The One-Car Championship
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The One-Car Championship
Hi guys, yet another alternative championship for you to enjoy/abhor!
Inspired by the #2 Driver championship, I had the idea of running a championship where only one car from each team scores points. The applies to both the drivers and constructor championships. So if there is a 1-2, the 2nd driver in the team gets no points! That driver gets eliminated from the results and everyone else moves up a place. Basically, this championships gives extra benefit to anyone who follows the first rule of F1; beat your team mate!
I will be using the points systems as per the relevant championship. I however WILL NOT be following the best x number of results rules because a) I'm assuming that drivers will drop enough results for this not to be a problem, and b) I can't be bothered. If anyone is that much of a geek ( ) I can e-mail them the spreadsheets. Also the Indy 500 will not count, and drivers must actually finish the race to score points; a double DNF for a team means no points for either driver regardless of whether all the points paying positions are filled.
CHAMPIONS:
Italics indicate a different champion to real life
Drivers:
2010 - Fernando Alonso (Ferrari)
2009 - Jenson Button (Brawn-Mercedes)
2008 - Lewis Hamilton (McLaren-Mercedes)
2007 - Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari)
2006 - Fernando Alonso (Renault)
2005 - Fernando Alonso (Renault)
2004 - Michael Schumacher (Ferrari)
2003 - Kimi Raikkonen (McLaren-Mercedes)
2002 - Michael Schumacher (Ferrari)
2001 - Michael Schumacher (Ferrari)
2000 - Michael Schumacher (Ferrari)
1999 - Mika Hakkinen (McLaren-Mercedes)
1998 - Mika Hakkinen (McLaren-Mercedes)
1997 - Jacques Villeneuve (Williams-Renault)
1996 - Damon Hill (Williams-Renault)
1995 - Michael Schumacher (Benetton-Renault)
1994 - Damon Hill (Williams-Renault)
1993 - Alain Prost (Williams-Renault)
1992 - Nigel Mansell (Williams-Renault)
1991 - Ayrton Senna (McLaren-Honda)
Constructors:
2010 - Red Bull-Renault
2009 - Brawn-Mercedes
2008 - McLaren-Mercedes
2007 - Ferrari
2006 - Renault
2005 - McLaren-Mercedes
2004 - Ferrari
2003 - Ferrari
2002 - Ferrari
2001 - Ferrari
2000 - Ferrari
1999 - McLaren-Mercedes
1998 - McLaren-Mercedes
1997 - Williams-Renault
1996 - Williams-Renault
1995 - Benetton-Renault
1994 - Williams-Renault
1993 - Williams-Renault
1992 - Williams-Renault
1991 - McLaren-Honda
Inspired by the #2 Driver championship, I had the idea of running a championship where only one car from each team scores points. The applies to both the drivers and constructor championships. So if there is a 1-2, the 2nd driver in the team gets no points! That driver gets eliminated from the results and everyone else moves up a place. Basically, this championships gives extra benefit to anyone who follows the first rule of F1; beat your team mate!
I will be using the points systems as per the relevant championship. I however WILL NOT be following the best x number of results rules because a) I'm assuming that drivers will drop enough results for this not to be a problem, and b) I can't be bothered. If anyone is that much of a geek ( ) I can e-mail them the spreadsheets. Also the Indy 500 will not count, and drivers must actually finish the race to score points; a double DNF for a team means no points for either driver regardless of whether all the points paying positions are filled.
CHAMPIONS:
Italics indicate a different champion to real life
Drivers:
2010 - Fernando Alonso (Ferrari)
2009 - Jenson Button (Brawn-Mercedes)
2008 - Lewis Hamilton (McLaren-Mercedes)
2007 - Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari)
2006 - Fernando Alonso (Renault)
2005 - Fernando Alonso (Renault)
2004 - Michael Schumacher (Ferrari)
2003 - Kimi Raikkonen (McLaren-Mercedes)
2002 - Michael Schumacher (Ferrari)
2001 - Michael Schumacher (Ferrari)
2000 - Michael Schumacher (Ferrari)
1999 - Mika Hakkinen (McLaren-Mercedes)
1998 - Mika Hakkinen (McLaren-Mercedes)
1997 - Jacques Villeneuve (Williams-Renault)
1996 - Damon Hill (Williams-Renault)
1995 - Michael Schumacher (Benetton-Renault)
1994 - Damon Hill (Williams-Renault)
1993 - Alain Prost (Williams-Renault)
1992 - Nigel Mansell (Williams-Renault)
1991 - Ayrton Senna (McLaren-Honda)
Constructors:
2010 - Red Bull-Renault
2009 - Brawn-Mercedes
2008 - McLaren-Mercedes
2007 - Ferrari
2006 - Renault
2005 - McLaren-Mercedes
2004 - Ferrari
2003 - Ferrari
2002 - Ferrari
2001 - Ferrari
2000 - Ferrari
1999 - McLaren-Mercedes
1998 - McLaren-Mercedes
1997 - Williams-Renault
1996 - Williams-Renault
1995 - Benetton-Renault
1994 - Williams-Renault
1993 - Williams-Renault
1992 - Williams-Renault
1991 - McLaren-Honda
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By the way, do I really have to type out the standings, or is there a way to copy a table into a forum post?
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watka wrote:By the way, do I really have to type out the standings, or is there a way to copy a table into a forum post?
use (code)Table Content(/code) tags - but replace () with [] obviously.
Just a quick example I have to hand, my squad in manager mode on Fifa...
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DAGENHAM & REDBRIDGE
2010/11 SQUAD
NO POS NAME NAT OVR AGE PRICE FROM DATE STATUS
1 GK Lukasz Fabianski POL (82) 25 £850,000 Arsenal Aug 09
2 CB Simon Ireland AUS (90) 20 £1,100,000 Adelaide United Aug 09
4 CDM Ludovic Asuar FRA (69) 33 £20,000 AC Ajaccio Aug 08
5 LB Pierre Womé CAM (79) 31 £FREE 1. FC Köln Aug 10
6 CAM Kim Källström SWE (86) 28 £FREE Lyon Aug 10
7 CM John Obi Mikel NIG (91) 23 £3,100,000 Chelsea Aug 09
9 CF Alexander Farneurd SWE (76) 26 £FREE Brøndby IF Aug 10
12 ST Andrea Caracciolo ITA (76) 28 £FREE Brescia Aug 10
13 CAM Carlos Alberto BRA (83) 25 £FREE Vasco Da Gama Aug 09
14 GK Martin Östlind SWE (83) 23 £700,000 N/A Feb 10
15 LWB Gilberto Do Carmo BRA (82) 18 £1,800,000 Sport Recife Aug 10
NA GK Jérémy Gavanon FRA (69) 26 £90,000 FC Sochaux Jan 09 OUT ON LOAN [Sheffield United]
16 LM Joe Ledley WAL (77) 23 £250,000 Cardiff City Jan 10
17 CB Cala ESP (80) 20 £60,000 Sevilla FC Aug 09
18 CDM Nenad Kovacevic SER (78) 29 £FREE RC Lens Aug 10
19 CF Danny Wellbeck ENG (69) 19 £280,000 Manchester United Aug 10
20 CB Slobodan Rajkovic SER (88) 21 £190,000 Chelsea Aug 08
21 ST Gonzalo Higuaín ARG (81) 22 £3,500,000 Real Madrid Aug 10
25 RF Thomas Müller GER (71) 20 £100,000 FC Bayern Munich Aug 09
26 CM Yoann Gourcuff FRA (92) 24 £890,000 FC Bordeaux Jan 09
28 GK Albert Jorquera ESP (76) 30 £180,000 FC Barcelona Jan 09
29 LB Ibrahima Sory Camara GUI (84) 25 £630,000 Le Mans UC72 Jan 09
34 CB Mark Arber RSA (63) 33 N/A N/A N/A
37 RM Mauro Camoranesi ITA (86) 33 £FREE Juventus Aug 10
39 RB Davide Santon ITA (69) 19 £115,000 Internazionale Jan 10
41 ST Federico Macheda ITA (75) 19 £110,000 Manchester United Jan 09
43 ST Piergiuseppe Maritato ITA (86) 21 £190,000 ACF Fiorentina Aug 08
49 CM Yaya Toure COT (89) 27 £FREE FC Barcelona Aug 09
51 CB Marc Torrejón ESP (85) 24 £FREE Racing de Santander Aug 09
56 CB Zé Castro POR (78) 27 £FREE Deportivo La Coruna Aug 10
87 CM Teko Modise RSA (86) 27 £FREE Orlando Pirates Aug 09
96 ST Libor Došek SER (71) 32 £FREE Sparta Prague Jan 10
When you first paste it into the text box when posting it all looks messy and unaligned...just make sure you paste it into Notepad first and align it all properly before pasting it into here.
Re: The One-Car Championship
So is this where, say - in this year's German GP, Ferrari would have said to Massa "OK, we want Fernando to score our teams' points this time"!!! Could be interesting!!!
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Re: The One-Car Championship
I actually thought of doing something similar a while ago - but instead of just one driver scoring, have the two drivers share a car along the lines of sportscar racing. (It would need some thought as to how the points would work (both drivers scoring the same points for their position or not, for example) and what would happen when a team enters more than two drivers as happened in years gone by. I'm still up for trying this method if I have time, and any ideas would be appreciated.)
Sorry to hijack the thread slightly - carry on.
Sorry to hijack the thread slightly - carry on.
Forza Forti
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Pieman wrote:I actually thought of doing something similar a while ago - but instead of just one driver scoring, have the two drivers share a car along the lines of sportscar racing. (It would need some thought as to how the points would work (both drivers scoring the same points for their position or not, for example) and what would happen when a team enters more than two drivers as happened in years gone by. I'm still up for trying this method if I have time, and any ideas would be appreciated.)
Sorry to hijack the thread slightly - carry on.
Go for it my friend. I'm all up for plagiarism!
Anyway, first up is 2010 (that's what everyone else seems to be doing first). I predicted that Alonso might when this one before I drew up the results, so let's see...
2010
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Driver Team Total Wins 2nds 3rds
Fernando Alonso Ferrari 244 5 5 1
Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 214 5 2 3
Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 213 3 5 2
Robert Kubica Renault 162 - 2 2
Nico Rosberg Mercedes 150 - 2 2
Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 140 4 2 -
Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 114 2 1 2
Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 74 - - 1
Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 66 - - -
Michael Schumacher Mercedes 59 - - 3
Felipe Massa Ferrari 54 - - 2
Kamui Kobayashi BMW Sauber-Ferrari 46 - - -
Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 37 - - -
Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 35 - - -
Nico Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth 34 - - -
Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 31 - - -
Vitaly Petrov Renault 18 - - 1
Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 17 - - -
Pedro de la Rosa BMW Sauber-Ferrari 12 - - -
Karun Chandhok HRT-Cosworth 5 - - -
Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 5 - - -
Lucas di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 5 - - -
Jarno Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 4 - - -
Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber-Ferrari 4 - - -
Bruno Senna HRT-Cosworth 3 - - -
Christian Klien HRT-Cosworth 0 - - -
Sakon Yamamoto HRT-Cosworth 0 - - -
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Red Bull-Renault 354
McLaren-Mercedes 327
Ferrari 298
Mercedes 209
Renault 180
Williams-Cosworth 108
Force India-Mercedes 101
Toro Rosso-Ferrari 68
BMW Sauber-Ferrari 62
Lotus-Cosworth 21
Virgin-Cosworth 10
HRT-Cosworth 8
Indeed, Alonso does win this one, and by a relatively comfortable margin. Fernando raps it up with a 2nd place in Brazil as Red Bull suffer for letting their drivers battle it out for the title. After 10 rounds, Alonso was 40 points behind Hamilton in 6th in the championship. Hamilton's nearest rival at that point was actually Robert Kubica, 23 points behind! Hamilton's retirement saw his championship lead eroded (Japan and Italy being crucial), whilst Alonso scored 1st or 2nd in 5 of the final 6 races. Kubica's challenge fall behind as a few retirements slipped in, whilst Vettel did the opposite. Webber, Button, and Massa particularly suffer, the latter almost being beaten by Kobayashi!
In the constructors, not too much change, but Renault are much closer to Mercedes, and Toro-Rosso surprisingly overtake BMW Sauber (they benefited as they finished just outside the points quite often in real life).
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And Karun Chandok the second best of all new team drivers! Equal on points as the two Virgins, and ahead of all HRTs and a Lotus. To rehash a dying phrase, "Go home, Colin Kolles", or, even better, "Do a better job, Colin Kolles!"
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2009
Jenson Button's early season dominance sees him coast to the 2009 championship. After 7 races, his advantage over 2nd placed Webber was 37.5 points, having taken 6 wins and 1 second. He won the championship at Japan. Going into the race, Raikkonen was his only challenger, and he effectively needed to win the last 3 rounds, with Button not scoring. As it was Kimi Raikkonen could be pleased with 3rd in the championship, dominating the Ferrari partnership after Massa's accident in Hungary. Likewise, Nico Rosberg's total dominance over Nakajima is reflected with 5th place. Barrichello did terribly under this system, as did both McLarens.
Brawn still get the better of Red Bull in the constructors. McLaren suffer badly after some awful results at the start of the season, and losing out on a haul of Kovalainen points later on. Williams leapfrog BMW Sauber, who in turn almost fell into the clutches of Renault, despite a terrible year for the French squad.
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Driver Team Total Wins 2nds 3rds
Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes 88 6 2 -
Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 61 4 1 1
Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 57 1 3 1
Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 53.5 2 2 2
Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 51.5 - - 1
Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 50 2 1 2
Fernando Alonso Renault 44 - - 3
Rubens Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 33 2 1 -
Jarno Trulli Toyota 32 - 2 2
Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 26 - 1 1
Timo Glock Toyota 25 - 1 1
Felipe Massa Ferrari 24 - 1 1
Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 23 - 1 -
Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 19 - - 1
Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 15 - - -
Giancarlo Fisichella Ferrari/Force India-Mercedes 13 - 1 -
Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 10 - - 1
Kamui Kobayashi Toyota 7 - - -
Sebastien Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari 4.5 - - -
Nelson Piquet Jr Renault 3 - - -
Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 3 - - -
Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1 - - -
Luca Badoer Ferrari 0 - - -
Romain Grosjean Renault 0 - - -
Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 0 - - -
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Brawn-Mercedes 121
Red Bull-Renault 114.5
Ferrari 81
McLaren-Mercedes 69
Toyota 64
Williams-Toyota 54.5
BMW Sauber 49
Renault 47
Force India-Mercedes 24
Toro Rosso-Ferrari 19.5
Jenson Button's early season dominance sees him coast to the 2009 championship. After 7 races, his advantage over 2nd placed Webber was 37.5 points, having taken 6 wins and 1 second. He won the championship at Japan. Going into the race, Raikkonen was his only challenger, and he effectively needed to win the last 3 rounds, with Button not scoring. As it was Kimi Raikkonen could be pleased with 3rd in the championship, dominating the Ferrari partnership after Massa's accident in Hungary. Likewise, Nico Rosberg's total dominance over Nakajima is reflected with 5th place. Barrichello did terribly under this system, as did both McLarens.
Brawn still get the better of Red Bull in the constructors. McLaren suffer badly after some awful results at the start of the season, and losing out on a haul of Kovalainen points later on. Williams leapfrog BMW Sauber, who in turn almost fell into the clutches of Renault, despite a terrible year for the French squad.
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I like Heidfeld being infront of Kubica.
And how on earth does Piquet Jr score points? I don't ever recall him being near Alonso!
And how on earth does Piquet Jr score points? I don't ever recall him being near Alonso!
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James1978 wrote:I like Heidfeld being infront of Kubica.
And how on earth does Piquet Jr score points? I don't ever recall him being near Alonso!
2 12ths in GB and Hungary got converted into 7th and 8th. He beat Alonso in GB and Alonso retired in Hungary.
2008
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Driver Team Total Wins 2nds 3rds
Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 92 5 3 2
Felipe Massa Ferrari 89 6 1 2
Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 75 1 4 4
Fernando Alonso Renault 69 2 1 1
Sebastian Vettel Toro-Rosso Ferrari 48 1 - 1
Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 43 - - -
Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 40 2 - 2
Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 39 - 3 -
Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 38 1 1 3
Jarno Trulli Toyota 38 - 1 -
Timo Glock Toyota 31 - 1 1
Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 30 - 1 1
Rubens Barrichello Honda 16 - - 1
Nelson Piquet Jr Renault 13 - 1 -
David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 13 - 1 -
Jenson Button Honda 10 - - -
Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 9 - - -
Sebastien Bourdais Toro-Rosso Ferrari 4 - - -
Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Ferrari 2 - - -
Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 0 - - -
Anthony Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 0 - - -
Adrian Sutil Force India-Ferrari 0 - - -
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McLaren-Mercedes 130
Ferrari 129
BMW Sauber 114
Renault 82
Toyota 69
Red Bull-Renault 56
Toro-Rosso Ferrari 52
Williams-Toyota 39
Honda 26
Force India-Ferrari 2
Super Aguri-Honda 0
No last corner drama at Brazil here. Hamilton has an 8 point advantage (7 in real life) going into the final race, but with Raikkonen's result being eliminated, Hamilton wouldn't have needed to pass Glock with Trulli and Kovalainen both behind him, and a long way back to Webber who take 6th. Kubica's championship ambitions under in China. Vettel had a stellar season due to his dominance over Bourdais, whilst Raikkonen suffered badly playing second fiddle to Massa.
In the constructors, the last corner pass at Brazil does matter. With Massa's Brazil win, Ferrari have 8 wins to McLaren's 6, so Hamilton reacted instantly by passing Glock for the deciding point! As above, Ferrari suffered due to the mass of points that Raikkonen lost. BMW Sauber are not too far behind, whilst the only other change in Red Bull leapfrogging sister team Toro Rosso.
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This is great!!
The only downside for me, if there is one, is that they aren't going to be any "alternative" race winners. But it's a great read nevertheless!
And at Webber ahead of Raikkonen in 2008 (Red Bull sucked that year I thought!!!).
The only downside for me, if there is one, is that they aren't going to be any "alternative" race winners. But it's a great read nevertheless!
And at Webber ahead of Raikkonen in 2008 (Red Bull sucked that year I thought!!!).
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That's right, obviously race winners won't lose their result. I don't expect to many alternative champions either, but it's more interesting to see who got dominated by their teammate and slipped down the order!
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watka wrote:That's right, obviously race winners won't lose their result. I don't expect to many alternative champions either, but it's more interesting to see who got dominated by their teammate and slipped down the order!
It would make DBTMOTY a lot easier to decide!
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watka wrote:That's right, obviously race winners won't lose their result. I don't expect to many alternative champions either, but it's more interesting to see who got dominated by their teammate and slipped down the order!
Especially have to look Barrichello in 2004/2002 and Patrese in 1992!
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Bleu wrote:watka wrote:That's right, obviously race winners won't lose their result. I don't expect to many alternative champions either, but it's more interesting to see who got dominated by their teammate and slipped down the order!
Especially have to look Barrichello in 2004/2002 and Patrese in 1992!
Ahem......Johnny Dumfries. Satoru Nakajima in 1987. Johnny Herbert has been champion in 1995 in Elimination ones (both backwards and forwards), he'll struggle to even get points in this (he'll only score if Schumacher retired which is very rare)!! Oh and Damon Hill in 1999.
Fisichella probably does really crap in 2005 and 2006 too.
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2007
A surprisingly comfortable championship win for Kimi Raikkonen. Raikkonen seized the championship lead after Japan, Hamilton went out of the championship after his epic fail in China, and then Alonso couldn't beat Raikkonen in Brazil. Alonso was the better of the two Macca drivers to the extent that Hamilton was almost beaten by Heidfeld, who scored a ridiculous 7 3rd places. Felipe Massa suffered by playing second fiddle to Kimi towards the end of the season.
In the constructors, Ferrari still take a comfortable victory, and would still win if McLaren ban was reversed (after the Hungarian GP is applied). Honda passed Toro Rosso in the only move in the constructors rankings.
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Driver Team Total Wins 2nds 3rds
Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 94 6 3 1
Fernando Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 88 4 6 -
Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 64 4 3 -
Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 58 - 1 7
Felipe Massa Ferrari 54 3 3 -
Heikki Kovalainen Renault 47 - 1 1
Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 40 - - 1
Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 32 - - 3
Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 25 - - 1
David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 23 - - -
Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 22 - - 1
Alexander Wurz Williams-Toyota 21 - - 1
Jarno Trulli Toyota 19 - - -
Ralf Schumacher Toyota 16 - - -
Rubens Barrichello Honda 15 - - -
Jenson Button Honda 13 - - -
Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 10 - - -
Sebastian Vettel BMW Sauber/Toro Rosso-Ferrari 9 - - 1
Vitantonio Liuzzi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 4 - - -
Scott Speed Toro Rosso-Ferrari 3 - - -
Adrian Sutil Spyker-Ferrari 3 - - -
Anthony Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 2 - - -
Christjian Albers Spyker-Ferrari 1 - - -
Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 0 - - -
Markus Winkelhock Spyker-Ferrari 0 - - -
Sakon Yamamoto Spyker-Ferrari 0 - - -
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Ferrari 148
BMW Sauber 93
Renault 72
Williams-Toyota 61
Red Bull-Renault 45
Toyota 35
Honda 28
Toro Rosso-Ferrari 13
Super Aguri-Honda 12
Spyker-Ferrari 4
McLaren-Mercedes DSQ (152)
A surprisingly comfortable championship win for Kimi Raikkonen. Raikkonen seized the championship lead after Japan, Hamilton went out of the championship after his epic fail in China, and then Alonso couldn't beat Raikkonen in Brazil. Alonso was the better of the two Macca drivers to the extent that Hamilton was almost beaten by Heidfeld, who scored a ridiculous 7 3rd places. Felipe Massa suffered by playing second fiddle to Kimi towards the end of the season.
In the constructors, Ferrari still take a comfortable victory, and would still win if McLaren ban was reversed (after the Hungarian GP is applied). Honda passed Toro Rosso in the only move in the constructors rankings.
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I'm absolutely stunned with how much Alonso beats Hamilton by there to be honest! I always though the championship would be Kimi's but they'd hardly be anything between the McLarens!!
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I'll do 2006 just to keep the ball rolling. Trulli and Rosberg didn't score until the Nurburgring. Liuzzi was outscoring Massa after Monaco. After Canada, Heidfeld was 5th in the championship whilst Massa was 16th. Before Montoya left, he was 7th in the standings with 20 points. Only 7 drivers scored points at Indianapolis. Heidfeld was up to 4th after France. Only 7 drivers scored points as Hockenheim as well. Massa was down to 18th in the standings after Hockenheim. Tiago Monteiro didn't score until Hungary. David Coulthard was up to 6th after Hungary. In the end, Fisichella wins DBTMOTY as Alonso outscores him by 100 points. The Constructors Championship stays the same order.
Fernando Alonso 123 (7 wins 5 2nd)
Michael Schumacher 105 (7 wins 4 2nd)
Kimi Raikkonen 69 (3 2nd 5 3rd)
Jenson Button 68 (1 win 2 2nd 4 3rd)
Nick Heidfeld 39 (1 3rd)
Felipe Massa 36 (2 wins 1 2nd)
Ralf Schumacher 28 (2 3rd)
Jarno Trulli 28 (1 3rd)
David Coulthard 27 (1 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 23 (1 win 1 2nd)
Rubens Barrichello 22
Juan Pablo Montoya 20 (1 2nd 2 3rd)
Mark Webber 20
Pedro De La Rosa 18 (1 2nd)
Nico Rosberg 13
Vitantonio Liuzzi 12
Robert Kubica 11 (1 3rd)
Christian Klien 10
Jacques Villeneuve 9
Scott Speed 9
Takuma Sato 3
Tiago Monteiro 2
Christijan Albers 2
Robert Doornbos 2
Renault 146
Ferrari 141
McLaren Mercedes 107
Honda 90
BMW Sauber 59
Toyota 56
Red Bull Ferrari 39
Williams Cosworth 33
STR Cosworth 21
MF1 Toyota 4
Super Aguri Honda 3
Fernando Alonso 123 (7 wins 5 2nd)
Michael Schumacher 105 (7 wins 4 2nd)
Kimi Raikkonen 69 (3 2nd 5 3rd)
Jenson Button 68 (1 win 2 2nd 4 3rd)
Nick Heidfeld 39 (1 3rd)
Felipe Massa 36 (2 wins 1 2nd)
Ralf Schumacher 28 (2 3rd)
Jarno Trulli 28 (1 3rd)
David Coulthard 27 (1 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 23 (1 win 1 2nd)
Rubens Barrichello 22
Juan Pablo Montoya 20 (1 2nd 2 3rd)
Mark Webber 20
Pedro De La Rosa 18 (1 2nd)
Nico Rosberg 13
Vitantonio Liuzzi 12
Robert Kubica 11 (1 3rd)
Christian Klien 10
Jacques Villeneuve 9
Scott Speed 9
Takuma Sato 3
Tiago Monteiro 2
Christijan Albers 2
Robert Doornbos 2
Renault 146
Ferrari 141
McLaren Mercedes 107
Honda 90
BMW Sauber 59
Toyota 56
Red Bull Ferrari 39
Williams Cosworth 33
STR Cosworth 21
MF1 Toyota 4
Super Aguri Honda 3
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So Fisichella was beaten by a McLaren, a Honda, a BMW, BOTH Toyotas and a Red Bull... I think an epic fail award is in order.
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Cheers for carrying some of this on mate. I'll do some more soon honest!
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I'm enjoying this and finding it interesting so...
2005
Fernando Alonso 124 (7 wins 6 2nd 1 3rd)
Kimi Raikkonen 92 (7 wins 3 2nd 1 3rd)
Michael Schumacher 68 (1 win 3 2nd 2 3rd)
Jenson Button 53 (4 3rd)
Juan Pablo Montoya 51 (3 wins 1 2nd)
Jarno Trulli 47 (2 2nd 2 3rd)
David Coulthard 39 (1 3rd)
Mark Webber 39 (1 3rd)
Ralf Schumacher 37 (2 3rd)
Felipe Massa 35 (1 3rd)
Nick Heidfeld 30 (2 2nd 1 3rd)
Rubens Barrichello 26 (1 2nd 1 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 21 (1 win 1 2nd)
Tiago Monteiro 16 (1 2nd)
Jacques Villeneuve 14
Christjian Albers 9 (1 3rd)
Christian Klien 9
Alexander Wurz 6 (1 3rd)
Antonio Pizzonia 5
Narain Karthikeyan 4
Vitantonio Liuzzi 2
Robert Doornbos 1
McLaren Mercedes 149
Renault 145
Ferrari 94
Toyota 84
Williams BMW 74
BAR Honda 53
Red Bull Cosworth 50
Sauber Petronas 49
Jordan Toyota 20
Minardi Cosworth 10
Alonso sealed the championship at Spa, holding a 32 point advantage over Kimi Raikkonen with 3 races to go.
The Constructors Championship's only change is between McLaren and Renault with the silver cars taking top spot.
Before Heidfeld's season ended, he was leading Webber 30-23 in points.
Monteiro and Albers unrejectified themselves at Indianapolis.
Pizzonia unrejectified himself at Monza.
Klien unrejectified himself at Shanghai.
The only drivers who failed to score were Sato, De La Rosa and Freisacher.
2005
Fernando Alonso 124 (7 wins 6 2nd 1 3rd)
Kimi Raikkonen 92 (7 wins 3 2nd 1 3rd)
Michael Schumacher 68 (1 win 3 2nd 2 3rd)
Jenson Button 53 (4 3rd)
Juan Pablo Montoya 51 (3 wins 1 2nd)
Jarno Trulli 47 (2 2nd 2 3rd)
David Coulthard 39 (1 3rd)
Mark Webber 39 (1 3rd)
Ralf Schumacher 37 (2 3rd)
Felipe Massa 35 (1 3rd)
Nick Heidfeld 30 (2 2nd 1 3rd)
Rubens Barrichello 26 (1 2nd 1 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 21 (1 win 1 2nd)
Tiago Monteiro 16 (1 2nd)
Jacques Villeneuve 14
Christjian Albers 9 (1 3rd)
Christian Klien 9
Alexander Wurz 6 (1 3rd)
Antonio Pizzonia 5
Narain Karthikeyan 4
Vitantonio Liuzzi 2
Robert Doornbos 1
McLaren Mercedes 149
Renault 145
Ferrari 94
Toyota 84
Williams BMW 74
BAR Honda 53
Red Bull Cosworth 50
Sauber Petronas 49
Jordan Toyota 20
Minardi Cosworth 10
Alonso sealed the championship at Spa, holding a 32 point advantage over Kimi Raikkonen with 3 races to go.
The Constructors Championship's only change is between McLaren and Renault with the silver cars taking top spot.
Before Heidfeld's season ended, he was leading Webber 30-23 in points.
Monteiro and Albers unrejectified themselves at Indianapolis.
Pizzonia unrejectified himself at Monza.
Klien unrejectified himself at Shanghai.
The only drivers who failed to score were Sato, De La Rosa and Freisacher.
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Fisichella has just reached a new level of pathetic
Then again he did have a certain Spaniad as his teammate...
Then again he did have a certain Spaniad as his teammate...
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I've got some decent time off work now RedBullJack, so I can carry it on if you want, otherwise feel free to continue!
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watka wrote:I've got some decent time off work now RedBullJack, so I can carry it on if you want, otherwise feel free to continue!
I'll probably be quite busy anyway, but I figured out HWNSNBM will score at least 6 points
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2003 should be interesting as Michael Schumacher only has a couple of points to play with over Raikkonen, and I think DC finished ahead of Kimi less than Rubens finished infront of Michael that year........
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James1978 wrote:2003 should be interesting as Michael Schumacher only has a couple of points to play with over Raikkonen, and I think DC finished ahead of Kimi less than Rubens finished infront of Michael that year........
I can't see Williams taking the driver's championship as both drivers were championship contenders. The constructors standings should be interesting, especially between BAR, Sauber, Jaguar, Toyota and possibly Jordan.
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Just realised that Takuma Sato was at BAR in 2005, so it's pathetic that didn't get any points whilst Button got 53! Coulthard also seems to have done reasonably well in each year that he spent at Red Bull.
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watka wrote:Just realised that Takuma Sato was at BAR in 2005, so it's pathetic that didn't get any points whilst Button got 53! Coulthard also seems to have done reasonably well in each year that he spent at Red Bull.
Yeah, even Robert Doornbos got a point and Albers got 3 without the Indy podium
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2004
As you'd expect, Schumi has no problems winning the championship, and Barrichello suffers for it. Button gets closer to Schumacher, but still obviously gets no wins, so the title is over by Belgium (the 14th race). Montoya jumps Alonso, benefiting from weak stand in teammates (Gene and Pizzonia). Trulli would have probably beaten Alonso too had he not been thrown out of Renault. Barrichello finished down in 8th with only 4 points finishes, all being on the podium. Zsolt Baumgartner grabbed himself an impressive 3 points finishes to boost his points to 8 (vs 0 for Bruni).
No changes in the constructors, the gaps are similar. Toyota's poor performance probably goes to show that Trulli and Ralf Schumacher did actually bring some benefit to the team in the following years, more than they are given credit for.
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Driver Team Total Wins 2nds 3rds
Michael Schumacher Ferrari 138 13 1 -
Jenson Button BAR-Honda 98 - 8 4
Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW 61 1 1 3
Fernando Alonso Renault 52 - 3 1
Jarno Trulli Renault/Toyota 50 1 1 3
Kimi Raikkonen McLaren-Mercedes 49 1 2 1
Giancarlo Fisichella Sauber-Petronas 47 - - 1
Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 32 2 - 2
David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes 29 - - -
Mark Webber Jaguar-Cosworth 27 - - -
Ralf Schumacher Williams-BMW 24 - 1 1
Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 18 - 1 1
Olivier Panis Toyota 17 - - -
Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 16 - - 1
Christian Klien Jaguar-Cosworth 13 - - -
Cristiano da Matta Toyota 9 - - -
Nick Heidfeld Jordan-Ford 8 - - -
Zsolt Baumgartner Minardi-Cosworth 6 - - -
Timo Glock Jordan-Ford 4 - - -
Ricardo Zonta Toyota 1 - - -
Marc Gene Williams-BMW 0 - - -
Antonio Pizzonia Williams-BMW 0 - - -
Jacques Villeneuve Renault 0 - - -
Giorgio Pantano Jordan-Ford 0 - - -
Gianmaria Bruni Minardi-Cosworth 0 - - -
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Ferrari 170
BAR-Honda 116
Renault 98
Williams-BMW 85
McLaren-Mercedes 78
Sauber-Petronas 63
Jaguar-Cosworth 40
Toyota 31
Jordan-Ford 12
Minardi-Cosworth 6
As you'd expect, Schumi has no problems winning the championship, and Barrichello suffers for it. Button gets closer to Schumacher, but still obviously gets no wins, so the title is over by Belgium (the 14th race). Montoya jumps Alonso, benefiting from weak stand in teammates (Gene and Pizzonia). Trulli would have probably beaten Alonso too had he not been thrown out of Renault. Barrichello finished down in 8th with only 4 points finishes, all being on the podium. Zsolt Baumgartner grabbed himself an impressive 3 points finishes to boost his points to 8 (vs 0 for Bruni).
No changes in the constructors, the gaps are similar. Toyota's poor performance probably goes to show that Trulli and Ralf Schumacher did actually bring some benefit to the team in the following years, more than they are given credit for.
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What this goes to show is how underrated Fisichella was in 2004, would have been my driver of the year were it not for Schumacher and Button.
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watka wrote:Toyota's poor performance probably goes to show that Trulli and Ralf Schumacher did actually bring some benefit to the team in the following years, more than they are given credit for.
To be fair, you couldn't do much worse than Cristiano da Matta and Olivier Panis in 2004.
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2003
Perhaps surprisingly, Kimi Raikkonen manages to nab the title from Schumacher! Raikkonen does a Rosberg by winning the title with only one race win, but with a bewildering amount of 2nd and 3rd places. Schumacher is simply not consistent enough and throws away a 7 point lead going into the last race as Barrichello can do nothing to help his teammate. As can be seen Coulthard was smashed by Raikkonen, beating him home only 3 times in the whole season and ending up 13th in the rankings (7th in real life). The Williams teammates were too competitive with each other to build up a meaningful title challenge. Both Alonso and Webber had impressive seasons. Ralph Firman scored 9 more points than he deserved.
Ferrari's constructors title was more comfortable here than in real life. There were no changes in the standings.
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Driver Team Total Wins 2nds 3rds
Kimi Raikkonen McLaren-Mercedes 89 1 7 3
Michael Schumacher Ferrari 88 6 1 2
Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW 60 2 3 2
Fernando Alonso Renault 55 1 1 4
Ralf Schumacher Williams-BMW 48 2 1 1
Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 36 2 2 -
Mark Webber Jaguar-Cosworth 36 - - -
Jenson Button BAR-Honda 34 - - 2
Jarno Trulli Renault 29 - - 1
Cristiano da Matta Toyota 23 - - -
Nick Heidfeld Sauber-Petronas 21 - - -
Heinz Harald Frentzen Sauber-Petronas 19 - - 1
David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes 18 1 1 -
Giancarlo Fisichella Jordan-Ford 18 1 - -
Jacques Villeneuve BAR-Honda 15 - - -
Olivier Panis Toyota 15 - - -
Ralph Firman Jordan-Ford 9 - - -
Justin Wilson Minardi-Cosworth/Jaguar-Cosworth 4 - - -
Jos Verstappen Minardi-Cosworth 4 - - -
Antonio Pizzonia Jaguar-Cosworth 1 - - -
Marc Gene Williams-BMW 0 - - -
Zsolt Baumgartner Jordan-Ford 0 - - -
Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 0 - - -
Nicolas Kiesa Minardi-Cosworth 0 - - -
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Ferrari 124
Williams-BMW 108
McLaren-Mercedes 107
Renault 84
BAR-Honda 49
Sauber-Petronas 40
Jaguar-Cosworth 39
Toyota 38
Jordan-Ford 27
Minardi-Cosworth 6
Perhaps surprisingly, Kimi Raikkonen manages to nab the title from Schumacher! Raikkonen does a Rosberg by winning the title with only one race win, but with a bewildering amount of 2nd and 3rd places. Schumacher is simply not consistent enough and throws away a 7 point lead going into the last race as Barrichello can do nothing to help his teammate. As can be seen Coulthard was smashed by Raikkonen, beating him home only 3 times in the whole season and ending up 13th in the rankings (7th in real life). The Williams teammates were too competitive with each other to build up a meaningful title challenge. Both Alonso and Webber had impressive seasons. Ralph Firman scored 9 more points than he deserved.
Ferrari's constructors title was more comfortable here than in real life. There were no changes in the standings.
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Wow, I called it!
I can only think of one race where Coulthard would have stooped Kimi from scoring (Australia), but there's at least three off the top of my head where Barrichello stops Schumacher from scoring (Japan, Silverstone, Malaysia).
Wonder if something similar could happen in 1987 (Mansell and Piquet being quite equal could let in Senna or Prost, as in 1986), or even Hill/Villeneuve let in Schumacher or even Alesi 1n 1996?
Think Senna and Prost are safe in 1988 and 89 though.
I can only think of one race where Coulthard would have stooped Kimi from scoring (Australia), but there's at least three off the top of my head where Barrichello stops Schumacher from scoring (Japan, Silverstone, Malaysia).
Wonder if something similar could happen in 1987 (Mansell and Piquet being quite equal could let in Senna or Prost, as in 1986), or even Hill/Villeneuve let in Schumacher or even Alesi 1n 1996?
Think Senna and Prost are safe in 1988 and 89 though.
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Now back to the 10-6-4-3-2-1 points structure. There should be no problem with being able to hand out all the points now!
2002
As expected, Schumacher's title was never under threat here. Barrichello was Schumacher's nearest challenger in real life (144 points to 77) so it's not surprising to see that the winning margin is ever greater here! The only time that Schumacher doesn't score is when Barrichello wins the race (hence Rubinho's 40 points). Montoya and Coulthard overtake Barrichello in the championship, whilst Ralf Schumacher suffers a little. Fisichella seems to perform well (Sato was his teammate), whilst Salo (5 points finishes) and Webber (2 points finishes) also increase their points haul at the bottom end of the table.
In the constructors, Ferrari still dominate, but lose a lot of Barrichello's podiums, so it is closer. McLaren are a little closer to Williams too. Jordan leapfrog Sauber, BAR leapfrog Jaguar (despite an Irvine 2nd place at Monza) and Toyota jump Minardi (lots of Salo's 7ths and 8ths were converted into 5ths and 6ths).
2002
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Michael Schumacher Ferrari 122 11 2 -
Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW 48 - 6 3
David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes 47 1 2 4
Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 40 4 - -
Ralf Schumacher Williams-BMW 38 1 3 2
Kimi Raikkonen McLaren-Mercedes 26 - 3 2
Jenson Button Renault 21 - - 2
Giancarlo Fisichella Jordan-Honda 17 - - 2
Nick Heidfeld Sauber-Petronas 15 - - -
Jarno Trulli Renault 14 - - 1
Eddie Irvine Jaguar-Cosworth 13 - 1 -
Jacques Villeneuve BAR-Honda 11 - - 1
Mika Salo Toyota 7 - - -
Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 5 - - -
Takuma Sato Jordan-Honda 5 - - -
Olivier Panis BAR-Honda 5 - - -
Heinz Harald Frentzen Arrows-Cosworth/Sauber-Petronas 3 - - -
Mark Webber Minardi-Asiatech 3 - - -
Allan McNish Toyota 2 - - -
Pedro de la Rosa Jaguar-Cosworth 0 - - -
Enrique Bernoldi Arrows-Cosworth 0 - - -
Alex Yoong Minardi-Asiatech 0 - - -
Anthony Davidson Minardi-Asiatech 0 - - -
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Ferrari 162
Williams-BMW 86
McLaren-Mercedes 73
Renault 35
Jordan-Honda 22
Sauber-Petronas 20
BAR-Honda 16
Jaguar-Cosworth 13
Toyota 9
Minardi-Asiatech 3
Arrows-Cosworth 3
As expected, Schumacher's title was never under threat here. Barrichello was Schumacher's nearest challenger in real life (144 points to 77) so it's not surprising to see that the winning margin is ever greater here! The only time that Schumacher doesn't score is when Barrichello wins the race (hence Rubinho's 40 points). Montoya and Coulthard overtake Barrichello in the championship, whilst Ralf Schumacher suffers a little. Fisichella seems to perform well (Sato was his teammate), whilst Salo (5 points finishes) and Webber (2 points finishes) also increase their points haul at the bottom end of the table.
In the constructors, Ferrari still dominate, but lose a lot of Barrichello's podiums, so it is closer. McLaren are a little closer to Williams too. Jordan leapfrog Sauber, BAR leapfrog Jaguar (despite an Irvine 2nd place at Monza) and Toyota jump Minardi (lots of Salo's 7ths and 8ths were converted into 5ths and 6ths).
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I predict a good 2001 for Jacques.
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Well let's see how Jacques did!
2001
As in real life, no one can hope to match Michael Schumacher. David Coulthard give it his best shot, but even after scoring in all 7 of the first 7 rounds, he was still 9 points behind Schumacher at that point. Whilst Schumacher continued his dominant form, Coulthard eventually fell away and it was the Williams' cars that provided more of a threat towards the end of the season. Ralf Schumacher and Montoya got respectable 3rd and 4th place championship finishes respectively, whilst Barrichello's season was miserable, scoring only 3 times, beating Schumacher outright only once, managing only 9th in the championship. Villeneuve moved up a place to 6th, not far off beating Hakkinen either, who had a year to forget. Raikkonen and de la Rosa got surprise podiums, and Irvine got a 2nd in Monaco. Bernoldi and Burti scored a point a piece. Button scored the same amount as Verstappen, which tells you everything about his season.
The top 4 spots in the constructors remain the same, but after that BAR jump Jordan due to Villeneuve's 3 3rd places. Jaguar confortably clear a godawful Benetton, who were not that far in front of Prost either.
2001
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Michael Schumacher Ferrari 120 9 5 -
David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes 67 2 5 3
Ralf Schumacher Williams-BMW 45 3 1 1
Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW 32 1 3 1
Mika Hakkinen McLaren-Mercedes 24 2 - 1
Jacques Villeneuve BAR-Honda 21 - - 3
Nick Heidfeld Sauber-Petronas 19 - - 2
Jarno Trulli Jordan-Honda 17 - - 1
Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 16 - 2 1
Eddie Irvine Jaguar-Cosworth 13 - 1 -
Kimi Raikkonen Sauber-Petronas 13 - - 1
Jean Alesi Prost-Acer/Jordan-Honda 12 - - -
Olivier Panis BAR-Honda 10 - - -
Giancarlo Fisichella Benetton-Renault 9 - - 1
Heinz Herald Frentzen Jordan-Honda/Prost-Acer 9 - - 1
Pedro de la Rosa Jaguar-Cosworth 5 - - 1
Jenson Button Benetton-Renault 4 - - -
Jos Verstappen Arrows-Asiatech 4 - - -
Enrique Bernoldi Arrows-Asiatech 1 - - -
Luciano Burti Jaguar-Cosworth/Prost-Acer 1 - - -
Ricardo Zonta Jordan-Honda 0 - - -
Tarso Marques Minardi-European 0 - - -
Alex Yoong Minardi-European 0 - - -
Fernando Alonso Minardi-European 0 - - -
Gaston Mazzacane Prost-Acer 0 - - -
Tomas Enge Prost-Acer 0 - - -
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Ferrari 136
McLaren-Mercedes 91
Williams-BMW 77
Sauber-Petronas 32
BAR-Honda 31
Jordan-Honda 31
Jaguar-Cosworth 19
Benetton-Renault 13
Prost-Acer 7
Arrows-Asiatech 5
Minardi-European 0
As in real life, no one can hope to match Michael Schumacher. David Coulthard give it his best shot, but even after scoring in all 7 of the first 7 rounds, he was still 9 points behind Schumacher at that point. Whilst Schumacher continued his dominant form, Coulthard eventually fell away and it was the Williams' cars that provided more of a threat towards the end of the season. Ralf Schumacher and Montoya got respectable 3rd and 4th place championship finishes respectively, whilst Barrichello's season was miserable, scoring only 3 times, beating Schumacher outright only once, managing only 9th in the championship. Villeneuve moved up a place to 6th, not far off beating Hakkinen either, who had a year to forget. Raikkonen and de la Rosa got surprise podiums, and Irvine got a 2nd in Monaco. Bernoldi and Burti scored a point a piece. Button scored the same amount as Verstappen, which tells you everything about his season.
The top 4 spots in the constructors remain the same, but after that BAR jump Jordan due to Villeneuve's 3 3rd places. Jaguar confortably clear a godawful Benetton, who were not that far in front of Prost either.
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2000
Michael Schumacher wins his 2000 little more comfortably here than in real life. In reality, a win at Japan (2nd to last race) got him the championship, whereas here, it was sewn up after Indy (3rd to last race) by virtue of win count. Even after a lean spell in the middle of the season (at one point scoring any twice in the space of 7 rces), Schumacher still held the championship lead as Hakkinen did not beat Coulthard consistently enough. Once again, Jacques Villeneuve was a beneficiary under this system, going from 0 podiums to 6 podiums! Mika Salo jumped up a couple of spots as a few finishes were converted into points paying spots, whilst unsurprisingly, Button slipped down a little in what was his debut season (still got a podium though!). Wurz had a really poor season, whilst both Minardis managed to score points!
As with the driver's, Ferrari's constructors crown is more comfortable under this system. Villeneuve's performances, and Wurz's lack of them propelled BAR above Benetton. Arrows slip from 7th to 9th as they only gained 6 more points under this system. Minardi also clearly beat Prost (they both had 0 in real life).
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Michael Schumacher Ferrari 108 9 3 -
Mika Hakkinen McLaren-Mercedes 74 4 5 1
David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes 39 3 1 -
Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 34 1 4 -
Ralf Schumacher Williams-BMW 32 - 1 5
Jacques Villeneuve BAR-Honda 31 - - 6
Giancarlo Fisichella Benetton-Playlife 26 - 2 2
Heinz Herald Frentzen Jordan-Mugen-Honda 19 - 1 1
Mika Salo Sauber-Petronas 16 - - -
Eddie Irvine Jaguar-Cosworth 12 - - -
Jenson Button Williams-BMW 11 - - 2
Jos Verstappen Arrows-Supertec 8 - - -
Jarno Trulli Jordan-Mugen-Honda 7 - - -
Alexander Wurz Benetton-Playlife 5 - - -
Pedro de la Rosa Arrows-Supertec 5 - - -
Johnny Herbert Jaguar-Cosworth 4 - - -
Ricardo Zonta BAR-Honda 4 - - -
Pedro Diniz Sauber-Petronas 3 - - -
Marc Gene Minardi-Fondmetal 2 - - -
Nick Heidfeld Prost-Peugeot 1 - - -
Gaston Mazzacane Minardi-Fondmetal 1 - - -
Luciano Burti Jaguar-Cosworth 0 - - -
Jean Alesi Prost-Peugeot 0 - - -
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Ferrari 142
McLaren-Mercedes 113
Williams-BMW 43
BAR-Honda 35
Benetton-Playlife 31
Jordan-Mugen-Honda 26
Sauber-Petronas 19
Jaguar-Cosworth 16
Arrows-Supertec 13
Minardi-Fondmetal 3
Prost-Peugeot 1
Michael Schumacher wins his 2000 little more comfortably here than in real life. In reality, a win at Japan (2nd to last race) got him the championship, whereas here, it was sewn up after Indy (3rd to last race) by virtue of win count. Even after a lean spell in the middle of the season (at one point scoring any twice in the space of 7 rces), Schumacher still held the championship lead as Hakkinen did not beat Coulthard consistently enough. Once again, Jacques Villeneuve was a beneficiary under this system, going from 0 podiums to 6 podiums! Mika Salo jumped up a couple of spots as a few finishes were converted into points paying spots, whilst unsurprisingly, Button slipped down a little in what was his debut season (still got a podium though!). Wurz had a really poor season, whilst both Minardis managed to score points!
As with the driver's, Ferrari's constructors crown is more comfortable under this system. Villeneuve's performances, and Wurz's lack of them propelled BAR above Benetton. Arrows slip from 7th to 9th as they only gained 6 more points under this system. Minardi also clearly beat Prost (they both had 0 in real life).
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Re: The One-Car Championship
1999
This championship will now be etched in my mind as the championship that Frentzen lost! Whilst Hakkinen and Irvine both had 9 points finishes, Frentzen racked up 13 points finishes to bring himself into contention. After 6 rounds, it looked like a 2 horse battle for the title once again between Hakkinen and Michael Schumacher. 2 rounds later at Britain, that all changed as Michael Schumacher had his leg-breaking crash, and Hakkinen failed to score. Irvine then became Ferrari #1 and Frentzen had put himself in with a chance by winning the French GP the race before. By Belgium, Frentzen and Irvine had changed 15 and 22 point deficits (respectively) to just 5 and 2 point deficits. Frentzen took the championship lead with victory in Italy, and held onto it despite retirement at the Nurburgring whilst Hakkinen and Irvine scored. After Malaysia, and a win for Irvine, the championship was as follows going into the last round:
Hakkinen 61 (4 wins, 3 2nds)
Irvine 61 (4 wins, 2 2nds)
Frentzen 60 (2 wins)
As it happened, Hakkinen's win settled the championship and Michael Schumacher finished ahead of Irvine to allow 2nd place in the championship to go to Frentzen. Elsewhere, Ralf managed to get the better of his big brother, racking up the podiums in his absence to beat him by a point. Coulthard slips from 4th to 6th (despite 2 wins), and Barrichello finishes level with teammate Herbert. Salo drops a fair few points from being beaten by Irvine, whilst Trulli doubles his. Damon Hill has an appalling season (only 2 points finishes as Frentzen dominates him), whilst Zanardi and Villeneuve both score.
The constructors' title changes hands from Ferrari to McLaren, mainly by virtue of McLaren's higher win count. Another change is that Williams comfortably jump Stewart, whose cars often both performed well at the same time (e.g. Barrichello's 3rd at Nurburgring was lost). Arrows failed to gain any points under this system and therefore fell behind Minardi and debutants BAR!
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Driver Team Total Wins 2nds 3rds
Mika Hakkinen McLaren-Mercedes 71 5 3 -
Heinz Harald Frentzen Jordan-Mugen-Honda 64 2 3 5
Eddie Irvine Ferrari 61 4 2 2
Ralf Schumacher Williams-Supertec 41 - 1 5
Michael Schumacher Ferrari 40 2 3 -
David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes 37 2 2 -
Johnny Herbert Stewart-Ford 17 1 - 1
Rubens Barrichello Stewart-Ford 17 - - 2
Giancarlo Fisichella Benetton-Playlife 15 - 1 -
Jarno Trulli Prost-Peugeot 14 - 1 -
Alexander Wurz Benetton-Playlife 8 - - -
Jean Alesi Sauber-Petronas 7 - - -
Mika Salo Ferrari/BAR-Supertec 5 - - 1
Damon Hill Jordan-Mugen-Honda 5 - - -
Pedro Diniz Sauber-Petronas 5 - - -
Olivier Panis Prost-Peugeot 4 - - -
Marc Gene Minardi-Ford 2 - - -
Alessandro Zanardi Williams-Supertec 1 - - -
Pedro de la Rosa Arrows 1 - - -
Jacques Villeneuve BAR-Supertec 1 - - -
Toranosuke Takagi Arrows 0 - - -
Luca Badoer Minardi-Ford 0 - - -
Stephane Sarrazin Minardi-Ford 0 - - -
Ricardo Zonta BAR-Supertec 0 - - -
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McLaren-Mercedes 108
Ferrari 105
Jordan-Mugen-Honda 69
Williams-Supertec 42
Stewart-Ford 34
Benetton-Playlife 23
Prost-Peugeot 18
Sauber-Petronas 12
Minardi-Ford 2
BAR-Supertec 2
Arrows 1
This championship will now be etched in my mind as the championship that Frentzen lost! Whilst Hakkinen and Irvine both had 9 points finishes, Frentzen racked up 13 points finishes to bring himself into contention. After 6 rounds, it looked like a 2 horse battle for the title once again between Hakkinen and Michael Schumacher. 2 rounds later at Britain, that all changed as Michael Schumacher had his leg-breaking crash, and Hakkinen failed to score. Irvine then became Ferrari #1 and Frentzen had put himself in with a chance by winning the French GP the race before. By Belgium, Frentzen and Irvine had changed 15 and 22 point deficits (respectively) to just 5 and 2 point deficits. Frentzen took the championship lead with victory in Italy, and held onto it despite retirement at the Nurburgring whilst Hakkinen and Irvine scored. After Malaysia, and a win for Irvine, the championship was as follows going into the last round:
Hakkinen 61 (4 wins, 3 2nds)
Irvine 61 (4 wins, 2 2nds)
Frentzen 60 (2 wins)
As it happened, Hakkinen's win settled the championship and Michael Schumacher finished ahead of Irvine to allow 2nd place in the championship to go to Frentzen. Elsewhere, Ralf managed to get the better of his big brother, racking up the podiums in his absence to beat him by a point. Coulthard slips from 4th to 6th (despite 2 wins), and Barrichello finishes level with teammate Herbert. Salo drops a fair few points from being beaten by Irvine, whilst Trulli doubles his. Damon Hill has an appalling season (only 2 points finishes as Frentzen dominates him), whilst Zanardi and Villeneuve both score.
The constructors' title changes hands from Ferrari to McLaren, mainly by virtue of McLaren's higher win count. Another change is that Williams comfortably jump Stewart, whose cars often both performed well at the same time (e.g. Barrichello's 3rd at Nurburgring was lost). Arrows failed to gain any points under this system and therefore fell behind Minardi and debutants BAR!
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Re: The One-Car Championship
1998
At the business end, this isn't too different to real life. Hakkinen actually went into the final race with a one point deficit, but Schumacher's retirement meant an easy race for Hakkinen and he took home the championship. From about France onwards (the 8th round), Schumacher and Hakkinen were neck and neck for the championship lead right through until the end. Naturally, Coulthard and Irvine suffered. Coulthard went from 3rd to 9th (with only 3 points finishes) and Irvine from 4th to 11th (with 3 points finishes as well). AGAIN, Villeneuve was a beneficiary, earning a few extra podiums and pipping a large group of drivers to 3rd in the championship. Amongst that pack is Jean Alesi, who only finished 11th in real life, but 5th here after collecting a 2nd at Spa (poor Ralf Schumacher!) and 9 other points finishes. Shinji Nakano scored 4 points, including a 4th at Montreal! Tuero and Magnussen also score a point each.
In the constructors, McLaren and Ferrari aren't quite so far ahead of the rest, but it's still a big gap! Benetton jump Jordan for 4th, Stewart jump Arrows (who always seem to lose out), and Minardi jump Prost.
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Driver Team Total Wins 2nds 3rds
Mika Hakkinen McLaren-Mercedes 102 8 3 1
Michael Schumacher Ferrari 93 6 5 -
Jacques Villeneuve Williams-Mecachrome 27 - 1 3
Damon Hill Jordan-Mugen-Honda 26 1 - 2
Jean Alesi Sauber-Petronas 25 - 1 -
Heinz Harald Frentzen Williams-Mecachrome 23 - 1 2
Alexander Wurz Benetton-Playlife 22 - - 4
Giancarlo Fisichella Benetton-Playlife 20 - 2 -
David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes 17 1 1 -
Ralf Schumacher Jordan-Mugen-Honda 15 - 1 1
Eddie Irvine Ferrari 14 - 1 2
Rubens Barrichello Stewart-Ford 8 - - 1
Johnny Herbert Sauber-Petronas 7 - - -
Pedro Diniz Arrows 4 - - -
Shinji Nakano Minardi-Ford 4 - - -
Mika Salo Arrows 3 - - -
Jarno Trulli Prost-Peugeot 2 - - -
Ricardo Rosset Tyrrell-Ford 2 - - -
Jan Magnussen Stewart-Ford 1 - - -
Esteban Tuero Minardi-Ford 1 - - -
Olivier Panis Prost-Peugeot 0 - - -
Jos Verstappen Stewart-Ford 0 - - -
Toranosuke Takagi Tyrrell-Ford 0 - - -
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McLaren-Mercedes 119
Ferrari 107
Williams-Mecachrome 50
Benetton-Playlife 42
Jordan-Mugen-Honda 41
Sauber-Petronas 32
Stewart-Ford 9
Arrows 7
Minardi-Ford 5
Prost-Peugeot 2
Tyrrell-Ford 2
At the business end, this isn't too different to real life. Hakkinen actually went into the final race with a one point deficit, but Schumacher's retirement meant an easy race for Hakkinen and he took home the championship. From about France onwards (the 8th round), Schumacher and Hakkinen were neck and neck for the championship lead right through until the end. Naturally, Coulthard and Irvine suffered. Coulthard went from 3rd to 9th (with only 3 points finishes) and Irvine from 4th to 11th (with 3 points finishes as well). AGAIN, Villeneuve was a beneficiary, earning a few extra podiums and pipping a large group of drivers to 3rd in the championship. Amongst that pack is Jean Alesi, who only finished 11th in real life, but 5th here after collecting a 2nd at Spa (poor Ralf Schumacher!) and 9 other points finishes. Shinji Nakano scored 4 points, including a 4th at Montreal! Tuero and Magnussen also score a point each.
In the constructors, McLaren and Ferrari aren't quite so far ahead of the rest, but it's still a big gap! Benetton jump Jordan for 4th, Stewart jump Arrows (who always seem to lose out), and Minardi jump Prost.
Last edited by watka on 06 Jan 2011, 13:26, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: The One-Car Championship
Coutlhard and Irvine battling it out for DBTMOTY!
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