it was Nissan's Harri Rovanperä who came out on top in the 2-Litre World Cup class to take a narrow victory over Peugeot's Adruzilo Lopes.


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Reminders of things expected of the managers:

Please post the price of your cars if you wish to sell cars to privateers.
WRC cars have a base value of 300.000 credits.
2-Litre cars have a base value of 60.000 credits.
Any asking price below these numbers will incur losses for the team.

Failure to post asking price before first car market will result with in no cars sold.

Please nominate your points scoring drivers for each rally if you have more than three (WRC) or two (2L) drivers entered.
WRC teams can nominate three drivers while 2-Litre teams may nominate two drivers to collect manufacturers' championship points in each rally.

Failure to nominate drivers will result in the top-2 drivers of this sheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =321095497) to be nominated by default.

Rally Sweden will hopefully be run next week.
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