[welcome captain obvious] Ferrari F1 barcode a subliminal ad

Ulfuls · Post by **Ulfuls** » 06 May 2010, 19:25

dr-baker wrote:
Autosport wrote:A statement issued by the team said: "Together with Philip Morris International we have decided to modify the livery of our cars starting with the Barcelona Grand Prix.

"This decision was taken in order to remove all speculation concerning the so-called 'barcode' which was never intended to be a reference to a tobacco brand.

"By this we want to put an end to this ridiculous story and concentrate on more important things than on such groundless allegations."

Good old Monty. There's something awe-inspiring about his absolute refusal to recognise any reality but his own. As someone else said said about someone very different:

"In an age of spin, [he] offers feeling and authenticity. His message is consistent -- unshakeable, in fact, no matter the evidence -- but he commands daily attention by his on-the-spot, invective-rich variations on the theme. His ... counterfactual art is more appealing than the banal awfulness of the Reliable Sources. ... He stands superior to truth."

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 06 May 2010, 20:09

dr-baker wrote:
Autosport wrote:A statement issued by the team said: "Together with Philip Morris International we have decided to modify the livery of our cars starting with the Barcelona Grand Prix.

"This decision was taken in order to remove all speculation concerning the so-called 'barcode' which was never intended to be a reference to a tobacco brand.

"By this we want to put an end to this ridiculous story and concentrate on more important things than on such groundless allegations."

If it was never meant to be a reference to a tobacco brand, why the bathplug have they made this decision "together with Philip Morris International?"

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83346

But, heck, at least they could have removed that garish and ugly white square. So, what were they saying? Something about not advertising a tobacco brand? This isn't over, I'm affraid...

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 06 May 2010, 20:47

I would say that having seen the replacement, that it looks more like cigarette packet....

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 07 May 2010, 08:56

WeirdKerr wrote:I would say that having seen the replacement, that it looks more like cigarette packet....

It's an image with flat edges!! Using complex analytical techniques I deduce that a box also has flat edges! I smell a consipiracy! :lol:

eagleash · Post by **eagleash** » 07 May 2010, 11:32

Joe Saward points out in his blog that fast food is almost as unhealthy as tobacco & asks (tongue in cheek) if we should ban ads for that too.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 07 May 2010, 18:34

eagleash wrote:Joe Saward points out in his blog that fast food is almost as unhealthy as tobacco & asks (tongue in cheek) if we should ban ads for that too.

Not to mention alcohol...

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 07 May 2010, 18:48

Phoenix wrote:
eagleash wrote:Joe Saward points out in his blog that fast food is almost as unhealthy as tobacco & asks (tongue in cheek) if we should ban ads for that too.

Not to mention alcohol...

Banks have ruined the economy. It's off with RBS and Santander. The fuel and tyre manufacturers ruin the environment, so it's them off as well. Car manufacturers, in fact, should go. And anyone even remotely connected to the car industry. In fact, they'll end up jogging, collaboratively, wearing no sponsorship, and with banners supporting health & safety and hemp's medicinal properties.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 07 May 2010, 19:01

CarlosFerreira wrote:
Phoenix wrote:
eagleash wrote:Joe Saward points out in his blog that fast food is almost as unhealthy as tobacco & asks (tongue in cheek) if we should ban ads for that too.

Not to mention alcohol...

Banks have ruined the economy. It's off with RBS and Santander. The fuel and tyre manufacturers ruin the environment, so it's them off as well. Car manufacturers, in fact, should go. And anyone even remotely connected to the car industry. In fact, they'll end up jogging, collaboratively, wearing no sponsorship, and with banners supporting health & safety and hemp's medicinal properties.

In fact, why don't go nude all around?

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 07 May 2010, 19:04

Phoenix wrote:
CarlosFerreira wrote:
Phoenix wrote:Not to mention alcohol...

Banks have ruined the economy. It's off with RBS and Santander. The fuel and tyre manufacturers ruin the environment, so it's them off as well. Car manufacturers, in fact, should go. And anyone even remotely connected to the car industry. In fact, they'll end up jogging, collaboratively, wearing no sponsorship, and with banners supporting health & safety and hemp's medicinal properties.

In fact, why don't go nude all around?

I don't really insist in seeing Schuey as nature intended, of it's all the same to you.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 07 May 2010, 19:19

CarlosFerreira wrote:I don't really insist in seeing Schuey as nature intended, of it's all the same to you.

Well, me neither. Just getting things ad absurdum...

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 07 May 2010, 19:44

Phoenix wrote:
CarlosFerreira wrote:I don't really insist in seeing Schuey as nature intended, of it's all the same to you.

Well, me neither. Just getting things ad absurdum...

Yup.

McDuck · Post by **McDuck** » 07 May 2010, 21:06

But it's for the children... :roll:

VladTheImpaled · Post by **VladTheImpaled** » 07 May 2010, 21:07

So if (or when) California decides to legalize Marijuana, what sort of F1 advertising will we see then?

Kinda gives a whole different meaning to 'Gives you wings' for Red Bull....

V

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 07 May 2010, 22:07

VladTheImpaled wrote:So if (or when) California decides to legalize Marijuana, what sort of F1 advertising will we see then?

Kinda gives a whole different meaning to 'Gives you wings' for Red Bull....

V

Talk about going green.

eagleash · Post by **eagleash** » 08 May 2010, 03:43

Well Nelson Piquet Jr is a weed.

Edit.......allegedly......

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 08 May 2010, 11:01

thehemogoblin wrote:
VladTheImpaled wrote:So if (or when) California decides to legalize Marijuana, what sort of F1 advertising will we see then?

Kinda gives a whole different meaning to 'Gives you wings' for Red Bull....

V

Talk about going green.

I'm afraid it all goes up in smoke.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 08 May 2010, 11:03

CarlosFerreira wrote:
thehemogoblin wrote:
VladTheImpaled wrote:So if (or when) California decides to legalize Marijuana, what sort of F1 advertising will we see then?

Kinda gives a whole different meaning to 'Gives you wings' for Red Bull....

V

Talk about going green.

I'm afraid it all goes up in smoke.

Neverending PUNishment

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 08 May 2010, 11:08

Klon wrote:Neverending PUNishment

If they only sponsored Nick Wirth's team.

Yuji_Ide · Post by **Yuji_Ide** » 10 May 2010, 03:51

I'm so glad the livery is a lot less obvious now.

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 10 May 2010, 06:09

Yuji_Ide wrote:I'm so glad the livery is a lot less obvious now.

It makes me crave a Ritter Sport Marzipan like you wouldn't believe.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 10 May 2010, 08:45

thehemogoblin wrote:

Urgh, now THIS should be banned

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 10 May 2010, 17:20

Klon wrote:
thehemogoblin wrote:

Urgh, now THIS should be banned

WHAT?!!

watka · Post by **watka** » 10 May 2010, 22:02

How can anyone hate marzipan? Battenburg is the cake of HWNSNBMs.

Porrima · Post by **Porrima** » 10 May 2010, 23:23

Marzipan chocolate is great.

Klon has made me very sad.

:cry:

etc

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 11 May 2010, 00:12

You all have severe lack of taste :mrgreen:

(This, of course, is not surprising in watka's case)

Now THIS is superior chocolate!

JeanDenisAlcatraz · Post by **JeanDenisAlcatraz** » 11 May 2010, 00:19

Olympia is incredible, although I don't know whether that's only here in Germany. I plan to stock up on Ritters before I go back home next month

Anyway, back on topic: Must. Smoke. Marlboro. And dress as a cowboy.

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 11 May 2010, 00:30

Klon wrote:You all have severe lack of taste
(This, of course, is not surprising in watka's case)

Now THIS is superior chocolate!

I'm really a fan of any Ritter Sport I can get my grubby little paws on, but the marzipan is the easiest one to find in the US. Every time my grandparents come over from Germany, they bring a trip-and-a-half's worth of them.

Side note: Just got done eating a bag of Haribo Goldbaeren. NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 11 May 2010, 08:09

Klon wrote:You all have severe lack of taste
(This, of course, is not surprising in watka's case)

Now THIS is superior chocolate!

Indeed. If it had a bit of red somewhere, it'd be the FW14 of chocolates. :geek:

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 11 May 2010, 08:13

CarlosFerreira wrote:
Klon wrote:You all have severe lack of taste
(This, of course, is not surprising in watka's case)

Now THIS is superior chocolate!

Indeed. If it had a bit of red somewhere, it'd be the FW14 of chocolates.

Something tells me ground effects in chocolate aren't as good as they are in Formula One.

DonTirri · Post by **DonTirri** » 11 May 2010, 09:33

thehemogoblin wrote:
CarlosFerreira wrote:
Klon wrote:You all have severe lack of taste
(This, of course, is not surprising in watka's case)

Now THIS is superior chocolate!

Indeed. If it had a bit of red somewhere, it'd be the FW14 of chocolates.

Something tells me ground effects in chocolate aren't as good as they are in Formula One.

Umm... FW14 HAD no ground effects...

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 11 May 2010, 09:47

DonTirri wrote:Umm... FW14 HAD no ground effects...

But it had downforce ... hhhhmmmmmm, delicious downforce

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 11 May 2010, 14:54

DonTirri wrote:Umm... FW14 HAD no ground effects...

My knowledge of pre-me-watching-Formula-One Formula One is about the same as John Dorian's knowledge of geography (New Zealand is next to Old Zealand).

Jordan192 · Post by **Jordan192** » 11 May 2010, 15:16

DonTirri wrote:Umm... FW14 HAD no ground effects...

You're kidding, right? They had active diffusers the size of oxfordshire...

(in an active diffuser the exhaust is vented directly into the venturi tunnels, giving you more downforce if you're on the throttle )

DonTirri · Post by **DonTirri** » 11 May 2010, 15:44

Jordan192 wrote:
DonTirri wrote:Umm... FW14 HAD no ground effects...

You're kidding, right? They had active diffusers the size of oxfordshire...

(in an active diffuser the exhaust is vented directly into the venturi tunnels, giving you more downforce if you're on the throttle )

Not the groundeffects I was thinking. Not the groundeffects EVERYONE WHO KNOWS A DAMN THING ABOUT F1 THINKS.

That being skirts and related systems.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 11 May 2010, 18:05

DonTirri wrote:Umm... FW14 HAD no ground effects...

NO! Don't believe his word! It's the car that introduced turbo engines in F1 and I used to dominate the world championship back in 1934...

Waris · Post by **Waris** » 30 May 2010, 09:22

Klon wrote:You all have severe lack of taste
(This, of course, is not surprising in watka's case)

Now THIS is superior chocolate!

I hereby allege that some parts of the Toro Rosso cars contain subliminal advertising.

Post by **mario** » 30 May 2010, 09:49

DonTirri wrote:
Jordan192 wrote:
DonTirri wrote:Umm... FW14 HAD no ground effects...

You're kidding, right? They had active diffusers the size of oxfordshire...

(in an active diffuser the exhaust is vented directly into the venturi tunnels, giving you more downforce if you're on the throttle )

Not the groundeffects I was thinking. Not the groundeffects EVERYONE WHO KNOWS A DAMN THING ABOUT F1 THINKS.

That being skirts and related systems.

Exactly - mention ground effects, and everybody thinks of the Lotus 78 and 79, and the combination of full venturi tunnels and skirts that made those cars so successful. That said, there are still a few racing series which use venturi tunnels - GP2, the Le Mans series, Indy cars (although none of those series use the skirts - they only use a sculpted floor).
The blown diffusers, as used on the FW14, are a much later development (and were first developed by Newey for use whilst he was working at March, back in the late 1980's). They work in a quite different way, and were mainly a speciality of Newey (because whilst it increased the downforce when the driver was on the throttle, each time they lifted their foot off the throttle, the loss of downforce would destabilise the car, making them tricky to drive on the limit). Even he abandoned them at Mclaren, because the cars were becoming too difficult to drive in the high speed corners, when the drivers were having to adjust the throttle, and it's only this year that we're seeing a possible return of the exhaust driver diffuser (with the RB6, and possibly now the FW32 from Canada onwards).

Ross Prawn · Post by **Ross Prawn** » 30 May 2010, 15:11

Strangely I just went out and bought 800 fags for no apparent reason.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 30 May 2010, 15:16

Ross Prawn wrote:Strangely I just went out and bought 800 fags for no apparent reason.

It works!