1980 Alternate F1 - Season final at Suzuka up

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 05 Mar 2014, 15:37

We qualified. Yaaaaay.

Ferrarist · Post by **Ferrarist** » 05 Mar 2014, 16:16

Cosworth will spend 1 million $ on power, 200.000 $ on fuel consumption and 300.000 $ on reliability. We'll also hand out the upgrades for free, since we'll receive 20% of our clients prize money and sponsorship.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 05 Mar 2014, 21:22

Wallio, you mind checking your e-mail please?

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 05 Mar 2014, 22:06

A Boro qualified? We can not let this happen! Ferrari, do you have any upgrades coming soon?

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 05 Mar 2014, 22:57

Salamander wrote:Wallio, you mind checking your e-mail please?

Done.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 05 Mar 2014, 23:00

This wrote:A Boro qualified? We can not let this happen! Ferrari, do you have any upgrades coming soon?

Too late now, say hello to 20th in the constructors. :twisted:

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 05 Mar 2014, 23:14

This wrote:A Boro qualified? We can not let this happen! Ferrari, do you have any upgrades coming soon?

Methinks your car needs the upgrades more than our engine need them

Nevertheless, we will look into upgrading our engines in the near future.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 06 Mar 2014, 00:09

takagi_for_the_win wrote:
This wrote:A Boro qualified? We can not let this happen! Ferrari, do you have any upgrades coming soon?

Methinks your car needs the upgrades more than our engine need them Nevertheless, we will look into upgrading our engines in the near future.

Yeah, considering i have a small budget, i need to know what the short-term possibilities are, so just asking.
A 200K ground effect upgrade should improve the pace a little bit on the short term. It's a shame we're in pre-qualifying though, as some cars in main qualifying look slower than us.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 06 Mar 2014, 13:27

10th and 12th in quali? Osella is the highest placed Ferrari team on the grid!

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 07 Mar 2014, 07:50

1980 Belgian GP - Race:

1. Jacques Laffite (Arrows A3) 45 Laps
2. Tom Pryce (McLaren M29) +18.428
3. James Hunt (McLaren M29) +41.836
4. Patrick Depailler (Arrows A3) +55.736
5. Stefan Johansson (Shadow DN11) +1:30.045
6. Ronnie Peterson (Williams FW07B) +1:39.012
7. Patrick Tambay (Shadow DN11) +1:47.578
8. Jody Scheckter (Brabham BT49) +2:00.428
9. Riccardo Patrese (Osella FA1) +2:05.259
10. Michele Alboreto (Osella FA1) +1 Lap
11. John Watson (Project Four OP4-1) +1 Lap
12. Gilles Villeneuve (Ferrari 312T5) +1 Lap
13. Carlos Reutemann (Ensign N180) +1 Lap
14. Piercarlo Ghinzani (Ligier JS11-15) +1 Lap
15. Nelson Piquet (Tyrrell 010) +1 Lap
16. Eddie Cheever (Alfa Romeo 180) +1 Lap
17. Jan Lammers (Tyrrell 010) +1 Lap
18. Chris Amon (Surtees TS21) +1 Lap
19. Thierry Boutsen (Rebaque HR101) +1 Lap
20. Keke Rosberg (Brabham BT49) +4 Laps / Engine
21. Alan Jones (Renault RE20) +4 Laps /Brakes
22. Rene Arnoux (Boro 004) +4 Laps / Gearbox
DNF Alain Prost (Renault RE20) +9 Laps / Suspension
DNF Elio de Angelis (Ferrari 312T5) +14 Laps / Electrics
DNF Clay Regazzoni (March 801) +19 Laps / Engine
DNF Tom Sneva (Ensign N180) +24 Laps / Suspension
DNF Derek Daly (Project Four OP4-1) +27 Laps / Accident
DNF Didier Pironi (Ligier JS11-15) +32 Laps / Electrics
DNF Niki Lauda (Lotus 81) +37 Laps / Gearbox
DNF Nigel Mansell (Alfa Romeo 180) +38 Laps / Gearbox
DNF Jean-Pierre Jabouille (Rebaque HR101) +40 Laps / Transmission
DNF Carlos Pace (Williams FW07B) +41 Laps / Engine

Fastest Lap: Jacques Laffite (Arrows)

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 07 Mar 2014, 12:28

400K Grip + 200K Top Speed for Osella please.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 07 Mar 2014, 12:33

Woo-hoo! We won the race to beat the "unbeatable" Mclaren BMW combination on a race track where reliability was not an issue. Certainly happy with that result, we are organizing French party tonight in our motor home

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 07 Mar 2014, 14:25

pycku wrote:Woo-hoo! We won the race to beat the "unbeatable" Mclaren BMW combination on a race track where reliability was not an issue. Certainly happy with that result, we are organizing French party tonight in our motor home

Only because this is a high-speed circuit and you have the most powerful engine. And even then, Pryce was giving Laffite a run for his money until he spun. Next time, you won't be so lucky.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 07 Mar 2014, 15:28

Well, we finished, so that's something. Better than the last couple races

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 07 Mar 2014, 15:36

Lammers starting and finishing is still a good point yet

TYrrell will invest 200k at grip and 100k at topspeed then

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 07 Mar 2014, 15:56

pycku wrote:Woo-hoo! We won the race to beat the "unbeatable" Mclaren BMW combination on a race track where reliability was not an issue. Certainly happy with that result, we are organizing French party tonight in our motor home

For now, but BMW is pleased to announce the latest development in the already incredibly fruitful partnership with McLaren: The "British-Blitzkrieg" Spec. Designed with heavy input (and funding) from our partners in Woking, this new engine should restore the proper order. It is being air-freighted to McLaren and Shadow immediately, and will be available to Project-4 and Boro after the next round, for a price TBD.

And hey, you know you're doing well when having your factory cars come home 2nd and 3rd, with a semi-works car in the points as well is a "bad" day. :lol:

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 07 Mar 2014, 17:47

Awesome we were technically classified which puts us not only ahead of Kaushen but above March as well.

I assume Arnoux was at the back when his gearbox failed but how far behind Boutsen was he?

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 07 Mar 2014, 17:49

Samster wrote:Awesome we were technically classified which puts us not only ahead of Kaushen but above March as well.

I assume Arnoux was at the back when his gearbox failed but how far behind Boutsen was he?

He was significantly behind Boutsen, 30 seconds or so I guess, but he was ahead of Regazzoni until Regazzoni retired.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 07 Mar 2014, 17:53

pi314159 wrote:
Samster wrote:Awesome we were technically classified which puts us not only ahead of Kaushen but above March as well.

I assume Arnoux was at the back when his gearbox failed but how far behind Boutsen was he?

He was significantly behind Boutsen, 30 seconds or so I guess, but he was ahead of Regazzoni until Regazzoni retired.

Good to hear and if he managed to give the great Niki Lauda some trouble too then we will be feeling very smug. 8-)

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 07 Mar 2014, 20:28

Well, we're still in front of ATS

Which makes us still the best German constructor!

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 07 Mar 2014, 20:53

This wrote:Well, we're still in front of ATS Which makes us still the best German constructor!

That's not hard

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 07 Mar 2014, 20:55

andrew wrote:
This wrote:Well, we're still in front of ATS Which makes us still the best German constructor!

That's not hard

That's the joke.

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 07 Mar 2014, 20:59

Now the Belgian Grand Prix is done Alfa Romeo will spend 500K on Grip and 100K on reliability. we also plan upgrade our engines and should ATS be interested in the upgrades engines they will be delivered free of charge.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 07 Mar 2014, 22:01

peteroli34 wrote:Now the Belgian Grand Prix is done Alfa Romeo will spend 500K on Grip and 100K on reliability. we also plan upgrade our engines and should ATS be interested in the upgrades engines they will be delivered free of charge.

The free of charge makes us german cheapskates very interested

Meanwhile we are interested in the following pay drivers
Frank Jelinski
John Nielsen
Franz Konrad
Chico Serra

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 09 Mar 2014, 07:36

Frank Jelinski:
1-40 joins ATS
41-100 declines because he doesn't have enough experience
99, he declines

John Nielsen
1-75 joins ATS
76-100 declines
6, he accepts and offers 10 000. He wants at least one race.

Franz Konrad
1-75 joins ATS
76-100 declines
59, he accepts and offers 20 000. He wants at least two races.

Chico Serra
1-5 joins ATS
6-100 declines
56, he declines, as he already turned down a better car from Boro.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 09 Mar 2014, 08:04

Nielsen will replace Giacomelli next race, Konrad will race in Austria and tbc

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 12 Mar 2014, 08:51

1980 Monaco Grand Prix - Pre-qualifying:

1. Derek Daly (Project Four OP4-1) 1:26.206
2. Nelson Piquet (Tyrrell 010) +0.358
3. Rene Arnoux (Boro 004) +0.547
4. John Watson (Project Four OP4-1) +0.670
5. Derek Warwick (Boro 004) +1.119
6. Andrea de Cesaris (Rebaque HR101) +1.295
7. Jan Lammers (Tyrrell 010) +1.330
8. Jochen Mass (Kauhsen WK2) +1.369
9. Niki Lauda (Lotus 81) +1.426
10. Jean-Pierre Jabouille (Rebaque HR101) +1.588
11. Rick Mears (Lotus 81) +1.801
12. Jacky Ickx (March 801) +1.970
13. Clay Regazzoni (March 801) +2.107
14. Manfred Winkelhock (Kauhsen WK2) +2.309
15. Brian Henton (Surtees TS21) +2.577
16. Chris Amon (Surtees TS21) +2.634
17. Eliseo Salazar (Wolf WR9) +4.084
18. Jean-Pierre Jarier (Wolf WR9) +4.431
19. Marc Surer (ATS D3) +5.418
20. John Nielsen (ATS D3) +8.191

1980 Monaco Grand Prix - Qualifying

1. Tom Pryce (McLaren M29) 1:22.009
2. James Hunt (McLaren M29) +0.109
3. Jacques Laffite (Arrows A3) +0.399
4. Patrick Depailler (Arrows A3) +0.670
5. Stefan Johansson (Shadow DN11) +1.080
6. Jody Scheckter (Brabham BT49) +1.620
7. Patrick Tambay (Shadow DN11) +1.649
8. Keke Rosberg (Brabham BT49) +1.713
9. Ronnie Peterson (Williams FW07B) +2.513
10. Elio de Angelis (Ferrari 312T5) +2.858
11. Gilles Villeneuve (Ferrari 312T5) +3.151
12. Carlos Pace (Williams FW07B) +3.356
13. John Watson (Project Four OP4-1) +3.380
14. Derek Warwick (Boro 004) +3.624
15. Carlos Reutemann (Ensign N180) +3.645
16. Didier Pironi (Ligier JS11-15) +3.790
17. Rene Arnoux (Boro 004) +3.817
18. Derek Daly (Project Four OP4-1) +3.831
19. Tom Sneva (Ensign N180) +4.037
20. Riccardo Patrese (Osella FA1) +4.094
21. Nelson Piquet (Tyrrell 010) +4.223
22. Nigel Mansell (Alfa Romeo 180) +4.240
23. Alan Jones (Renault RE20) +4.338
24. Eddie Cheever (Alfa Romeo 180) +4.425
25. Michele Alboreto (Osella FA1) +4.466
26. Alain Prost (Renault RE20) +4.495
27. Mario Andretti (Penske PC7) +4.628
28. Piercarlo Ghinzani (Ligier JS11-15) +4.797
29. Emerson Fittipaldi (Penske PC7) +4.911
30. Andrea de Cesaris (Rebaque HR101) +5.365

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 12 Mar 2014, 10:29

Ouch, a real crash down to earth for Osella there.

I think our budget allows it, we'll spend 600K on grip. Hopefully that improves our speed in slower corners.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 12 Mar 2014, 11:25

The shortest grid of the season and we qualify solidly in the midfield? :shock:

I honestly thought we'd have no chance of even making past pre-qualifying for this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwpD3USKEKw

How were Warwick and Arnoux not snapped up by anyone else?

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 12 Mar 2014, 11:49

8 BMW powered cars on the grid for the most important race of them all. We are quite pleased.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 12 Mar 2014, 15:19

Maaan, this is what we put all that money into grip for!

Normal32 · Post by **Normal32** » 12 Mar 2014, 18:00

I can be puted into a waiting list?

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 12 Mar 2014, 21:32

Normal32 wrote:I can be puted into a waiting list?

Just so you know mate, puted is not a word in the English language, it would be put. English is rather confusing isn't it? Well to be honest I'm just as bad. Probably a tad hypercritical honestly. Just ignore me.

Post by **Ataxia** » 12 Mar 2014, 21:33

andrew wrote:
Normal32 wrote:I can be puted into a waiting list?

Just so you know mate, puted is not a word in the English language, it would be put. English is rather confusing isn't it?

Oh, NOW you find the "shift" key.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 12 Mar 2014, 21:43

Ataxia wrote:
andrew wrote:
Normal32 wrote:I can be puted into a waiting list?

Just so you know mate, puted is not a word in the English language, it would be put. English is rather confusing isn't it?

Oh, NOW you find the "shift" key.

I'm sorry, what do you mean? Is it the fact that I do not spell or punctuate properly so it is a little hypercritical

andrew wrote:
Normal32 wrote:I can be puted into a waiting list?

Just so you know mate, puted is not a word in the English language, it would be put. English is rather confusing isn't it? Well to be honest I'm just as bad. Probably a tad hypercritical honestly. Just ignore me.

Actually, before it causes anymore arguments, could you delete the quoted post by me moderators?

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 12 Mar 2014, 22:34

This is painful. We're actually quite competitive here, actually beating 12 other cars (including a Kauhsen! Oh wait...) but yeah, short grid. And wtf Boro? That can't be legal

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 12 Mar 2014, 23:32

This wrote:This is painful. We're actually quite competitive here, actually beating 12 other cars (including a Kauhsen! Oh wait...) but yeah, short grid. And wtf Boro? That can't be legal

I guess the 3 million we put into ground effects must have been a perfect match for Monaco. I predict we'll go back to failing to qualify once we are back on the low downforce tracks.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 13 Mar 2014, 09:52

1980 Monaco Grand Prix - Race:

The race was interrupted on lap 36 due to a very bad crash of Ronnie Peterson, and later restarted.

1. Tom Pryce (McLaren-BMW) 78 Laps (36+42)
2. Jacques Laffite (Arrows-Renault) +7.007
3. Patrick Depailler (Arrows-Renault) +25.665
4. Keke Rosberg (Brabham-Matra) +1 Lap
5. Derek Daly (Project Four-BMW) +1 Lap
6. Carlos Reutemann (Ensign-Ferrari) +1 Lap
7. Carlos Pace (Williams-Matra) +1 Lap
8. Didier Pironi (Ligier-Ferrari) +1 Lap
9. Rene Arnoux (Boro-BMW) +2 Laps
10. Tom Sneva (Ensign-Ferrari) +2 Laps
11. John Watson (Project Four-BMW) +2 Laps
12. Riccardo Patrese (Osella-Ferrari) +6 Laps / Engine
DNF Nigel Mansell (Alfa Romeo) +11 Laps / Accident
DNF Stefan Johansson (Shadow-BMW) +26 Laps / Gearbox
DNF Jody Scheckter (Brabham-Matra) +30 Laps / Transmission
DNF Patrick Tambay (Shadow-BMW) +30 Laps / Gearbox
DNF James Hunt (McLaren-BMW) +40 Laps / Engine
DNF Ronnie Peterson (Williams-Matra) +43 Laps / Accident
DNF Alan Jones (Renault) +50 Laps / Gearbox
DNF Eddie Cheever (Alfa Romeo) +55 Laps / Gearbox
DNF Elio de Angelis (Ferrari) +58 Laps / Suspension
DNF Gilles Villeneuve (Ferrari) +64 Laps / Engine
DNF Nelson Piquet (Tyrrell-Cosworth) +68 Laps / Engine
DNF Derek Warwick (Boro-BMW) +75 Laps / Gearbox

Fastest Lap: Tom Pryce

Injury report: Ronnie Peterson will miss the rest of the season due to injuries sustained in his heavy crash at the harbour chicane.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 13 Mar 2014, 10:53

Right, one last stab at the fabled RNG gods to try saving this sinking ship.

March will spend £3 million on ground effects.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 13 Mar 2014, 11:41

Top ten finish, we'll take it, should ensure us the top 15 or so in constructors.

Shame Warwick retired though, he might have scored a point based on where Daly ended up.