National minorities in F1

Pointrox · Post by **Pointrox** » 24 May 2010, 12:36

Hello,
inspired by f1-gast's list of Dutch drivers I decided to start the thread with national minorities in F1.
I mean, I will make a list of all the countries who:
- had no more than 10 drivers to compete in F1
- had test drivers, that never advanced to full-time F1 racing
Test drivers who turned full-time racers are in the "Drivers" section.

Chile
Drivers: Eliseo Salazar (1981-1983)

China
Test drivers: Ho-Pin Tung (Renault), Ma Qing Hua (HRT 2012, Caterham 2013)

Colombia
Drivers: Juan Pablo Montoya (Williams 2001-2004, McL 2005-2006), Ricardo Londoño-Bridge (Ensign 1981), Roberto Guerrero (Ensign 1982, Theodore 1983)

Cyprus
Test drivers: Tio Ellinas (Marussia 2012-)

Czech Republic
Drivers: Tomas Enge (Prost 2001)
Test drivers: Jan Charouz (Renault 2010-), Jaroslav Janis (Prost 2001)

Denmark
Drivers: Tom Belsø (Williams 1973-1974), Jac Nelleman (RAM 1976), Nicolas Kiesa (Minardi 2003), Jan Magnussen (McL 1995, Stewart 1997-1998), Kevin Magnussen (McL 2014-)
Test drivers: Tom Kristensen (Minardi 1997, Tyrrell 1998, Michelin-Williams 2000)

Estonia
Test drivers: Marko Asmer (Williams-BMW 2003, BMW Sauber 2008), Kevin Korjus (Renault/Lotus 2011-)

Hungary
Drivers: Zssss... HWNSNBM (Minardi 2004)
Test drivers: Csaba Kesjár (Zakspeed 1987)

India
Drivers: Narain Karthikeyan (Jordan 2005), Karun Chandhok (HRT 2010)

Ireland
Drivers: Ralph Firman (Jordan 2003)
Test drivers: Derek Daly (Williams 1993), Adam Carroll (Honda 2006)

Israel
Test drivers: Chanoch Nissany (Minardi 2003 and 2005, Jordan 2004)

Liechtenstein
Drivers: Rikky von Opel (Ensign 1973-1974, Brabham 1974)

Malaysia
Drivers: Alex Yoong (Minardi 2001-2002)
Test drivers: Fairuz Fauzy (Spyker 2007, Lotus 2010-), Jazeman Jaafar (Williams 2007)

Mexico
Drivers: Esteban Gutierrez (Sauber 2013), Sergio Perez (Sauber 2011-2012, McLaren 2013, Force India 2014-), Hector Rebaque (1977-1981)

Monaco
Drivers: Olivier Beretta (Larrousse 1994), Louis Chiron (1950-1958), Andre Testut (1958–1959)

Pakistan
Test drivers: Adam Khan (official Renault demo driver in 2009)

Poland
Drivers: Robert Kubica (BMW Sauber 2006-2009, Renault 2010-)
Test drivers: Jaroslaw Wierczuk (Forti 1995), Andrzej Jaroszewicz (Wolf 1979), Seweryn Kubacki (McLaren 2004)

Portugal
Drivers: Pedro Lamy (Lotus 1993-1994, Minardi 1995-1996), Pedro Chaves (Coloni 1991), Tiago Monteiro (Jordan 2005), Casimiro de Oliveira (1958), Mario de Araujo Cabral (1959-1960, 1963-1964)
Test drivers: Alvaro Parente (Renault 2008, Virgin 2010-), Antonio Felix da Costa (Red Bull)

Rhodesia
Drivers: John Love (1962-1972), Clive Puzey (1965), Ray Reed (1964-1965), Sam Tingle (1963-1969), Gary Hocking (1962)

Russia
Drivers: Vitaly Petrov (Renault 2010-2011, Caterham 2012), Daniil Kvyat (STR 2014-)
Test drivers: Sergei Zlobin (Minardi 2002), Roman Rusinov (Midland 2006)

Slovakia
Test drivers: Jirko Malcharek (Minardi 2002)

Sweden
Drivers: Stefan Johannson (1980-1991), Ronnie Peterson (1970-1978), Bertil Roos (Shadow 1974), Reine Wisell (1970-1974), Gunnar Nilsson (Lotus 1976-1977), Torsten Palm (1975), Joakim "Jo" Bonnier (1956-1971), Slim Borgudd (ATS 1981, Tyrrell 1982), Conny Anderson (
Test drivers: Kenny Bräck (Williams 1993, Footwork/Ligier 1996), Martin Kudzak (Jaguar 2003), Bjorn Wirdheim (BAR/Jordan 2003, Jaguar 2004)

Thailand
Drivers: Prince Bira (1950-1954)

Uruguay
Drivers: Eitel Cantoni (1952), Oscar Gonzalez (1956), Asdrubal Fontes Bayardo (1959), Alberto Uria (1955-1956)

Venezuela
Drivers: Pastor Maldonado (Williams 2011-2013, Lotus 2014-), Johnny Cecotto (Theodore 1983, Toleman 1984), Ettore Chimeri (1959-1960)

midgrid · Post by **midgrid** » 24 May 2010, 14:14

Pointrox wrote:Poland
Drivers: Robert Kubica (BMW Sauber 2006-2009, Renault 2010-)
Test drivers: Jaroslaw Wierczuk (Forti 1995)

Andrzej Jaroszewicz (Wolf 1979)

Pointrox · Post by **Pointrox** » 24 May 2010, 15:05

Well, I didn't mention that one because it wasn't an official test (Walter Wolf was invited for the opening of Poznan Circuit, by the prime minister, Andrzej's father, and he brought the car with him to give prime minister's son a ride). But so be it

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 24 May 2010, 15:28

Not sure if he actually tested or not but at least he was signed as a test driver:

http://www.driverdb.com/drivers/22969/career/

Ho-Pin Tung should be added.

Pointrox · Post by **Pointrox** » 24 May 2010, 15:35

Bleu wrote:Not sure if he actually tested or not but at least he was signed as a test driver:

http://www.driverdb.com/drivers/22969/career/

Yes, he did. Here you have his full story:
http://www.czsk.net/svet/clanky/osobnos ... harek.html
And his photos in Minardi suit and in the car

Post by **Nuppiz** » 24 May 2010, 15:55

Uhh...Sweden had a few more drivers than that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Swedish_Formula_One_drivers

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 24 May 2010, 16:03

Nuppiz wrote:Uhh...Sweden had a few more drivers than that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Swedish_Formula_One_drivers

You can't forget Ronnie Peterson.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 24 May 2010, 16:05

redbulljack14 wrote:
Nuppiz wrote:Uhh...Sweden had a few more drivers than that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Swedish_Formula_One_drivers

You can't forget Ronnie Peterson.

Or Slim Borgudd, for that matter.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 24 May 2010, 16:49

Apparently Csaba Kesjár was destined to be something big in the future...he was Michael Schumacher-dominant in every series he entered, but he was killed in 1988 on the Norisring round of the German F3, where he was doing promisingly well. Apparently that same day he didn't have any desire to race and was even forced to step on the car...

midgrid · Post by **midgrid** » 24 May 2010, 16:50

Pointrox wrote:
Sweden
Drivers: Stefan Johannson (1980-1991), Ronnie Peterson (1970-1978)
Test drivers: Kenny Bräck (Williams 1993, Footwork/Ligier 1996), Martin Kudzak (Jaguar 2003)

Thomas Danielsson, Bjorn Wirdheim and Alx Danielsson all spring to mind as test drivers.

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 24 May 2010, 18:13

What about the great Gunnar Nilsson?

Enforcer · Post by **Enforcer** » 24 May 2010, 18:16

Ireland
Drivers: Ralph Firman (Jordan 2003)
Test drivers: Derek Daly (Williams 1993), Adam Carroll (Honda 2006)

We've had more race drivers than that.

Drivers:
Joe Kelly (Private entries in 1950 and 51 - there's one to research for the site)
Derek Daly (1978-1982 with, Hesketh, Ensign,Tyrell, March, Theodore and Williams)
David Kennedy (Shadow, 1980)
Tommy Byrne (Theodore, 1982)
Ralph Firman (Jordan 2003)

Not sure about testers other than Carroll, but I should point out that Carroll's from the North. He's listed as "Irish" on Wiki purely because he represented Ireland at A1GP - I actually don't know whether his racing licence is British or Irish. His own website lists him as 'Northern Irish' too bad the FIA don't recognise that as a nationality Adam. If he gets onto an IndyCar podium, we'll see what flag they hoist.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 24 May 2010, 18:27

Enforcer wrote:
Drivers:
Joe Kelly (Private entries in 1950 and 51 - there's one to research for the site)

He was Irish, was he? 'Cos I've seen him in results and his name seemed so hilariously plain. I genuinely know 3 Joe Kellys.

Pointrox · Post by **Pointrox** » 24 May 2010, 18:40

Oh dear, maybe I should have left the limitation to the 1980s-2010s?
Don't you think that it's not a minority any more?
I thought of two, three racer drivers and some test drivers. Now it appears that both Sweden and Ireland had lots of drivers in F1

Henceforth, we're limiting the number of F1 full-time drivers to 10.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 24 May 2010, 18:41

Liechtenstein
Rikky Von Opel

Enforcer · Post by **Enforcer** » 24 May 2010, 18:45

shinji wrote:
Enforcer wrote:
Drivers:
Joe Kelly (Private entries in 1950 and 51 - there's one to research for the site)

He was Irish, was he? 'Cos I've seen him in results and his name seemed so hilariously plain. I genuinely know 3 Joe Kellys.

Apparently. Born in Dublin according to Wiki, and in South America to Irish parents according to Autosport. Then lived in England for a while before moving to Dublin he established a collection of rare cars.

Pointrox wrote:Oh dear, maybe I should have left the limitation to the 1980s-2010s?
Don't you think that it's not a minority any more?
I thought of two, three racer drivers and some test drivers. Now it appears that both Sweden and Ireland had lots of drivers
Henceforth, we're limiting the number of F1 full-time drivers to 10.

5 is a lot?

They're all rejects apart from Daly, btw.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 24 May 2010, 18:46

Luxemburg
gachot was born in luxemburg, and was luxemburgian basically until his career started. As he races under both french and belgian license, it's better to say he was luxemburgian.

Pointrox · Post by **Pointrox** » 24 May 2010, 18:46

Enforcer wrote:
5 is a lot?

They're all rejects apart from Daly, btw.

That's quite much, as for my expectations

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 24 May 2010, 18:48

you can add colombia and denmark too, i'm going to eat something so you'll have to search for yourself

how many rhodesians where there actually?
nothing better for statistics than a country that doesn't exist anymore 8-)

(although i would like some drivers from zimbabwe

)

Pointrox · Post by **Pointrox** » 24 May 2010, 18:51

This wrote:you can add colombia and denmark too, i'm going to eat something so you'll have to search for yourself

how many rhodesians where there actually?
nothing better for statistics than a country that doesn't exist anymore (although i would like some drivers from zimbabwe )

According to Wikipedia, five drivers - and the last one, John Love, was racing for the last time in 1972.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 24 May 2010, 19:51

Guerrero and cecotto ara also colombian

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 24 May 2010, 19:54

+ pavlovic is serbian, not slovakian

watka · Post by **watka** » 24 May 2010, 21:30

Ricardo Londono-Bridge was Colombian!

Louis Chiron was also Monegasque.

Portugal doesn't have many to my knowledge: Pedro Chaves, Pedro Lamy, Tiago Monteiro, and Alvaro Parente (very briefly)

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 25 May 2010, 10:16

watka wrote:Ricardo Londono-Bridge was Colombian!

Louis Chiron was also Monegasque.

Portugal doesn't have many to my knowledge: Pedro Chaves, Pedro Lamy, Tiago Monteiro, and Alvaro Parente (very briefly)

And Mario de Araujo Cabral.

pablo_h · Post by **pablo_h** » 25 May 2010, 11:15

I was going to include another british colony since rhodesia is mentioned :lol:

I though there was only about 6 australian f1 drivers, I'm surprised there seems to have been more like 16!

But I learnt something today at least, this guy sounds awesome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Gaze

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 25 May 2010, 12:29

Enforcer wrote:
Ireland
Drivers: Ralph Firman (Jordan 2003)
Test drivers: Derek Daly (Williams 1993), Adam Carroll (Honda 2006)

We've had more race drivers than that.

Drivers:
Joe Kelly (Private entries in 1950 and 51 - there's one to research for the site)
Derek Daly (1978-1982 with, Hesketh, Ensign,Tyrell, March, Theodore and Williams)
David Kennedy (Shadow, 1980)
Tommy Byrne (Theodore, 1982)
Ralph Firman (Jordan 2003)

Not sure about testers other than Carroll, but I should point out that Carroll's from the North. He's listed as "Irish" on Wiki purely because he represented Ireland at A1GP - I actually don't know whether his racing licence is British or Irish. His own website lists him as 'Northern Irish' too bad the FIA don't recognise that as a nationality Adam. If he gets onto an IndyCar podium, we'll see what flag they hoist.

I watched Adam Carroll win the A1 GP title at Brands in the only year Team GB did not come third in the championship - and was glad someone from the UK won...

And when I first saw the list I assumed Ireland was going to include both the Republic and the Northern parts and wondered where Irvine was, but realised later that in context, only the Republic was intended...

Enforcer · Post by **Enforcer** » 25 May 2010, 15:30

Been at least 3 full drivers from Northern Ireland - Irvine, Watson and Donnelly. All reg'd as British by the FIA.

Ed24 · Post by **Ed24** » 25 May 2010, 16:07

Tom Kristensen is another one for Denmark. He tested for Tyrrell in 1998 and Michelin in 2000.

midgrid · Post by **midgrid** » 25 May 2010, 16:57

Ed24 wrote:Tom Kristensen is another one for Denmark. He tested for Tyrrell in 1998 and Michelin in 2000.

And Minardi in 1997.

Pointrox · Post by **Pointrox** » 25 May 2010, 17:42

Ed24 wrote:Tom Kristensen is another one for Denmark. He tested for Tyrrell in 1998 and Michelin in 2000.

What car was used by Michelin in 2000?

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 25 May 2010, 17:44

Pointrox wrote:
Ed24 wrote:Tom Kristensen is another one for Denmark. He tested for Tyrrell in 1998 and Michelin in 2000.

What car was used by Michelin in 2000?

A tired old car.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 25 May 2010, 18:31

Old Williams (1998 or 1999)

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 25 May 2010, 22:16

Pointrox wrote:
Ed24 wrote:Tom Kristensen is another one for Denmark. He tested for Tyrrell in 1998 and Michelin in 2000.

What car was used by Michelin in 2000?

Williams FW21 (the previous year's car).

SDHammer · Post by **SDHammer** » 26 May 2010, 10:41

This wrote:Guerrero and cecotto ara also colombian

Johnny Cecotto is Venezuelan not Columbian.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 26 May 2010, 19:40

Uruguay
Adzrubal Bayardo (Maserati 1959, DNQ)
Eitel Cantoni (Maserati 1952, 3 races)
Oscar Gonzalez (Maserati 1956, 1 race)
Alberto Uria (Maserati 1955-56, 2 races)

Venezuela
Johnny Cecotto (Theodore 1983, Toleman 1984, 18 races, 1 point
Ettore Chimeri (Maserati 1960, 1 race)

Test driver:
Ernesto Viso (Spyker MF1, 2006)

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 28 May 2010, 22:03

SDHammer wrote:
This wrote:Guerrero and cecotto ara also colombian

Johnny Cecotto is Venezuelan not Columbian.

i wasn't sure, thanks, i knew it was from a south american county with a red-blue-and-yellow flag though

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 28 May 2010, 22:28

This wrote:
SDHammer wrote:
This wrote:Guerrero and cecotto ara also colombian

Johnny Cecotto is Venezuelan not Columbian.

i wasn't sure, thanks, i knew it was from a south american county with a red-blue-and-yellow flag though

In your defense, there's a lot of those.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 29 May 2010, 13:09

What about Gunnar Nilsson for Sweden?

Mischa · Post by **Mischa** » 11 Sep 2013, 18:30

I don't think Martin Kudzak ever tested an F1-car. He did however have his picture taken while sitting in a Jaguar show car. In any case, he was 15 at the time, so a proper test, or even a straighlinetest would have been highly unlikely.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 11 Sep 2013, 19:52

Pointrox wrote:Hello,

Czech Republic
Drivers: Tomas Enge (Prost 2001)
Test drivers: Jan Charouz (Renault 2010-), Jaroslav Janis (Prost 2001)

Denmark
Drivers: Tom Belsø (Williams 1973-1974), Jac Nelleman (RAM 1976), Nicolas Kiesa (Minardi 2003), Jan Magnussen (McL 1995, Stewart 1997-1998)
Test drivers: Jan Charouz (Renault 2010-), Jaroslav Janis (Prost 2001), Tom Kristensen (Minardi 1997, Tyrrell 1998, Michelin-Williams 2000)

Just noticed two drivers being listed under two different nationalities. Both Czech, I assume...