What If?

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 26 Oct 2013, 22:36

What if Honda built that X 32 engine for the 3L formula?

Faustus · Post by **Faustus** » 28 Oct 2013, 17:55

roblomas52 wrote:What if Honda built that X 32 engine for the 3L formula?

Someone would have gone insane trying to tune it. 32 cylinders, minimum 64 valves, carburettors... Recipe for mental breakdown.

Faustus · Post by **Faustus** » 28 Oct 2013, 17:56

Not sure if it's been asked before on this thread, but what if Nico Hulkenberg got the Team Enstone drive instead of Nick Heidfeld?

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 28 Oct 2013, 18:00

Faustus wrote:Not sure if it's been asked before on this thread, but what if Nico Hulkenberg got the Team Enstone drive instead of Nick Heidfeld?

In 2011? He would have been inexperienced unlike Heidfeld so I guess he would have scored less points. He would undoubtedly have been right up there in Montreal.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 28 Oct 2013, 18:17

Faustus wrote:
roblomas52 wrote:What if Honda built that X 32 engine for the 3L formula?

Someone would have got insane trying to tune it. 32 cylinders, minimum 64 valves, carburettors... Recipe for mental breakdown.

the engine itself ran with 128 valves and would have been running carburettors and probably air cooled.

Liquid · Post by **Liquid** » 28 Oct 2013, 20:12

What if Prost Grand Prix weren't so damn patriotic and ran a mile when they saw those Peugeot engines coming?

Hide, don't answer the phone, anything, just don't take those engines!

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 28 Oct 2013, 20:35

Liquid wrote:What if Prost Grand Prix weren't so damn patriotic and ran a mile when they saw those Peugeot engines coming?

Hide, don't answer the phone, anything, just don't take those engines!

The main reason why Prost had an awful 1998 was because of a poor balance/weight distribution in the car IIRC so keeping Mugen Honda engines might not have made any difference in pace and only 5 of their 19 retirements were down to the engine, so the engines wouldn't have made the car much more reliable, unless the Mugen Honda company manufactured other reliable components. With Jordan winning in 1999 with the engines and Prost improving that year I think they would have scored more podiums than the lone one at the Nurburgring.

watka · Post by **watka** » 29 Oct 2013, 00:31

What if Senna was disqualified from the 1990 championship for his move on Prost at Suzuka?

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 29 Oct 2013, 01:17

roblomas52 wrote:What if Honda built that X 32 engine for the 3L formula?

Massive engine failure imminent. Once it goes down a cylinder it might start losing more cylinders before grenading with a puff of smoke.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 29 Oct 2013, 01:29

watka wrote:What if Senna was disqualified from the 1990 championship for his move on Prost at Suzuka?

There would be endless whining by Senna fans. No matter how just it was.

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 29 Oct 2013, 01:54

Salamander wrote:There would be endless whining by Senna fans. No matter how just it was.

Not every Senna fan is whiny, or nessecarily agrees with what he did

What if Will Power got into F1 in 2006?

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 29 Oct 2013, 03:25

I'm not sure if this has been asked before, if it is, then sorry.

What if sponsorship in sports never happened?

Ferrarist · Post by **Ferrarist** » 29 Oct 2013, 08:22

This wrote:I'm not sure if this has been asked before, if it is, then sorry.

What if sponsorship in sports never happened?

It's impossible. Banning sponsorship in a market economy is retarded. Formula One would have either degenerated into a completely manufacturer-driven sport, or just gone out of business.

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 29 Oct 2013, 09:19

Ferrarist wrote:
This wrote:I'm not sure if this has been asked before, if it is, then sorry.

What if sponsorship in sports never happened?

It's impossible. Banning sponsorship in a market economy is retarded. Formula One would have either degenerated into a completely manufacturer-driven sport, or just gone out of business.

It would be an engine building contest between manufacturers. Expect Ford and GM to take F1 seriously if the sponsorships disappeared.

Liquid · Post by **Liquid** » 29 Oct 2013, 15:32

Have GM ever taken an interest in F1 at all?

I would expect Volkswagen to come storming through if that was the case.

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 29 Oct 2013, 22:41

In 2009, JR Hildebrand tested for Force India, what if he got a race seat for next year?

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 29 Oct 2013, 22:48

Dark77 wrote:In 2009, JR Hildebrand tested for Force India, what if he got a race seat for next year?

He would crash on the last lap while leading a race

Just kidding, he would be decent, if not good, or great.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 30 Oct 2013, 17:35

go_Rubens wrote:
Dark77 wrote:In 2009, JR Hildebrand tested for Force India, what if he got a race seat for next year?

He would crash on the last lap while leading a race

That would only happen at Monaco, wouldn't it?

wmetcalf68 · Post by **wmetcalf68** » 30 Oct 2013, 18:22

What if Nïco Hülkenberg had won the 2012 Brazilian GP?

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 30 Oct 2013, 18:24

wmetcalf68 wrote:What if Nïco Hülkenberg had won the 2012 Brazilian GP?

Hulk had already joined Sauber by then so it wouldn't have made much difference to where he drove but his stock would certainly have been 10 times higher

wmetcalf68 · Post by **wmetcalf68** » 30 Oct 2013, 18:26

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:
Hulk had already joined Sauber by then so it wouldn't have made much difference to where he drove but his stock would certainly have been 10 times higher

Oh I didn't know he had already joined Sauber! But yes, his stock would have been higher

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 05 Nov 2013, 06:18

Inspired by the movie Rush, which I happened to watch yesterday (Great film, highly recommend it :mrgreen:

), I have one for you guys to digest:

What if Jacky Ickx had gotten the McLaren drive over James Hunt for the 1976 season?

Post by **Ataxia** » 05 Nov 2013, 12:24

Wizzie wrote:Inspired by the movie Rush, which I happened to watch yesterday (Great film, highly recommend it ), I have one for you guys to digest:

What if Jacky Ickx had gotten the McLaren drive over James Hunt for the 1976 season?

They wouldn't have made Rush, leading you not to have ever come up with that thought and therefore creating a time paradox.

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 05 Nov 2013, 22:31

What if Willy T. Ribbs drove for Brabham in 1987?

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 05 Nov 2013, 22:38

Wizzie wrote:Inspired by the movie Rush, which I happened to watch yesterday (Great film, highly recommend it ), I have one for you guys to digest:

What if Jacky Ickx had gotten the McLaren drive over James Hunt for the 1976 season?

Ickx would only win one race, the one at the Nürburgring (he always performed well there) and was no threat to Lauda in the championship - no pun intended - hunt. Hunt would go to Williams instead and lose motivation quick. Instead, they would make a crappy movie in Belgium about the Ickx-Mass rivalry.

watka · Post by **watka** » 05 Nov 2013, 23:34

I think what was said in the movie was fairly accurate, Jacky Ickx would never have have won the championship with McLaren but with Hunt there was a chance.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 06 Nov 2013, 07:58

Dark77 wrote:What if Willy T. Ribbs drove for Brabham in 1987?

He could've been quite good although perhaps not good enough for points.

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 06 Nov 2013, 08:29

CoopsII wrote:
Dark77 wrote:What if Willy T. Ribbs drove for Brabham in 1987?

He could've been quite good although perhaps not good enough for points.

And Lewis Hamilton would have been only the second black/mixed race F1 driver, not the first.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 06 Nov 2013, 09:55

good_Ralf wrote:
CoopsII wrote:
Dark77 wrote:What if Willy T. Ribbs drove for Brabham in 1987?

He could've been quite good although perhaps not good enough for points.

And Lewis Hamilton would have been only the second black/mixed race F1 driver, not the first.

Maybe, maybe not. Perhaps he could've inspired a whole host of drivers and by 2007 Lewis Hamilton would've been just another young star driver, which would've been nice as it would've meant the world was a better place.

Ferrarist · Post by **Ferrarist** » 06 Nov 2013, 16:02

What if, Leyton-House has Honda engines from 1988-1991?

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 06 Nov 2013, 16:44

Ferrarist wrote:What if, Leyton-House has Honda engines from 1988-1991?

Plenty of wins but the drivers would not have been consistant enough for a championship bid but they would have won the WCC.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 06 Nov 2013, 19:30

What if Project 4 had formed their own team in 1980, instead of taking over / merging with McLaren.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 07 Nov 2013, 01:02

CoopsII wrote:
Dark77 wrote:What if Willy T. Ribbs drove for Brabham in 1987?

He could've been quite good although perhaps not good enough for points.

Didn't matter how good he would be, nobody would be able to complete a full race distance with that car...

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 11 Nov 2013, 22:04

Salamander wrote:
East Londoner wrote:What if Michael Waltrip somehow made it to F1 in the late 1980s/early 1990s?

Bad things. Very bad things.

If there's one thing I've wanted to find out since i joined it's why is Michael Waltrip so maligned on this forum?

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 12 Nov 2013, 17:37

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:
Salamander wrote:
East Londoner wrote:What if Michael Waltrip somehow made it to F1 in the late 1980s/early 1990s?

Bad things. Very bad things.

If there's one thing I've wanted to find out since i joined it's why is Michael Waltrip so maligned on this forum?

Because he's the NASCAR equivalent of Andy Neate. He might've won 4 races, but those were all on restrictor plate tracks for DEI in the early 2000s. Who were by far the most dominant team on those types of tracks back then.

fbjim · Post by **fbjim** » 12 Nov 2013, 20:55

Waltrip gets a bit of a bad rap- he's hardly a legend, but he frequently preformed well in terrible teams in the 90s.

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 13 Nov 2013, 21:26

What Satoshi Motoyama got into F1 with a 2000s team such as Jaguar or Toyota?

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 14 Nov 2013, 15:49

good_Ralf wrote:What Satoshi Motoyama got into F1 with a 2000s team such as Jaguar or Toyota?

A new reject profile.

yurek · Post by **yurek** » 14 Nov 2013, 23:59

Hello everybody! I'm new here and sorry if any of these questions were asked before.
What if HH Frentzen had accepted challenge from Williams in 1994?
What if Stewart had bought Sauber out in 1996 instead of creating all new team?
What if Jos Verstappen had replaced Damon Hill after 1999 British GP?
What if Williams had chosen Junqueira instead of Button?
What if Pacific had renamed its constructor's name to Lotus in 1995?
What if Lion GP had been built?
What if Ferrari F92A's double floor had been as good on track as in wind tunnel?
What if Michele Alboreto had raced in Benetton in 1994?
What if Yuji Ide had been the World Champion in 2006?

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 21 Nov 2013, 16:33

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Another what for the WRC: Having just seen Top 10 out of control I ask what if Francois Duval accepted the multi-year deal with Ford he was offered rather than accepting the single year at Citroen?

In 2005 the Focus was becoming outdated (it was the 2004) compared to the Xsara and a case can be made that even the 307 and the Impreza had more speed by then. I guess Ford would've rolled with a Duval-Gardemeister line-up, leaving Roman Kresta without a seat. Duval would've scored podiums in the asphalt rounds (challenged for victories) and would've crashed remarkably less since he was familiar with the Focus and was confident in the team. The interesting though is who Citroen would've hired for 2005? Märtin? Then the WRC History changes. Sordo was too young then, still competing in JWRC and Pons (LOL) .. Sainz retired by the end of 2004.

In 2006, Ford go with Grönholm-Duval. This leaves Hirvonen probably forever without a factory drive post-2005 and without any victories. Duval would've certainly won more than once.