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2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 11 Mar 2013, 20:44
by Benetton
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Reunited Edition

Practice 1 (2013-03-15) - 0230 CET - 1230 Local
Practice 2 (2013-03-15) - 0630 CET - 1630 Local
Practice 3 (2013-03-16) - 0400 CET - 1400 Local
Qualifying (2013-03-16) - 0700 CET - 1700 Local
Race (2013-03-17) - 0700 CET - 1700 Local

The weather report

http://www.abc.net.au/melbourne/weather/

Rain for Saturday and Sunday? Yes, please.

f1.com Season Preview

http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2013/3/14317.html

F1 Rejects Podcast Season Preview

http://www.f1rejects.com/podcasts/index.html

jamesallenonf1.com Preview articles

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/03/how-the-f1-teams-will-approach-the-australian-grand-prix/
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/03/analysis-of-the-final-barcelona-f1-test/


#McLaren50 #CelebrateBruce

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23E1m8ZxFmU

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 06:45
by Shizuka
If we start with a wet quali and/or race, the usually mixed up grid would be scrambled even more, and therefore, expect an excellent season opener, a perfect F1 Deprivation cure :D

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 08:47
by AdrianSutil
Shizuka wrote:If we start with a wet quali and/or race, the usually mixed up grid would be scrambled even more, and therefore, expect an excellent season opener, a perfect F1 Deprivation cure :D

Echo that statement. Rain during quali or the race always provides an entertaining event.

Plus Sutil could shine in the wet :) #Yayhe'sback #BeatDiResta #Ihatehashtags

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 09:33
by Shizuka
AdrianSutil wrote:Plus Sutil could shine in the wet :)


Hopefully he won't drive like a tool, like he did in Korea back in 2010, while Liuzzi finally found his skills, yet that still didn't make him escape the inevitable ROTY :lol:

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 12:35
by James1978
Believe it or not, I actually don't want rain!

It would be good to get a general pecking order of where things stand in the dry - if it's wet (either in qualifying or the race - qualifying usually ends up with fast cars out of position like the 2005 race) then we won't know until Malaysia.

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 13:42
by Ferrim
Australia is a strange place, and not only because it's down under. The pecking order there doesn't necesarily reflect the true pecking order.

So, I wouldn't mind to see a bit of rain :)

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 15:45
by madmark1974
Can I just say I'm liking the little preview / introduction you've done here Benetton, much better than the previous Captain-Hammer-I-own-exclusive-rights-to-create-race-thread efforts ...

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 15:51
by Jocke1
Hide all champagne glasses in the general Albert Park area.

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 17:42
by FullMetalJack
Shizuka wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Plus Sutil could shine in the wet :)


Hopefully he won't drive like a tool, like he did in Korea back in 2010, while Liuzzi finally found his skills, yet that still didn't make him escape the inevitable ROTY :lol:


I'm still convinced they both just drove the wrong cars, and were wearing each other's helmets.

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 17:45
by Wallio
I have to say, NBC has impressed me so far, loads of pre-Aussie coverage, both on NBCSN itself and on NBCSports MotorSportsTalk website. Love the articles by Hobbs and Matchett.

And I;m gonna go out on a flyer say Merc 1-2 in quali, although I hope to God I'm wrong......

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 12 Mar 2013, 22:51
by mario
Ferrim wrote:Australia is a strange place, and not only because it's down under. The pecking order there doesn't necesarily reflect the true pecking order.

So, I wouldn't mind to see a bit of rain :)

It is a reasonable indicator of relative form, but not always - there have been a few years where a team and driver have done well in Australia but subsequently fallen back during the season, so it can be a bit misleading. Added to that, being at the start of the season and therefore falling in the phase where the teams may be a bit uncertain about tyres and the drivers somewhat rusty from the off season wait, the option for slightly more unpredictability and accidents can also make things more variable, and therefore misleading, depending on the circumstances.

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 13 Mar 2013, 08:19
by F1000X
IF, and it's a massively small if, Hamilton wins this weekend, I win about 20 bets against my friends.

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 13 Mar 2013, 12:38
by Klon
F1000X wrote:IF, and it's a massively small if, Hamilton wins this weekend, I win about 20 bets against my friends.


Well, that is only helpful if money is riding on those bets.

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 13 Mar 2013, 12:47
by FullMetalJack
Klon wrote:
F1000X wrote:IF, and it's a massively small if, Hamilton wins this weekend, I win about 20 bets against my friends.


Well, that is only helpful if money is riding on those bets.


Or beers.

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 13 Mar 2013, 12:49
by AndreaModa
redbulljack14 wrote:
Klon wrote:
F1000X wrote:IF, and it's a massively small if, Hamilton wins this weekend, I win about 20 bets against my friends.


Well, that is only helpful if money is riding on those bets.


Or beers.


Or girls.

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 13 Mar 2013, 13:12
by DanielPT
AndreaModa wrote:
redbulljack14 wrote:
Klon wrote:
Well, that is only helpful if money is riding on those bets.


Or beers.


Or girls.


It is tradition that, at this point, someone comes and say:

Family forum, guys.

There. :)

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 13 Mar 2013, 13:29
by Ferrim
By the way, my prediction for this weekend is:

VETTELWINSLOL.

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 13 Mar 2013, 15:35
by AndreaModa
DanielPT wrote:It is tradition that, at this point, someone comes and say:

Family forum, guys.

There. :)


I don't know, I'd say the tradition is normally to mention something related to dr-baker at this point! :P

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 13 Mar 2013, 19:29
by andrew2209
Can we have a dry start, but a sudden downpour on Lap 1?

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 13 Mar 2013, 19:35
by Salamander
andrew2209 wrote:Can we have a dry start, but a sudden downpour on Lap 1?


But only in a few corners.

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 13 Mar 2013, 19:36
by mario
Well, we're finally getting to see some of the cars in Melbourne spec in the photos coming up here and there, and there is some curiosity over what Lotus are doing this coming weekend.
The reason for that is that they appear to have closed off the two inlets on either side of the airbox intake that are thought to feed their passive secondary drag reduction device (i.e. a passively activated blown rear wing to help shed more drag at top speed), suggesting that they do not want to use it for this weekend. Perhaps, given the problems they had in trying to set up the similar system they wanted to run last year but pushed back to 2013 instead, they have decided to play it safe this weekend and focus on their set ups rather than getting lost in trying to calibrate this device instead?
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Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 13 Mar 2013, 19:45
by andrew2209
Come to think of it, has there ever been a truly wet race at Melbourne? There's been a few wet qualifying sessions, and damp starts, but I can't recall a wet race.

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 13 Mar 2013, 19:53
by DOSBoot
andrew2209 wrote:Come to think of it, has there ever been a truly wet race at Melbourne? There's been a few wet qualifying sessions, and damp starts, but I can't recall a wet race.


2010.

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 13 Mar 2013, 20:13
by Divina_Galica
mario wrote:Well, we're finally getting to see some of the cars in Melbourne spec in the photos coming up here and there, and there is some curiosity over what Lotus are doing this coming weekend.
The reason for that is that they appear to have closed off the two inlets on either side of the airbox intake that are thought to feed their passive secondary drag reduction device (i.e. a passively activated blown rear wing to help shed more drag at top speed), suggesting that they do not want to use it for this weekend. Perhaps, given the problems they had in trying to set up the similar system they wanted to run last year but pushed back to 2013 instead, they have decided to play it safe this weekend and focus on their set ups rather than getting lost in trying to calibrate this device instead?


Given the difficulties there seem to be in tuning the system (partly dependent upon barometric pressure which will change if the weather changes), and it only being of benefit at high speed, (ie it can only possibly be set to activate above the fastest corner speed where downforce is required and then plus a safety margin), it is only likely to be seen on circuits with high speed straights and no high speed corners - Malaysia and China would look suitable though.

DG

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 14 Mar 2013, 00:14
by DemocalypseNow
How bleedin' awful is that new vodcast Peter Windsor is doing for F1 Racing Magazine?! It's so badly produced I think the F1RWRS Live Broadcasts are a better quality live show than it is. The whole thing was incredibly boring and pointless. Safe to say I won't be watching it at any point again this season...

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 14 Mar 2013, 01:40
by Ed24
DOSBoot wrote:
andrew2209 wrote:Come to think of it, has there ever been a truly wet race at Melbourne? There's been a few wet qualifying sessions, and damp starts, but I can't recall a wet race.


2010.

I wouldn't call 2010 "truly wet" though, I'm pretty sure there wasn't one drop at all during the race, just a downpour before the race that led to a drying track.

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 14 Mar 2013, 03:51
by razta
A friend of mine just told me she stalked toto wolff for a photo..
she said his response was one of "surprise" :lol:

she hasn't sent me the pic yet.. but looks like it'll be fun hehehe

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 14 Mar 2013, 05:24
by TomWazzleshaw
For those of you that are interested, the weather forecasts for Saturday are looking uglier and uglier by the minute. And considering it's been both dry and hot as hell down there for the last two weeks, I wouldn't be surprised if some strange stuff happen over the weekend.

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 14 Mar 2013, 08:06
by Boomstick
Well for the first time im in a stand undercover, more rain the better i say! (turn3)

Track looks very green, and the support this year looks pretty thin...ah well...ill see if i can get some decent car pics in oir yearly pit lane walk tomorrow night.

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 14 Mar 2013, 11:10
by DanielPT
razta wrote:A friend of mine just told me she stalked toto wolff for a photo..
she said his response was one of "surprise" :lol:

she hasn't sent me the pic yet.. but looks like it'll be fun hehehe


Well, I can understand that since, given time and money, I would like to stalk Susie Wolff for photo although she might be less surprised than him...

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 14 Mar 2013, 11:43
by FullMetalJack
DanielPT wrote:
razta wrote:A friend of mine just told me she stalked toto wolff for a photo..
she said his response was one of "surprise" :lol:

she hasn't sent me the pic yet.. but looks like it'll be fun hehehe


Well, I can understand that since, given time and money, I would like to stalk Susie Wolff for photo although she might be less surprised than him...


dr-baker, is that you?

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 14 Mar 2013, 11:51
by DanielPT
redbulljack14 wrote:
DanielPT wrote:
razta wrote:A friend of mine just told me she stalked toto wolff for a photo..
she said his response was one of "surprise" :lol:

she hasn't sent me the pic yet.. but looks like it'll be fun hehehe


Well, I can understand that since, given time and money, I would like to stalk Susie Wolff for photo although she might be less surprised than him...


dr-baker, is that you?


Nope. I do find my idea of Susie worth of wasting my time in such way though. And believe me that is a rare thing to happen.

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 14 Mar 2013, 12:08
by dinizintheoven
Wizzie wrote:For those of you that are interested, the weather forecasts for Saturday are looking uglier and uglier by the minute. And considering it's been both dry and hot as hell down there for the last two weeks, I wouldn't be surprised if some strange stuff happen over the weekend.

I'm as happy as James May.

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Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 14 Mar 2013, 13:32
by f1-gast
I hope i already have my Abbo activevated by Sport1 i should be able to see the race from any car and from any cam thats on the car and racetrack.

Im glad the F1 season starts.

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 14 Mar 2013, 17:05
by dr-baker
DanielPT wrote:
redbulljack14 wrote:
DanielPT wrote:Well, I can understand that since, given time and money, I would like to stalk Susie Wolff for photo although she might be less surprised than him...

dr-baker, is that you?

Nope. I do find my idea of Susie worth of wasting my time in such way though. And believe me that is a rare thing to happen.

Already met her and have her autograph... Brands Hatch, DTM, a few years ago...
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Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 15 Mar 2013, 00:48
by GwilymJJames
This is HRT's rac... ah, shite.

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 15 Mar 2013, 01:12
by RealRacingRoots
We've already had 3 for sures from drivers on the sky coverage and FP1 hasn't even started yet! My word. :lol:

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 15 Mar 2013, 01:25
by Shadaza
GwilymJJames wrote:This is HRT's rac... ah, shite.


No this is the dawn of the Scorpion....oh bathplug

RealRacingRoots wrote:We've already had 3 for sures from drivers on the sky coverage and FP1 hasn't even started yet! My word. :lol:


Good thing I haven't taken a drink every time "don't know" is uttered!

"For sure we don't know the pace or the tires." - The first 30 minutes of Sky 2013 coverage abridged.

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 15 Mar 2013, 02:06
by Onxy Wrecked
James1978 wrote:Believe it or not, I actually don't want rain!

It would be good to get a general pecking order of where things stand in the dry - if it's wet (either in qualifying or the race - qualifying usually ends up with fast cars out of position like the 2005 race) then we won't know until Malaysia.

Malaysia is even more prone to rain than Melbourne is.

Re: 2013 Australian Grand Prix Thread - Race SUN 0700 CET

Posted: 15 Mar 2013, 02:08
by Onxy Wrecked
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
andrew2209 wrote:Can we have a dry start, but a sudden downpour on Lap 1?


But only in a few corners.

Like a race at Bathurst?