Rome GP

eagleash · Post by **eagleash** » 11 Sep 2010, 11:48

According to the BBC F1 website (via speed.com) an agreement has been signed for a Rome GP possibly in 2012.

http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/ ... -contract/

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 11 Sep 2010, 13:08

eagleash wrote:According to the BBC F1 website (via speed.com) an agreement has been signed for a Rome GP possibly in 2012.

http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/ ... -contract/

That's intriguing. I think Autosport isn't reporting it yet, which is even more intriguing.

I guess the fact is, Bernie needs to pay his debts and anyone who promises big money has his attention.

eagleash · Post by **eagleash** » 11 Sep 2010, 13:30

CarlosFerreira wrote:
eagleash wrote:According to the BBC F1 website (via speed.com) an agreement has been signed for a Rome GP possibly in 2012.

http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/ ... -contract/

That's intriguing. I think Autosport isn't reporting it yet, which is even more intriguing.

I guess the fact is, Bernie needs to pay his debts and anyone who promises big money has his attention.

No,nor Collantine, crash.net or any of the other offerings via google reader. F1.fanatic/Autosport poss. focussing on quali etc.
Await developments.

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 11 Sep 2010, 13:38

We've crossed this path before haven't we?

Rome gp was rumoured earlier this year...

As much as a london gp, or a Red square gp.

eagleash · Post by **eagleash** » 11 Sep 2010, 14:00

ADx_Wales wrote:We've crossed this path before haven't we?

Rome gp was rumoured earlier this year...

As much as a london gp, or a Red square gp.

Very true,

but this report says an agreement has been signed. But as you hint at, it may yet be conjecture as none of the other sites seem to have picked up on it so far.

Edit. motorsport.com (not always the most reliable site) are also saying that an agreement has "reportedly" been signed.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 11 Sep 2010, 14:31

Will they use this layout?

watka · Post by **watka** » 11 Sep 2010, 15:30

I don't know why GT ever got rid of Rome Night

J Washburn Stoker · Post by **J Washburn Stoker** » 11 Sep 2010, 15:52

ADx_Wales wrote:We've crossed this path before haven't we?

Rome gp was rumoured earlier this year...

As much as a london gp, or a Red square gp.

It was "confirmed" by Ecclestone in March.

P_Friesacher · Post by **P_Friesacher** » 11 Sep 2010, 15:59

J Washburn Stoker wrote:It was "confirmed" by Ecclestone in March.

And in december

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 11 Sep 2010, 16:11

The Rome in GTs 2 and 3 would be too narrow, if not the same width as the Citta Di Aria GT4 layout......now theres an idea.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 11 Sep 2010, 16:29

We'll see about this when the track is designed. Who is designing the track anyways?

P_Friesacher · Post by **P_Friesacher** » 11 Sep 2010, 17:04

I don't know. But if you believe the italien media (big if), a planned layout already exists.
http://f1grandprix.motorionline.com/gp- ... nque-anni/
Google Streetview has already mapped the area and it seems quite OK, a lot less sterile than many other recent venues.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 13 Sep 2010, 11:21

A few years ago, it was announced that the British Grand Prix would be at Donington Park, with the announcement being made over the British Grand Prix weekend.
This year, it was (apparently) announced that a Roman Grand Prix would take place, with the announcement being made over the Italian Grand Prix weekend.

I think Bernie is playing games. Or else old news stories are being recycled (as already suggested above). I'll only believe it when Autosport and/or autosport.com report it.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 14 Sep 2010, 00:37

P_Friesacher wrote:I don't know. But if you believe the italien media (big if), a planned layout already exists.
http://f1grandprix.motorionline.com/gp- ... nque-anni/
Google Streetview has already mapped the area and it seems quite OK, a lot less sterile than many other recent venues.

It looks horrible!!!

Captain Hammer · Post by **Captain Hammer** » 14 Sep 2010, 01:27

P_Friesacher wrote:I don't know. But if you believe the italien media (big if), a planned layout already exists

That layout was floated ages ago.

TimmyB · Post by **TimmyB** » 14 Sep 2010, 03:34

Maybe the journalist misheard it as "Rrohh-mmaa-grrn-pri" when in fact Bernie was talking about the return of "Rrohh-mmaa-grrn-jjeann" !

f1-gast · Post by **f1-gast** » 14 Sep 2010, 06:45

Why no race in the vatican ?

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 14 Sep 2010, 07:55

f1-gast wrote:Why no race in the vatican ?

Pit babes.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 14 Sep 2010, 08:27

CarlosFerreira wrote:
f1-gast wrote:Why no race in the vatican ?

Pit babes.

f1-gast · Post by **f1-gast** » 14 Sep 2010, 08:33

CarlosFerreira wrote:
f1-gast wrote:Why no race in the vatican ?

Pit babes.

Well i know some movies where you see also those nons and they are well... say their a bit naughty !

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 14 Sep 2010, 08:52

f1-gast wrote:
CarlosFerreira wrote:
f1-gast wrote:Why no race in the vatican ?

Pit babes.

Well i know some movies where you see also those nons and they are well... say their a bit naughty !

I see. You must be really popular in your local DVD shop.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 14 Sep 2010, 08:55

CarlosFerreira wrote:
f1-gast wrote:
CarlosFerreira wrote:
Pit babes.

Well i know some movies where you see also those nons and they are well... say their a bit naughty !

I see. You must be really popular in your local DVD shop.

*Insert quote by Jeremy Clarkson about the Dutch here*

Faustus · Post by **Faustus** » 14 Sep 2010, 09:30

Should this new race use the layout proposed a few (or more than a few) months ago, it might be actually be alright. I've actually walked the proposed layout of the track, in the EUR district of Rome, last October when I went there on holiday. Most of it is pretty wide, but a couple of areas are a bit tight.

cretoxyrhina · Post by **cretoxyrhina** » 14 Sep 2010, 09:54

Can we have this, please? 8-)

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 14 Sep 2010, 11:32

CarlosFerreira wrote:
f1-gast wrote:Why no race in the vatican ?

Pit babes.

Pit nuns, then

And the Popemobile as SC :lol:

cretoxyrhina wrote:

That circuit looks quite mickey mousey.

Yannick · Post by **Yannick** » 14 Sep 2010, 11:59

Rome has a huge history in oval racing. Circus Maximus used to be the premier racing facility in the world for probably even longer than the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. F1 is not suited to ovals. Hence, I'd say let's run F1 in Monza and Mugello and hire the IZOD IndyCar Series to fulfill the Rome GP contract. With their considerable oval experience, they are the only ones who are capable of staging an event that the Roman audiences will enjoy. :mrgreen:

watka · Post by **watka** » 14 Sep 2010, 12:12

Yannick wrote:Rome has a huge history in oval racing. Circus Maximus used to be the premier racing facility in the world for probably even longer than the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. F1 is not suited to ovals. Hence, I'd say let's run F1 in Monza and Mugello and hire the IZOD IndyCar Series to fulfill the Rome GP contract. With their considerable oval experience, they are the only ones who are capable of staging an event that the Roman audiences will enjoy.

Silvio Berlusconi sitting high up in the stands, giving the thumbs down to any non-Ferrari driver and releasing the lions...

Whis · Post by **Whis** » 14 Sep 2010, 12:27

watka wrote:
Yannick wrote:Rome has a huge history in oval racing. Circus Maximus used to be the premier racing facility in the world for probably even longer than the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. F1 is not suited to ovals. Hence, I'd say let's run F1 in Monza and Mugello and hire the IZOD IndyCar Series to fulfill the Rome GP contract. With their considerable oval experience, they are the only ones who are capable of staging an event that the Roman audiences will enjoy.

Silvio Berlusconi sitting high up in the stands, giving the thumbs down to any non-Ferrari driver and releasing the lions...

what an horrible image. quite terrifying.

f1-gast · Post by **f1-gast** » 14 Sep 2010, 12:35

Isn't berlusconi the son of Mussolini ?
I see it, Berlusconi on the podium with his mafia face in mafia clothes saying something when non italian drivers come to the podium.
Solo le squadre italiane e piloti ammessi

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 14 Sep 2010, 21:33

f1-gast wrote:Isn't berlusconi the son of Mussolini ?

Erm, no.

JeanDenisAlcatraz · Post by **JeanDenisAlcatraz** » 14 Sep 2010, 22:17

Phoenix wrote:
f1-gast wrote:Isn't berlusconi the son of Mussolini ?

Erm, no.

Metaphorically.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 14 Sep 2010, 22:26

JeanDenisAlcatraz wrote:
Phoenix wrote:
f1-gast wrote:Isn't berlusconi the son of Mussolini ?

Erm, no.

Metaphorically.

Still no.

Post by **mario** » 15 Sep 2010, 11:56

Phoenix wrote:
f1-gast wrote:Isn't berlusconi the son of Mussolini ?

Erm, no.

No, Berlusconi is not related to Mussolini, although he does spend a fair amount of his time making appeals to the far right (as well as the nationalist fringe, like Lega Norda) to support his government. If anything, the man who has been closer to Mussolini would be Fini (the man who is currently trying to beat Berlusconi), who is a former Fascist, although that was a long time ago, and he has since repudiated those on the far right.

watka wrote:
Yannick wrote:Rome has a huge history in oval racing. Circus Maximus used to be the premier racing facility in the world for probably even longer than the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. F1 is not suited to ovals. Hence, I'd say let's run F1 in Monza and Mugello and hire the IZOD IndyCar Series to fulfill the Rome GP contract. With their considerable oval experience, they are the only ones who are capable of staging an event that the Roman audiences will enjoy.

Silvio Berlusconi sitting high up in the stands, giving the thumbs down to any non-Ferrari driver and releasing the lions...

Sorry to give the history lesson here, but the Romans never used the "thumbs down" sign to signify death - in fact, "thumbs up" was the sign to execute someone, whilst the sign to spare someone was a clenched fist (because the extended thumb represented a drawn sword, whilst the closed fist, with the thumb folded inside it, represented a sheathed sword). In addition, it would be quite expensive to train and equip a gladiator, and gladiatorial fights were often designed to be displays of skill and swordsmanship, so it would be rare for a gladiator to be executed.

Back on topic though - if we are to have a Rome GP, where would they fit it into the calendar? Logically, I can think of two possible time slots - either between the Monaco and Turkish GP's, so the teams could go from Monaco to Rome via truck and/or cargo ship, then across to the Adriatic coast and onto a cargo ship for Istanbul, or, alternatively, before or after Monza (although the Monza circuit owners might be uncomfortable about a Rome GP being so close to their race). The former would probably see the race held some time around May, whilst the latter would probably be in September, which sound like sensible times during the year to hold a race.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 15 Sep 2010, 12:03

mario wrote:Back on topic though - if we are to have a Rome GP, where would they fit it into the calendar? Logically, I can think of two possible time slots - either between the Monaco and Turkish GP's, so the teams could go from Monaco to Rome via truck and/or cargo ship, then across to the Adriatic coast and onto a cargo ship for Istanbul, or, alternatively, before or after Monza (although the Monza circuit owners might be uncomfortable about a Rome GP being so close to their race). The former would probably see the race held some time around May, whilst the latter would probably be in September, which sound like sensible times during the year to hold a race.

So you're suggesting that the Roman GP would fit in approximately where the San Marino GP used to be? Makes sense to me...

JeanDenisAlcatraz · Post by **JeanDenisAlcatraz** » 15 Sep 2010, 14:49

dr-baker wrote:
mario wrote:Back on topic though - if we are to have a Rome GP, where would they fit it into the calendar? Logically, I can think of two possible time slots - either between the Monaco and Turkish GP's, so the teams could go from Monaco to Rome via truck and/or cargo ship, then across to the Adriatic coast and onto a cargo ship for Istanbul, or, alternatively, before or after Monza (although the Monza circuit owners might be uncomfortable about a Rome GP being so close to their race). The former would probably see the race held some time around May, whilst the latter would probably be in September, which sound like sensible times during the year to hold a race.

So you're suggesting that the Roman GP would fit in approximately where the San Marino GP used to be? Makes sense to me...

Going back to an original-shape Imola for the San Marino GP makes even more sense to me. I really miss the first-lap run up to and around Tosa

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 15 Sep 2010, 18:01

JeanDenisAlcatraz wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
mario wrote:Back on topic though - if we are to have a Rome GP, where would they fit it into the calendar? Logically, I can think of two possible time slots - either between the Monaco and Turkish GP's, so the teams could go from Monaco to Rome via truck and/or cargo ship, then across to the Adriatic coast and onto a cargo ship for Istanbul, or, alternatively, before or after Monza (although the Monza circuit owners might be uncomfortable about a Rome GP being so close to their race). The former would probably see the race held some time around May, whilst the latter would probably be in September, which sound like sensible times during the year to hold a race.

So you're suggesting that the Roman GP would fit in approximately where the San Marino GP used to be? Makes sense to me...

Going back to an original-shape Imola for the San Marino GP makes even more sense to me. I really miss the first-lap run up to and around Tosa

True.

eytl · Post by **eytl** » 16 Sep 2010, 00:44

cretoxyrhina wrote:Can we have this, please?

Sorry everyone, this is completely and utterly off-topic, but can I just say, I really like cretoxyrhina's avatar. Awesome photo ... must have been a brilliant photographer.

Yes, I took the photo.

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 16 Sep 2010, 07:24

eytl wrote:
cretoxyrhina wrote:Can we have this, please?

Sorry everyone, this is completely and utterly off-topic, but can I just say, I really like cretoxyrhina's avatar. Awesome photo ... must have been a brilliant photographer.

Yes, I took the photo.

Senior Grand Prix Analyst and F1Rejects Forum Vanity Specialist Enoch Law, everybody.

eytl · Post by **eytl** » 16 Sep 2010, 10:52

thehemogoblin wrote:Senior Grand Prix Analyst and F1Rejects Forum Vanity Specialist Enoch Law, everybody.

Makes a change from the usual self-deprecation!

cretoxyrhina · Post by **cretoxyrhina** » 16 Sep 2010, 23:17

eytl wrote:
cretoxyrhina wrote:Sorry everyone, this is completely and utterly off-topic, but can I just say, I really like cretoxyrhina's avatar. Awesome photo ... must have been a brilliant photographer.

Yes, I took the photo.

That photo's your taken? Sorry, eytl, for not taking you premission beforehands...

I'm looking for Satrio Hermanto photos, and that photo just pictures him very well (let's face it, he's the most rubbish from all of the A1 Team Indonesia drivers)