Driver-Team Pairings You'd Like To See/Have Seen

watka · Post by **watka** » 09 Oct 2010, 20:55

In the same vein as WeirdKerr's thread...

Senna at Ferrari
Schumacher at McLaren
Montoya at Ferrari
Alesi at Williams
Fisichella at Williams
Senna at Brabham
Bruno Senna at Brawn
Rosberg at McLaren
Sutil at McLaren
Any WC dropping down to Minardi

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 09 Oct 2010, 21:01

Hakkinen at Ferrari
Webber at Mclaren

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 09 Oct 2010, 21:02

HWNSNBM at Ferrari 2000-04
Schumacher completing 1991 in the Jordan.....
Deletraz in the 1996 williams

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 09 Oct 2010, 21:34

Hamilton at Ferrari, just to see the reaction he got.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 09 Oct 2010, 21:37

deletraz at [insert team run by colin kolles]

watka · Post by **watka** » 09 Oct 2010, 22:37

This wrote:deletraz at [insert team run by colin kolles]

Senna at [insert team run by Tom Walkinshaw]

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 10 Oct 2010, 00:06

-Mario Andretti having a full season with Ferrari.
-Tommy Byrne with McLaren.
-Stefan Bellof with Ferrari.
-Eddie Cheever with Ferrari (apparently he was offered at the beginning of his career a drive with them).
-Luca Badoer with Benetton.
-Derek Warwick with Lotus or Williams.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 10 Oct 2010, 01:57

Bruno Senna at Lotus Renault, McLaren, or Williams.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 10 Oct 2010, 02:10

The most exciting driver-team pairing possible: heidfeld at toyota

QuickYoda41 · Post by **QuickYoda41** » 10 Oct 2010, 02:21

Schumacher in Virgin
Alonso in Hispania (Spanish team-Spanish driver 8-)

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Hamilton in Life 8-)

Kobayashi and Glock in McLaren
Chandhok in Ferrari

MinardiFan95 · Post by **MinardiFan95** » 10 Oct 2010, 02:21

Kobayashi at SOOPAH AGURI
Pierluigi Martini at Ferrari
Luca Badoer at Ferrari in 1999 instead of Salo
HWNSNBM at any team on the grid
Hamilton at any team other than McLaren.

Faustus · Post by **Faustus** » 10 Oct 2010, 09:45

Phoenix wrote:-Derek Warwick with Lotus or Williams.

Lotus in 1990.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 10 Oct 2010, 09:49

- Kobayashi in a Ferrari
- Sutil in a McLaren
- Hamilton ANYWHERE outside McLaren
- Vettel ANYWHERE outside Red Bull
- Chandhok in a Force India
- Senna in a Lotus
- Massa in a Sauber AGAIN (after 02, 04, 05)

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 10 Oct 2010, 10:18

Juan Pablo Montoya at Ferrari (after leaving Mclaren)
Ralf Schumacher in the 2008 McLaren (I know he was after the drive as Hamilton's teammate after Alonso was confirmed as leaving!)

jackanderton · Post by **jackanderton** » 10 Oct 2010, 10:50

de Cesaris and Giacomelli driving for Ferrari all the way through the 80s.

LucaPacchiarini · Post by **LucaPacchiarini** » 10 Oct 2010, 10:57

Bruno Senna - Barrichello

Imagine Bruno racing in the same team with someone who raced against his uncle

coops · Post by **coops** » 10 Oct 2010, 11:16

James Hunt in anything after his 1989 test with Williams where he was reasonably quick.

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 10 Oct 2010, 13:10

I've also just thought two pairs that did happen but not simultaneously but I'd like to have seen at the same time - Senna and Prost in McLaren-Hondas battling with Mansell and Piquet in comparable Williams-Hondas in the late 80s. That could have been some 4-way battle for a championship, none of them would have got any help from their teammates!

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 10 Oct 2010, 14:48

Driver and team careers don't go together but I would have liked to see some of the "playboys" (eg. Hunt) with Red Bull Racing

eagleash · Post by **eagleash** » 10 Oct 2010, 17:16

Sir Stirling alongside Clark in a works Lotus 1963.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 10 Oct 2010, 18:32

Faustus wrote:
Phoenix wrote:-Derek Warwick with Lotus or Williams.

Lotus in 1990.

Sorry, I meant Derek Warwick in a Lotus 97T.

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 10 Oct 2010, 21:11

How about drivers who drove for a team at the wrong time.... such as Martin Brundle at Williams (one off race) or when he drove for Mclaren in 1994

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 11 Oct 2010, 08:07

WeirdKerr wrote:How about drivers who drove for a team at the wrong time....

Jean Alesi. Nuff said.

The same could apply to Jacques Villeneuve as he left BAR just as they become competitive and was fired by BMW before the end of 06.

eagleash · Post by **eagleash** » 11 Oct 2010, 11:06

JV sacked by both BAR Honda & Sauber & THEN they become competitive. What can this mean?

Jeroen Krautmeir · Post by **Jeroen Krautmeir** » 11 Oct 2010, 11:12

Martin Brundle/Luca Badoer- Benetton 1992-1995: Brundle wins 1994 and 1995 fair and square, but is heartbroken by his friend, Senna's death, and promptly retires after a last year with Tyrrell in 1996. Badoer wins the championship in 1998 and 1999, but he too leaves, for Ferrari. Benetton stay until 2002, when the team is sold to Renault.

Stephane Sarrazin/Nick Heidfeld- BAR 1999-2003: Jacques Villeneuve is prevented from starting the season for his team when he is involved in a motorbike accident. After Sarrazin and Heidfeld put up spectacular peformances in the first three races, both nearly scoring points if it weren't for reliability problems, Craig Pollock has no choice but to sack his long time friend. BAR replace him with Adrian Reynard. Sarrazin and Heidfeld stay until 2003, when Heidfeld moves to Jordan, and Sarrazin moves to Renault. Their successors, Jenson Button and Takuma Sato fail to match the startling performances of the Sarrafeld combination.

coops · Post by **coops** » 11 Oct 2010, 11:17

eagleash wrote:JV sacked by both BAR Honda & Sauber & THEN they become competitive. What can this mean?

And Renault. He did a few races for them shortly before they became World Champions (I think).

eagleash · Post by **eagleash** » 11 Oct 2010, 11:36

coops wrote:
eagleash wrote:JV sacked by both BAR Honda & Sauber & THEN they become competitive. What can this mean?

And Renault. He did a few races for them shortly before they became World Champions (I think).

Yes 3 races at the end of 2004. No points, lapped every race. & Renault weren't totally uncompetitive then as they finished third in the constructors (& might have finished second). I think he already had a contract for 2005 with Sauber. Who couldn't have been impressed?

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 11 Oct 2010, 12:42

eagleash wrote:Yes 3 races at the end of 2004. No points, lapped every race. & Renault weren't totally uncompetitive then as they finished third in the constructors (& might have finished second). I think he already had a contract for 2004 with Sauber. Who couldn't have been impressed?

Fixed

eagleash · Post by **eagleash** » 11 Oct 2010, 13:31

Shizuka wrote:
eagleash wrote:Yes 3 races at the end of 2004. No points, lapped every race. & Renault weren't totally uncompetitive then as they finished third in the constructors (& might have finished second). I think he already had a contract for 2005 with Sauber. Who couldn't have been impressed?

Fixed

Yes, thanks, original post fixed properly.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 11 Oct 2010, 19:48

Kimi Raikkonen may well have fitted in well as James Hunt's teammate at Hesketh.

watka · Post by **watka** » 11 Oct 2010, 20:57

dr-baker wrote:Kimi Raikkonen may well have fitted in well as James Hunt's teammate at Hesketh.

Come to think of it, Hunt in a Williams would have been cool.

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 11 Oct 2010, 23:13

eagleash wrote:JV sacked by both BAR Honda & Sauber & THEN they become competitive. What can this mean?

Expert car developer with no speed. Luca Badoer?

noisebox · Post by **noisebox** » 11 Oct 2010, 23:19

Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:Martin Brundle/Luca Badoer- Benetton 1992-1995: Brundle wins 1994 and 1995 fair and square, but is heartbroken by his friend, Senna's death, and promptly retires after a last year with Tyrrell in 1996. Badoer wins the championship in 1998 and 1999, but he too leaves, for Ferrari. Benetton stay until 2002, when the team is sold to Renault.

Senna and Brundle were not friends. Bitter rivals, more like. It all stemmed from a British F3 crash in 1982/3ish...

Jeroen Krautmeir · Post by **Jeroen Krautmeir** » 12 Oct 2010, 00:03

noisebox wrote:
Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:Martin Brundle/Luca Badoer- Benetton 1992-1995: Brundle wins 1994 and 1995 fair and square, but is heartbroken by his friend, Senna's death, and promptly retires after a last year with Tyrrell in 1996. Badoer wins the championship in 1998 and 1999, but he too leaves, for Ferrari. Benetton stay until 2002, when the team is sold to Renault.

Senna and Brundle were not friends. Bitter rivals, more like. It all stemmed from a British F3 crash in 1982/3ish...

But they still respected each other, and that's what matters. It didn't go so out of control like, say, Mansell/Piquet or worse still, Senna/Prost.

My other point, is, that this is my world.

Waris · Post by **Waris** » 15 Oct 2010, 03:33

When thinking about silly seasons and possible future changes, I came to the conclusion that seeing Heikki Kovalainen in a Ferrari would be fun.

Also, Giancarlo Fisichella to McLaren in 2008 instead of Kovalainen.
Adam Carroll in a Super Aguri.
Jacques Villeneuve in a Ferrari.
Giancarlo Fisichella in a Williams (like someone before me said).
Jacques Villeneuve in a Williams, again.
Fernando Alonso in all historical top teams (he's driven for Ferrari, McLaren and Renault, so that would leave Williams and Mercedes).
Sébastien Bourdais in a GOOD team.
Tiago Monteiro in a Williams.
Robert Kubica in a McLaren, or a Ferrari, but preferably a McLaren.
Takuma Sato in a Lotus(-Honda).

madmark1974 · Post by **madmark1974** » 15 Oct 2010, 08:42

I'd love to see Hamilton and Alonso together in a team again fighting each other for wins, maybe Mercedes?

Sutil and Kubica in the same team as I think they'd also push each other to the limit.

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 16 Oct 2010, 12:26

Adrian Sutil at Benetton.. That would have been quite fashion.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 16 Oct 2010, 14:22

Waris wrote:Takuma Sato in a Lotus(-Honda).

Post by **mario** » 16 Oct 2010, 15:11

madmark1974 wrote:I'd love to see Hamilton and Alonso together in a team again fighting each other for wins, maybe Mercedes?

Sutil and Kubica in the same team as I think they'd also push each other to the limit.

Both Hamilton and Alonso have been asked if they would be prepared to drive alongside the other driver in a team (I believe by the BBC). Hamilton said that he would be prepared to accept Alonso as a team mate, but Alonso simply said "No" and refused to be drawn any further on his answer, which is perhaps revealing about the mindset of each of those drivers in the wake of 2007.

Perhaps another interesting pairing would be the one that Murray Walker suggested when asked the same question, which was Nigel Mansell and Alan Jones, as he expected that would be a fairly explosive mix (perhaps literally when you consider that he would have liked to see them both driving the Brabham BT52).

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 16 Oct 2010, 15:23

dr-baker wrote:
Waris wrote:Takuma Sato in a Lotus(-Honda).

Why do I have a CERTAIN feeling about Honda returning as an engine manufacturer when the new engine rules come in?