The 2013 'Pastor will defend his win' Spanish GP Thread

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 02 May 2013, 19:38

Seven days and a small number of hours to go, until the first practice session at Catalunya.
The podium this year will be exactly the same as last year, mark my words.

2012 Santander Grand Prix of Spain
Race number 5 of 20
May 13, 2012 at Circuit de Catalunya, Barcelona, Spain
66 laps on a 4.655 kilometer road course (307.2 kilometers)
Time of race: 1h:39m:09s.15
Average Speed: 185.838 kph
Pole Time: 82.285 seconds
Cautions: none
Margin of Victory: 3.195 sec
Attendance: 82,000
Lead changes: 7

Podium:
1st) Pastor Maldonado
2nd) Fernando Alonso +3.195
3rd) Kimi Raikkonen +3.884

Past winners:

2012

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2013

Post by **mario** » 02 May 2013, 19:55

Another thing to note is that the FIA seem to believe that they have got to the bottom of the electronic problems that they have been suffering from since the start of the year. Although the FIA had considered ditching the current supplier, Riedel Communications, and reverting back to their 2012 spec system, it seems that the promises of an upgraded system from Riedel, plus complaints from the teams that switching suppliers would cause considerable problems with rewiring the cars, have been enough for the FIA to stick with them for now. http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/05/0 ... PH20130501

TheBigJ · Post by **TheBigJ** » 02 May 2013, 20:31

See this is when Jean-Marie Ballestre is sorely missed. He's have just told the teams to bathplug off and sacked the electronics supplier. Any incompetence would be sorted out instantly. Makes Bernie look like a housewife.

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 02 May 2013, 21:03

TheBigJ wrote:See this is when Jean-Marie Ballestre is sorely missed. He's have just told the teams to bathplug off and sacked the electronics supplier. Any incompetence would be sorted out instantly. Makes Bernie look like a housewife.

I actually agree with this. I may not have been born at the time, but I have watched random stuff from Balestre's time. He was better and is better than Bernie.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 02 May 2013, 21:37

go_Rubens wrote:
TheBigJ wrote:See this is when Jean-Marie Ballestre is sorely missed. He's have just told the teams to bathplug off and sacked the electronics supplier. Any incompetence would be sorted out instantly. Makes Bernie look like a housewife.

I actually agree with this. I may not have been born at the time, but I have watched random stuff from Balestre's time. He was better and is better than Bernie.

Woah easy there tiger, Balestre was good at one thing, and that was making unchallengeable decisions that more often than not angered drivers, team bosses and the fans. He had questionable political views and had some dodgy contacts. His uncompromising stance over a number of issues caused chaos in the early 80s, and his handling of the Prost/Senna affair was a shambles. As a businessman he was hopeless, and was fooled by Bernie many times towards the end of his tenure, resulting in the FIA originally getting a paltry share of the TV revenues from F1. The sport was far less professional under Balestre, made far less money and was unrefined and amateurish at times.

I know I wouldn't want him in charge right now, that's for sure.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 02 May 2013, 22:18

"Pastor will defend his win?"

I smell an avatar bet.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 03 May 2013, 07:14

AndreaModa wrote:Woah easy there tiger, Balestre was good at one thing, and that was making unchallengeable decisions that more often than not angered drivers, team bosses and the fans. He had questionable political views and had some dodgy contacts. His uncompromising stance over a number of issues caused chaos in the early 80s, and his handling of the Prost/Senna affair was a shambles. As a businessman he was hopeless, and was fooled by Bernie many times towards the end of his tenure, resulting in the FIA originally getting a paltry share of the TV revenues from F1. The sport was far less professional under Balestre, made far less money and was unrefined and amateurish at times.

I know I wouldn't want him in charge right now, that's for sure.

This. In some ways F1 back then was successful inspite of Balestre. It may be hard to believe now but the battles Bernie and Max Mosley had with Balestre brought F1 out of the seventies. I know we sometimes get nostalagic over the Old Days (well I do) but left to Balestre F1 would still be a 14/15 race mostly European based series. In this modern era how quaint and old fashioned would that now look?

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 03 May 2013, 09:29

JeremyMcClean wrote:I smell an avatar bet.

You're on. Can't get much worse than my current one. Rules?

Post by **Ataxia** » 03 May 2013, 10:56

News from Williams. And it looks promising.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 03 May 2013, 11:01

First Venezuela on the rear wing, now the Kazakh capital city somewhere on the car. Wonder how long it'll take for Williams to take on an Earth livery? :lol:

madmark1974 · Post by **madmark1974** » 03 May 2013, 11:03

Ataxia wrote:News from Williams. And it looks promising.

Getting in first with this :

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 03 May 2013, 11:22

Ataxia wrote:News from Williams. And it looks promising.

It's a very minor deal, judging by the placement of the logos described in the article. But still, better than nothing!

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 03 May 2013, 11:47

I love those podium photos - especially the way Kimi looks to totally not care whenever he's on the podium. :lol:

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 03 May 2013, 22:26

Ataxia wrote:News from Williams. And it looks promising.

Followed by Johan Bruyneel being appointed Team Principal, both drivers working harder to sabotage each other than beat their rivals, and then the loser of that battle being banned for failing a drugs test.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 04 May 2013, 00:07

Jocke1 wrote:
JeremyMcClean wrote:I smell an avatar bet.

You're on. Can't get much worse than my current one. Rules?

Your avatar if I win:

And you can pick the avatar if I lose.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 04 May 2013, 00:27

JeremyMcClean wrote:
Jocke1 wrote:
JeremyMcClean wrote:I smell an avatar bet.

You're on. Can't get much worse than my current one. Rules?

Your avatar if I win:

And you can pick the avatar if I lose.

Did you seriously just pass up the chance to give Jocke an Alex Wurz avatar?

what is wrong with yooouuuuu

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 04 May 2013, 00:28

JeremyMcClean wrote:
Jocke1 wrote:
JeremyMcClean wrote:I smell an avatar bet.

You're on. Can't get much worse than my current one. Rules?

Your avatar if I win:

And you can pick the avatar if I lose.

I know I'm not a part of this, but it occurs to me that you haven't said how long the avatar is for.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 04 May 2013, 00:29

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Did you seriously just pass up the chance to give Jocke an Alex Wurz avatar?

what is wrong with yooouuuuu

If the original doesn't reappear soon, I just might do that instead

DOSBoot · Post by **DOSBoot** » 04 May 2013, 03:05

JeremyMcClean wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Did you seriously just pass up the chance to give Jocke an Alex Wurz avatar?

what is wrong with yooouuuuu

If the original doesn't reappear soon, I just might do that instead

Hasn't yet. Do it! Do It! Do it! Do it!

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 04 May 2013, 07:21

JeremyMcClean wrote:
Jocke1 wrote:
JeremyMcClean wrote:I smell an avatar bet.

You're on. Can't get much worse than my current one. Rules?

Your avatar if I win:

And you can pick the avatar if I lose.

I don't see anything, but looking at the string revealed this:
pastor_maldonadopct27s_crash_2011_malaysia

. I'm ok with that.

And as for the duration of keeping the avatar on the losers profile, I'd like to nominate #12 days.
#12 being the car number on HWNSNBM's '03 Jordan EJ13.

Oh, and here's your avatar for when I win the bet on Sunday evening:

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 04 May 2013, 11:18

Jocke1 wrote:
JeremyMcClean wrote:
Your avatar if I win:

And you can pick the avatar if I lose.

I don't see anything, but looking at the string revealed this:
pastor_maldonadopct27s_crash_2011_malaysia . I'm ok with that.

And as for the duration of keeping the avatar on the losers profile, I'd like to nominate #12 days.
#12 being the car number on HWNSNBM's '03 Jordan EJ13.

Sounds good.

Oh, and here's your avatar for when I win the bet on Sunday evening:

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 04 May 2013, 13:07

I am one of the 98 people who voted for GVDG. 7th place for him is really not bad. Actually it's incredible.
Poor Chilton :roll:

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 04 May 2013, 13:11

The most disappointing thing about that has to be that they wrote out Perez's name as Sergio Perez Mendoza, but they didn't do the same for Esteban Gutierrez Gutierrez.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 04 May 2013, 15:41

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:The most disappointing thing about that has to be that they wrote out Perez's name as Sergio Perez Mendoza, but they didn't do the same for Esteban Gutierrez Gutierrez.

And Nicolas Hülkenberg... and Di Resta with a capital D... strange decisions.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 04 May 2013, 16:02

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:The most disappointing thing about that has to be that they wrote out Perez's name as Sergio Perez Mendoza, but they didn't do the same for Esteban Gutierrez Gutierrez.

And Nicolas Hülkenberg... and Di Resta with a capital D... strange decisions.

And they bother to put Sergio Perez Mendoza but not Fernando Alonso Díaz? Huh?

Also, when checking Felipe Massa's maternal name, it would appear he doesn't have one registered to his birth name at all. Which is frankly bizarre, I've never come across a Brazilian that doesn't have that.

LionZoo · Post by **LionZoo** » 04 May 2013, 17:27

Jocke1 wrote:

I am one of the 98 people who voted for GVDG. 7th place for him is really not bad. Actually it's incredible.
Poor Chilton

Calling all ChiltonCrazers...

Divina_Galica · Post by **Divina_Galica** » 04 May 2013, 20:11

Ataxia wrote:News from Williams. And it looks promising.

"The latest deal will see Astana promoted as a centre for business and tourism on the cars SIS vane and outer nose struts", we'll all be flocking there won't we....

Still, money is money.

DG

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 05 May 2013, 02:10

Jocke1 wrote:

I am one of the 98 people who voted for GVDG. 7th place for him is really not bad. Actually it's incredible.
Poor Chilton

How do you find this site?

:roll:

for Chilton and the ChiltonCraze.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 05 May 2013, 02:22

go_Rubens wrote: for Chilton and the ChiltonCraze.

The ChiltonCraze is not something to be mocked. Max is clearly the next big thing in F1, that is a fact. Clearly.

johnnyCarwash · Post by **johnnyCarwash** » 05 May 2013, 06:33

go_Rubens wrote:
Jocke1 wrote:

I am one of the 98 people who voted for GVDG. 7th place for him is really not bad. Actually it's incredible.
Poor Chilton

How do you find this site?

for Chilton and the ChiltonCraze.

It's one of the polls on the driver database homepage, and they log your IP address so you can't vote twice for the same person

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 05 May 2013, 06:37

I see how the GVDG troll vote was good enough for 7th. Most of them likely don't remember the crap he did in 2007

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 05 May 2013, 08:36

How on earth is Finger Boy so popular?? :shock:

I voted for Lewis Hamilton, asking for punishment there......

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 05 May 2013, 10:57

James1978 wrote:How on earth is Finger Boy so popular??

Here in Blighty I only ever met one Schumacher fan. She was a lovely girl, but I digress...

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 05 May 2013, 11:02

CoopsII wrote:
James1978 wrote:How on earth is Finger Boy so popular??

Here in Blighty I only ever met one Schumacher fan. She was a lovely girl, but I digress...

I'm somewhat of a Schumacher fan, nobody else I know really likes him though.

By the way, i've added to Button's tally on that poll. Two reasons.

1. He actually is my favourite driver
2. This is something that Vettel doesn't need to win

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 05 May 2013, 23:46

redbulljack14 wrote:
CoopsII wrote:
James1978 wrote:How on earth is Finger Boy so popular??

Here in Blighty I only ever met one Schumacher fan. She was a lovely girl, but I digress...

I'm somewhat of a Schumacher fan, nobody else I know really likes him though.

By the way, i've added to Button's tally on that poll. Two reasons.

1. He actually is my favourite driver
2. This is something that Vettel doesn't need to win

Well, you can add me to the list of Schumacher fans you know of.

I'll vote for Bianchi. Bianchi seems to be good on track and nearly beat Williams in China. He's only finished a lap down in every race compared to Chilton. Future star? In my dreams, he is.

DalekSam · Post by **DalekSam** » 06 May 2013, 10:01

go_Rubens wrote:
redbulljack14 wrote:
CoopsII wrote: Here in Blighty I only ever met one Schumacher fan. She was a lovely girl, but I digress...

I'm somewhat of a Schumacher fan, nobody else I know really likes him though.

By the way, i've added to Button's tally on that poll. Two reasons.

1. He actually is my favourite driver
2. This is something that Vettel doesn't need to win

Well, you can add me to the list of Schumacher fans you know of.

I'll vote for Bianchi. Bianchi seems to be good on track and nearly beat Williams in China. He's only finished a lap down in every race compared to Chilton. Future star? In my dreams, he is.

Me too, I guess! Always got flack for being a Schumacher person, but my family's always supported him for some bizzare reason.

I'd be voting for either Alonso or Button, as both I enjoy a lot, but JB's the one who seems to be the nicer guy... Would massively prefer Alonso to win, though.

Post by **Ataxia** » 06 May 2013, 11:18

I voted for Grosjean. If he keeps building his form in incremental stages like he has been, I think/hope he can grab a win this season.

I know he had a suspect 2012, but I think he's a class act. Naturally quick, and now he's starting to learn from Kimi in how to be quick AND consistent. And for some reason, I always follow French drivers...

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 06 May 2013, 21:44

Rain for spanish gp? This will be good if happen.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 07 May 2013, 02:59

Ataxia wrote:I voted for Grosjean. If he keeps building his form in incremental stages like he has been, I think/hope he can grab a win this season.

I know he had a suspect 2012, but I think he's a class act. Naturally quick, and now he's starting to learn from Kimi in how to be quick AND consistent. And for some reason, I always follow French drivers...

Grosjean will win a race, but will be erratic. The next Jabouille, in my opinion.

Post by **tommykl** » 07 May 2013, 06:11

JeremyMcClean wrote:
Ataxia wrote:I voted for Grosjean. If he keeps building his form in incremental stages like he has been, I think/hope he can grab a win this season.

I know he had a suspect 2012, but I think he's a class act. Naturally quick, and now he's starting to learn from Kimi in how to be quick AND consistent. And for some reason, I always follow French drivers...

Grosjean will win a race, but will be erratic. The next Jabouille, in my opinion.

Nope. RoGro's alerady got four podiums. To be Jabouille, he can't even score points aside from his wins.