Abu Dhabi Circuit

[Kobacrashi]

After hearing whitmarsh and others moaning about the lack of overtaking at the Yas Marina circuit i had a brainwave, or something similar.

Simply Run the circuit in reverse and all the long straights to medium speed corners would be reversed and the hairpin would then become an overtaking spot. Also the first backwards sector would be interesting.

[P_Friesacher]

Sadly, there is no runoff in any corners in the "city circuit"-part of the track (the part before start in finish) in this configuration. And, in contrast to Korea, there are actual buildings where the runoff might be. So, probably, no. Sounds nice, though.

[Captain Hammer]

[Henrique]

Looking at that image, it does look a bit basic. From what I saw in the race, I think it has too many long straights.

[eagleash]

Looking at that image, it does look a bit basic. From what I saw in the race, I think it has too many long straights.

Can you have too many long straights?

Places where a faster car might be able to close on a slower one + a bit of slip-streaming?

[QuickYoda41]

Sadly, there is no runoff in any corners in the "city circuit"-part of the track (the part before start in finish) in this configuration. And, in contrast to Korea, there are actual buildings where the runoff might be. So, probably, no. Sounds nice, though.

It would be only a problem after the start, wouldn't it?
Because then we have the solution by using the other grid and pits in the middle of the circuit.

Though I think the circuit isn't that bad (maybe they could cut off the Schumacher-Liuzzi corner as they did after the accident in 2 or 3 laps), Kubica could eventually overtake twice and last year we saw some action from Kobayashi, too.

[Jordan192]

Can you have too many long straights?

Places where a faster car might be able to close on a slower one + a bit of slip-streaming?

But they're also places where a faster car will pull away if it's the one in front - hence Alonso's trouble last sunday.
The problem is that the two overtaking points are both at the end of very long straights, so a car that's strong in the twisties has no chance.
Simply ditching the chicane before the hairpin could work, as a car that's been quicker in the twisty section will still be close as they come into the braking zone for it. The current chicane isn't enough of a stop to make a reasonable go at it, and then makes things worse by virtually guaranteeing that you have to go into the hairpin line astern.

[ADx_Wales]

You do realise that the chicane is there to stop any brake failures flying into the stands, I can see the earlier chicane being used.

Thats what happens when someone creates a Monaco in the east, you get a Monaco in the middle east.

[Myrvold]

Well, tbh, with a brake failure there, you are pretty much doomed anyway,

[Phoenix]

I think the whole thing is flawed. Just build a posh shopping mall there, it'll be a much more profitable and entertaining business.

[eagleash]

Can you have too many long straights?

Places where a faster car might be able to close on a slower one + a bit of slip-streaming?

But they're also places where a faster car will pull away if it's the one in front

A faster car might pull away from a slower one. In Motor Racing! Who'd have thought it.

[Cynon]

Sadly, there is no runoff in any corners in the "city circuit"-part of the track (the part before start in finish) in this configuration. And, in contrast to Korea, there are actual buildings where the runoff might be. So, probably, no. Sounds nice, though.

Oh ffs, the less runoff the better...

[P_Friesacher]

Oh ffs, the less runoff the better...

As they liked to say in Montjuïc

[Aerospeed]

It's not as bad as Singapore and Valencia, but it's one of those tracks that cannot be fixed easily.

There's one track that can easily replace this:

JEREZ

I hope I explained that easily.

[Myrvold]

And that would be SO much better...

[Captain Hammer]

Well, tbh, with a brake failure there, you are pretty much doomed anyway,

Look at the image again. Specifically, look at the numbering of the corners. The first turn becomes the last turn, because the circuit is now run in reverse. Any brake failures under the grandstand will be at relatively low speed. It's at the other end that you have to worry about; the image is cut off, but I removed the chicane before the hairpint (which now means it is after the hairpin).

[LionZoo]

I think the whole thing is flawed. Just build a posh shopping mall there, it'll be a much more profitable and entertaining business.

Dollars to donuts there already is a posh shopping mall at the circuit.

[muttley]

Well, tbh, with a brake failure there, you are pretty much doomed anyway,

Look at the image again. Specifically, look at the numbering of the corners. The first turn becomes the last turn, because the circuit is now run in reverse. Any brake failures under the grandstand will be at relatively low speed. It's at the other end that you have to worry about; the image is cut off, but I removed the chicane before the hairpint (which now means it is after the hairpin).

So, in your plan, before going into the hairpin (12) the cars run along the straight from (11) to (12), a straight that is 3x longer than the current one (13 to 12), therefore reaching a much higher speed. How is it supposed to solve the problem of failing brakes, exactly?

[Phoenix]

Well, tbh, with a brake failure there, you are pretty much doomed anyway,

Look at the image again. Specifically, look at the numbering of the corners. The first turn becomes the last turn, because the circuit is now run in reverse. Any brake failures under the grandstand will be at relatively low speed. It's at the other end that you have to worry about; the image is cut off, but I removed the chicane before the hairpint (which now means it is after the hairpin).

So, in your plan, before going into the hairpin (12) the cars run along the straight from (11) to (12), a straight that is 3x longer than the current one (13 to 12), therefore reaching a much higher speed. How is it supposed to solve the problem of failing brakes, exactly?

If Derek Daly survived that Zandvoort crash in 1980, I'm sure we don't have to worry about.