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madcat wrote:Image

Oops, how about the driver? Er, stick him next to the car.... I like the front bumper best!


What in the name of all the gods of good taste is that thing? :lol: And what's with the hands?

coops, here you go:

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What those were for will forever puzzle me...
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They were for better aerodynamics and I think more downforce, in early 1998 more than half the field had those wings before the FIA banned them, simply because of their ugliness. Not sure how much good it was anyway, Alesi drove most of race with only one of those side wings (Buenos Aires???) and he finished in the points.
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CarlosFerreira wrote:coops, here you go:
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What those were for will forever puzzle me...

Actually, Ive just discovered that if you put blu-tack on your PC monitor over those X-wings then the car, in that picture, looks pretty nippy.
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Debaser wrote:They were for better aerodynamics and I think more downforce, in early 1998 more than half the field had those wings before the FIA banned them, simply because of their ugliness. Not sure how much good it was anyway, Alesi drove most of race with only one of those side wings (Buenos Aires???) and he finished in the points.


Oh, I agree they were probably for downforce. Partly they were banned for security reasons - a bit of shelving and refuelling hoses don't get along that well - but surely they brought little or no advantage when placed in that point, and the drag must have been simply horrendous.
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I seem to remember Ferrari building some of their own...........just in time for the ban to come into effect.
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But apart from that, this Tyrrell is far from ugly. (And it's sponsored by Paul Stoddart's "European" Aviation)
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Am I the only one who thinks 1983-1984 cars were horrible?
Some samples:
-Ferrari 126 C2B/C3
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-Williams FW09
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-Toleman TG183B/TG184
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-Ligier JS21
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-Spirit 201 (the first Honda turbo F1 car)
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...and I ommited some of them from 1984 that were equally ugly...
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Debaser wrote:They were for better aerodynamics and I think more downforce, in early 1998 more than half the field had those wings before the FIA banned them, simply because of their ugliness. Not sure how much good it was anyway, Alesi drove most of race with only one of those side wings (Buenos Aires???) and he finished in the points.


Alesi ended up with one because the other one was taken off by the air jack tubes dangling from the garage belonging to the team in front of them in the pit lane, which is also why the X-Wing was abolished.
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Phoenix wrote:Am I the only one who thinks 1983-1984 cars were horrible?


They were ugly due to the complete overhaul of the rules, 1982 was the last year of ground effect, therefore the teams had to make up for the lack of downforce by other means, case-in-point the massive rear wings, in 1982 the rear wings were very T shaped, with only one support strut, to try and keep the rear wing on the cars in 83, those side supports creating a second and third pillar linking them to the rear of each sidepod (1996-1997 anyone??) by 1985 they found better ways to control downforce and therefore removal of the sidewings.

Watching the 84 season cars, on the BBC's red button archive leading up to the grands prix of 2009, they looked like absolute beasts to me, and Murray Walker no less reminded us on his portion of the red button coverage, that the cars were producing twice the amount of power that F1 cars do today, no wonder they had to have huge wings.

I can understand your opinion Phoenix, but between 82-85 there was not a grand prix in Spain..... coincidence?? :P
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ADx_Wales wrote:
Phoenix wrote:Am I the only one who thinks 1983-1984 cars were horrible?


They were ugly due to the complete overhaul of the rules, 1982 was the last year of ground effect, therefore the teams had to make up for the lack of downforce by other means, case-in-point the massive rear wings, in 1982 the rear wings were very T shaped, with only one support strut, to try and keep the rear wing on the cars in 83, those side supports creating a second and third pillar linking them to the rear of each sidepod (1996-1997 anyone??) by 1985 they found better ways to control downforce and therefore removal of the sidewings.

Watching the 84 season cars, on the BBC's red button archive leading up to the grands prix of 2009, they looked like absolute beasts to me, and Murray Walker no less reminded us on his portion of the red button coverage, that the cars were producing twice the amount of power that F1 cars do today, no wonder they had to have huge wings.

I can understand your opinion Phoenix, but between 82-85 there was not a grand prix in Spain..... coincidence?? :P

First, I try not to be biased, OK? And second, I understand they had to do that, but that cars are ugly nonetheless :lol: Shocking comparing the ultra sleek 1978-1982 designs.
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Quite a few cars from 1983 and 1984 were indeed ugly, but the period also gave us the gorgeous Brabham BT52... :D

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midgrid wrote:Quite a few cars from 1983 and 1984 were indeed ugly, but the period also gave us the gorgeous Brabham BT52... :D

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The Renault RE40 and the Lotus 94T were also decent in terms of design.
I always thought this car was shaped like a penis :lol:
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Some more X-Wings from 1998:
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Speaking of 1983, and the opposite of Ugly...

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I dare anyone to suggest that there was a bad Benetton livery. They were all gorgeous.
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Phoenix wrote:I always thought this car was shaped like a penis :lol:


Not meaning to dwell on that comment too much, but you must have a very oddly shaped ding-a-ling.
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shinji wrote:
Phoenix wrote:I always thought this car was shaped like a penis :lol:


Not meaning to dwell on that comment too much, but you must have a very oddly shaped ding-a-ling.

Of course it's not an exact form, but it does bear some kind of resembleance.
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ADx_Wales wrote:Speaking of 1983, and the opposite of Ugly...

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I dare anyone to suggest that there was a bad Benetton livery. They were all gorgeous.

Simple but effective.
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midgrid wrote:Some more X-Wings from 1998:
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This image is simply astonishing. Truly weakening on the knees.
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ADx_Wales wrote:Speaking of 1983, and the opposite of Ugly...

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I dare anyone to suggest that there was a bad Benetton livery. They were all gorgeous.


Very F3-esque at the front.

As for the Brabham BT52, I must be the only person who thinks they are ugly. It just looks weird with the sidepods so far back.

Now these are proper Brabhams:
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shinji wrote:
Phoenix wrote:I always thought this car was shaped like a penis :lol:


Not meaning to dwell on that comment too much, but you must have a very oddly shaped ding-a-ling.


Hey, but he gets great downforce.
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thehemogoblin wrote:
shinji wrote:
Phoenix wrote:I always thought this car was shaped like a penis :lol:


Not meaning to dwell on that comment too much, but you must have a very oddly shaped ding-a-ling.


Hey, but he gets great downforce.

As I said, it was only an approximate comparison.
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CarlosFerreira wrote:
midgrid wrote:Some more X-Wings from 1998:
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This image is simply astonishing. Truly weakening on the knees.

That is so going to be my new desktop background
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Wizzie wrote:
CarlosFerreira wrote:
midgrid wrote:Some more X-Wings from 1998:
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This image is simply astonishing. Truly weakening on the knees.

That is so going to be my new desktop background


Already was mine :D

Looks epic.
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Brabham BT52 is to me the best looking car ever.

This might sound weird but the Williams FW15C.
The FW14B was better looking and faster.
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The Life debacle- the First F189 car is just so ugly slow and dangous that I think that it the worse car ever!!!
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TeamTipper wrote:This might sound weird but the Williams FW15C.
The FW14B was better looking and faster.

I feel really embarrassed about this because the era those two Williamses existed in was my favorite era of F1, especially techwise, but I can't really tell the difference between the two appearance-wise...
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Reverie Planetarian wrote:
TeamTipper wrote:This might sound weird but the Williams FW15C.
The FW14B was better looking and faster.

I feel really embarrassed about this because the era those two Williamses existed in was my favorite era of F1, especially techwise, but I can't really tell the difference between the two appearance-wise...


The only thing I can tell between the two is the 1993 car has a blue hedghog on it
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gnrpoison wrote:
Reverie Planetarian wrote:
TeamTipper wrote:This might sound weird but the Williams FW15C.
The FW14B was better looking and faster.

I feel really embarrassed about this because the era those two Williamses existed in was my favorite era of F1, especially techwise, but I can't really tell the difference between the two appearance-wise...


The only thing I can tell between the two is the 1993 car has a blue hedghog on it


Yes, Williams was sponsored by Sega in 1993 and Sonic's legs featured on the side of the cockpit. The winner of the European GP at Donington also received a trophy of Sonic holding a smaller trophy.

Another easy-to-spot difference between the two Williams chassis is that the tyre regulations changed for 1993. The FW15C thus has noticeably narrower rear tyres than the FW14B.
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An easy way to tell the FW14B and the FW15C apart (from the front) is the protuberances over the front suspension on the FW14B. That was because of the conversion of the conventional suspension of the FW14 to the active suspension of the FW14B.
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That's the car that was raced up until very recently in the Thoroughbred Grand Prix championship by Mauro Pane. It's a different chassis from the one that Martin Stretton raced.
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Surely, beyond any doubt, THIS is the UGLIEST of all Non-Reject Car Designs within this forum.

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If I wanted to see Jet-Shaped things I'd watch Top Gun

This is the monstrousity made by Delta Wing, who probably belong in the aerospace industry, not the motorsport industry.

If it does hit the tracks, its going to hit the outside wall trying to take the same turning circle as the planet earth.
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It is incredibly ugly and will work even worse on road tracks than on ovals (I would assume, at least).
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Looks bloody dangerous too - imagine side on t-bone impacts...
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ADx_Wales wrote:Surely, beyond any doubt, THIS is the UGLIEST of all Non-Reject Car Designs within this forum.

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If I wanted to see Jet-Shaped things I'd watch Top Gun

This is the monstrousity made by Delta Wing, who probably belong in the aerospace industry, not the motorsport industry.

If it does hit the tracks, its going to hit the outside wall trying to take the same turning circle as the planet earth.

One of the basis of the contest was to design a car that could run equally well both on ovals and conventional circuits. I don't see this running on a conventional circuit, but it may work on ovals. It's strangely nice for me as well.
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Phoenix wrote:
ADx_Wales wrote:Surely, beyond any doubt, THIS is the UGLIEST of all Non-Reject Car Designs within this forum.

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If I wanted to see Jet-Shaped things I'd watch Top Gun

This is the monstrousity made by Delta Wing, who probably belong in the aerospace industry, not the motorsport industry.

If it does hit the tracks, its going to hit the outside wall trying to take the same turning circle as the planet earth.

One of the basis of the contest was to design a car that could run equally well both on ovals and conventional circuits. I don't see this running on a conventional circuit, but it may work on ovals. It's strangely nice for me as well.


It would definitely work on ovals, but I wouldn't want to take one on a circuit.

Odd, this car looks more presentable from different angles. I guess angles that downplay its length and the fact it looks like an unfortunate crossbreeding between the Bloodhound SSC and the Mercedes-Renard '94 car...


...and for anyone who said the BT52 was phallic, get an awful eyeful of the Delta Indycar concept from THIS angle!
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Reverie Planetarian wrote:...and for anyone who said the BT52 was phallic, get an awful eyeful of the Delta Indycar concept from THIS angle!

Yes, I said the Brabham BT52 (and the BT53) was phallic, and, well, this is quite evil-shaped as well :lol:
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i never liked this one!

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Caleb86 wrote:Image

i never liked this one!

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is that Ralph Firman driving in that picture???
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WeirdKerr wrote:
Caleb86 wrote:Image

i never liked this one!

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is that Ralph Firman driving in that picture???


Yeah it is.

And that car looks bloody awful too.
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